This is what left from the WOTC as we knew it. A bunch of short sighted simple minded people who do band-aid "fix" on everything then scramble to do whack-a-mole on problems that come afterwards. American hiring process these days lead to this very outcome we experience. More and more people leave MTG and call it "dead game", even my friend who own a LGS sold his framed black lotus and put MTG events on hiatus at his store due to the decline. The game is on a very concerning situation in my country. I just hope things will get better, I can't afford losing too much value on my card collection yet.
@@cmfrtbly_nmb it seems to rely heavily on drawing appraiser and it succesfully resolving with no interaction....doesnt seem that reliable at all once ppl learn the trick
We've also noticed, WOTC, that you're dumping the animations/sound effects on cards in your precious Arena. Either make the play-in more fun or drop the BS and give us MTGO 2.0!
I usually watch your episodes while doing my daily matches. Went up against this deck and my Ashiok Dream Render hard countered them. They conceded after they unsuccessfully attempted to use the combo on turn 3.
This is killing the format and a ban will be needed since the win rate is over the threshold and other than counter spells there is not a lot to stop it
I was having fun with the Quintorius version, but this is just a full turn faster and requires 1 less colour, making it pretty close to strictly better. Only real advantage for Quintorius is that not all removal hits planeswalkers (Fatal Push, Go for the Throat, Abrade, etc).
yea saw this...its disgusting...you have to hold up removal on opponent turn 3 and if you're on the draw you pretty much are going to lose waiting on opponent because they'll keep waiting on you
This ain’t rocket science you gotta keep balanced hands to answer various treats. In a format that has mono red goblins or Rakdos sheoldred, this ain’t a new thing
I watched this on Magic Aids and thought "I can make this on Historic" and I'm glad to see you playing it here (as a little less R rated dialog no less).
i don’t think this is format ending. prison or tax pieces like drannith magistrate, archon of emeria, and thalia guardian of thraben all work against this deck. roiling vortex also could work
The deck is still extremely consistent, there are counterplays but you either have them by turn 4 or you lose, and that just doesn't seem the type of game wotc wants magic to be. (Also, all of those cards can be dealt with by removal, the most effective way to stop the deck would be discard or killing appreaser with doscover on the stack)
Oh hey, so this is what my opponent was trying to do when I countered their finishing Eldritch Evolution and then I board wiped all their Trumpeting Carnosaurs. I was playing a janky Azorius control pile. Beating the turn 3 combo deck was immensely satisfying.
@@rdm5687 A pile of counterspells and removal that is too high costed to be efficient, with a wincon of milling the opponent out with a one-of Blue Sun's Zenith using mana from a bunch of Smothering Tithes.
love the Explorer content, this deck looks busted. Any idea what would be good against this? I was initially thinking Esper control (so you have access to hand disruption, creature removal, hard counters, and Settle the Wreckage) but that might be too slow
I don't think being slow matters that much, since this deck has no way of winning if you simply stop its key pieces. Notably, Cut Down is a 1-mana spell that kills the Appraiser at instant speed.
What is an explorer and can a new to mtga player have a chance there? In standard I am unfortunately destroyed by the last set(update? addition?) so I had quit for now :(
Thanks for shaking up the format. Any of your creative combo decks are nice even if annoying to face. But you know what's more annoying? The same old meta decks. That's why I don't play explorer much. I'd rather get combod at least for now than face monogreen or wizards for the umpteenth time.
@@militarygradeducttape5072 Just as an update I am 52-1 in Explorer against this deck. I did lose one game because it was the first time I saw this combo (before video), would have won that as well. If there ever was a 100-0 matchup in Magic this is it. 🤣
This deck is cool but can be so obnoxious to play against in bo1 unless your a control deck. Had to give my 5c humans deck instant removal for how much I saw this yesterday
It's a turn 3 kill assuming the opponent has no interaction. It's yet another Greasefang: another "remove me or lose" card. This one dies to more different sources of removal and requires slightly less setup.
Greasefang doesn't actually win the turn you attack with it though. So if you happen to not leave removal up and they do have it, you at least still have a chance to kill it on your turn and race the angels (or remove them). Not saying it's easy, but it is possible. With this, you're just 100% dead if you don't leave up removal, there's no coming back from it. I think the fact that it's a (basically) guaranteed win if the combo happens, and it's literally just a 1-card combo that costs 4 mana, means it's too strong. Yes there's a deckbuilding cost, it makes sideboarding more difficult, but I think clever people can figure that out too.
@@militarygradeducttape5072 Upside - Parhelion is already in the graveyard, _and_ it hits for lethal instead of 13. Downside - Your deck is made of _awful_ magic cards. Time will tell if this is a good trade off, or not.
@@modernminded5466 Exactly. This is the pure definition of a glass cannon. Unless you resolve and stick Appraiser this deck is dead. This video also did not show the games where you mulligan to 4 and still not have Appraiser. My money is on Greasefang being the better deck once meta adjusts.
this is only missing the full playset of Cavern of Souls so the combo becomes even harder to interact with. that being said, I think in the long run this deck is kind of a meme.... kinda like the old neoform deck, and neoform was actually harder to stop.... this is completely stuffed by any instant removal spell or counterspell....
Cavern seems pretty decent here, and might belongs in the 75, but it's also way less impactful than it looks at surface level. If they can't counter the initial link, they'll just counter the discovered card, thus ending the combo, but leaving you with a creature. And you have two different creature types you want to initiate your combo with, so even that is only half covered. It can sometimes cheese Change the Equation, though. As it can't counter Glasspool Mimic.
I feel like this will not hold up in best of 3 tournaments as leyline binding is a thing, it looks fun though.. Until people remember, pioneer has great graveyard hate.
I always appreciate how someone can come up with such a combo, however i don't understand who can play this deck more than 10 times. It's so boring and so little decision-making. Where is the joy in the game? Where are the epic fights full of twists?
This is so far worse than greasefang, it's like they would play greasefang and put 5 parthelion on boards from the library. This is so stupid. Appraiser is getting banned soon.
Also Historic is an online only format yes? So would it be reasonable that they do a pseudo ban where you simply cannot play with geological surveyer and eldritch evolution in the same deck so the abuse stops without losing either cool card?
