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Three $10,000 Sportbikes, ONE WINNER 

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Two of the bikes in this test are new for 2024: Suzuki’s $9,439 GSX-8R and Triumph’s $9,195 Daytona 660. Meanwhile Yamaha’s $9,199 YZF-R7 returns unchanged for another year following its 2022 introduction. Although there are other competitors in this class, we landed on this trio that align nicely in terms of price and power-to-weight ratio. What we ultimately discovered is that the machines we selected are really ideal for three different buyers. So our goal is to break down what bike is for which rider. And yes, in the end there is a clear winner.
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@ianralston3099
@ianralston3099 Месяц назад
I've just sold my beautiful 1992 VFR 750 that I'd owned for over 30 years. I'd toured on it all over England, Scotland, Wales and the Isle of Man. A perfect sports tourer. However, at 75 years of age I felt the VFR was sadly getting too heavy for an old man. When I saw the new Daytona and had a test ride I fell in love with it. It's the grandchild of a VFR 750. It's a perfect sports tourer but not an outright sports bike. It's more comfortable than the VFR and is so light and easy to ride , either in the towns or the open countryside. I immediately bought one and couldn't be happier. On the downside it doesn't have that lovely exhaust note of a VFR or as bigger "boom" from the airbox, but what the heck. I recall saying to a Triumph engineer at the UK motorcycle show many, many years ago, why don't Triumph build a middleweight sports tourer using the 675 motor? No plans I was told. Well, anyway they eventually got round to it. I did consider the other bikes you deal with in your excellent test report, but as my first bike in 1965 was British, I thought that maybe my last one would be so also. Again thanks for the report. Finally, where was the test conducted? It looks very much like California Highway 74, a road I know well from living in CA in the 1980s.
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Месяц назад
I have one major complaint about almost all motorcycle reviews - please state your height and weight.... A comment on handling or comfort when the reviewer is 12 inches taller/shorter and 120 lbs heavier/lighter is very significant.
@sbeast1216
@sbeast1216 Месяц назад
Hell yeah. I'm 6'1" 215lbs and most middle size sport bikes are cramped.
@pentachronic
@pentachronic 24 дня назад
Exactly the question I was just about to ask. It’s really important for us 6ft+ guys to know if our legs are gonna be in a world of hurt after an hour or so.
@petrol11
@petrol11 4 дня назад
For taller riders the 8R or 8S is your best bet of the three, plenty of space because mostly upright
@2WCapo
@2WCapo Месяц назад
A mention of their service intervals would be cool to add to the comparison, things like valve adjustments and spark plugs. It’s a detail I consider when buying a bike.
@reup4023
@reup4023 24 дня назад
I’ve been looking at the owner’s manuals for this info of bikes I’m interested in. With plenty of info available online a look through manufacturer websites it can be found.
@tonyfastboy
@tonyfastboy Месяц назад
The Triumph 660 looks like the original big bang R1. Kinda dig it.
@Ruudwardt
@Ruudwardt Месяц назад
More like 2008 Fireblade.
@screatyswote3035
@screatyswote3035 Месяц назад
Man that Suzuki is such a good looking bike. If it were 3 or 4 cylinders it would be a perfect bike.
@BiancaVBC
@BiancaVBC 16 дней назад
Great review! After 2 months of research, watching reviews like this one and a lot of on-paper comparisons between GSX 8R, the R7, the Daytona 660, CBR 650R and Kawasaki ZX4RR , I decided on my personal winner bike.. and THEN I found this video right here which only confirmed my choice! I've scheduled a meeting with a local dealer for tommorrow and I will get the Suzuki GSX 8R. In my opinion, it is the best price-for-value bike and as a beginner I find those safety systems very important to me. In Europe the pricing on these bikes is a little different than in this video, here the Suzuki is actually the cheapest of these 3 bikes! I am 5'8'' and 154 lbs, I got on the Suzuki the other day and both my feet were almost flat on the ground - which is also very important to me.
@BlackArroToons
@BlackArroToons 10 дней назад
Nice bikes and comparison. Parallel Twins at least the ones I've owned, are great for fuel mileage. My current '21 Ninja 650 just reached a record (for me) range of 233.3 miles on the trip meter from only a 4.0 gallon tank before needing to refuel. That's 233 miles of exploring the country backroads or riding the highways before refueling, allowing for great range (about 60 mpg average riding style) for a fun, relaxing ride while admiring the scenery. Lower revs, more torque can be great and speed isn't everything to a motorcycle's fun factor.
@wikstrom777
@wikstrom777 26 дней назад
I recommend, as an additional way to pick a winner, to include a drag race from a stop or roll. Perhaps even from different gears to expose torque characteristics from the different manufacturers. Just a suggestion… Keep up the good work! 👍🏼
@williammcdaniel5376
@williammcdaniel5376 Месяц назад
Give me the triple. Every time.
@bearwolffish
@bearwolffish Месяц назад
Watched so many reviews on these 3 recently and saw the R7 getting hammered as the engine gets a little longer in the tooth and middleweight audience favours a more comfortable seating position, but it's still the one I went for in the end. Looks play a big part, but also how plentiful parts are and how much documentation there is on maintenance. Wanted to push this bike not try to maximise trade in value. R7 makes a great platform, without much wasted on the things that get in the way like traction control.
@c-portraider7411
@c-portraider7411 Месяц назад
Exactly how I feel the R7 is definitely the sexiest of the bunch and im not really worried about it having the most speed or hp ive had faster bikes(R6, Tuono V4, etc) and I don't really care about a bunch of rider aids at this price point and mid level of bikes. The only hard decision for me is to get an R7 now or wait for the rumored R9
@mickromer6199
@mickromer6199 Месяц назад
That CP2 is a cracking engine tho 👌 sounds sweet with an exhaust but reliable AF
@MotoRiceVN
@MotoRiceVN 14 дней назад
R7 is best in the look department
@sportstermissions
@sportstermissions Месяц назад
The more time moves on, the more I see Kawasaki is the best of the Japanese big 4! Kawasski still build inline 4 engines. Parallrl twins have their place, but these are no effing middle weight supersport bikes. I ridd a Yamaha Yzf600r for commuting and touring!
@splodge5714
@splodge5714 Месяц назад
Triumph for the looks and that triple engine. Just get the forks revalved and a nitron rear shock and you have the best bike.
@blitzkrieg9925
@blitzkrieg9925 Месяц назад
You are the second person to suggest that. How much does it cost. I really daytona but the handling seems lacking.
@beefcoleman
@beefcoleman Месяц назад
If you are going to do that you should just buy a RS660 and you’d have a way better bike for the $ regardless of the upgrades on the triumph
@patthonsirilim5739
@patthonsirilim5739 Месяц назад
@@blitzkrieg9925 all of them lack decent suspension brake are pretty decent on all 3 dual disc with pads and braided lines it should be more then enough for trackdays and all of them would need a proper fork and shock upgrades if you taking them to track the only one with somewhat decent suspension and racy geometry is the r7 but trident 660 comes with a much better base engine which is harder to upgrade then suspension when it comes to geometry the r7 is indeed more racy but that comes at the cost of comfort plus track warrior would change bars and rearsets anyway so those arent that big of deal.
@justin2956
@justin2956 Месяц назад
​@@beefcolemanhell no. Aprilia reliability and lack of dealerships near me automatically exclude it from the conversation.
@paradiddlesixix7530
@paradiddlesixix7530 Месяц назад
@@patthonsirilim5739 im wondering when triumph are making the hickman springs available for the daytona forks. theyve talked about them since before launch, but i have yet to see them available. that should do the trick. also, the daytona comes with braided lines. just need to get the adjustable brembo master cylinder and i think itll be pretty top notch of these bikes.
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 Месяц назад
Lol. The Yamaha is the light one, the Triumph's the powerful one, & the Suzuki's the fat one. Should have said the Suzuki is the torquey one but a nice review overall. Anyway, the GSX8R doesn't excel particularly as the Daytona's engine & the Yamaha's suspension are better, but as an all round everyday street package, it's the best of these three.
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo Месяц назад
The RS660.
@silent_fluo6917
@silent_fluo6917 Месяц назад
No sub 10k bike. The one really missing here is the cbr650r
@yummyhershey5902
@yummyhershey5902 Месяц назад
@@silent_fluo6917CBR650R would probably score similar to the Daytona. 1 more cylinder is nice, but it’s heavier than all of these bikes, and unlike the Suzuki and Yamaha, the suspension damping is not adjustable.
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Месяц назад
I'm waiting to see how they hold up... No way I'm paying 10k otd for these when there is so many better , low mileage, used motorcycles in America.
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo Месяц назад
@ellwoodwolf I mean, if we include used bikes, this comparison is going to need more parameters
@RottenJeeves
@RottenJeeves Месяц назад
Probably wasn't included because it broke down before they could test drive it. I love Aprilia, but they are NOT reliable.
@Zx6rBlue
@Zx6rBlue Месяц назад
Test rode the cbr600rr and the zx6r yesterday. I'm going to put a deposit on a 2024 zx6r ASAP, it was incredible. The engine was so flexible and fun. Supersports aren't dead.
@FelipeDBento
@FelipeDBento Месяц назад
Great video, i will go with the Daytona 660, the other 2 are very underwhelming in my opinion
@robertct06
@robertct06 Месяц назад
That Suzuki with a tune goes to 83 hp. Kind of want to see this again with all bikes tuned lol
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Месяц назад
CW dyno reads low on everything. That is, compared to all the other dynos I've seen. Max so far is 90hp at the wheel, 65 ft-lb with all restrictions dealt with.
@wlt3585
@wlt3585 27 дней назад
Approaches closer to 90 hp actually. It really opens up
@MrB590
@MrB590 26 дней назад
My 2009 suzuki gsx650f has 85hp our the factory
@gaurangpote8111
@gaurangpote8111 28 дней назад
would have loved to see a CBR650r in there as well
@PalataoArmy
@PalataoArmy 13 дней назад
It's unfair, cbr650r gonna be sure winner
@countryjoe3551
@countryjoe3551 День назад
@@PalataoArmy 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@andrewleaman5437
@andrewleaman5437 Месяц назад
Really loving thay Suzuki engine in my v strom
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury Месяц назад
V-Strom sucks dude.
@yuriteixeira5816
@yuriteixeira5816 Месяц назад
​@@LeeTillburyprobably the only guy with that opinion lmao
@Jam-hj1ht
@Jam-hj1ht Месяц назад
@@LeeTillbury Yeah that's a pretty bad take. The new V-strom is a really fun bike lol
@LSB44446
@LSB44446 Месяц назад
@@LeeTillbury1000's suck
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury Месяц назад
​@@LSB44446Do they? Why pray tell?
@SP_Cbr
@SP_Cbr Месяц назад
Honda CBR650R for me
@blakeconner7493
@blakeconner7493 Месяц назад
We really wanted that for this test, but couldn't get a current bike from Honda
@GeorgiaGrowGuy
@GeorgiaGrowGuy Месяц назад
You can get the front resprung for your weight on any fixed fork. If that was the only complaint, i would get the Triumph and get the dealer to install heavier springs. Now you are the king of the pretend sport bikes!
@southyboy576
@southyboy576 Месяц назад
This review has the most "yeahs" I've ever heard sounds like something out of Nemo with the seagulls 😂 "mine mine mine"
@peterk1410
@peterk1410 9 дней назад
No Honda included ? Yes there are a few others missing as well .
@PahaLukki
@PahaLukki 13 дней назад
I just like how the Daytona 660 looks and sounds the most. But I'd probably go for the suzuki. I'm not a fan of leaning over too much, but some fairings would be nice.
@jonobester5817
@jonobester5817 Месяц назад
He y'all, I should probably stick with what has been the perfect bike for this returning 70yr old, after 50 years, a '98 Ninja 500. BUT, I have my heart set on the Triumph Daytona. The 660. The 675's are beautiful but likely too much bike for moi. Could you PLEASE do a video of you riding the new 660, aggressively? And how to avoid pulling an accidental wheelie?
@tunctoker856
@tunctoker856 Месяц назад
i fell in love with the triple engine years ago and the crush didn't go away. so triple for me any day but that suspension is indeed a deal breaker... i guess i gotta try em...
@fizzyridertoo
@fizzyridertoo 22 дня назад
Get a revalve and it'll be fine. No biggie.
@Andrei_K1G1K
@Andrei_K1G1K Месяц назад
Having said that, put a Gixxer or Honda or whatever fully adjustable fork and a good shock, the horsepower is the most difficult thing to get. (If you really want a good canyon carver)
@Snippydust
@Snippydust Месяц назад
I think my ‘18 triumph street triple that was ~9k is the perfect street bike for me
@theoperring4130
@theoperring4130 Месяц назад
My 2011 feels way cooler than these. And faster. Asides from the suspension
@ulfjonsson22
@ulfjonsson22 Месяц назад
​@@theoperring4130 Agree, I also ride a 2011 675R with sorted suspension so I'm not too impressed with these bikes...
@BS32768
@BS32768 Месяц назад
Interesting that the triumph got dinged for soft suspension - the street and speed triples are always known for their super stiff suspension even on the lower settings.
@ThomasHarden
@ThomasHarden Месяц назад
This video is Suzuki propaganda. As a Daytona 660 owner (160lbs) I can tell you that it’s still stiff af on the lowest setting. Besides that, none of those other two have near the top end. It is def “scary fast” in terms of acceleration. The Daytona will keep up with a ZX6-R until the 660 tops out and has a much higher top speed than the others mentioned in this video. The Triumph kicks ass no doubt!!
@justin2956
@justin2956 Месяц назад
​@@ThomasHardenI agree with you. It definitely feels like Suzuki is astroturfing through all the RU-vidrs to promote the 8r. I tried em all and went with the Daytona and been very happy I did. I'd rather have a suspension set up for the street. I'm not tracking it and I (like 99.9% of Americans) don't live near California canyons. The bike that does well in that setting is irrelevant to me.
@paradiddlesixix7530
@paradiddlesixix7530 Месяц назад
@@ThomasHarden yeah that first sentence was kinda in the back of my mind the whole time watching this. ive heard completely different opinions about the brakes and suspension from some podcast reviews. if you look at the guy on the triumph, he looks like he kinda disagrees with almost everything being said
@sleeper.simulant7327
@sleeper.simulant7327 27 дней назад
The engine in the Daytona 660 is incredible for the class, and in terms of acceleration punches way above its weight class. Acceleration wise 0-200 kmh the Triumph hits in 12 seconds flat. To put into perspective, the Yamaha MT09 does it 0-200 kmh 11.8 and a ZX6R does it in 11.2… It’s only .2 seconds slower then the MT09 and only .8 seconds slower then a ZX6R. To out into perspective a Yamaha R7 0-200 kmh is 16 seconds, and it’s in the same class.
@anxietydisorders5917
@anxietydisorders5917 3 дня назад
@@ThomasHarden bro even Yammie Noob prise the suzuki and after 4 month he said is mid, they are all paid reviews.
@fauveride
@fauveride Месяц назад
What a colorful review!
@mohammadfirdaus4408
@mohammadfirdaus4408 Месяц назад
Well done. Very comprehensive review. 👍
@Swift_Suzu
@Swift_Suzu 5 дней назад
SUZUKI GSX 8R !!!
@TheFatBeaRr
@TheFatBeaRr Месяц назад
Isn't Daytona producing 93.8 bhp ??? 🤔
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 Месяц назад
Both numbers are correct. It's claimed crank bhp compared to rear wheel bhp.
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Месяц назад
Only in your dreams.
@paradiddlesixix7530
@paradiddlesixix7530 Месяц назад
@@ellwoodwolf 85 aint that far off of the claimed. pretty sure anyone looking to tune their can easily get 93.8
@theguitarhero898
@theguitarhero898 Месяц назад
Really cool that Timothée Chalamet could make it out there to test these bikes.
@CWjustindawes
@CWjustindawes Месяц назад
haha! Wow. How did I never notice that?!
@CrunchDramaNetwork
@CrunchDramaNetwork 21 день назад
I'd take anyone of those!
@onaimpulse6346
@onaimpulse6346 Месяц назад
Will you be putting the dyno test for the Daytona up as a separate video?
@blakeconner7493
@blakeconner7493 Месяц назад
Coming ASAP
@ruchili8194
@ruchili8194 Месяц назад
The Suzuki might be the best performance among the 3 but its styling to me is a deal breaker--IT IS NOT A SPORT BIKE!!😂😂
@wetland3010
@wetland3010 Месяц назад
So what. It still looks good and is bloody comfortable. All 3 go well enough.
@rsq72
@rsq72 Месяц назад
Cbr650r.
@hlpang1075
@hlpang1075 Месяц назад
Why don’t they do vtwins instead of parallel twins? That would add a lot of character
@AFJDM
@AFJDM Месяц назад
Agreed, but those are more expensive to manufacturer and package into bikes. It's often why you see those on more high-end bikes, whereas these are supposed to be more affordable.
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Месяц назад
Profit margin from being able to fit it into more styles of motorcycles
@josephnaz1086
@josephnaz1086 Месяц назад
Because of Euro5
@alphajed7700
@alphajed7700 Месяц назад
I wish it too, especially on the Suzuki, but here's the consideration. V-twins are two block heads, it makes more time consuming and expensive to maintain, and it also creates more heat from the back.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Месяц назад
90° Vtwin: 270° firing interval parallel twin with 270 crank: 270° firing interval Where's this character you're referring to?
@JD2ndcity
@JD2ndcity Месяц назад
Aprilia.
@TheIslandExpat
@TheIslandExpat Месяц назад
Aprilia's look cool, but they're junkers.
@9.5to1
@9.5to1 Месяц назад
Probably not 10k
@mencibenci
@mencibenci Месяц назад
an rs660 is more than 10k, plus it’ll sit in the shop half the time.
@TheIslandExpat
@TheIslandExpat Месяц назад
@@mencibenci I've never owned a Triumph. I rarely saw any of them on the road, though. That must be the reason.
@sebastian8294
@sebastian8294 Месяц назад
@@mencibencithat’s trash! There is a big paper test over 50000milies Aprilia 660. zero point zero issues after 3 years
@aaronferguson9328
@aaronferguson9328 24 дня назад
wheres kawa
@bibhabmohapatra8548
@bibhabmohapatra8548 4 дня назад
Suzuki is like Toyota in bike brands. Suzuki bikes are good to ride, lasts long and easy to maintain but they are highly ignorant to the updates.
@garrysimmons111
@garrysimmons111 Месяц назад
I have to say that I'm disappointed in how the Triumph faired. I would have thought the Daytona version (over the Trident) would have come with better suspension and brakes.
@paradiddlesixix7530
@paradiddlesixix7530 Месяц назад
theyre offering different springs for more sport and track riders, just havent seen them available yet from triumph or hickman racing. looking forward to seeing how it rides with those.
@fizzyridertoo
@fizzyridertoo 22 дня назад
You need to forget the idea that the Daytona has to be the cutting edge of sports bikes. The last one might have been but none of it's predecessors were. You need to look at what the new Daytona actually is, rather than what you want it to be. If Triumph had gone for the cutting edge bike you wanted then you would be paying another $3 or 4K on top of the price. Spend 1K on the new bike and you would have something pretty special and maybe closer to what you want. PHR will be releasing a race kit for it soon so that might help. The PHR Daytona currently running in the Sportsbike category in BSB is a race winner already.
@jonobester5817
@jonobester5817 Месяц назад
Isn't there a Kawasaki in this class??
@TH36UN
@TH36UN 25 дней назад
Ninja 650
@anxietydisorders5917
@anxietydisorders5917 3 дня назад
"daytona is the most street oriented" bru the fucking suzuki is so upright like a naked
@jan180
@jan180 Месяц назад
❤ Suzuki
@A1621994S
@A1621994S 7 дней назад
I don’t even wanna watch the video to know Suzuki is the winner.
@theeb1800
@theeb1800 Месяц назад
I am not sure that Suzuki is experiencing a media awakening or that it has designed a wonderful bike. There is almost a consensus on the superiority of the bike in general in RU-vid reviews.
@humandroid53
@humandroid53 Месяц назад
I saw a review that put the Suzuki bottom because of its soft suspension and unwillingness to rev out. Most tests favour the Suzuki though. Surprised they didn't hot it up a bit for R version.
@jameschiyinwan
@jameschiyinwan Месяц назад
What about CBR650R? Why was this not included in the comparison?
@CWjustindawes
@CWjustindawes Месяц назад
Honda did not have a press unit available as they just announced the 2024 model with the E-clutch this week for the US.
@paradiddlesixix7530
@paradiddlesixix7530 Месяц назад
prolly couldnt find one for sale. i live in a big city, with at least a half dozen honda dealers, and havent seen one available in over 6 months.
@AdmV0rl0n
@AdmV0rl0n 13 дней назад
Motorcycling is just in deep trouble. Its become a luxury item. Rider numbers keep falling. Costs keep rising. These bikes represent a shot at reversing the trend. As it stands, nothing about bikes makes sense. They cost too much. The speed limits and stupid road rules make them license risk or state income - and on the race track very little at the GP or world superbike meshes with the real world. I hope this changes, but I'm not seeing anything work against the state of things.
@nathancrock3030
@nathancrock3030 Месяц назад
Dude on that triumph needs to get his toes up on the pegs and pointed in. He’s going to catch his foot on the ground one day and it isn’t going to be fun for him.
@steveschamp1095
@steveschamp1095 Месяц назад
I guess I am old. I will spend an extra grand and go for an MT 09.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Месяц назад
8R $8439 before any fees at a dealership near me.
@alangolightly9850
@alangolightly9850 Месяц назад
Aprilia RS660!
@shawnpenn
@shawnpenn 2 дня назад
Yamaha should go back to Piano making 😊
@grantrowland1998
@grantrowland1998 14 дней назад
When I have more power and torque with my 2003 800cc honda....
@crashtestgoat
@crashtestgoat Месяц назад
Today on cycleworld we found out which of these bikes is the least lame.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Месяц назад
Makes as much sense as someone shopping for Ferraris and watching Mustang videos.
@moesley12
@moesley12 Месяц назад
Correct me if i am wrong but doenst have the suzuki 80hp?
@freebehindbars8654
@freebehindbars8654 Месяц назад
Dyno, ACTUAL power to the road.
@moesley12
@moesley12 Месяц назад
Ok then i agree 😅
@davebell3684
@davebell3684 Месяц назад
Less power for U.S. market?
@blakeconner7493
@blakeconner7493 Месяц назад
That actual power at the rear wheel on our CW dyno, not the claimed crankshaft HP.
@paulconnell1309
@paulconnell1309 Месяц назад
85bhp at the crank not the wheel.
@Damiv
@Damiv Месяц назад
I’d rather have a ZX4RR.
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Месяц назад
No.
@Damiv
@Damiv Месяц назад
@@ellwoodwolf To each their own. I'll take an inline 4 over parallel twins any day.
@ImAFuckinDevil666
@ImAFuckinDevil666 Месяц назад
@@Damiv Enjoy the high insurance rates lol
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Месяц назад
@@Damiv How about at night?
@Damiv
@Damiv Месяц назад
@@exothermal.sprocket Sure, why not? I don't see why it being dark out would influence my decision at all. I ride in the dark all the time.
@HertyKelly
@HertyKelly 2 дня назад
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@Rabbydabbydoo
@Rabbydabbydoo Месяц назад
My main issue is their looks. They look boring. Almost like gsxf looking. No longer a fully colour co ordinated colourful sports bikes but half faired commuters. Not saying they’re not good or even better than my 97 gsxr but they sure don’t come close in looks. Even the most powerful is 25hp down on an almost 30yr old bike.
@coolaa7
@coolaa7 Месяц назад
Good review!
@paulconnell1309
@paulconnell1309 Месяц назад
Excellent review and the right answer in my view.
@ef1631
@ef1631 15 дней назад
**sporty bikes** not sport bikes
@skinf
@skinf Месяц назад
European regulations suck, these are middle weight sport bikes, but not actually supersport bikes... understandable, but also lame, IMO
@Villani_AV
@Villani_AV Месяц назад
These are great every day bikes for people who only ride on the road, and use their bikes for more than just one dimensional riding
@skinf
@skinf Месяц назад
@@Villani_AV True, these bikes are more versatile, a different niche actually. But it also means that inline 4, 600cc, triple, even the V twin supersports are disappearing. And that really sucks
@mattcrad8605
@mattcrad8605 Месяц назад
​@@skinfthey may be more practical now but less exciting. The tiered liscensing system has encouraged manufacturers to skew the majority of their designs closer to the beginner catagory.
@ehiggins7476
@ehiggins7476 Месяц назад
Kawasaki ZX6R has all you need in a super sport
@ehiggins7476
@ehiggins7476 Месяц назад
Also 99.9% of people who comment on YT can’t come even close to the limit of what the bikes on these video can offer. All they do is look at specs and regurgitate what others say about parts and power numbers yet can’t ride for shit on anything other than straight roads.
@yuriteixeira5816
@yuriteixeira5816 Месяц назад
Yall in the comments like gate keeping way too much lmao
@NalinKhurb
@NalinKhurb 14 дней назад
So many of them haha
@judge831
@judge831 Месяц назад
The Suzuki has the best torque to weight ratio.
@rafaelkleque7318
@rafaelkleque7318 Месяц назад
naked bike with fairings and clipons arent sportbikes :) cbr600rr or zx6r for me If i want a mid range sport tourer bike, my choice is CBR650R or Suzuki :)
@Mr.KH41
@Mr.KH41 Месяц назад
CBR600RR, ZX6R, R6, GSXR600 are supersports. CBR650R, Ninja 650, R7, GSX8R are sportbikes. CBR650F, Versys, Tracer, GSX1000GT are sport touring bikes
@yuriteixeira5816
@yuriteixeira5816 Месяц назад
​@@Mr.KH41versys and tracer are adv bike Ninja 1000sx and fj are sport tourers
@Mr.KH41
@Mr.KH41 Месяц назад
@yuriteixeira5816 you could argue Versys being ADV bike but more road oriented. The Tracer is certainly not an ADV bike
@jellyorwhat3343
@jellyorwhat3343 Месяц назад
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about. Sport bike is about the seating position and not about the engine. On an MT-07 you sit like on a chair on the R7 you’re laying like on a R6.
@rafaelkleque7318
@rafaelkleque7318 Месяц назад
​​@@jellyorwhat3343 have you ever seat on a r6 and r7? Very diferent bikes my friend. Its not only the seat position :) change the seat and put clipons on a naked bike does turn the bike to a supersport
@F3udF1st
@F3udF1st Месяц назад
What's lb ft and lb?
@toethlef8994
@toethlef8994 Месяц назад
Pound feet, pound
@mickromer6199
@mickromer6199 Месяц назад
American equivalent to Newton meters
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Месяц назад
A superior way to measure an abstract force.... It's abstract because once the viewer gets on all ratios will change from what these guys experienced.
@LooxJJ
@LooxJJ Месяц назад
Suzuki surprised us all. It's the best of the bunch.
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Месяц назад
It's pretty comfortable for a fattie like me - only complaint was handlebar angle - elbows in a little, was a little too much for my liking
@IDontKnow-bb6mt
@IDontKnow-bb6mt Месяц назад
Can't believe people continue to praise the expensive and heavy Suzuki. My how times have changed.
@Jam-hj1ht
@Jam-hj1ht Месяц назад
Have you ridden a bike with that engine? It's so good stock. And it picks up a ton of power with a tune as well.
@IDontKnow-bb6mt
@IDontKnow-bb6mt Месяц назад
The engine is not what concerns me, it's the weight. This thing weighs more than my mt10 and is down 60hp.
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Месяц назад
Heavy for modern, not heavy vs older... Bikes have gotten better than what riders use ( or now pay for) do you really think people who shop for these would ever go 185 if they got to ride a supersport???
@AppleJack76
@AppleJack76 Месяц назад
Weight doesn't matter. It wasn't designed to be a track or canyon weapon. It was designed to fit into the city street market, and within a price constraint.
@Jam-hj1ht
@Jam-hj1ht Месяц назад
@@IDontKnow-bb6mt dang the mt10 is not a great bike. My s1krr is lighter and makes more power.
@rtcivic
@rtcivic Месяц назад
ahhh the gay middle weight sports bike. them middle weights used to be fast! wtf happened?
@WojciechKalka
@WojciechKalka Месяц назад
Crap vs crap vs crap .. the winner is ..
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Месяц назад
Go ride your nitrous turbocharged BMW M1000RRRRRRRRR. Why are you here?
@distancejunkiemonkey4491
@distancejunkiemonkey4491 Месяц назад
whoever gets the girl, thats who wins
@enricohagn
@enricohagn Месяц назад
@@distancejunkiemonkey4491chick's depreciation is colossal compared to a bike, though
@Villani_AV
@Villani_AV Месяц назад
So none of them 😂😂😂 (No bikes at all)
@distancejunkiemonkey4491
@distancejunkiemonkey4491 Месяц назад
@@enricohagn who keeps either forever ?
@distancejunkiemonkey4491
@distancejunkiemonkey4491 Месяц назад
@@Villani_AV say u don't ride without saying you don't ride
@enricohagn
@enricohagn Месяц назад
@@distancejunkiemonkey4491 doesn't matter for how long we keep the ride, that with two legs is less fun but more expensive. The ride with the wheels doesn't send us to prison by false allegations 🤷
@captainthruster9484
@captainthruster9484 Месяц назад
Weird how a 00 r6 would stomp these “sport bikes”😂
@mickromer6199
@mickromer6199 Месяц назад
But carbys 🤷
@NicePantsLance
@NicePantsLance Месяц назад
The issue is that it makes all that power in the high rpms. A gen1 Yamaha R6 is BARELY making 40whp/40tq at 6000rpm. The Daytona 660 is making 45whp and over 40lb-ft at 6000rpm! The Daytona makes just under 40lb-ft of torque right under 3000rpm, where the Yamaha R6 would be lucky to put down 20whp/20lb-ft At 10,000rpm, the gen1 R6 is finally putting down just over 80whp/40lb-ft. The Daytona 660 is also making 80whp and over 40lb-ft at 10,000rpm! The Daytona 660 peaks at 85whp@11,350rpm where the gen1 R6 continues on to make around 100whp around 13k rpm. The result is that the Daytona 660 will feel as powerful, if not more powerful, than a stock gen1 R6 up to about 10k rpm. Even more so in the low rpms. For most people just wanting a sport bike for regular street riding, this is plenty! Once that R6 gets going though, it's swifty passing any of these bikes 😂 i still think a Daytona 660 is a better package in the long run
@ellwoodwolf
@ellwoodwolf Месяц назад
Yes, and everyone who wants that, has that.... Different people want different experiences....
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Месяц назад
Wonder how these "sport bikes" would stomp a bunch of 400s 😂 🤪😒
@paulconnell1309
@paulconnell1309 Месяц назад
@@NicePantsLance At 4000 rpm my old Honda CBR500R had more torque and HP than the R6. The R6 is not a comfortable or as friendly a bike for every day riding and more expensive. A track bike, whereas these are everyday riders.
@ThomasHarden
@ThomasHarden Месяц назад
This is straight up Suzuki propaganda. They paid to have this shit made. The Daytona is far superior to anything in its class. It’s not even close. None of these other bikes have near the top end and the suspension on the 660 is actually pretty decent for what it is
@tman736
@tman736 Месяц назад
85hp out of a 800cc bike??? but a GSXR 750 makes 130hp ... thats sad!
@popanimation1
@popanimation1 Месяц назад
It’s kind of like the malaise era of American cars. Big engines and little power due to emissions but these engines are big twin engines. Physics is the reason the big pistons can’t spin so quickly and make such big power as a 750cc inline that has smaller pistons and less weight to throw around in a cylinder bore.
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 Месяц назад
Does it have more torque though?
@MegaKei1
@MegaKei1 Месяц назад
Sure but those 750’s are already highly strung, highly tuned engines. Good as they may be, they’re a little more work to use on the road. These 800s make more torque in a more accessible manner and suit road riding much better.
@enricohagn
@enricohagn Месяц назад
Torque makes the bike move, though. GSX8R 52 lb ft max torque at 6630 rp. GSXR 750 64 lb ft at 11200 rpm.
@dyk-fr4ns
@dyk-fr4ns Месяц назад
You're comparing a parallel twin (2 cylinder) to an Inline 4 cylinder. A 4 cylinder will have more hp but less or about the same torque depending on the CC size. Just like how 600cc have more power than 650cc, 600 is 4 cylinder and 650 is 2 cylinder
@Tank_Taps
@Tank_Taps Месяц назад
"sport bikes".
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket Месяц назад
You'd prefer to call them what? Cruiser? Scrambler? Cafe Racer? Dual Sport? ADV?
@Tank_Taps
@Tank_Taps Месяц назад
@@exothermal.sprocket commuters considering the suspension setup/options, ergos, fuel efficiency, and power delivery
@gigi9467
@gigi9467 Месяц назад
I been riding since 2003. I remember when a sportbije was wayyyyyy different than these pos twins that sound like shit and are slow but more inportantly sound like shit lol yes my generation is the one that made the insurance be so high sorry but not sorry
@mickromer6199
@mickromer6199 Месяц назад
Gotta love a tRRRiple 🫠
@6844376
@6844376 Месяц назад
Just because they are adding a second brake rotor a sport bike does not make.. stop playing!
@TheJoker-gg8hc
@TheJoker-gg8hc Месяц назад
None of these are 10,000 dollar bikes. They're at least 11,000 after taxes and fees and maybe even a little more. Then once you've done that, now you have to get rid of the awful intakes and exhausts and replace them with PROPER equipment and then sprnd even more fucking money tuning the bike to get it to what SHOULD'VE been there at delivery. In short, these bikes are all disgusting wastes of the universes potential, and your wallet, and time. "Emissions" and "noise" regulations have destroyed our vehicles and their potential. Now we're left with dogshit underpowered garbage.
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