"This war broke him." | Nothing is over! | Stallone's best 5 minutes on film | First Blood (1982) 

there was actually a soldier like rambo too who apparently took the cops on. obviously not to the scale of rambo but in his own way. cops treated soldiers and in some cases still do like dirt. it wasnt put on ive heard many stories from soldiers about cops trying to assert dominance over them and treat them poorly. not all cops obviously hell i wouldnt even say a majority but its sad to think it happens at all

This is an absolute myth. Not born out by any Veteran's organizations, historical record, or verifiable evidence. In fact Veterans and Anti-war protestors were in solidarity with each other and the image of spitting protests was basically fabricated whole-cloth by the government and movies like Rambo.

I must have seen this movie some 50 times at least. Saw it's true meaning from the first time. Critics buried it then, cause anything coming from Stallone was automatically called bad. Some 20 years later the first critics started to see the light and suddenly it was called a cult movie. Took them another 5 years to see it for what it has always been: a 'don't neglect your soldiers' movie. I've talked with US soldiers from when I served with the Dutch Airforce. I talked a lot then with two in particular: a pvt1 and an LT1. The Lt spoke (mandatory) Dutch and German, so we spoke in 3 languages, as he wanted to practice his Dutch and German. The young pvt's eldest brother had served in Vietnam and though he returned to the US many years before, he still hadn't been home by then (early 80's). He regularly sent postcards to his parents to let them know he was alright (which obviously he wasn't), but never surfaced. I hope he did eventually find the peace of mind to go home. It's the same here in The Netherlands with the East-India war veterans. Men in their 80's/90's now. Boys of 17 years old then. Protesters with the diaper stripes still on their bums. Having no knowledge (or sense) at all. These youngsters compare everything to their own protected, priviledged little lives and have the gall to criticize the (boy) soldiers from another time. A time you, as a young guy, just listened and did what you were told to do. In society, but certainly as a soldier. I talked with such a veteran pretty often a few years back. He was holding back at first, but as he understood I understood, I got more details. He suffered from guilt over some nasty things he did back then. I hope I've been able to easy that guilt a little bit. Stallone made some pretty horrible movies, but a few very good ones too and this one might just be the best.

Its not an anti war statement... It's a statement against the people who treated our veterans like absolute garbage.

@@poiny91 Both can be true...

It's like how society expects people who suffer depression to "just get better". That's like telling someone who has cancer to "just stop having cancer" There are just some things we are not in control of.

You are taught and trained to be this magnificent fighting machine. What happens when there is no longer anyone to fight? What happens then? They release you into society, BUT what do you do there when your training and skills no longer match? That is an interesting question that many veterans have.

Amen the best you can do is cope an constantly try an stay ahead of the demons

You actually. Ever turn it off but you do learn to live with out and use it to your benefit how ever it is sadly and painfully not taught when you leave the military gov contractors and VA must get a good kick back to not hoping cops kill you or you take your own life

It’s like you’re months away taking bodies then you come back and expect to be normal

a few moments before, most of the reactors were cheering Rambo for shooting up the town and giving the sheriff his comeupens. "Nothing is over! NOTHING!" stopped all that. I loved the look Daniel and Sam (TBR Schmitt) give each other at that moment. the expressions on the faces of all the reactors are very different at the beginning and end of those 5 minutes.

@@YoureMrLebowski of all the people* To react is normal for all animals, everyone does it subconsciously, it's not something you can "do", like breathing it's an automatic function.

@@YoureMrLebowskiAlso, most people don’t realize this isn’t the original ending- they filmed a much darker ending first, but ended up going with this one to set up a sequel.

to me it was mostly hysterical, because of Sly's acting

​@@m1lst3r89What else do you find hysterical how people unable to hear speak? I would say be better but I'm sure that's a conversation we both would consider a waste of time.

Thank you for your service brother

I'm a disabled Viet. vet. We were instructed to change from our uniforms into civilian clothing upon landing in the U.S.A. We were warned that we might be spit upon and/or confronted as we attempted to board civilian airliners for our flights home. I remember sitting next to a couple on the plane. They figured out that I was just returning from 'Nam & instructed the flight attendant to bring me a drink ASAP! I'll never forget their kindness. It's true that many T.V. shows & movies at the time portrayed Viet. vets as psychos & baby killers.

I went to Iraq and Afghanistan- 4 tours each. There is NO HELP. None. You have guys walking to the VA getting 100% disability payment’s because they have hair loss from stress. All while I was homeless, riddled with ptsd and hadn’t eaten in a week, and was told they couldn’t even give me food because I didn’t have an address. If it wasn’t for the local priest at a mosque that brought me in, fed me and helped me get a job, I wouldn’t be alive. The irony of it all.

@@blahblah2779 umm. There aren't priests at mosques. I got help. You went to a bad VA. They aren't all like that my friend. Also your story makes no sense. Why would you go four times apiece unless you were SF? If you were that makes sense. Otherwise this story is..odd.

@@Fatherofheroesandheroines and of course, it’s the other veterans who are the first to mock, ridicule and minimize my story and the facts. Because it’s much easier for your kind of people to just toss the blame on me instead of opening your eyes. 4 times each. 3-5 months each. 75th ranger regiment, as well as other units we were detached to for shorter missions. It happens all the time. Yep. I call them priests, you can call them imams or whatever you’d like. Same word, doesn’t change anything about the story. And it’s my fault that I went to a “bad va”? What does that mean, exactly? Do tell us. It’s pieces of shit like you that have made me hate this country. You veterans are a cancer to this society.

i notice that every time i show this film or see someone react to it. everyone shuts up and starts listening to him and hold back tears during his speech. I think this was a cinematic masterpiece in story telling in some ways because all through the movie he barley says a thing and what he does say is his usual threats and warning etc. but at this point in the film is the most he has ever spoken and its his true feeling no longer being filtered by his fight or flight. and one thing that always chokes me up is when his voice cracks high as he talks about his friend dying. it was so real and breaks me every time

@@ryanwood6754 def right. Also I realized from what you said he doesn't speak much so it's almost mysterious and with everything that happens to him your just waiting and waiting to hear him speak..it's like a build up to his emotions and then explodes

I wanted so badly to give him a hug. No one is ever the same or even normal after going through something like that

"And nobody would help" does it for me. It's so heartbreaking. No one could help him put his friend back together... no matter how he pleaded for help, what was done could not be undone. Its such a good metaphor for the traumatized vets coming back from war. They're begging for someone to help put their minds back together, and there's so little anyone can do about it. The damage is in there and it will stay there until the day we die. "Wretched man that I am! Who will save me from this body of death? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord."

What is it like a year from basic to the end of ITC to learn to be a rifleman in the marine corps? According to Sergeant Colbert of First Recon they only have him a week to learn to be a Civilian again. That’s not enough time. Our war fighters need more time to process and decompress. You don’t just exit that state of mind. It’s no wonder so many vets end up dead, on the streets or in a PMC.

I did a tour in the nougaty center of Asia and got medicalled out because of grand mal seizures. The weird thing is that on top of the PTSD, I had lost a career through no fault of my own. When I got out, they ended up sending me to grief counseling because of losing the Army. It sounds weird, but it helped.

As a vet of thee wars, I can attest that the lack of camaraderie in the civilian world is what I miss the most. All of the people I am closest to are vets or those who support us.

I thought he said pumping gas not parking cars 😂😂😂😂

I can back up that statement. I used to shot off million dollar missiles, graduated top gun in basic. It is hard to explain.

I hope it gets better for you in time. I've been to Ukraine many times and I think about all those poor guys over there. Many of the survivors are going to end up with broken bodies and minds. Atleast they get credit for heroically defending their country unlike the poor bastards that fought in Vietnam

​@@donaldshotts4429My brother returned from Ukraine. He says it's f...g hell... And that he'll never go back there for anything.

No, there is war. War is here, as it is everywhere. Evil men trying to convince good people to do terrible things for them so they can use them up and throw them away while getting rich. They just lie all the time, making up excuses and justifications as if they could ever fucking justify the shit they put all these kids through. The first rule of war is deception. Learning you've been decieved all your life by using what you believe in to make you become what you would've hated. By keeping you lost, isolated, and confused, by making sure you need help from them they prevent you from changing the game from "corrupt politics" that everyone knows about yet do nothing to stop or hold them accountable for the laws they broke into a true conflict over which they have no control. War is chaos. Everyone can die at any time for any reason, that is fact. But it is one that politicians try to deny every day of their lives because that means everything they did to "maintain control" and gain the power to control others was meaningless. Monsters exposed are monsters hunted. Lot harder to survive the chaos of conflict when you are everyone's priority number one.

Literally the one time I opened up I got red flagged. Cops picked me up, I spent the night in a cell, saw a judge in the morning, sent me to a psych ward for a week then required me to outpatient. I never threatened anyone, never mentioned suicide. I mentioned some dark shit, and that years later its still in my head. My neighbors think I'm a drug dealer or something now after seeing all those cops, I missed a week of work and got stuck with a 6800 hospital bill. Got my guns confiscated too, still working on getting those back.

you deserve it@@cpob2013

F-ing heavy, still and always!

I know right?! That sheriff was a major asshole and started this man hunt and we can't forget his dibshit pal with the sniper rifle, sheriff deserves to lose his job for this

All I wanted was something to eat ...but that kingshit cop !!!

"That King Shit Cop"

​@@warinsidemyhead8939 should've taken him to the waffle house and let him have his filll

100% agree

I love her. She's got empathy, she cries, she's in pain. And that's all because she has a kind and open soul. ❤

Facts

Hard not to agree with that.

Another movie that's overlooked as well by most is Copland. Great movie with an incredible performance by Mr. Stallone. Anyone who hasn't seen the film it's certainly worth a viewing.

Stallone's done everything and is still going strong after nearly 50 years. Besides being one of the greatest artists in movies, he's also a brilliant business man.

and to think, john rambo kills himself in a unreleased version of this, after him break down,( Rambo First Blood (1982) Alternative Ending) search this

Creed ? Lol so many movies he's in are better than that

Love you buddy I know where you're coming from. Hope you're doing well. Its not your fault.

@@the.seagull.35 Thank you.

shoulda won the supporting with Creed tho

people mock him just because hes an action star but thats just the genre of film he was in and the content of its time (since we dont really have action movies like that now) but as an actor stallone is actually very good when given roles like this.

Don’t forget Rocky.

Oscars don't deserve him though.

@@Burago2k This is true. EDIT: To add to this, I never liked how Sylvester Stallone was denigrated and reduced to - in many cases - a simple, mindless action guy. Personally, I've always found him to bring a genuine and sincere depth to the characters he plays - as opposed to contemporary so-called "Hollywood stars" who don't seem to make anywhere near this level of impact. But it's not their fault, what can they do? It's the quality of the scripts and films that are produced - they need to make a living like everyone else...

then my work is done...

So much pain these vets have lived with not to mention the young kids who could never understand till much to late. Nothing good comes from political wars. I understand fighting for freedom and liberty but Vietnam was something I just don’t understand what the American citizens benefited from. Sure I see how government and business profited from to this day. The cost on us Families/kids is not enough for me to say it was the right thing to do. But here we are. More money for foreign wars at the cost of American citizens.

Casualties of war rarely ever are confined to the battlefield.

​@@jhas727 while I get what you're saying, I think just because your father was damaged from the war doesn't make him not your father. Even if he can't be exactly the father you wanted because of the war... He still is your Dad.

Yeah, people should not blame the soldiers for their superiors mistakes. They were just following orders.

@@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051 yeah I don't blame the Nazis at all

@@ahmaranwar1488 This ignorant statement of yours becomes hilarious after you research the amount of times the allies shoot down Nazi soldiers who were surrendering, or anything about the american racial concentration camps, or that time the US forced the brazilian army to participate on the war by shooting their boats down.

nothing compared to all what the people they invaded their countries and killed their families suffered from

I suppose you’re right. War has both bloody and horrific tragedies as well as inconceivable consequences no matter wins or losses because pain will be felt on both sides regardless.

Damn, never knew that about Marius. I wonder if Julius or Sulla had it?

Stallone also fought like a man possessed (fitting, huh?) in the edit of the film to have his dialogue stripped down to the bare bone you see in the theatrical release. He didn't see John Rambo as having too much to say, and I think it works because the less he says, the more the audience can infer and perceive from context. Stallone still deserves the Oscar. He should get it retroactively in my view. He did brilliant work with this movie.

I do love the paradox of that character, and the contrast it provides to Rambo. A dictatorial, vindictive and spiteful authoritarian who - when confronted - loses all semblance of control and flies into a bloodlust that effectively costs him his life. And they were acting like Rambo was the savage, acting out for no reason? Brilliant antagonist.