“Pirates are evil? The Marines are righteous? These terms have always changed throughout the course of history! Kids who have never seen peace and kids who have never seen war have different values! Those who stand at the top determine what's wrong and what's right! This very place is neutral ground! Justice will prevail, you say? But of course it will! Whoever wins this war becomes justice!” - Donquixote Donflamingo
@@jachiikemadubuko8875 Unclear Justice.... but eh close enough. I think technically Fujitora is Blind Justice, or that might be a little on the nose give he's actually blind.
I am going to laugh my ass off if Hibari actually is confirmed to be Akainu's daughter, and laugh even harder if Coby x Hibari becomes cannon on top of that.
Bro you fucking go off on these theories like your philosophy on one piece and life in general is awesome. Like you compare one piece to real life and make all these connections that apply in the real world it’s actually cool as fuck good job bro
@@JoyBoyTheoriesay joy boy I have a few theories of my own but lack knowledge in making videos of them. Mind if I pick your brain on a few of them and if you're convinced would you be open to making a video for those theories? One of them is the complete line up of tje straw hats from the ones already joined and the ones yet to join.
@@EzPz1337 I'm sure all the college kids are happy with a few days off and easy finals. And let's not act like for the last 50 years, that certain governments that we can't mention by name unless we feel like we want to be censored. Haven't been doing the right thing and sticking to their borders
@@edd2184 i was referencing ucla on the news and how OP was commenting about people that are angry over past grievances that they have never experienced.
@@mrbubbles6468i wouldnt completely say it doesnt make sense, luffy has shown disdain for akainu such as when he grabbed his chest scar like shanks did his eye scar when he was talking about blackbeard to whitebeard. Does luffy hold a revenge boner strong enough to distract him from his goals? No. But the dude forsure will punch akainu hard as hell whenever they meet in person next.
I'd put my money on both Dragon and Akainu being Garp's proteges, and having drastically different reactions to the God Valley incident and Garp's role in it.
We already know that Kuzan was Garps protege, but there's never been anything indicating Akainu. When he killed Ace Garp was ready to murder him, if Kuzan had done it there would've been a much different reaction beyond blood lust
I'd put my money on that not being true 😂. We already know Kuzan was Garp's protégé, I doubt another admiral was too. Not to mention Garp's willingness to kill Sakazuki and Sakazuki's lack of hesitation in killing Garp's adopted children.
Honestly, Dragon being Rock's kid makes a lot of sense. We don't fully know Rock's story or his ambition, but Dragon and him are similar in the sense they sought to turn the world upside down but through very different means. Dragon wants to eliminate Celestial Dragons and bring justice and freedom and a new kinder version of order to the world, while Rocks wanted to rule the world through violent chaos. Also if Dragon is really Rock's kid, and Luffy's mom was Garp's biological mother, then Luffy becomes Rocks Monkey D. Luffy. The only real significance is Rocks Monkey, which could be rock monkey, which (if my chinese mythology doesn't fail me) is what Sun Wukong was born from, a rock monkey on top of a mountain, and who was Luffy raised by? Mountain bandits. Which if true makes for one hell of a cool connection theme.
@@msaag5490 I heard from someone that there is a different word for Son in law in Japanese and Grap used my son so obviously he's not his son (son in law) Edit : Some people didn't understand sarcasm so I will change it
Just some theory crafting about Akainu's childhood. I imagine scenario like what you mentioned in this video, where his hometown or something was raided by pirates. And the adults running the place had a moment where they managed to turn things around and capture the pirates, and decided to do what Otohime did for Mjolsgard and spare them. But the pirates came back with force and finished the job, and he, like Robin, was the sole survivor. And so the lesson he took from this is to never trust a pirate, and never let them escape, because they will become a bigger threat if you do. It also explains how he knew Luffy would become a greater threat and went straight for the kill. You could change a few details around, but the general outline of this idea makes sense of his absolutist/Piso's justice mentality.
"Anime genetics" is definitely a thing. It's been clear for a while since Oda drew Luffy at age 60 Luffy looks like Garp and prime Garp looks like Luffy drawn at age 40, Dragon doesn't look like either, Dragon is definitely adopted into the family and the mom is Garp's daughter That's pretty apparent with Shimotsuki Ushimaru whom we all thought could have been Zoro's dad but was in fact his great uncle, because of "anime genetics" That's precisely why it's pretty clearn why Tashigi is another Shimotsuki and another cousin of Kuina 52 years ago 25 people left Wano and 10 stayed to build Shimotsuki Village while the other 15 wandered around so it's pretty obvious that every character with Japanese (Wano) aesthetics or something related to Japanese culture is clearly from Wano such as: - Akainu, he has a mafia irezumi (sleeve tattoo) - Fujitora, pretty obvious - Kumadori (and his mom), he has obvious kabuuki theme - Tashigi, anime genetics, obviously another Shimotsuki cousin to Zoro and Kuina
The rocks being dragons dad is what i have thought since i saw his silhouette. 100% confirmed it for me when we saw how rocks ran off just like luffy. It was just how he acted. Also whoop slap saying maybe it was his fate to be a pirate is because he knows dragons lineage as well.
@@Ben-iz9ud isn’t there a different Japanese word for son in law? I’m open to it being a red herring tho, especially if Dragon became a son to garp after training him like kuzan
21:25 less like Guy & Kakashi more like Endeavor & All Might ..Akainu couldnt catch up to his rival within the Marines then Dragon just Up & Left his world like All might without a Quirk. He was Furious the #1 spot felt handed to him
Akainu probably has seen his parents getting killed by pirates when he was a little kid. I predict Akainu dying in the end because he will go all out against both pirates and the world government at the same time. He will probably cause huge damage to someone or do something that will than turn out to favor one side (probably marines, aka Sword) before his last breath. And as he dies we will get his sad flashback that will explain why he is who he is.
Sun Wukong the monkey king was born from a rock, Monkey D. Luffy the king of the pirates comes from a lineage of 'Rocks'? Certainly some interesting things being said here.
100% Garp told Akainu "if you become admiral or fleet admiral, you're gonna have a sad time". Then he did, the curtain was drawn back, he learned about all of the legalized atrocities. The same thing probably happened to Garp and Dragon in the past and broke them. In short, only a broken corrupt person can have a higher leadership position within the Marines. Because of this, I bet Akainu has actually been questioning the corner he's in to the point where yes, he's begun making his own plans for martial law, the power to Rule.
I have something that adds to this Theory, its very small but it helps: In Chapter 957, Fujitora and Akainu discuss about the abolishment of the Shichibukai System. Directly after that, Akainu mentions Big Mom & Kaido teaming up again, to which Fujitora questions the return or Rocks D Xebec to which Akainu follows up saying this: “You don’t need to speak of it like some Legend, Its all reality” Take that how you will but i think this subtle quote definitely adds to the idea that Akainu 100% knows about Rocks as if through personal experience.
I gotta say man, you have some of the most well thought out and evidenced theories for any series I’ve ever watched. You do a great job of picking up on all of the subtext and clues left through the series so far and connecting them in ways that would fit SO well into the story as a whole, be it characters and their bloodlines, themes, overarching plot lines, etc. Hats off to you joy boy theories 🎩 Can’t wait for the next video and keep up the great work!
Glad someone is on the same page with me thinking that it is still possible that Dragon is not Garp's biological son. Ever since that the Battleship Bags flashback chapter, everyone uses the Garp line "My son became a revolutionary! Damn it!" as concrete proof that they are biological father and son. Given how prevalent the idea of found family is in One Piece and with us having the specific example of Ace calling Garp his grandfather despite their lack of blood relation, it doesn't make much sense to use that statement as irrefutuable proof of a biological connection between Garp and Dragon. Having Dragon being Xebec's son and his wife being Garp's daughter is just too perfect of a narrative set up for us to get information on Xebec's backstory, Dragon's backstory, and Luffy's mom. If Oda actually had goals of ending the story any time soon (5 years or less) you would almost need to do something like this so you can address all of this unexplained lore in one fell swoop.
In some databook, it was said that Dragon was born "as Garp's son" but I would not be surprised if Dragon still ended up being his adopted son. If this does end up being the case, there is going to be some long lost biological daughter shananigians with Garp.
Just cooked up a whole feast man. The content continues to get better, which is crazy because you've been doing this for so long. Appreciate the hard work man. Thank you.
19:55 "Akainu saw Dragon as the person in the marines he was chasing" and "existed in the shadow of dragon". Oh, kind of like where it seems like it's going with Shanks and Buggy. This comparison kinda helps me see why he would resent dragon so much, as Buggy resents Shanks for essentially failing him. Akainu would despise Dragon in a similar way, makes sense, I like it.
Despite having such powerful navy characters like Garp, Sengoku, Akainu, Kuzan, Kizaru, Fujitora and many others but the only favourite Marine which will always have a huge respect and love in my heart is Donquixote Rosinante a.k.a "Corazon". ❤️🔥😎 He and his elder brother Donquixote Doflamingo recieved the same love, care and kindness from their loving parents. After leaving the holy land of Marijoise, they also recieved the same kind of hate, pain and cruelty from the humans. But Doflamingo killed his father for bringing them down, blamed him for all the pain and suffering he went through and became pure evil! While Rosinante never forgot the love, care and kindness his parents taught him, joined the marines and became kind hearted. He could have just stayed away from Law, he could have even get rid of him but instead, The Legendary Corazon gave his best to find the cure for Law's incurable diseases and even died like a legend. ❤️🔥He didn't even fought to his full potential, I'm not saying Doffy would lose but that would be a dope fight! Doffy is trained by Trebol and Rossi is trained by Sengoku. But Corazon didn't even tried to fight.😔 He gave everything he had left, just to help Law and make sure he escapes successfully. 🔥🤷🙇 Donquixote Rosinante was murdered. Shot dead by his own brother Donquixote Doflamingo, by the exact same gun Doffy used to murder his loving father. 💔 Why? Just to save a life of the kid whom he had absolutely no relationship and nothing to do with. ❤️🤷🙇🙇 Edit : The best marine in the history of One Piece. Atleast he is for me. ❤️🔥
WIPER, AKAINU, HORDY got something in common based on what you said about Hordy and Akainu being blind to what they follow. Wiper was programed by his Elders just like Hordy was programed by the actions of Arlong. We gotta see who programed Akainu
You were in your BAG with this one Joy Boy! Love the triangle theory, the FOIL proposition, and the Dragon backstory i think will be slightly different but you are on to something with the comparisons of who is raising who
Broooo another banger! I was never a fan of the Dragon is Rock’s son theory but when you cook it up like this I’m all in! Also the triangle of order, justice, and freedom is 🔥🔥🔥 We appreciate you JB
@@JoyBoyTheoriescould you tell me what the background song at 8:00 is? For the life of me it is on the tip on my brain and im convinced it is some 16 bit game soundtrack. Some supernintendo game song maybe? HELP ME!
You killed it with the dragon is xebecs son theory. It connects all the puzzle pieces perfectly. Keep dropping ur theories JB!!! Ur logic is sound af!!!
Following suit to the tinfoil hat theory. If the timeline makes sense, what if Dragon was born from the egg on Rogers boat, so Roger entrusted Garp with Ace and the Dragon Egg. Which is why they named him Dragon cuz he came from the egg.
JB... Seeing the development on your channel recently really makes me happy. YOU ARE MY FAVORITE ONE PIECE RU-vidR, if not RU-vidr in general. The day you stop posting theories will be a sad day for humanity. I pray that after Oda receives the immortality surgery and Law dies (oops), Bepo eats the fruit and does the surgery on you. Keep up the amazing work. I think I represent a lot of people from the community with this thought.
Fun video. The relationship between Dragon and Sakazuki is something I absolutely need to see elaborated eventually. Also I love the Area Zero music being used :D
I have enjoyed your theories for a couple weeks now. I thoroughly enjoy your delivery method. But specifically in this video although it might have been drawn out I seriously appreciated the in depth analysis of Justice vs Order vs Freedom and the implications of that on the story and from a philosophical perspective
You always bring such context and design with your videos and theories I most always find myself drawn in. A pleasure to listen to you JB, thanks for another great video!
I just hope rocks being luffys other grandfather is real just because luffy being related to THE hero of the marines and also related to THE villain of the pirates is just so cool
I love this theory! Very well done! I think however, much like Rodger didn’t know about Shanks past as he was a baby in a chest that Garp wouldn’t have known Dragon’s past. I have a sneaking suspicion that if Dragon is Rocks son that he was found between being a baby or a little older. No more than 10. That he was informed by Garp and his daughter’s actions which lead to Dragon and Garp’s daughter falling in love and eventually having Luffy. Personally though, I feel like Dragon and Nico Olvia had a thing and he’s Robins actual dad and that’s the work she needed to complete. I don’t really know who I would guess is Luffy’s mom, but I definitely think Robin and Luffy are half siblings.
really great theory , it just like when oda included kuma into luffy’s past, it’s highly likely that we already have a lots of connection between dragon and the events we’ve already seen in the story… we can see the connections to marine Ford more clearly cause it is the biggest marine based arc , he probably have more ties to other arcs that we don’t know yet , big characters roughly at the same age could have connection to him too, i’m so excited to see his flashback.
Akainu has always been such a interesting character because even though he’s a marine, he’s just as much a pirate as the actual pirates are and I think that’s super interesting for a villain Like there’s not much separating Akainu from the 4 Yonko
Though.. in a way Akainu's stance in the marines is somewhat over the top and contradictory if you look to closely at it. Almost as though he is following the path of his justice very obviously while deliberatly ignoring everything that gose against it. but what if that's the point. If the revolutinaries do want to take down the Celestial dragons, the marines must accept the eventual outcome. the marines must be in a position to step in to fill their gap and insure justice is upheld. Akainnu and Dragon are two sides of the same coin. but they are Still the same coin. What if they are working on seperate sides of the coin? One works to remove the celestial dragons. the other works to take over the marines in a way that the Celestial dragons dont notice, to prepare a foundation of stability after the revolution succeeds. Or as a back up plan if the revolution fails.
hey joyboy, i found this interesting comment on reddit, hope you could keep it in mind, what do you think about it? comment: From what i can tell, the Gorosei's abilities mimic those of actual Yokai, so they telepathically communicate via a “third eye” type shit. Basically they are Gods and got that special link between them that humans don’t. Only thing that’s close to it is the voice of all things between the sea kings and Roger / Oden / Luffy.
Until the Aokiji flashback with Garp Dragon was never referred to as his son The only time that's close enough is in Post Enies Lobby when Garp calls Luffy his ''Child's child'' I'm not sure if it's clearer in japanese but it felt vague enough for a twist Now we had Garp calling directly Dragon his son HOWEVER We are in One Piece Found family is like air at this point and we have/had a living example of D member changing his name because of their parent So the possibility of Luffy's mom being the actual child of Garp is still there And that's why the idea that Dragon can just not be Garp's biological son is still a thing and i like that your theory matches with that idea
Oooo dragon could be like the Sabo to Rocks’ ace. Like rocks could be the real son of garp and dragon could be the found son. That or they could both be found sons but still
My personal theory is that Dragon was present at the ohara buster call, and that was the event that pushed Dragon to leave the marines. This would have been why dragon visited ohara at the same time as vegapunk and why dragon called robin "the light of the revolution", because she is living proof that the revolution is necessary. I didnt know sakazuki was there, but it makes sense if he and dragon are foils of each other. They could have been brothers in arms, and one followed the orders to the letter, slaughtering innocent civilians, while the other was horrified and left the marines due to it, which probably would have left sakazuki feeling personally betrayed by dragon
No man I appreciate the thoughts you put out there literally its "out there". Idk looking at Garp and Luffy they seem too biologically similarly especially kid Garp and even young adult Garp and Luffy look exactly alike (that may just be Oda's art style though 😅) Also I'm writing own books and analyzing different character traits and stuff. Even if I did write it all I still wouldn't even know how to publish it. So its neat you did it 👍
