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Thomas Jay Oord: My Heresy Trial 

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Dr. Thomas Oord is under investigation from the Nazarene Church for heresy. If found guilty he will lose his credentials and standing. What is the charge? LGBTQ+ affirming.
The conversation explores the challenges faced by Thomas Jay Oord, a Christian theologian, as he advocates for LGBTQ+ inclusion within the Church of the Nazarene. It delves into the theological, social, and personal aspects of this advocacy, highlighting the tensions and complexities within the church and society at large. The conversation delves into the evolving understanding of LGBTQ+ issues, the impact of personal experiences, and the intersection of faith, science, and love. It also explores the challenges faced by the Church of Nazarene and the broader implications for denominations. Thomas Jay Oord's commitment to love and the pursuit of justice is evident throughout the discussion.
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@deadfdr
@deadfdr 29 дней назад
A rare sane discussion. Thank you.
@liminalliving
@liminalliving 28 дней назад
Thank you for the watch!
@chrisfair11
@chrisfair11 21 день назад
I feel like all of this should be evaluated by the This Little Corner Of The Internet people, you would be a great guest/situation for Paul Vanderklay to follow.
@chrisfair11
@chrisfair11 21 день назад
"I don't like your box, fit into my box."
@jacquedegatineau9037
@jacquedegatineau9037 Месяц назад
Update: On July 28th the board of discipline arrived at a unanimous verdict of "guilty". Oord's credentials were withdrawn.
@liminalliving
@liminalliving Месяц назад
Thank you for the update.
@CarolForsberg
@CarolForsberg 3 месяца назад
Dr Oord, You are very brave and I appreciate the clarity and heart that you display while modeling a truly loving attitude towards LGBTQ+ people. I think it will be a relief for people to evolve into an inclusive attitude towards queer peolpe because, as you said, a loving attitude is so important in a spiritual life. As long as we're excluding people from this love, the world suffers. I do recommend that you take a close look at the current medical practice of giving children hormones and puberty blockers and surgeries. The cases of true gender dysphoria are actually quite rare. Children are very vulnerable and malleable, and the forces of social media as well as peer influence have turned the transgender process into a fad .There are many transgender young people who regret their actions and seek to detransition now. Also parents whose children were secretly groomed by activists were denied the right to be actively involved with their child's process. It's a very complex issue deserving attention and thought. In England the National Health Institute closed down their Children's Gender Clinic because tons of parents are suing them. I will send you references in another. comment.
@07triman
@07triman 2 месяца назад
I appreciate your comments of support for LGBTQ+ as well as acknowledging the complexity of hormone treatments in kids. I have a former coworker whose son was quite short. They put him on hormone blockers to give him a chance to grow more. (I guess growth typically slows during puberty?) I fear that the laws being passed now don't reflect the complexity of the situation. While I fear kids making gender transition choices before they are able to make that informed decision, I have also heard from people who as adults are grateful for the gender care they did receive as a teen. As you say, it is complicated.
@davidgoldsmith8371
@davidgoldsmith8371 2 месяца назад
I assume that Dr. Ord is familiar with a paper written by Dr. J. Kenneth Grider. He was a well established Nazarene theologian and wrote a well documented paper showing that queer was not a choice. The paper was never presented due to pressure by the Church of the Nazarenes leadership. That paper helped me to conclude that acceptance and affirmation were both correct and necessary for Christianity!
@liminalliving
@liminalliving 2 месяца назад
I will pass this info along and look for that paper myself. Thank you
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