You can argue Superman wins you can argue Thor wins but its literally it's 50/50 they are literally both outerversal scaling so I can literally agree with both arguments
Remember Thor and Superman are equally matched in strength but Superman has other powers that could give him an edge. However, Thor also have other powers and some of those powers including Mijoinir are magic based which gives him an edge over Superman, even if Superman lifts Mijoinir, it would also weaken him. Thor also has a berserker mode where he become insanely more powerful and at that point, it will be like Superman fighting ten Thors which would be his demise. No one wants to hear it but Superman would like piss Thor off and it wouldn't end well for our blue boy scout.
@@dharamveersinghBais you are not telling me that thor is fast enough to catch superman ! And is Superman that slow to be unable to dodge thor's magical attacks !
@@Chillythesilly I meant downplay in general with most Power Scalers not you specifically. He's higher showings are usually not scaled as high as they should be, especially the Knull and Phoenix fights.
Fighting Knull and Toranos definetly puts Thor High outer to high outer+ with immeasurable to irrelevant speed. Saying low outer to outer is kinda insane ngl.
So true, but let me ask you. Superman is stronger than Thor. Let's say that's true but what fool fights a man like that? Thor has the of magic. That's one thing, but how about Kryptonite? Always fight with your assets, and using kryptonite is Supes biggest weakness...it kills him. But what about Batman? Batman is not afraid of Superman because he has a contingency plan in case Supes goes nuts. Bats got some Krypton bullets or red sun bullets, something that can stop Supes...now if Batman has that, what can Thor do. And if it's Rune King Thor I think it's a rap. The problem is these writers. Rarely do they write Thor up to his full potential. I've been over at DC for the past few days, and I have to tell you....I've seen 6 video's about Supes, and 5 of them were epic...that's right, much better than what I've seen of Thor, and I used to be a big fan of Thor. But these writers have turned me off, and I'm not even going to talk about the movies. One guy said that they should kill Thor off...I kind of agree, and if they can't write Thor on the level of who he really is...then I agree. And again I used to love Thor, but those writers...are simply terrible..
When Superman dies, he comes back stronger He’s like doomsday, doomsday, dies, and comes back stronger. When Superman comes back stronger, he’s invincible
Let me give you an extra feat,in “The Phantom Stranger (2012) #18” Superman made the phantom stranger bleed with a single punch,he also literally burst through the phantom stranger’s physical and metaphysical aspects of form,And The Phantom Stranger himself In “The Phantom Stranger (2012) #6” CASUALLY walked into a room in which SEVERAL MILLION UNIVERSES WERE COLLIDING!!And Superman still managed to make him bleed with a punch,as well as burst through his physical and metaphysical aspects of form,And this was NEW 52 SUPERMAN!!New 52 Superman is only a HALF of the Post Crisis Superman
The story of superman was such a great meta answer to the this guy vs superman argument.. they made him the prime existence of all fictional heros. Without superman there is no marvel thor, no goku..
Bro what are you talking about I don't share your opinion Thor was already part Norse mythology 😮 bro I'm not a superman diehard but That's subjective.
This is why I dislike Superman, He is well written but the writers literally gave him a power that says he can't lose no matter what.m because the plot demands it. Wow just Wow
Superman could also take blast from Gog who was stated have power beyond the quintessence and one shot mxy with his staff that was stated to have the emerald energy of the guardians of the universe, the cosmic power of the source and the combined magical might of Zeus and Shazam
*Superman trancends time space and matter he has power over distance dark matter the most powerful magic ever created which created DC itself power over weight temperature mind abilities wormholes time bending time and warping space touch invulnerability speed strength IQ ( PROVE ( Action comics issue 1050 / DC comics issue 29 / lord of order comics / warlord comics / sandman comics ( in these comics he was more powerful then dr manhattan and almost equally powerful then the presence he even was able to hurt the phantom stranger the very one who fought the spectre to a standstil damn the presence himself had to stop that fight ) PLUS if superman chooses to use stardips he becomes invincible geatly multi thousand on thousand on thousand times more powerful with even more abilities ( Superman's power sources is as follow :::: [ yellow stars white stars blue stars neutron stars dwarf stars magical stars plants the fire of apokalypse some matter the totality and sun gods and once he also use the construct of hell becoming more powerful [ this very guy ruled lucifers hell back in 2007 issue 666 he literally threw demons around like cardboard boxes* *True original Superman at full power will overpower MARVEL / DC / XMEN and all characters ever created all by himself instantly* *Everyone on that list is weak and pathetic when compared to the full true original superman*
@@Chillythesilly actually, Im a superman fan. Love both dc and marvel, however. But superman, superman, superman. All the way...for who he is, not what he can do, btw. what I mock is amateurs who clearly don't understand context and nuance and the artistic license that is taken in comic book storytelling, and instead, take that nuanced writing literally, while coming up with bullshit tiers that simply don't apply to anyone or anything in comics. You people just don't "get" the medium or how things work. ....Sincerely, a comic book collector, historian and actual authority on the subject for some 46 years now. LOL
@@pullcarsmelly8051 I don’t care what or who YOU are lol Of course I read and enjoy comics but my hobby is Powerscaling lol Stop being so Shakespearean about it
@@Chillythesilly "shakespearean"? Wow. You're like the baskins and robbins of stupid, kid. 36 different flavors of dumb. Don't require you to rattle off a list of your likes and dislikes. This isn't tinder. :)
@@Chillythesilly I know that you don’t believe that Superman is unbeatable.. The reason why I’m not a huge fan of Superman is because how strong he is well yes Thor is very powerful and super strong too but superman is just broken powerful That he can easily beat characters like current Thor and a few more of Marvel heavy hitters like that that means that’s kind of boring but the same time yes there is characters That can fight Superman.... but I do respect Superman absolutely. and I respect your opinions
Like imagine if you’re just as strong as Superman like what are you gonna do stand on nothingness if you build something or found something you can stand on or weakend yourself by kryptonite or something that can lower down your power so you don’t accidentally destroy everything.. is that the problem right there that’s the reason why Thor is very powerful and super strong as powerful and as strong Thor is he is not current angry hulk and he is NOT as strong as superman.. is Thor still a god of thunder is Thor still pretty strong without his hammer yes. The reason why I said this is because when I was trying out playing Roblox I heard someone said Thor is City level I just feel bad for characters getting disrespected like that... and one time someone said that superman can’t beat Batman in hand-in-hand combat fight without suit The thing is about Batman he is literally a no where near to Superman with just a bunch of money and plot armor and very strong super suit meanwhile current superman strong enough to beat characters like current Thor and odin... Superman is the father of all superheroes for a reason.. like imagine you could beat some sort of celestial’s from at that time.. meanwhile you got beaten by Superman.. Superman Wins yas.... what I mean is if you’re powerful enough that you could beat a some sort of a celestials in a few of different comic books and you get humbled by Superman in a fight 😆.. but yeah superman is the winner🏆
Superman is stronger than Thor. Let's say that's true but what fool fights a man like that? Thor has the of magic. That's one thing, but how about Kryptonite? Always fight with your assets, and using kryptonite is Supes biggest weakness...it kills him. But what about Batman? Batman is not afraid of Superman because he has a contingency plan in case Supes goes nuts. Bats got some Krypton bullets or red sun bullets, something that can stop Supes...now if Batman has that, what can Thor do. And if it's Rune King Thor I think it's a rap. The problem is these writers. Rarely do they write Thor up to his full potential. I've been over at DC for the past few days, and I have to tell you....I've seen 6 video's about Supes, and 5 of them were epic...that's right, much better than what I've seen of Thor, and I used to be a big fan of Thor. But these writers have turned me off, and I'm not even going to talk about the movies. One guy said that they should kill Thor off...I kind of agree, and if they can't write Thor on the level of who he really is...then I agree. And again I used to love Thor, but those writers...are simply terrible..
@@Chillythesilly No need to....The writers control everything, so it makes no difference. Opinions of readers doesn't make a difference. It's just crazy that Batman, who is just a very strong human has no fear of Superman, and has a plan for him...I'm just wondering why Thor can't use that advantage just like Batman. I also know that you never fight to your opponents advantage, and terms. And one more thing....Thor has more powers as well, but you know, again it's just done.
@@Chillythesilly Yes he does....there's a new video that shows that he does have more powers than before. For one, he can teleport, so if he was me I would teleport to a red sun or get hold of some kryptonite. But no matter because it's up to the writer. I think at Marvel there must be some Thor haters.
@@Prominent_intellect Thor got KOed by a sniper bullet like a b***h(which he is btw)Thor has never even destroyed a planet or solar system without his precious mallet lol,At least Superman can blow up a planet with nothing more but his bare hands
Ah yes… the DC downplayer who relies on low level scalers/debaters (their literal rankings in the main debating community 😭🙏) like drip_sauce and brutality to “debunk” DC super amateurishly and you goons literally EAT IT ALL UP. “DC caps at 6D ☝️🤓” 😭😭. Over abundance of proof for infinite geometric spatial dimensions and over abundance of proof for its conceptual existence being beyond physics and concepts including that of dimensionality is ludicrous. DC > your fav verse. Cope harder
@@CarlosGarcia91000 but I didn't get one thing like why his speed is irrelevant I see his speed like immesurable or something and it would be unfair amped Superman defeated high outer being just by one punch 😭
@@Clurge07-qna Superman actually flew faster than infinity although when he was amped, his speed felt across dimensions when he punched the world forger he destroyed his Multiverse and just to let you know the forger was not weekend
@@Chillythesilly it’s obvious that Thor just by himself no hammer is still very strong like let’s be obvious weakened Thor feat from 29 second of the video was pretty impressive if you have this much strength our punches must be super strong.
@@Chillythesilly i’m just saying that Thor‘s punches are super strong…. I’m just giving respect to Thor because people calls him weak because he uses his hammer… respect Thor and Superman
@@Chillythesilly who do you think would win? That was like 29 second in our video Thor no hammer vs omniman … I know this is nothing to do with our video
1:47 did Thor hold up creation all of creation or it was just a statement he cuz some fan claimed that he held the pillars of creation or something. Great video by the way
Another hero vs. Superman.. yep, superman is OG.. when Saitama came in, people immediately compared him to Superman and made Saitama vs Superman battles all over the internet.. Same with Invincible and his father. If there would be another powerful Superhero created, guess who they would compare it with.. Not Thor, Not Goku, Not Vegeta nor Sentry.. But F***in SUPERMAN.. that's how OG he is.. and obviously he wins time and time again...
Honestly very nice video. But I feel like you could've implemented some more Thor feats and scaling. Two weaker thors fought and shook all realities. Odin is multiversal he can destroy and recreate the multiverse. Currently, Thor is more powerful than Odin at this point as Odin's force is added to his own powers. Thor as a baby shook the world tree itself which is all of realities. Thor as a kid opened a book of infinite pages. Thor provided 1/4 of the power to stop the multiverse from collapsing. Thor with his Phoenix powers provided a fraction to stop an omniversal flood from destroying the Marvel omniverse. The world tree in marvel is all of reality itself. Its not just multiverse but also an omniverse. It holds stories, concepts, and cosmic beings such as galactus and the living tribunal. Thor just by believing in himself beat mythos who's took the odinforce and the power of world tree. So a base Thor beat a wielder of the world tree which holds infinite realities, timelines, concepts, stories, and more. Marvel gods are extradimensional ideas. Thor is a platonic concept and represent a Jungian archetype thus making him above numbers, space and time. Thor has immeasurable levels of speed as he time traveled, outspeed silver surfer, flew through infinite multiverses and dimensions in mere moments. You can also say that Thor can react at these speeds as well. He's also faster Jane foster who traveled the ten infinite-sized realms in a blink of an eye. Thor can amp himself with odinforce, some of his mother elder god powers, some of the Phoenix flames, and recently he took Zeus powers for himself and Zeus is stated to be equal to Odin. Supes vs Thor can literally go either way. The story of superman vs the power of Thor will be a wild one to see.
The 9 realms are planets. Thats why earth ( midguard) is one of the 9 realms. Also not sure how the asguardians rule earth ....i mean the greeks and Egyptian gods would disagree i assume. Lol
@Chillythesilly earth is a entire dimension? Because the asguardins have never claimed to rule....say the kree empire. Which is in the same dimension and universe as earth. Lol
Supes is strong fast has laser like eyes and can now detonate like a Nuke. Thor now has the Odin Force add that to a GodBast amongst 2 dozen powers of Mjolnir. They fought one in a cross over and Supes BARLEY won. Thor has absorbed Odins power since then and NEVER used his God Blast. Remember in another cross over Darkseids beams di not even make Galactus flinch while Thors God Blast made him run away. Popularity Supes, True Overall Power THOR!
Sups wins no doubt. Milnjr is not helping in this fight. Especially when superman is more than worthy of milnjr. Sups outclasses him in strength and speed alone. He is almost as fast as flash and there is no one in the marvel universe than can match flash in speed. Thors lightning is definitely not gonna touch sups. Sorry Thor but your definitely losing this fight.
The honest truth is companies allowing writers to have free reign to write stupid stories. Companies play this competition game where one levels up they're characters powers levels and abilities then the other follows suet. They keep doing this back and forth till both are ridiculously over powered and BORING!
@TimSurrealYT It's just as bad as kryptonite for Superman, regardless. ANY magic is bad for him. And ke isn't the ONLY Kryptonian affected by magic. His cousin and dog are affected by it as well. Yes, he has a dog. His dog's name is Krypto.
@@JoseFigueroa-iz2on wOw WhO wOuLDve ThOugHt hE HaD a DoG and no it's not as bad as kryptonite, he has multiple times outbeaten magical creatures and has a higher chance beating magical creatures than kryptonite weapons
@@Chillythesilly. A monitor said story of Superman is unstoppable and indestructible, and in the same comic the word inexorable was also used, but I don’t know how literal being unstoppable, because if it was literal, it means SOS is the most powerful thing in DC, period?
Story of Superman doesn't scale anywhere, it doesn't mean Superman can't lose in battle it only means he can't be removed from continuity as dc Cosmology revolves around his existence due to metaverse connection. This doesn't make him unbeatable. Thor would win
@@Chillythesilly it doesn't work cross verse as Superman legit lost to venom in a crossover,he also got knocked out by the avengers in jla avenger crossover... Anyways you can keep coping with your cringe head Canon think DC can dictate to other comic books companies
Superman got beat by a guy with no powers that dresses like a bat...The god of Thunder would win. You can't take a loss like that and then say he'd beat Thor. Magic is a weakness of Superman, Thor's got it in spades, and is his physical equal. None of superman's powers are really going to effect Thor, (heat vision...Thor's relaxed in the center of the sun, frost breath...he's a viking god...) The Magic hammer if you don't have silly writers is going to wreck superman. If we really have Thor go nuts he can teleport Superman to a dimension with no yellow sun and just let him whither a way. He could teleport himself to what's left of Krypton and grab a mectric ton of kryptonite. He can exploit Superman's weaknesses, but the reverse is not true. That being said he could beat him without resorting to that. Would Thor beat Superman in a straight up fight everytime, no, but if you don't have the writers being biased and just look at the two characters and their weaknesses, Thor embodies what you would imagine the nemesis of Superman being.
Yet Marvel is massively bigger than DC and has been for years and years. Reason... DC's horrible story writing be it comics, cartoons or movies. So how does that popularity contest go again you say?
The DC put him in the top 3-5 fastest being even beating a lot of flashes not all but a few. Plus he has that heat vision plus cold breath attack that he never uses that is really powerful.
Stop putting superman speed to this flash is faster but can't beat superman so I think it is bias also superman can't even beat Zeus and Zeus isn't that fast
@@Chillythesilly A monitor said story of Superman is unstoppable and indestructible, and in the same comic the word inexorable was also used, but I don’t know how literal being unstoppable, because if it was literal, it means SOS is the most powerful thing in DC, period?
@@Daverast01 that is perhaps because comics suck these days with no limitations against the greater supreme forces that are outside of the "hero". NO being should ever be stronger than the fabrics that weave the actual universe. As a result, MAN's conception of strength is unbounded.
@@TriuneSelf4444 i literally had no idea what you just wrote... I was literally just saying that just because Superman is vulnerable to Magic does not mean he's weak to it like Kryptonite he has beating magic users before and you're literally talking about fictional characters can't go above Universal is really a dumb argument when it's literally fiction it's it's not supposed to make any sense
@@Daverast01 Greetings - then let me explain the simple comment that was sent. Magic is a form of elemental use. The elements make up the very fabrics of the universe. So, how can any one individual be stronger than that which composes such said universe? The only competitor who should win is another with stronger control over those elements. In layman terms: Superman should lose to a good wielding magician and NOT beat 'so many that it is not funny anymore'. While it IS fiction it is suppose to make sense in comparison to the individuals powers and within the reality of the comic. If not than it would not have the strong fan base because fans will not buy/read/know about the comics that do not make sense (would you?). They all have a baseline and guideline of it's reality to develop the characters from. Good job on realizing they are fictional characters - your smart, bad job on realizing 'it's not suppose to make sense' (even though you read/have read the comics and care enough to comment again on them.
@@nelsonisc9670 Instead of just saying “u dumb!! Thor one shot Ooga booga!!!” Prove it then. Thor can’t one shot superman. And superman wins. If you disagree make an argument
@@nelsonisc9670 A: the crossovers aren’t canon or at ,east elseworld stories. B: he literally didn’t. And superman won the fight. Along with beating the hulk LMFAO. Get better arguments you butt hurt goon
