Thrawn's Return Explained 

Ahsoka's finale makes financial sense to stockholders. I now will look at SW like that.

Alan, if I buy ANY replica saber, does this mean ANY padawan saber will be free? Seriously considering buying...

I DONT THINK MOTH GIDEON IS DEAD THO

I bought your sabers (forgot the discount code but oh well). Here's hoping you really mean what you say about the quality and aren't just being paid to say it lol

I know it's sounds weird but how do you connect with Disney after watching Ashoka I thought to myself you did a stormtrooper zombie book segment Disney could do a mini series long version of that and other good books the series would have been better off being called starwars rebels ghost you got live action version of starwars rebels Crew which was good

Dave should’ve been writing the sequels

Hopefully the next trio of feature films will be done by them

Hopefully the sequel trilogy gets retconned

Though Anakin never trained Luke, formally. Perhaps Ahsoka shared her holocrons with him, but it's probably a paler substitute for the real deal. Luke lacks the ruthlessness that Anakin developed.

@@orokusaki1243Yeah, I think you might be right. Thrawn should be more worried about Anakin’s daughter and that temper of hers! Lol

Thrawn's concern about Ahsoka was pretty clearly due to his familiarity with Anakin's battle tactics. There was a nice nod to the Clone Wars strategy of surrender-then-commit-war-crimes with the line that "There will be no negotiations with the apprentice of Anakin Skywalker"

@@jetblast190 Kicking wookiees into garbage compactors! 🤣

I was just saying this yesterday. He's about to shit his pants and just throw his hands up like Jar Jar "I surrender, I surrender" 😂

From what I can remember in some "Legends" sources (and perhaps some cannon) one of the reasons Palpatine tolerated a Chiss "alien" as a commander in his (Palpatine's) otherwise "humans only" Imperial Galactic Fleet is because Palpatine was aware of greater threats from outside of a Galaxy Far, Far Away. Palpatine understood how intelligent, informed and militarily strategic the Chiss were and so Palpatine chose to align with Thrawn, and the Chiss in general, in order to protect and preserve the known galaxy.

That threat in legends were the Yuuzhan Vong, seems like they are going the route of Abeloth now, with Baylan looking for that greater ancient power and all

@@Preussenpenner In the new canon, I believe the Yuuzhan Vong is being replaced by The Grysk. Though, I don't know if SW will survive long enough to bring them into television or movies.

@@Preussenpenner the Yuuzhan Vong. Thanks, I could not remember what that threat was.

@@BalaamsAss Yuuzhan Vong are mindless organic attackers in EU. Not much different from Empire, forcing rule by brutal force. In the opposite to them Grysks are kinda like Palpatine. Firstly they start with training sleeping agents among their enemies to corrupt the system for them in education. With each new generation the agents get more and more radicial, more following their ultimate programming. These agents then invade education, goverment, entertainment, military of their enemy. As time goes on, the nation that once standing strong ground aganist Grysk, now is delusional, weak and supports Grysks by majority. The sleeping agents wake up too late to the real intentions of Grysk.

agreed. Want to know more about Morgan Elsbeth

@TopG371 Dude Filoni has writing credits going back 9 years! how long does it take to become 'seasoned' If 9 years is unseasoned then we should really hold Filonis work up against other writers who have a similar amount of 'unseasoning' If we ignore 7 out of his 9 writing credits to be super generous to him and say his first job was on Mando season 1 which is so generous its ridiculous and skips 20 years in the industry and 14 years as a director (none of which is seasoning at all lol) so he has only got 4 years under his belt and then compare him to poeple straight out of film school he still falls very short. In 4 years of Tarrantino being a professional (not skipping 20 years or his first 7 jobs in the roll) he had put out Resevoir Dogs, True Romance, Pulp Fiction, and Natural born Killers with story or writer credits. Hardly a fair comparison I know as he hadn't had the same level of time in the industry nor the hands on work with a legend like George Lucus but I think his work speaks for itself and that he overcomes the massive disadvantge this comparison places on him as an 'unseasoned' writer. Also if Filoni is so unseasoned why doesn't he have other writers to work out the rough edges? Are disney broke or is he too arrogant to listen to 'seasoned' writers if so he has no place in the Star Wars IP as its just too big to let someone so 'unseasoned' have so much output over the past 9 years. or 4 years as seasoning or whatever

​@@notwhatitwasbeforeTarantino is just as much of a hack as Dave Filoni. Both are terrible writers.

Look at all the credited, professional and award winning show writers in these comments.

@@JustCallMeJames "award winning" 🤡

because the night sisters know the reputation that mandalore has as a crusading force & warrior culture. you don't become as renown as the jedi & sith as a culture without a few galaxy wide crusades.

what about Yavin? what if the mandalorians go to Yavin and the nightsisters reign hell on that planet and it's moons?

Why would they?

@@mysteryjunkie9808 Mandolorians love fighting things. I don't know how long the Night Sisters were there, but they would probably be an early target if they were at Dathomir back during the crusades.

In legends Clone Wars novels, there was a Jedi that went full Mando with armor and gear. His .. Adopted .. brother through the traditions of Mando. Ask the former Jedi about the Force and if anyone could learn it and could a 30year old newly knight Jedi that went Mando train others in the way of the Force. The Jedi replied that a majority of Mandos were in fact already force sensitive. His brother asked " How so ?" The Jedi stated, " Many of you are so Lucky it is unnatural and could only be by the guidance of the force they survive. Other than you guys tend to Push things with grunt body strength from my experience could only be moved if you were using force telekinetic, some of you could levitate things if your outlook change a bit. Then its your athletics ability through years of train where it should not be possible to keep up in melee with a Jedi master yet many of you can. The force is already with you, you just experience it differently than the Jedi and without falling to the darkside like the Sith." His brother reply, :" Ok can you help me cheat at a game of dice ?" Jedi, " Only if you by me dinner." 2.) For my head canon, on how close their planets are and want we know of the cultures. The Jedi left the night sisters alone cause they don't act as a unified military actions off their home world, and other than a rare few that leave the planet, tend to stay out of the Jedi way. And sticking to locations outside of the Republic overreach. --- in short they are not war lords sending the galaxy into years of conflict like the Sith or fallen dark Jedi do from time to time. . Also Dathomir is so hostile you have to be force sensitive with enhance athletic ability to survive let alone have a thriving life there. As for the Mandolarians, they stop having conquest crusades and just hire themselves off as tactical mercenary units. For planetary survival training along with hunting, Dathomir is a wonderful place to visit, just don't die there. I wouldn't put it pass some Mando clans are mix blood with night brothers or sisters. Since Jedi have a bunch of rules against training people in the ways of the Force in case they fall to the darkside. Any child or adult that is overly good at cheating in cards and to unbelievable at dice, Mando takes those people to the night sisters for training. 3.) My past two gaming shops would have characters that look down a snipper scope and Vader force choke their target's ankle/knee causing a twisted joint from stumbling, which slows down the whole group they are traveling with. Use Touch telekinetic to push/slam others into walls & floors passing it off as just brute strength. Deflect baster bolts with a lightsaber or vibro blade, use a magnetic polarize shield. Unlike a Gungan energy shield if it loses power it is still a useable metal shield to fight with. Marvel Captain America ricocheting his shield off of thing and still bouncing back to his hands is so unrealistic it can only be done with Jedi telekinetic.

Battle meditation, resurrection and stealth enchantments along remote controlling a few senators and doing some of those killing curses they tried on Dooku. The Nightsisters don't even need to leave the safety of Dathomir and no one is going to notice 40,000 people on some distant low tech planet.

I think Thrawn will use the Nightsisters to bring chaos to the New Republic, while he will offer them order by going back to the Empire ways

Isn’t battle meditation like exactly what they did in episode 7?

@@OdetteM00 Battle Meditation is basically a luck buff for an entire army/navy so they are more accurate and can evade attack.

I'm guessing thrawn will be building up power for a while after arriving in the star wars galaxy. And may avoid conlifict while restoring the imperial remnant to full power maybe even while the sequels are happening.

@@opcreeper100 or the reason why the first order was able to take so much territory so quickly was because thrawn came out of hiding and a combined fully repaired and functioning remnant with the first order fleet was what crushed the new republic

Maybe they’re convinced thrawn is the last credible threat of the empire?

@@neofulcrum5013 I would be quite arrogant for the republic.

What if Thrawn just destroyed a bunch of ships and the New Republic never built more?

Maybe that’s how the movie starts

Imagine Gideon survived, joins another call, mocks Thrawn for not being there. Then Thrawn pops up.

@@HolyknightVader999He's... he's standing right behind me isn't he.

Yeah imagined him saying these words on screen “I am Grand Admiral Thrawn. I have been away, but now I have returned. I know some of what has occurred. You will fill in the details of the rest when I come aboard. Rejoice, for the Empire will rise again.” The original quote included the word Captain referencing to Pellaeon but the reason why I removed that line is because i think it would him addressed the imperial warlords and their remnants as well as the Shadow council itself?

I think you're right, and the reason is to reduce the amount of CGI/expensive prosthetics they need. The senator who keeps antagonizing Hera is an obvious replacement for the Bothan senator who kept butting heads with Leia. Bothans look like werewolves, so having a regular human instead probably cut the budget by a couple hundred grand. Now replace ninjas who look like oversized humanoid cats with a handful of creepy looking but otherwise normal women, and that's at least a million from the fx budget they can spend on other things.

From a narrative perspective that doesn't make sense. So far the night sisters acted more like a replacement of Joruus C'Baoth. It is through them as an intermediary that Thrawn accesses the Force. Turning them into bodyguards would be significant downgrade of their role in the story. I suspect that at least some of the caskets contain night-brothers, some of which might serve as body guards. So far Thrawn didn't seem to need a bodyguard 24/7. Should he decide he does, we might see more of Cpt. Enoch (and some other night-troopers) in that role. That would be even cheaper, since the armour and helmets already exist and as long as they keep in the background (as bodyguards should) and don't speak, a poorly paid extra instead of an actual actor is enough to put them on screen.

If they had one Noghri, they can get more, they don't need to just swap the entire race out fror Rukh

A thought occurs. The Nightsisters can make things invisible with their magic. That means he could pull off some of the same maneuvers he did in the Heir books, if someone in production is read up on them.

There already was a Noghri that Thrawn had under his employ. If I remember correctly he was killed by The Ghost Crew.

Thrawn's strategy seems somewhat similar to Imperial Japan's at the beginning of WWII. Thrawn/Japan know/knew their forces can/could not match their respective opponents (New Republic/U.S.A.) in volume and firepower, so their strategies rely/relied on secrecy and surprise. Hit 'em quick, hit 'em hard. Take advantage of the resulting confusion and chaos.

​@@skyden24195 You pretty much nailed most of his campaign against the New Republic in his Legends book trilogy. In fact, the channel Wizards and Warriors has some new videos breaking down that history.

@@SuperSaiyanD48 cool. Wizards and Warriors does great campaign videos, fictional and non-fictional.

@skyden24195 Actually, Kings and Generals is their non-fiction channel. Wizards and Warriors is strictly fictional.

@@SuperSaiyanD48 for sure. I realized that I had grouped both fictional and non-fictional to the same channel, but I figured you would know of the channel differences. Both channels are well produced.

In defense of the Ezra flying that Jedi shuttle. That is the same shuttle that Baylan Skoll used to fly around in during ep 1 of Ahsoka. Maybe he docked it in the Chimaera, allowing Ezra to find it and make his escape using said shuttle?

I think learning about Palpatine's betrayal and perhaps Thrawn sacrificing a number of nightsisters is a needed combo. Maybe even sacrificing Dathomir itself for a potential hight reward win. I know he considers such matters and he would plan to have the nightsisters no longer a threat should such a "sacrifice" move be necessary in his eyes. So many possibilities though!

@@ForestRaptor would make sense. A betrayal of a group he’s known for years is something he would likely not see coming as the Great Mothers didn’t know what happened on Dathomir likely.

Yeah, he is really😊 good

Centered with which point of reference? :)@TopG371

@TopG371 6 more years and he can run for president

In the scene where they turned her into the warrior witch, you could tell she had no idea what "reward" they were about to give her and was getting a bit freaked out. I was thinking, oh boy this is where she ends up badly.

they did seem a little... miffed? dismayed? they def didn't feel her die and where like " oh good" but more so " damn this is not good"

Honestly, I was expecting one of them or all three of them to transfer their "spirit" into her body before the trip. It wouldn't have surprised me if their bodies were tied to the planet so much so they needed an escape body. Dathomiri witchery scares me XD @@fnunez

Meh, just make "Thrawn" show, he deserves it.

might have her dealing with Abeloth and could have her killed/one with the force

I have been speculating the exact same outcome, that Ahsoka's destiny lies on Peridea and whatever it is that Baylan is seeking, not returning to the prime galaxy to take on Thrawn again. That's for Ezra and the other heroes, and hopefully (but not expecting) Luke.

The celestials could be reborn Anakin = The Father Ahsoka = The Daughter Baylan = The Son

She won’t be there that long. She should make it back by episode 3 or 4.

Yes and they say “Long live the Empire” as they see him

He already got a major brief from Morgan when she arrived in Peridia. Do not underestimate Thrawn's ability to ingest new information and be able to form a cohesive long term strategy with contingencies :) Going straight to Dathomir is step 0 of a plan that has been in the works in his mind for a long ass time. Morgan's updated state of the galaxy gives him the means to do that in the best way possible. And from there, well we are all speculating what kind of actions he might take.

I'm not saying that he doesn't have the bare bones of several strategies. But that's all he has, the bare bones. He has to join up with the Imperial remnant and repair the Chimera which is NOT battle worthy right now. @@ForestRaptor

@@misterevil1967 not to mention finding what kinds or resources the remnant has, ships and supplies and such. i doubt Morgan has that kind of tactical info

I agree

I hope there is room for both types of shows.

Andor is realistic perfection. Ahsoka is mystical and full of star wars wonder. Two totally different vibes

Agreed, it’s not close to me. I dunno I always feel Filoni’s writing is close to greatness, but never actually reaches it.

​@@89DienekesWell, no one is perfect. Not Lucas, not Filoni, and DEFINITELY not Rian Johnson.

The new republic suffers the same senator problems that the old republic had

=maybe= still alive :x

so interesting thing i want to point out here is that the nightsisters are actually dathomiri, but morgan elsbeth is human, so she looks different for that rerason. We'll talk about it more in the next episode

"The three fates" makes me think of The Norns, also in Norse mythology like the wolves.

Three women is a multi-cultural thing. Not just the Norns but the Hecate as well.

power drain maybe? like they were being powered were they were and didnt want to change them to be draining the Chimera's power grid

Everyone look under your seats! You get force powers! You get force powers! You get force powers!!

Thrawn is only able to play Chess because the mothers allow it. the coffins are nightsisters and will turn on him once he's served his purpose.

My hair, you shot my hair...

I was thinking the same thing. And as he dies at their hands, he’ll say “but it was so artistically done”

bring on the Hapan Battle Dragons!!

Not only is her corpse in another galaxy but she may not even have it anymore since they destroyed the building

Nobody dies in Star Wars

nah, Thrawn actually keeps his promises. plus betrayal is not his style or in his playbook.

Honestly I'd kill to know what Thrawn would do with something like an MC80 or 85

It'd also explain why, even after all those threats, the NR still pushes for demilitarisation, because they don't trust their navy