This Valorant Agent is Pointless 

Yes, guaranteed Info is not something that is necessary for a sentinel, but I was just making the point that no other sentinel really competes with killjoy/cypher at the moment. Also changes to deadlock should gradual to see what works, anyways thanks for all the comments, good too see all the positive discussions

Yeah but Deadlock kinda hot tho

The thing is, we can't buff a sentinel without having a duelist main crying about how hard it's to entry/lurk against the buffed "broken" sentinel😂

i’ve been playing deadlock a lot recently and I really like most of these suggestions. Personally, my biggest gripe with her is the amount of time it takes her to take out her ult.

She’s a reactionary sentinel which kinda defeats the point imo. Her wall is the strongest part of her kit, but her stuns are only particularly useful in places you can force audio (like drops and such), like on bind she can be really oppressive for a complete hookah lockdown. But that’s it. Her ability to grab info is tied to none of her abilities. It’d be kinda cool if the net nade revealed enemies, hell, allow them to combo with sound sensors, let you place them in the same area to go off of sound sensor. That alone, I feel, would make for some really interesting setups (along with adding another nade)

3:34 "It feels like you have to have a sentinel to make deadlock more viable" Deadlock's worth in a sentence. When I hear it, I instinctively shout "exactly, thankyou!"

So. 1. People have, since the game has come out, misunderstodd sentinels. Sentinels are, like any agent class, split up into seperate groups. For Duelist, these are very obvious, they consist of Flashing and Movement duelists, I like to use these to explain the sentinel class. It is also really important to understand that agents are not fixed to a class, they have primary clases and have crossovers with other classes. For example, cypher is a sentinel that is a crossover with the initiator class. His trips, cages, ult AND cam can all be used to initiate a team onto a site or to retake efficiently if placed beforehand. Killjoy is a crossover with the controller class, making it easy to molly smokes, so the enemy team cant flood out, and a little bit of an initiator crossover, with info from her bots. I like to imagine classes as a vendiagram, where agents can move inside of the vendiagram to spots exclusive to them, making them unique enough so that agents dont get too similar. This is also why Chamber is a sentinel. Chamber is a sentinel that moves far from the center of the vendiagram towards the duelist class, making him completely unique in that regard. He still is a sentinel tho, excelling at soloholding sites and punishing his sightlines with a pick - and getting out afterwards for your team to play 5v4. 2. Where is deadlock in the vendiagram? She is, with sage, the most pure of the sentinels, staying pretty much in the middle, to be a direct competitor to sage. She is designed to specifically hold a site, have the site on lockdown, stalling for as long as possible, buying time for her team. 3. How do we buff her? Well, to give you insight on this, dangerous territory. Your suggestions make valid points, however, as you can see by the current harbour meta, it is ridicolous to think he ever needed a buff. Harbours second cascade is what really put him in this position. The biggest changes you can make to an agent are giving them more utility. Your suggestion with giving her an extra slow might just be too overtuned, her gathering info with her nade would probably be the more reasonable change. However, this is dangerous then, as she then can effectively act as an extra initiator, gathering info for her team to scale onto weaker sites. My personal favourite would be -making her wall deploy like a cypher cage. -making an audio queue whenever the wall is touched. -lowering prices for her utility -making her ultfocused, similar to phoenix, where the ult is 6 points and potentially buffed in terms of Hp it takes for the enemy player to break free. All of these would probably be too much though, so keep in mind: It is better for everyone if agents SLOWLY get buffed and nerfed instead of making them completely overpowered immediately. A great video overall, however, your point regarding initiator sentinels as traditional sentinels is false. Thanks for reading :)

I’m shocked you have under 2k subs, this video is incredible, great job. Looking forward to everything else you make in the future!

The idea of remote (not sonic anymore) sensors is amazing. In addition to the Sage like wall, the remote stuns would be more similar to cypher's cages or KJ's Nanoswarms, giving her more global influence across the map.

I love the idea for the grenade buffs! So far I’m really enjoying playing deadlock, but I would love to see her get buffed in the near future. Great video!

Riot made her the way she is for a reason, they don’t want the sentinels job to be to watch flank with trips/bots. This is the reason for the chamber trip and kj bot ranges. They also don’t want too much agent overlap, think fade and sova, or harbor and viper. They fill the same role (recon initiator, and walk smokes) but with different strengths. Thinking man’s valorant has a great video on agent identity, and the subclasses of each agent in the game. Cypher and kj are true sentinels, and should be played as such. Deadlock is meant to challenge sage, being a wall sentinel, and can be seen in the similarity in the role of the 2 agents. The only change riot should make is the net, the pull out is too fast, and maybe give her another. But they should take it slow, like they did with harbor, so she doesn’t become a must pick on every map.

I really like the ideas you gave & your editing, hope you gain more subs cuz you deserve it

All I want is to see where the wall will land. Some walls you just throw at the chokepoint and they block nothing.

love the editing!

This animation style is the perfect example of how I see things in my head. I love it dude. Keep it up!

this is a very great video that informs us info on certain agents, its very akin to what i do in my spare time which is trying to come up with a way to buff and nerf characters in valorant. if you could make this a series then that would be amazing

yknow, some problems can have a makeshift fix which i will share right now: you can place deadlock’s sonic sensors at the flank, but it has to be at a point where the enemy might shoot at deadlock’s teammates. and if it is placed correctly, it will punish enemies from shooting from the flank you can also place deadlock’s sonic sensor on the retake lanes the defenders might take while in the post-plant situation to either stall or punish the retaking defenders you can solve the barrier problem by just aiming higher gravnet can serve a useful stall tool in fast rushes or fast retakes against attackers or defenders

great video the suggestions for the nades are the best ive heard

I love your vids man! Keep up the great work!

Very good video, I really like your ideas to change the wall and traps. I think that a supress to the nade would fit the theme of deadlock perfectly too

I think what she really needs is that the nades should tell you if someone is netted like fade seize because even if you throw it to slow someone in a corner, you don’t know if someone is actually there

this is so well edited

The visuals and sound effects are so good, nice video felix!

would love to see more videos like this.

My thoughts on your suggestions: Nade: Having 2 nades with suppression(and info gathering) capabilities is overkill, and would single handedly make the agent overpowered. I'd give her 2 nades that play a sound queue if they trap an enemy(like a skye flash) Wall: It's fine as is, but being able to trigger it remotely sounds interesting Sonic sensor: It's too cool of a concept to disregard its sound detecting feature. If it activates based on motion, it would be too similar compered to the other sentinel utility(trip, alarm bot, chamber trip), although on its own, it's not a bad option. Making it *require* activation wouldn't make sense, since the other sentinels(cypher, killjoy) have abilities that tell them when to activate their piece of utility(alarmbot paired with nanoswarms, trip paired with cage). I like the idea of remote activation, but I would pair it with sound sensing, so you could either let it activate based on sound or activate it yourself. Ult: Only thing I'd change is the trajectory of its bounce, it's very janky.

Good video! Its very well edited as well!

I think deadlock is mostly fine, giving her 1-2 nades that supress in order to stall rushes like you suggesed would be all thats needed imo

the editing on this vid is crazy, you are severely underrated

that community ideas segment is like the brown part of a banana. the rest of the video is amazing and well put together

This isn't the main focus of the video, but when the video started and I heard Super Mario Odyssey music it brought back so much memories. Love your choice in bg music and keep up the great content!

This video was amazing to watch, the intro hooked me in, and the explanations were perfectly detailed. Subscribing for sure! Edit: i just realized that i have watched other videos on this channel and was surprised you only have a few thousand subs. keep up the work

Great video, you got my sub

incredible video!

5:47 I think this is a good idea just maybe the sensor can have an activate radius like chamber's rendezvous and can pick up so she looks more like a sentinel

deadlock: kills this dude one time his response:

The changes you suggested are pretty good imo. The nade by itself seems (and looks) like a pretty cool ability but it doesnt have an actual purpose - if you catch someone and peek them, they can duel you just fine. The only time it could be useful is when enemies are pushing on site and as you said - you throw a perfectly timed nade that stops them in their tracks. Giving it a surpress also clears 2 birds with one stone cause that way she also gets info-gathering ( just like KJ and Cypher , even if theirs will still be a little better). I wanna cover a general issue with her that she feels really weird in a sense. On one hand you feel like you can stop 100 people from rushing , while on the other you are literally telling yourself * i could literally defend easier if i were Jett right now*. I feel like thats because every single one of your util has to be confirmed by a player in some way - You dont know if you catch someone with a net , people can sneak past your Sound sensors so you cant cover a flank and even if you have placed a wall you have to be careful cause someone can shoot trough it if you dont expect it. Meaning she is strong only if the stars align in your favour ...which happens in one of 3 ways - someone on your team assists you ( and lets be real - that doesnt happen often in solo queue), your enemies mess up big time, or you just get really lucky. Thanks for reading my post/rant 😊

I have a things I would do to fix her utility. With her slow nade, It should act like a molly, then it gets laid down (Which already happens visually in game) It should be able to trap enemies who go over it. As for the concus trip, It would be hard to tune it without making it identical to 3 of our sentinels so I have a few Ideas on how to do it. These can be implemented separately or can all be used tbh lol, first I think should also work as a sensitivity trip, like if you get close enough (or a line in the middle of where the trip is facing) it should be activated even though you didn't make any noise, this incentivizes better positioning of the trips and rewarding people who hide it well. Second is pretty outlandish but I feel like its a pretty good change on how It works. I think It should work like a Cypher Camera but not literally. The trap would be visible but It wouldnt make any noise, anybody who passes it would give Deadlock a "Hostile Approaching" indicator, and that specific trip would glow in the minimap, like how a Killjoy or Cypher trap gets triggered. Another Idea I have (which where the Cypher camera comparison comes in) is that when a enemy looks at it, the trap lock onto them and alerts Deadlock. It does the usual Deadlock trip but this time the concus field is in the enemies direction, it being in the middle of the enemy, If they dont destroy it in time it'll alert Deadlock of the enemy Agent's name (Calling out enemys name is disposable and doesnt have to work like that) and stuns them. The stun only triggers if they are in range of where the stun would be while looking at it. This being way different than how the traditional trip works it might be weird, but I think this gives a good change on how these kind of util, giving uniqueness and having to change your playstyle alittle bit to counter her and make her actually good at locking down flanks and making her slow less useless than throwing a rock lol.

Here are my ideas on how to fix some of her kit: Gravnet -Increase duration of the net. -Increase pull-up time when removing the net. -Added Effect; Forces the player's crosshair to look down at an angle, when caught. (The netted players need to flick their mouse up, when someone peaks them) Barrier Mesh 1 -Barrier lasts until the end of the round. Or 2 -When the Barrier is destroyed or had expired, the ability will go into cooldown, once. Annihilation -Cocooned players can no longer get stuck, because of its strange path trajectory.

I think supress to her net is a very good idea since many agents with any sort of mobility can just get out of it with no problem and maybe this is just my idea to go of her sound-detecting design her sensors could detect movement but in a much smaller area and it will just stun a small area but the sound detection area is much bigger and when you get caught with sound while being in also the movement detection area you will be given additionally vulnerable

My way of thinking is not to place her stuns based on where enemies would walk into the site but rather where they shootouts will happen. Not only do people strafe when in gunfights but also bullet sounds could trigger the trap. More like a retake tool

Nice vid, I agree with everything you said. I doubt they will buff her besides maybe an extra nade but who knows.

Beautifully made video

Something i thought of before seeing this video which could help fix the gravnet: I think that it could pulse twice, when it lands it has a sort of pulse which is when the net is actually applied, even though it stays on the ground longer without purpose. It could have another pulse as this could increase the overall power of the ability and would increase stalling potential. I do also think 2 nets would be good however I feel like adding an effect would be kinda op.

Your vids are really well put together, im attempting to main deadlock rn and I believe the biggest crutch to her is specifically the sensors as that is the thing that puts her in the Sentinel typing other than her wall. It NEEDS to be reworked imo.

I think the nade imrovements could rlly help her kit, but the other 2 abilities I dont rlly see riot changing since thats what makes her kit “special” or unique, making her different from the other sentinels (it would be kinda boring or upsetting if the stun sensors would be the same as the kj alarm bot). The trigger for the stun sensor could be rlly good if the sound detection stayed with it. Though the wall Is as fine as it is in my opinion.

The video was wonderful!

Deadlock is the Breach (@ launch) of Sentinels, and seems more like a Neon counter-pick

i really like the nade changes, because only force crouching the enemy is extremely weak, and while this can make it harder for the enemy to move it just feels so weak especially when comparing it to every other ability in the game

Riot can add an option to throw the grenade on to doors/entrances/hallways and then it became a sticky net wall that block enemy from passing through (kinda like cypher's), and it can ONLY be remove by cutting it with knife That would probably help her be more useful as an sentinel

nice vid mate

Gravnet should make your shots inaccurate while you're stuck and briefly reveal enemies hit. additionally, i think that walking into the area after the inital burst should still lock you down. Sonic Sensors should be able to be activated remotely, and concuss a larger area. If someone spends too long near it without shooting it or making noise, deadlock tells the team that there's someone there. Wall should have a Left Click that allows it to be activated remotely in exchange for a longer reinforcement period. (Optional) make the top of the wall become a platform that you can stand on for fun off-angles. Ulti should be 8 orbs in exchange for a slightly faster time to kill.

Since the nade is a net you could possibly add a new effect that keeps you from switching weapons or abilities. If they have their knife out they are stuck like that untill it's removed or if they had an ability out. The draw back would be it wouldn't do much on someone with a gun out.

I would not do any of those changes and only change the gravnet so that it can be placed on the ground like a trap and also activate on sound (still having the option to throw it). That way deadlock would be better at locking down a site.

If I’m not wrong the made already tells you if you hit somebody but maybe it’s just the „pull out the dart“ sound

i wish the net had a sound cue for successfully hitting an enemy. or even added a debuff upon successfully removing the net instead of waiting it out, like a stun or something.

w edit, easy to watch

Hey great video! Just a small suggestion: While watching on my phone, I noticed the Agent voicelines and other soundbytes were competing against your voiceover sometimes. I'd suggest bringing them down maybe 2-3 dB but otherwise great editing!

i always put sens into category's, kj and cypher are the best for striaght up lockdown, chamber is a great sentinel/dualist hybrid and sage is a controller hybrid as her wall and slow orbs allow her to have a lot of control. deadlcok is somehow trying to be a sentinel, controller and a initiator all at once. her nade and ult being initiator, wall being a controller and her "trips".

The net could also stay for a little but after landing like a sage slow so it isn’t rendered completely useless after missing like fades seize

Underrated!

the net should be able to disable the enemies guns and ability adding a bit more to the grenades if hit also adding a sound effect of it wrapping around someone would help

You pretty much described my ideal changes for deadlock but i also wanna see something else. Currently when deadlock ults its instant activation. I think it should be similar to sage or kj ult where you can hold it out and chose to put it away if you decide you dont need it

I actually love her sound sens, i throw them onto the site they arent pushing, so if they rotate they give me that Info

Her gravnet should have a throwing mode and a trap mode where it can be activated like a killjoy nade and forces players to make sound to activate the trap along with the usual crouch effect.

From my experience of using her in unrated, I've basically used her as a trap sentinel. placing sound sensors in places where enemies usually stand during engagements, forcing the fight, and getting them stunned while my team and I shoot them. Yes wall is basically the only hard denial utility there is on her kit, and I basically only use the net to clear areas. but I think that is how to best play into her strengths; as a reactive sentinel, who can on the fly setup and counter enemy flanks/rotates. But also think about it, if Deadlock is really scary, and the sound sensors have been in multiple places around the map; imagine an entire team that needs to slow walk all over the map, just to avoid being stunned. easiest time for the opper and other site holders.

I think for her net there's two ideas i have. One could be where it reduces your look speed so it functions like how a real net would work. Slow down your movement and put you in crouch like it does now, and the you can only take it off by shooting or knifing anywhere on your screen so it comes off. Knifing would be the fastest way out, but shooting lets you deal damage to the net and also shoot someone if you have the skill to do so. The second idea is that you leave it the same, have 2 instead of 1, and marks you like cypher trip but not as long. For her wall there's 2 options as well. Leave it as it is and give it a little less health and a remote. Leave it the same now with an alt mode where again remote gives it less health with more freedom, or putting yourself in danger and activating it yourself gives it more health (which is what it is now). For like a bonus idea why not make it like motion activated. It you can place it down, it goes invisible and pops open on contact. I feel like this would give her more combo potential with her other abilities. As for her ult i think it should have an alt mode where it functions like normally or you can place it like a trap except its slighty invisible so you can shoot it before it grabs you and if it grabs you, you can break free. This alt mode reduces its health by half or slightly if needing to be re adjusted.

This agent it good for force to attacking to a side that ur team pretty good on but some how its like rock,scissor, paper that u have to know and doubt wheres your enemys are, if your sentinel in your team know the opponent team playstyle it will be eazy to play for deadlock team which that mean if u want to use deadlock with full potential pls stack 4 or 5 ppl, plus u have to know many plans and how enemy plans work

i think for the stun it should be like a skye flash, its a weaker version with thats much more consistent, when remotely activated, the stun is only 1.75 seconds, and has a 1.25 second delay to stun, with a sound queue for the start

That's why I tell my teammates to use their brain and think where they will shoot you when they're flanking

I don't have a single issue with playing deadlock in comp so far. She's the only sentinel so far I feel like I get. Her grav net on attack is such a useful tool you Chuck it hear a beep and swing off to get a free kill. Her sonic sensor should be held not left alone if you engage the flanker they might shoot while near the trip. Her wall is pretty strong just keep in a chokepoint and focus on something else. Her ult is simply strong but not always a hit but I'd agrue is the best thing to have on an eco round since you can pull a gun for 1 ult. She can lock down a site fine just play around her sensor more.

deadlock on ascent is pretty good we use it in 5 stack with deadlock chamber astra/omen sova raze forcing them to drop on lane and walling stairs is pretty good and we switch jett to raze because of the nade, stun potential and we already have a op which is chamber and we use chamber because you need only one trip which is the market area

the net grenade just feels so sad i'd like to see it leave some sort of lingering effect for a few seconds, like a sage slow applying vulnerable or suppressed would also be cool another option would be to make it removing the 'dart' takes longer. rn it's faster than removing cypher cam dart which is weird for an ability that's only usable once per round instead of many like cypher

I mean deadlocks sound traps are busted on certain places on certain map. Theyre just straight up broken on places where the enemy has to jump down, and they cant shoot the traps consistently, atleast not without risking getting themselves shot while trying to destroy the traps. For example, defending b site on ascent, you can place sound traps below the walkway so when they jump down they are guaranteed to get stunned, and then you can have a wall to the left, so that the only way to get onto site is to jump down from the walkway. Or you can place a soundtrap on the jump down from window on bind b site. Just examples. Its not amazing and is kinda situational, but the traps can either be garbage or rly good based on how you place them. The wall is good cause its a wall, and the nade is just bad, plain and simple bad, literally only useful for info (if theyre dumb enough to give the info, since you dont NEED to pull the dart out), or for combining with mollies.

I want to wait to see some proper professional and high-level play with this agent which will probably happen at champions and the off-season. I remember many thought Harbor was weak until teams like Loud and DRX introduced Harbor-Viper comps at Lock//In

I would just say that, the nade should have 2 charges, and a short cooldownbefore throwing a second one (similar to breach aftershock if infinite abilities is on). also, I would like the nade to give deadlock information about if and how many enemies are caught in the area. For the sonic sensor; I still think it’s unique and fine, but I find it unreasonable for it not to be activated by some abilities, like yoru’s tp or flashes. I think it should react to any sound caught within the radius, except for mollies or projectile-like abilities that land in the area, so that it can’t just be cancelled out. when a molly or flash or smoke or etc is equipped by an enemy within the area of the trap, it should activate. This way it actually creates pressure and actually has an impact.

what is the song that plays from 0:35 onwards?? its so familiar to me but i cant remember

very fire ideas, these would make deadlock one of the best sentinels in the game

Yeah but the voiceline “PULL THEM TO THEIR GRRRAVE.” is sooo good thooooo

Can we talk about the fire music at 1:26

One time i got hit by a net on a 1v2 by deadlock. With that i managed to have full control of my movement and aim as i didnt need to hold crouch for full accracy, and hit the two heads.

Simply give wallhacks when the nade hits like cypher cam and just give the sonic sensor a guaranteed range where it’s off LOS or movement not just sound

Can we have some way to know where her wall is going to be placed? Sage has it. I'm constantly placing shit walls that have an edge which can sneaked around

I know I'm late but I feel like these changes would make deadlock more of a hybrid kj/viper which could be rly op but I think ur on to something

The remote idea on the sound traps is creative but it wouldnt really be strong bc u still couldn’t watch flank and u would still rely on info

My fav is the gravnet suppression is the beat

I like the idea of deadlock being able to combine her util via her wires that we see on her util Like you can wire up her wall and her sound sensors So when a sound sensor is either broken or tripped a pre placed not activated wall goes off Or her granade could be combined with her wall so the moment apart of her wall gets broken The wall drops a nade I think it would be cool but the balancing idk Maybe her wall has less health when connected with wires sort of like a generator mechanic on her utility so when one piece of util gets broken its less effective?

making the wall activate like a cypher cage would be insane. You could trap an enemy on the wrong side of a choke

I think a cool change would be to change her nades to a remote activate like KJ nades, so you can set them up as traps instead

My biggest arugment is attacking when its a 1v2, wall is so crazy with locking downn an entry popint for defuse annd also if its blocking the spot where spike is planted

Deadlock has actually completely changed the double sentinel meta. Instead of sage walling in front of cypher's trips, deadlock can do that too now.

Me personally, with my gameplay on deadlock, would like the tube on the ult to be a little bigger, in case someone gets in close yk? possibly come out a tiny bit faster as well, not by a lot but by some at least

As somebody who has gone on a 10 match win streak with deadlock solo queue, the made need an effect,range buff or make it take longer to remove the net, and they should remove the half second until the stun activates, the wall and ult are very good

rather than adding an effect to the gravnet, I'd suggest just make it not removable at all so you just HAVE to sit there if you get stuck

The gravnet suppress is good change but no info who is suppress lime kayo knife .the audio when removing it is enough if someone is caught

Sound Sensors are not too bad today unless you know how to utilize them in different ways. Many people use them as anti-rats, which is also a good thing, but i use them like breach stun POST-PLANT and holding site for areas where i know we will be both exchanging our shots. 1 bait shot or a footstep from the enemies is enough stun to disturb their recoil reset/accuracy thus enough to kill them before stun time is finished. Thats only if they prioritized shooting you than the sensors first. BUT the sensors are too loud so it gets easier to detect. It will be fun if sensors a can be placed on the ceilings 🤣

the stun could make a sound if the enemies are on shift and not actived, like when you triger the kj turret before it starts to shoot

Yeah she needs a hefty rework since the sound based thing isn’t going to work in a game like valorant since i’ve died countless times because the lurker just shift walks past my Deadlocks traps

i think her ult need more hp but slower time to kill, because her ult can be use to delay the enemy push since the enemy will shoot the cocoon the nade. if the enemy release the nade, they will get stun. it gives them 2 option: stay till the duration over or get stun. it will gives the nade a benefit as sentinel her wall has a lot of hp because you can shoot tru the wall, so it reasonable. but i think it need more time to get to full hp bcs it broken in pistol round i think her trap need to activate based on sight like killjoy alarmbot, but we can smoke the trap (srry for my broken grammar)

I think they should rework her wall to be like a rolling disc that spools the wall in a pattern similar to the path of boombot. Like sens from rainbow six

i really like your net and trap changes but i think her wall and ult are fine as is, maybe 6 ult points but that might be to short