People tend to forget that abuse in the church is so normalized bc people care more about their friends than the victims they hurt and abuse. Why are victims silenced or looked at as crazy but more grace is given to the abuser? Too many times Apologists and Christian pastors who get away with this stuff.
We can sum it up by saying ALL OF US are guilty from the bathroom to the pulpit! 😂😂 We see ourselves as righteous, but don't give the grace God has extended to us. But that's why we PRESS towards the mark for a higher calling in Christ Jesus!
Bro Corey this video does bother me, because you broke down the arrogance of my sinfulness and nature that I excuse for myself in to believing I am. Thank for always bringing the word of God to the forefront that we may hear, learn, and understand what God plans for His kingdom return. I appreciate you and your passion to become my Phillip, Acts 8:30-31. Praise God and the LORD Jesus Christ for your ministry.
The mirror spoke and my reflection was humbled. My righteousness is no better than a soiled tampon...LORD forgive my haughtiness, fear and looking to man for answers. Thank you brother.
Great Analogy! At 75 I can tell you I have never heard this comparison of our righteousness with the soiled discarded blood that was to be used to bring forth new life. DEEP...
I wonder if that was your relatives would anyone out there will be quick to say lock him up and throw away the keys ? God forgives us so we should also forgive each other. I pray for everyone involve and their families especially the young lady. I can’t even imagine the pain she had to endure all those years.
I'm not as bothered by Pastor Robert's actions as I am about the actions the church took in protecting him while neglecting to come to the aid of the child who was hurt. People are going to do bad things (even pastors) but the church should at least reach out to help the victim rather than rushing to support the perpetrator because he is "important."
Though I only agree with 98% of your breakdown of scriptures most of the time, I got to give you and the other gentleman with the all things theology channel a shout-out because y'all keep it scriptural and not personal.....much respect my brother in Christ.......
Good presentation on God's grace and mercy, that none of us deserve but we received because of Jesus's death and resurrection. Thank you for helping to edify the body of Christ.
Thank you Corey for this teaching. Yes it is hard to hear but we are all sinners who DON'T get the punishment we do deserve and DO get the mercy we DON't deserve. Since all this has come out I have repented again of my past sins that I committed and yes, they are bad. I also understand that "there but for the GRACE of God go I"
Thank you Cory for your presentation. I was waiting for someone to express this as you did. It bothers me that there is so much unforgiveness in the visible church.
And I believe it's because that the person/individual never or refuses to look at themselves in the mirror (their reflection staring right back at them) to see their OWN "SINFUL NATURE" hopefully, if they're NOT DENYING THEIR WITHOUT SIN! 😭
Corey, didn’t you say you’d return pain on someone who hurts your daughters? Isn’t that revenge if you punish the offender after the fact and not during an abuse? As a dad myself, I understand that sentiment, but I’m just curious how you reconcile that stance with what you’re saying here?
I took it as in the act when someone barges in the house to take your kids of course you’ll fight back. But after someone has done the act to forgive them.
Saved people still sin. However, God's Word, makes people aware of attitudes and behaviors that are Christ Like. When you purposefully sin less and less, you will draw closer and closer to God. And, God will draw closer and closer to you.🙏❤️
Agree with you brother. I do wish he could be in prison for a time. Crimes to children and elderly and disabled and mentally challenged are to me the worst. We all will answer to God one day. We are all sinners. Praise Jesus for shedding his blood so I can be justified before God.
What you make happen for others God will make happen for you, not made to be an insult. Jesus prayed that God would forgive those that beat and killed him, we are to be like him, when we don't see ourselves as bad as the person committing the sin we want punishment for them, the error is not seeing our sin as being just as bad as being a pedophile.
Corey condemned Christians using swear words with conviction, but offered "understanding" and grace to an identified child molester. This is why people are leaving the church and as you heard a pastor mention, which you mocked, the church is oftentimes, unfortunately NOT a safe space. To not view what this pastor did to this child as a crime, no matter how the statute of limitations has expired, does not take away the fact that this so-called pastor is a true wolf in sheep's clothing. His behavior has absolutely nothing to do with the sins of others. You yourself know how the penile system works, it punishes according to each individual's crime. Saying "all have sinned" is skirting the issue in an attempt to remove the eyes off of the criminal that is Robert Morris. An absolutely disgusting stance to take on this subject matter as you consider yourself to be a family man and to be honest, it is eye opening and highly concerning. May God protect his flock from deviants.
Nobody leaves God's Church because Jesus said his sheep follow him and don't follows strangers, Jesus said he will lose none that the father gave him, God does lose any sheep. More importantly, you blamed it on Corey as though he is the Judge, God and the inspired word said the measure of mercy you give others is the mercy he will give you, notice who is talking, God. I don't care if it is Hitler, if you want him to be killed for his crime, that is what you will get because it is the same thing, murdering babies or a proud look is sin and separates you from God. Not having mercy shows pride, you think you are not as bad as the child molester, you think you sins are not as bad, that is mistake, they are and that is what is confession of your sins means, "Lord, I am just like the worst sinner".
@BriJenell nobody said to turn a blind eye. You guys need to finish watching the video. Focusing on condemning the man is wrong. Ok, so he did something illegal and now what?
He is someone some WOULD BELIEVE don’t even have the right to tell them anything just because he been to prison. That’s the disgusting delusion we gotta DEAL WIT when they out here loving AND SLEEPING with folks who don’t even know God and in many cases don’t wanna know him beyond pretending but got ppl convinced of what it is. It’s one’s perspective that will move the needle-perSay and how much pain we can stand is looking like the point. A real shame for real.
We are human, and it’s difficult not to separate sin into different levels of horribleness for lack of a better word… But all sin is the same at the foot of the cross… Because sin separates us from God, no matter how big, how horrible, or how little we think it might be…
Although that is true; sin is sin, the “degree” of sin does carry different earthly ( and maybe even heavenly, we really don’t know that part) consequences. None of us is able to escape consequences of bad choices or sin and the “let god judge” is a gaslighting tactic being used all over the place regarding these men. One of the consequences of their sin is public rage, condemnation, questioning, desire for accountability etc.
Sin on earth is different because of the consequences such as prison for crime, babies for sex, etc.. but all sin separates you from God which includes a proud look which the scripture says is an abomination.
So my nephew at 16 years old was killed in a driveby by 3 young men . I pray that God deals with them how God plans for them. I pray they get saved as well. I was wanting justice at the same time for their salvation but im not qualified to say what justice is.
After watching the first video on this subject I wondered if there would be a follow up video. And here it is. You are correct that the problem with the church is LOVE. Also, scripture says they will know us by our love (John 13:35 KJV). It is clear from his actions that Morris understands Gods love bc God allowed him the opportunity to make things right by telling the full truth and confess his sins. However, Morris’ lies continue to unfold and from all accounts it makes him appear unrepentant. Bottom line is God can’t be glorified when Morris acts justified in his actions of abuse, lying, and covering up. The woman victim deserves Gods love and protection and His justice. Morris has abused the grace of God and broken the law, and your analysis seems to gloss over that. You don’t spend enough time focusing on the love and restoration the victim needs. This sir is no trivial matter. All sin is sin and all law breaking is law breaking INDEED, but not all sins/law breaking is punished at the same rate. If you don’t make your bed when your parents tell you, that is the sin of disobedience. That sin is not the same as an adult violating a child. This is why your perspective on this issue is dangerous. You are grouping the disobedient child, a petty criminal, a murderer, a sodomite, and a child molester as all being the same (sinners)-which is CORRECT, BUT they are NOT punished the SAME. Even the justice system understands that. That’s why the kid who didn’t make his bed isn’t in jail, but on punishment 😂. The petty criminal gets a suspended sentence. The murder gets 25 to life. The sodomite gets the entire month of June to be celebrated (of course I’m being facetious 😊). But you get my point that each are punished at different rates. Biblically Morris is unqualified to pastor and promoted a false prosperity gospel. Legally, he broken the law and should have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law… But the “loving church” elders covered up his sin….This is an example of loving man more than loving God. Grace & peace ✌️.
I agree with you! It baffles me that Christians think we live in some La-La land of God's grace where we can sin, ask for forgiveness, be forgiven by God and not face the repercussions of our sin in the NATURAL/PHYSICAL realm. God can very well use physical/earthly consequences for His means of Justice for our wrongs. Sin is sin and egregious in the sight of our Holy God, so lusting in your heart and sex out of wedlock are all the same (sinful) to God. But one sin has a greater _physical_ consequence than the other sin! Lusting in your heart can't get you pregnant or an STD! Since these church scandals have unfolded the past week or so, I see that most of these Christian RU-vidrs (and their viewers) are foolishly leaning toward hyper-grace (which is also warned against in the scriptures, Romans 6:1-2). And they refuse to RIGHTLY HANDLE and INTERPRET the Word of God as it applies to these scandals. It's getting to the point where I really question the discernment of the "Church."
You are stepping on the toes! Lord have mercy on ratchet sinners we are. That won’t forgive or cover the sins of a brother. I struggle so much with forgiveness please pray for me.
God Jesus Christ is the only Spirit (fully God, and who was fully man , when Jesus Christ came to the earth ) that can rid the world of sin. Grace is God's Forgiveness of sin. People don't deserve God's Grace. God's Love for mankind nailed Jesus Christ to The Cross. God Jesus Christ wants His Children to be holy, as He is Holy. Forgiveness is a remedy prescribed, by Jesus Christ to heal people, from hurt and pain that is experienced in this world.
Amen Bro. Corey! I really admire your understanding, and poise on issues like this. It would have been so easy to give in to the flesh and pass condemnation. Keep going, brother. I have learned so much from watching you, not only Biblical knowledge, but also in your demeanor. Lots of love!
What do Islam, Sunni, Shiite, Mormon, Latter Day Saints, Jehovah's Witnesses, Hebrew Israelite, Nation of Islam, Rabbinic Judaism, Prosperity Gospel, and New Progressive Christianity all have in common? LUST! Exemptions for lust, rules accepting lust, even divinity in lust. If you are worried about the deception of Satan one thing that's always present, lust.
@hayeschrist1 It was not directed at you but to this point, most people recongnize sexual sins as sins but do not consider pride, there isn't a person that doesn't struggle with pride, you don't even recognize it as pride. When you get mad when someone insults you that is pride, when you say I was the first one two xyz that is pride, when very excited when your family is successful, that is pride, when you strive for excellence that is pride, when you feel disrespected that is pride, when you get mad at this comment that is pride, when you think someone deserves punishment that is pride, when you have a good Idea who you are you tend to leave other people alone. God said a proud look is an abomination.
I have done things in my life and had it not for mercy and grace i would be lost . Sometimes my mind think evil and i know if i had the opportunity to do it i would it sin is first conceive in the heart thank GOD only he is still working on me.
I get what you mean Corey. People don’t realize if we ALL truly got what we deserved, we would be dead in our sins in the lack of fire. Thank God for Jesus!
Sin ultimately is sin regardless of the "degree" as far as God's Holiness is concerned. Liars will have their place in the lake of fire as well as the adulterer and every other sin that's not repented of. We need to make sure we ourselves are living a life that's pleasing to The Lord and pray for those who find themselves in these circumstances.
The idea of bringing any sin to light in the church is for restoration thru love- NOT CONDEMNATION, regardless of the sin. The church is to restore and bring back to the assembly. The world is the one that condemns and persecute. This can not be the same attitude of the church, regardless of the sin.
Corey! My my my. I agree you on many levels! People want to sometimes say that they can't hate the sin and love the sinner, but we are called to! We're called to exemplify the fruit of the spirit with everyone, beyond even our own understanding. Sin is sin and we all fall short. None of us should be condemning anyone else or seeking judgment or vengeance on anyone else. God is so good. Corey, I consider you like an uncle I can always go to for spiritual/biblical guidance and some good clean laughs. I've been watching your videos for at least 1-2 months now and am always grateful for your content. Today, I'm very thankful to listen to another Christian who gets it. God bless you and your family. Thank ya Lord! 🙏🏾🙂
I agree with you that grace and mercy should be exercised among us all because we are all susceptible to sin. However those that fall should not look to be reinstate as a church pastor or leader but not reinstating them does not mean mercy and grace has not be extended and given. I wish the restoration of all but for church leaders there are biblical standards and requirements to be held, in order to continue in such position. These are two different things that can not be placed in the same level of a layperson and Not sure if you are making that distinction or not. All must be given mercy, grace and restoration thru love but not all are required to meet eldership requirements. The layperson and the church leaders are held at different levels. -As to Robert Morris, that was 35 years ago.....I hope that is enough to say what I think. -As to Toney Evan, restoration is required but not restoration to his pastoral-ship. -As to Matt Chandler and TD Jakes, same as Tony Evans They all are to receive love, mercy and grace but to wish that more be done is beyond my comprehension. Removal of leadership is enough but restoration to the assembly is required.
We are so quick to judge but not quick to judge our selves. Because believe me God is going to judge the pastors and deacons much harder than you and I. So be careful who you judge
One thing for sure, Corey will DEFINITELY say "matter of fact" alot in his presentation. I attempted to count how many times the phrase punctuated his teaching, but got distracted after 5 or 6 times.😂
The biggest problem we have is we have a multitude of zmen in the Pulpit that are not truly sent by God . Paul said how can they believe if they don't hear a preacher and how can one preach unless they are Sent. A true sent Man of GOD will bring the whole counsel of God . Most of these men preach what sells tickets.
I'm an athiest and I have asked christians on numerous occassins, itsn't your belief in god supposed to change you? Why doesn't your belief prevent these immoral behaviors and from pastors no less?
Yes they should change, but it's the work of the Holy Spirit within our heart to bring changes, through opening our eyes to make us aware of the wrongs and we our convicted of our sin by God's Word and His Spirit. You don't change if you're not willing to see or think you're better than someone else when no one is. I don't like seeing anyone hurt, it especially angers me when the person don't seem to have any care of what they do. When first coming online I learned so much from others. I would speak with atheist and some made me feel sad because I can understand so much what they've been through. I've been angry with God, like King David was, but never deny that He is. There are many things I don't like, but it's not for me to say what is wrong because God is the one who said the way things are to be. Just don't always like things the way they are! Pray for God's goodness, but know in this fallen world we are to expect trouble, because man's hearts are wicked and seek to get gain for themselves. The opposite of who we're made to be. Micah 6:8 8 He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly[a] with your God One of my favorite verses!
And also you need to know not all who name the name of Christ are His. Many on that day will say Lord, Lord have we not prophesied in your name, and in your name cast out demons, but Jesus will say, I never knew you depart from me you who work lawlessness. Not that He doesn't know of them, but they weren't truthfully converted by repentance of the conviction of sin. I hope it helps you! May He bless you!!!
"The Spirit is willing but the flesh is weak." "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked; who can know it? I the LORD search the heart, I test the mind. To give every man according to his ways. Even according to the fruit of his doings."
Everyone who claims the name of Jesus are not Christians, If I was Satan I would have as many agents as possible claiming to be Christians to sully the name of Jesus.
We are witnessing the fall of Hierarchy within the church. Its about time, looking forward to hearing equality preached from the foor tops as it should be.
It is because of Lord’s MERCIES, that we are not CONSUMED, because His COMPASSIONS FAIL NOT. They are NEW EVERY MORNING: GREAT IS THY FAITHFULNESS. Lamentations 3:22,23
Amen brother, you are gifted by God as a teacher. Keep on teaching please. I have a pastor you can go to with any sin. And I have a Lord that I have and can got to with my sins, thank God for you.
Man you made a good point on the guys in prison that hurt others because they committed a sex crime because like you said they have hurt their own children
All sin is sin! The major difference is that some call sin good and they believe what they are doing is good. No one ever said that stealing is good, murder is good, that's the major difference. A reprobate mind!!! Many blessings to all!
I totally believe God can heal,restore and redeemed 'anyone' who comes to Him on 'bended knee in ttrue repentance,sorrow and humility.I believe this wholeheaartly,but their resignation disqualifies them from preaching and due their age at this time,probably for good! Blessings
We are all flawed but being woke and a proponent of the prosperity gospel is intentional. If you are a fan of Chandler tell me what he did that required him to step down. The members don’t even know
Cory, this was my first time watching you and I must say I killed my babies, I committed so many sexual sins, I was and still is struggling with a drug addiction, I left my husband and children for a man in his 20, and so much more I could share but you get picture. One day I came face face with the same savior who saved a women at the well. But God!!!!!!!!!!!
Repentance and remorse are different.A repentant heart will sorrowful,broken and humbled. A person who has remorse is usually based on the fact of 'getting caught'! Blessings
I’d think we should know what Tonys sin is so that we can make the decision to listen to him or not if he plans to return if he doesn’t plan to come back he can keep his secret
Man will FAIL time and time again.. Our CREATOR NEVER FAILS. Unfortunately, this causes far too many to flee the Church. I will be a sinner till my last breath. I got a feeling this guy will try and get back into Ministry. I could be wrong🤔 Peace to All
This is my first time watching you and wow! You are absolutely right! We should forgive like how the bible teaches us to and forgive how Jesus did. Lol you are right we are all trash cans only Jesus can clean us.
Corey… listen… you said in the beginning that this was going to offend. Not for one second was I offended by anything you said. I’m glad you think biblical and you taught me a few things. It’s why I support your channel.
We as Christian's are called to be patient with men just as God is. We are called to give mercy and grace just as God does. But a true leader of the gospel once said this, "every once in a while, and may I add, even more often today "people need to hear this", And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him, but if Baal, then follow him" I believe we should be declaring how we aught to serve God wholeheartedly with UPMOST respect and REVERENCE! As we are witnessing in this day and time, respect, reverence AND the FEAR of GOD is long gone! 😢 The real understanding of biblical love and HOW we as Christian should love has been perverted and water down. I believe it's a trick of the devil to make Christian feel guilty and succumb to or even compromise what the Bible says about it all, in it's WHOLE contexts... What I see, even just reading a few comments, nothing but confusion. The devil wants CONFUSION, rather you're a Christian or not! For the devil, it's ALL about making GOD, who he hates look less than The GOD HE is ... I don't believe extending grace and mercy is the REAL issue here, nor do I believe people, true Christian's are thinking they can do no wrong. Now if we really really look at it, for decadesssss grace and mercy HAS been extended down through the yearsssss, sin in the church has been overlooked, innocent children has been molested in the church down through the years, immoral behavior has been overlooked in the church, sexual sin has been overlooked in the church, wives have been abused by their husbands in the church, adultery has been overlooked in the church for decades, with NO real biblical consequence all the while serving God's people. Elder gets someone pregnant, he sits down for a moment then he's right back up leading God's flock. Or for the most part they never set down the sin was just HIDDEN Or covered up, the Bible talks about hidden sins and its consequences... Therefore, because of this serious matters within the churches for decades that has not been properly dealt with, God has withdrawn Himself from MANY churches...God said enough is enough! HE said I have seen a horrible thing in My house there's whoredome and wickedness amongst my people. Hosea 5&6 Even so today! And because of this The Lord has withdrawn Himself from many churches. And not only that but God is definitely bringing things that were done in the dark to light, especially amongst the leaders... For God, This is NOT a grace and mercy issue or matter, the Bottom line is REPENT and turn your heart to God... Joel 2, "Therefore also now, saith the Lord, turn ye even to ME with all your heart, and with fasting, and with weeping, and with mourning, and rend your heart wholeheartedly and not your garments, and turn unto the Lord your God, for HE is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness"...So what really matters is only God knows who deserves His grace and mercy because HE knows the heart of every man! I can extend mercy and grace all day long but the most important PERSON we need to be concerned with receiving grace and mercy is from GOD! Because after all it is HE Who has the last say concerning where YOU and I will spend ETERNITY!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Bless you man of God for this. This is such an eye opener for everything you’re talking about according to the word of God. God is the judge of all things. Great points.
I agree with you, not all Christians are Christians, they have a form of godliness but they deny the power thereof. We are either conforming to Christ like character or we are still in our sins with a Christian mask on.
That’s because the Bible doesn’t list all the sins the people the Lord was with had committed. The point is that none of us is guiltless. Therefore, we should pray for each other to seek God for forgiveness.
@@KABITH0888so since the Bible doesn’t list all, why should we imply/assume that he hung with pedophiles when that scripture tells us his thought on those who would harm a child? At least that scripture is clear as day instead of assumptions.
@@prock3147 I’m not trying to get into a back and forth argument. You have a right to express yourself like we all do. I’m just saying let’s prove that the mind of Christ is in us who accept God’s love and show it to all around us every chance we get.
Not far fetched at all, what is far fetched is that you don't believe your sin is just as bad as a pedophile, all sin separates you from God which includes a proud look, it will take you to the same place, imagine standing beside Hitler in Hell because you thought your proud look was not as bad as killing 6 million Jews, what pride.
We need to know what happen. Why? Because he is a leader. The public needs to know how to respond. Respond? Yes, we cannot just follow someone blindly. Look at RM. How many child advicates went to church? Police officers? Victims? Parents? Teachers? Now they have to deal with his secrets and struggle with being a "hypocrite" for following him. We are only responsiable for what we know. If we don't know, that is one thing. That still causes a lot of hurt and pain. We are not just going to pray and follow someone blindly anymore. What if there were victims? Why say what he did was not a crime? A crime in what since of the word. We can, and should pray. Pray that God would open the eyes of our understanding of his word. Pray that we do not continue to follow blindly anymore. Pray that we are not caught up in spiritual manipulation and scripture twisting anymore. Pray that the standards in the church is what scripture says. A leader is to be blameless. A good name is better than riches.
No. We do not. Let it be said clearly: You and many others do not want to know in order respond as Christians have already know how, you want and many more want to know in order to know how to respond as to the intensity of your firm, angry disapproval and whatever hatred and negative attitude against Tony that you already have. Stop lying and trying to make it seem like the public of the church needs to know - it is all about your bloodlust for gossip and more! You need to stop lying! You want to scrutinize him, but what about YOU!!!? Sir, how do we if you're an actual Christian saved and being sanctified? How do we know whether or not you are a youtuber who has a channel on gossip? For everyone burning to know what Pastor Evans is talking about, you need to step back from your earhustling desire for gospel! You and the many others who keep saying they have a problem with him because he's just confessing his sin that happened years ago. Please!.. That isn't your issue. You don't like TE. Or you heard a person of the world point it out failing to remember who they are and who you and Tony are.
Exactly. If you want everyone else to receive Gods justice, ya better stop to think about where you’d be right now had God given you what you deserved instead of grace.
This is EXACTLY WHY ONLY GOD --THE TRUE GOD READS “THE HEART” A clear understanding that he shared WITH US on how we will never be able to reason in a manner that defines the heart. Big difference in someone apologizing with their mouth and or from the heart. We can’t even decipher how that works on one end and exactly why again…our mouth/ tongue is what most are paying attention too. Right BUT Wrong to A POINT ☝🏽
I get exactly what you are saying Corey and couldn't have spoken or said better myself! And having been in a situation where....revenge is mine says the Lord and you must forgive, I'm not coming from a place of not knowing the point u are trying to get across! You hit the nail on the head!
