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Thoughts on Debian 12 Bookworm plus Downloading the ISO 

JustAGuy Linux
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I think this is the most important release of Debian in its history for desktop users. But, what do I know?
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Комментарии : 64   
@oneilmw
@oneilmw Год назад
I appreciate the Ventoy mention. It really has made switching OSs easy for me. I no longer have to go through the process of finding a tool that works for my current OS, knowing that that knowledge won't help me with my new OS.
@BartekBroniszewski
@BartekBroniszewski Год назад
Thanks for much needed Debian love, it is sad like most of the time ppl do not appreciate what Debian is and what it offers in the Linux world. Thank you.
@markjones2349
@markjones2349 5 месяцев назад
I've been using Linux exclusively for 16 years. For the average user Debian offers a confusing website, 15 different ISO that they like to hide from everyone, unpolished desktop experiences, and a huge avoidance to change.
@phonewithoutquestion80
@phonewithoutquestion80 Год назад
Hey hey, sending this from my Debian Bookworm machine. Was rocking Fedora Silverblue but felt some nostalgia for Debian, having been my first ever distribution, and decided to install it on bare metal to ride it out for a few months. See how that goes. I'm keeping everything either Apt/Deb or building by hand, which is very little of significant impact beyond a window manager. Also sticking to stable. I am using doas instead of sudo and the Calm Window Manager (CWM), both of which are from the OpenBSD project. I followed your steps on setting up brtfs and timeshift. Very handy stuff btw.
@JustAGuyLinux
@JustAGuyLinux Год назад
nice!! Same. deb packages or building.
@TheUnkow
@TheUnkow Год назад
Isn't "su" much easier and bloatlesser if you want to just "do as root"? It doesn't forget your pass untill you exit/logout. I use sudo only for sudo -i in cases where I cannot use su. I wonder if doas has such an equivalent, would replace sudo if so.
@phonewithoutquestion80
@phonewithoutquestion80 Год назад
@@TheUnkow You'd be right, su is simpler, but for me Doas is just easier to configure than Sudo. Both Doas and just using "su" have their benefits over Sudo. Regular users won't really care about the differences. According to the OpenBSD Doas manpage you have the "-s" option which puts you into an interactive shell with a root prompt.
@eliinthewolverinestate6729
@eliinthewolverinestate6729 Год назад
Been using bookworm for around 6 months. I like the xfce desktop. But is about time I back up things. Debian is my favorite distro too.
@cezarcj9357
@cezarcj9357 Год назад
I'm writing from a Debian Bookworm machine also and I always loved this distro. I don't need anything else. :)
@jeffreyplum5259
@jeffreyplum5259 Год назад
I tun Mx Linux XFCE which is Debian based. It is moving to Debian 12. The new Debian base will make it easier for Debian based distros to work on their special tools not just adding firmware because Core Debian did not include it. I have one machine with an extremely low performance processor. I might switch to Debian 12 plus selected Flatpaks on that machine. I do not need most of what a full distro install puts on that machine. Once MX uses a Debian 12 base virtually all my systems will be running the same core software. MX already supports Flatpaks well, so I can run the same set of Flatpak apps everywhere. I applaud this move by Debian to improve the greater Debian community.
@TrustJesusToday
@TrustJesusToday Год назад
Debian 12.1 and SID are the best Linux systems at this time. My first Linux days were in June 2023 and I did the Ubuntu-POP-Mint-MX-etc hop. Debian 12.1 with plasma is really very good.
@jonathancadle1261
@jonathancadle1261 Год назад
They have the latest KDE, and that’s all I care about, tbh. I’ve been running bookworm as testing for months, and it works great.
@SusanAmberBruce
@SusanAmberBruce Год назад
Have you got an Nvidia GPU, and if so have you got that working with Wayland, or is it not possible?
@jonathancadle1261
@jonathancadle1261 Год назад
@@SusanAmberBruce I do have an Nvidia GPU, but I haven't tried to get it working with Wayland recently.
@brads2041
@brads2041 Год назад
I've tried debian a couple of times. I feel like this is the best so far. As for keeping up with software, the stuff I need to keep updated is flatpak not Deb repository so I'm happy. Also I think I'll be happy with Gnome 43 for a couple of years? It's a significant update from the past. 44 has some improvements but I don't think it is anything too serious.
@jesse7631
@jesse7631 Год назад
I feel exactly the same.
@phonewithoutquestion80
@phonewithoutquestion80 Год назад
Gnome 40+ had been leaps and bounds above where Gnome 3.x had lingered.
@dktol56
@dktol56 Год назад
The Debian installer probably remains antiquated looking because they keep one code base that runs on a wide range of architectures, often with very limited ram and video hardware. People forget that, assuming only x86_64, lots of ram, and a modern video card.
@ThisNoName
@ThisNoName Год назад
Expert mode, text installer only, antiquated indeed
@TheUnkow
@TheUnkow Год назад
I love them for keeping that old installer ... of one wants minimal, thats what you get ... If you want live installer, you must go beyond minimal.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
Debian installer brings memories of the ol' good days.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@@ThisNoName Those were the days.
@ThisNoName
@ThisNoName Год назад
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 expert/text is the one and only installer I have ever used till this day, followed by lxqt-core no-install-recommends ... bare to the bone
@abaneyone
@abaneyone Год назад
Debian is the first, the best!
@wiz3905
@wiz3905 Год назад
No Slackware was the first, althought Debian maybe the best. Except if you learn Slackware u get to know Linux & can take any distro base & customize it to your personal needs & interest that is one stop along the road🙉
@BobDoe_69
@BobDoe_69 Год назад
I like the decision of including the firmware or making the default iso the one with the firmware as opposed to before. MY life runs on debian literally
@NOPerative
@NOPerative Год назад
That freakin wallpaper!!! AWESOME!
@igrewold
@igrewold Год назад
Thanks man, good efforts 4:18 Please in the future, explain to beginners that # means admin/root and $ means user So whenever they encounter # they use sudo or su & exit once done
@wiz3905
@wiz3905 Год назад
I'm in the same position. I'm looking for a stable base & enjoy learning as I run Linux as a tool & for fun exploring my communications interests. Going to install WattOS on my laptop & explore Debian. Ease of use is gd but when somthing goes wrong its gd to learn to fix it. Except Debian is rock solid like slackware. Usually what goes wrong is I break something then have to figure out how😂 Going to download it, thanks for sharing.
@scottnoble5022
@scottnoble5022 Год назад
Solid and proven, stability and compatibility without headaches ;)
@Shadowzz.
@Shadowzz. Год назад
Thinking about trying debian 12 not sure, I love void linux it's simple and works so no reason to change.
@jonathancadle1261
@jonathancadle1261 Год назад
I’ve used both, and in general I think if you have something that works, stick with it.
@rickcontreras4943
@rickcontreras4943 Год назад
Peppermint Is solid system.
@linuxrant
@linuxrant Год назад
Debian minimal is the best basis to build your Window Manager Setup. If you don't know how to do it just find a step by step guide on youtube. easy peasy, no bloat, 200mb of ram on cold boot :)
@JustAGuyLinux
@JustAGuyLinux Год назад
Exactly right 👍. Been using that method for a while.
@josephdegarmo
@josephdegarmo Год назад
I'm switching from Fedora 37 to Debian 12 or MX Linux 23 with KDE Plasma.
@fstoplive1991
@fstoplive1991 Год назад
Where is the option for just the base install? Can't use the netinstall because I don't a steady download connection. 👍 on you video, thank you
@Chris-ip8uv
@Chris-ip8uv Год назад
I know you mentioned it before, what are you using for your DM (lol, or lack there of - some sort of console login manager).
@JustAGuyLinux
@JustAGuyLinux Год назад
I think you’re asking about dwm
@ThisNoName
@ThisNoName Год назад
Only managed to get it down to 480M of RAM at boot, missed the 300M days already
@folksurvival
@folksurvival Год назад
Your dwm looks good.
@give_me_my_nick_back
@give_me_my_nick_back Год назад
wow, what a great idea to name your operating system like some kind of new malware. I've literally clicked on this video thinking it's warning about some new virus hahahah
@SusanAmberBruce
@SusanAmberBruce Год назад
I've installed Debian 12 Bookworm with KDE desktop net install, has anyone got an Nvidia GPU, and if so have you got that working with Wayland, or is it not possible?
@JustAGuyLinux
@JustAGuyLinux Год назад
I am using an NVIDIA GeForce GT 710 on my production machine. BUT, I would not recommend the combo of Wayland and NVIDIA.
@SusanAmberBruce
@SusanAmberBruce Год назад
@@JustAGuyLinux okay thanks
@jarrettwalck3409
@jarrettwalck3409 Год назад
Deb is the best
@BWGPEI
@BWGPEI Год назад
Been there and tried that with a full download - not about to depose MINT / Cinnamon on my daily drivers. Just installed LMDE 5 on the test bed with the usual easy / simple install, and yes I use Ventoy (really handy in my world).
@cloakofshadow1
@cloakofshadow1 Год назад
just used your installer scripts again to install Deb12 with Awesome, so even if not using them for the specific wms/de, the scripts are very easy to edit and I get everything I need. One question, I paved over a Deb11 install because I didn't know if an encrypted install is meant to be upgraded. is it simple enough to just upgrade as normal after logging in?
@JustAGuyLinux
@JustAGuyLinux Год назад
no idea. let me know if you give it a shot.
@cybersechs1368
@cybersechs1368 Год назад
You sound like DJ Ware
@sagarhp.infosec
@sagarhp.infosec Год назад
Was using testing worked fine on my core 2 duo, was excited for the Bookworm but the Firefox and few other apps didn't work., Now on void Linux its working great., 👍
@JustAGuyLinux
@JustAGuyLinux Год назад
Sorry to hear that
@themadoneplays7842
@themadoneplays7842 Год назад
Me i think this video shows why I dont recommend Debian, as not only is its installer archaic compared to say calamares for example but the downloads page is a royal mess. I would more opt for sparky or MX
@jo-vrn
@jo-vrn Год назад
Hi I usually use Xfce and Plasma, yesterday I installed Debian 12 with gnome, live ISO, on an old desktop PC. My daughter liked the style of gnome. Then unfortunately in trying to uninstall useless software it uninstalled gnome as well. Are you planning to make a video on how to install gnome minimal?
@antonmaier5172
@antonmaier5172 Год назад
Still a black screen on reboot after install as an NVIDIA RTX user. Nothing has changed in Debian. NVIDIA users are still second class users for this distro.
@UlrichHoltzhausen
@UlrichHoltzhausen Год назад
Works fine for me with RTX3070 mobile.
@JustAGuyLinux
@JustAGuyLinux Год назад
On my production machine, I use an NVIDIA GeForce GT 710. Not sure if it helps at all, but I will do an install in the coming vids.
@lovfoot
@lovfoot Год назад
fyou will change bookworm for testing or unstable
@jamesba-xd7xf
@jamesba-xd7xf Год назад
if you install debian 12 do a FRESH install, do NOT upgrade from 11 to 12!, I did a upgrade from 11 to 12 on 3 machines and ALL had bugs that made the system unusable...( settings and terminal would not open), THEN I did a fresh install and all 3 machines run fine EXCEPT smplayer will not run on 12. . there could be other bugs that need to be fixed. IMO if you are on 11 I would stay on it for another 6-12 months untill everything is worked out. . debian is my 4th choice in distros behind mint, ubuntu, and zorion. I would reccommend mint, zorion and ubuntu for new linux users and debian for those with experience..
@merlingt1
@merlingt1 Год назад
Nonsense. I upgraded 12 machines from Bullseye to Bookworm through an Ansible script without a problem.
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