Thor-Smashing Coins into Awesome Rings (w/ Alex Rangel) 

Do keep in mind the difference between quenching and annealing steel and something like copper. Quenching steel will harden it. Of course, quenching copper in this case would soften it. Other metals that are softened by quenching are some aluminums, zincs, nickels, etc.

I want one person to harness all the skills learned throughout the years on this channel and become the one true rogue

The deburring tool, as simple as it is, ends up becoming such an essential toolbox addition. You don't realize how much you need one until you have one.

for people who are confused by the quenching/annealing process: Non-ferrous (no iron) alloys tend to react very differently to heat treatment compared to ferrous materials. Steel hardens if you heat & then quench it, while it gets soft if you heat it and let it cool slowly. Non-ferrous alloys like this coin do the exact opposite - slow cooling hardens, quenching softens.

I would REALLY love to see you guys work with Alex Steele one time. That man knows all things forging.

Gentlemen, I'm so glad to see you post a full video again. I was beginning to wander if you'd been captured by the Changelings.

"you don't want to turn into a Smurf?" That is some really niche science knowledge and I love it. For those of you who don't know, silver build up in the body has been known to make people turn blue or purple. The condition is call Argyria

Always nice to see Alex Rangel, as an old fan of Scam School, I still remember and love the trick he did with the cut deeper force where he got really lucky to have the card in a random spot in the deck, or when he showed off the escaping the rubber band trick

I love the episodes like this one, where you're actually learning something. Those rings are beautiful!

That scene from Hacking the system made me feel old lol. I remember it being one of my favourite shows back then. It's amazing how far these guys have come

Hmmm...wonder what the old metal tokens used in video game arcades of the 1980's and early 90's were composed of? I wouldn't be able to do this with coins, but those tokens were never legal tender outside the arcade and can't be used now...

9:48 For some reason, I was waiting for him to make the coin disappear lol!

DUDE! I love that Macuahuitl you've got hangin back there, huh! *_Cuz I'm A Prehispanic Rooooguee!!_* Unrelated note, here's a toast: _To all my fellow rogues, acquainted and otherwise, it's been quite a journey, lot's of lessons learnt._ _May the Duo keep reuniting us for many years to come!_ _Here's to adventure, to mischief, to rogues.I know we'll meet again..._ _-Cuz we're the Modern Rogues._

I've missed the Modern Rogue!

My grandpa was in the merchant marines in WWII, going all over the world and ending up with a few silver florins from Australia. He took one and made a ring out of it- story goes, he would tap the edge on the bulkhead of the ship until it flattened out, then carved out the middle with a knife. Similar product, very different method and with a different result; the outside was a smooth silver and the inside had the words from the coin. Forget exactly what they are, something like "1 silver florin" and "god save the queen". He died not long before I was born. When I was in (high school?) I found another of his silver florins and along with wearing that ring he had made, I decided to make my own the same way. Not exactly the same way- I tried to tap it against the concrete floor of the garage and mostly just dug divots. Took a hammer to it and made quicker progress. Tried to carve it out with a knife, wasn't having much luck, took the dremel to it. Eventually had a ring made out of a florin just like the one my grandpa made. Proposed to my wife with the one I made, they still wear it on their middle finger (I had made it to fit my finger 15 years beforehand, it was a little big :P) EDIT: lmao somehow I typed grandma first time around instead of grandpa. Bet there's some other fun easter eggs in here too

Seeing a magician handle a coin I cannot stop thinking about when the coin will vanish or transform.

There was a lot of excitement in Jason's eyes when Dawson's Creek came up.

As a coin collector, doing this to silver coinage bothers me. Doing this to a "gold" dollar bothers me less.

Hey, great to see Alex on MR finally. He's a man of many talents it seems, and a good instructor. I've always wanted to try making coin rings but I just don't have the kind of patience it takes. This method seems faster than some I've seen that just use a mandrel and a whole lot of tapping. Alex talks about coating it with clear powder coat for protection, but I have to wonder if polyurethane would work as well and whether it'd last very long. Good work guys, it's good to see you back, especially with Alex.

They're back! I've missed the standard videos, it's all been shorts and promos for weeks now.

As a coin collector this process pains me but man the ring looks amazing!

Love the guy's accent. "Haymer", "saynded"!

Great teacher. Very pedagogically presented.

I love how knowing he's a magician and having watched him before, he's guiding the guys like he's doing a magic trick. "Okay put the coin here. Great. Know Brian, put your thumb here and tear this off..." 😂 Still waiting for something to disappear, lol. I love you Rogues. And it's always great to see Alex! He is quite the Renaissance man it would seem. But regardless of what role he is choosing. Always a pleasure to watch. Great teacher and showman.

Oh man, this is so cool! I’d love to give this a try. Always admired blacksmiths. Forged in Fire is also the only TV show I watch. The craftsmanship is really orgasmic, just like tiny fingers are.

He said that when hardening steel, you just let it cool slowly in air. That would be annealing. Hardening is done by quenching. And you could not harden the coins in the video by just laying them around, that would also soften them. You would work harden them to make them harder.

finally, i missed seeing actual content in this channel

Gasp! A MR video that's not a goddam short!

I go to a trade school to become a machinist and I can agree, those deburring tools really are fun to use.

HEYYYY, great to see you guys back

A correction, allowing it to cool slowly would make it even more ductile, quenching is actually suboptimal for annealing. The annealing happens when you heat a metal over its annealing temperature, where the grain structure resets. This applies for most metals. Steels are the weird one out here, as they have several different grain structures depending on temperature due to the carbon added to the iron, so when you harden a steel, you’re freezing a certain grain structure in place by quenching, and then tempering it to regain some ductility by heating it to a lower temperature and allowing some of the grain structure to change into a less fragile grain structure.

Back in high-school I used washers instead of coins and did the whole thing cold. It was more "hit this until this thing happened, hit the drift on the edge of anvil, hit flat and keep working until even" It took a bit of guess work and there was a possibility of it splitting, but they all came out nice.

We did this in my high school welding class. We used 50 cent coins though.

I made a ring out of a quarter once. not nearly as nice though. kinda wanna make another one now

The way he is holding that mandrel and the coin I thought he was going to do a magic trick. 😆

0:35 when you said "a rapidly decreasing currency" the first thing that came to mind was "what? you cant make a ring out of bitcoin..."

Pro tip: when u anneal it, turn the lights down in the room so you can see the colors turning better. (My mom taught me this and she is a professional enamel artist and metal former)

@Alex Rangel what is the name of the fancier punch you used? This has been on my list of things to try for a very long time

For those working with metals...NEVER touch your face or rub your eyes after working with metal. Micro slivers (transfer from fingers) of metals can easily become embedded in the eyes.

this has got to be the best thing he ever taught on this show

Next time, Thor-smash awesome rings into coins and purchase goods with said coins

I’m confused about the annealing I’m a jeweller and work with things like brass in school and they told us too wait till it cools off on so it dosnt sizzle in water befor pickling it

Why did Dracula not want to attend the business meeting? He was afraid of the stakeholders.

What a genuine awesome person he is such talent

They're back!

Really interested in this skill any link on the tools used and pvc used?

Could be me, but that is not THE definition of annealing right? I thought the atoms had to realign themselves so you heat it to above the crystalisation temp, keep it there and let it very slowly cool down. This would be hardning

15 seconds in and Jason is making a Batman reference. Only good things can come from this

I do be missing these episodes

Where did you get the better tool to cut the hole?

In the video they made it for around a size 10 but how would you make one for a smaller finger? Would you get a smaller punch?

I have almost no idea what I'm talking about, but Isn't quenching what you do to harden something, and leaving it out what you do to soften it?

Annealing is typically done in steel by getting the work piece as hot as you would for quenching then letting it cool, not submerging it in oil or water. Am I crazy or is he just straight up wrong? I'd perform work on the piece and occasionally heat it up to as hot as my torch gets without melting then let it cool naturally in sand to anneal work hardening materials like copper.

Finally a new episode!

I’m assuming you just need to remove enough material from the center so that you can fit it over the mandrel? Edit: ended up buying the punch set from Harbor Freight. First ring isn't perfectly centered but good enough for me; I tried just drilling out the center but it didn't work. Also, if you see an aluminum mandrel online, don't get it; get a steel one if you want to use it to make rings like this.

My grandfather used to make these

"You have tiny fingers." Coming from Alex, this just might be a compliment.

"It's like a glass of farts." lol

how have they never seen a deburring tool

Huh, I literally just learned liver of sulphur was a thing this morning reading about phlogiston theory.

So glad y’all ain’t dead. Welcome back

By God he is one talented man.

FINALLLYYYYYY!

Yeaaaah... Jason saying it's going to be fine is one of the most ominous sounding things I've ever heard... Have no idea why, but yeah... 🤣

Annealing Annealing and Anneal again !

Yay! Not a short!

Shout out Dawson Creek!!!

Quenching anneils certain metals and hardens others

8:37 that's most likely High speed steel as there is no such thing as Carbide steel and Tungston Carbide is very much the wrong material for a small bend blade like this

as someone that makes rings I just kept yelling at the screen Use a Dremel!

Whoa whoa whoa, stop stop stop 5:45 what did Brian do to his hand? Where's the injury counter?!

THEY ARE BACK

quenching and annealing are contradictory of eachother

What Alex said about annealing was pretty far off. When you quench (dunk in water, brine, oil) you harden the metal, letting it slowly cool down is how you anneal it.

With the number of people turning out of mint coins to rings, i bet the collector price of em is going up...

Heck yeah, another tutorial from my favourite rogues, on how to commit federal crime!

id love a ring of power

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What happened to the audio on this video? Everyone's voices sound like they've been processed weirdly

That's not how annealing works with steel

Modern rogue--you guys have totally vanished from my suggested feed--what’s with that?/ I just went searching for you. Glad you’re still going.

Am I mistaken or does Brian have a Pip-boy background on his watch? XD

All you had say was Alex rangel

How do you make it smaller without making it look uneven if it got too big?

Tks for adding the brl, all Brazil Thanks you.

Crazy cuz some of those coins worth thousands

Make an episode all about chess!

Lookie who posted thanks Mr crew for the content as always

Hey Brian, I see you wearing a garmin watch...I definitely sent you a friend request!

Yes just let them play with blades... what could go wrong?

is it just my ears playing up or was the audio a little weird?

I think you guys may have offended the RU-vid Overlords. I haven’t gotten a notification about your stuff for a very long time. Apparently you have been posting though

I'm telling you guys it sounds like you're Stephen Hawking doing your credits

Hi

In the first minute gang, rise up

Smithing : 100

Wonder if a Silver dollar would be good?

Yo

Jason just got way cooler in my book, when he mentioned Pacey.