Three more countries recognize Palestinian statehood - what happens next? | DW Analysis 

It is not s human right.

terrorist rights are however not rights

The discussion in this war is absurd. First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.

islam gave to mankind an ideal code of human rights fourteen centuries ago......they have sharia law not Universal Human Rights.

@@geoms6263 Don't try to falsehood about Islam. Even who follows Islam they protect from any kind of sin. Even from HIV.

No, aren't you all against Israel

True, it’s a seller’s market

Tell that to the Palestinians.

Tell that to Hamas…

Where’s Kfir???!?

Previous self determinated government was Hamas

​​@@jorgeanderson9032 they won through elections

Erm, what happened in November 1947? 🤔

@@Lfgnyc The first two-state solution was rejected.

@@Blodhelm Wrong NetanHitler on record said he scuttled Oslo Pact.

I want my own country too then, it’s my right apparently

@@datboib3432 Freedom is always fought for never given. We see the fruits. Israel had nothing to make it state.when it was recognized by newly formed and west dominated UN. But palastine have evrything to make them state.

@@Allahiswiththeoppressed Then why are people trying to GIVE Palestinians a state saying it is a right?

@@Allahiswiththeoppressed israel has been having to fight for their freedom also. Everybody with half a brain wants a two-state solution , except for the extremes on BOTH sides. The average Palestinian person just wants to live in peace and have a home & the average Israeli just wants to live in peace and not deal with stuff like this every 10 years or so.

hows that working out for the Kurds?

Germany donates more money to Gaza than Spain , Ireland,and norway combined, 250 million euros,, you heard about putting your money where your mouth is.

True

👍​@@AnthonyGarcia-sy3yk

Cut us some slack, we have a history you know

@@JG-xi4tuyou would think that history would make them more vigilant of crimes against humanity… and genocide itself. It’s almost as if they didn’t learn from their mistakes.

The East Bank is in Jordan, doofus.

East bank- You mean east of Jordan river which is Jordan. You are right all palastinian/arab in gaza and Judea/Samaria should go to the nation of Jordan.

The EU is part of the apartheid, and the Israelis are European settlers. Fact!

West Bank you mean.

@user-pt6vg7jf6bthat would be great. Europe would a better and prosperous continent with Russia as a friend not a foe

The two-state solution is dead. Palestinians and Hamas are the same.

how about Israel govt? Israel govt are/were doing something much worse than Ka Mass and no consequence/justice to them?

@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7misrael actually has a functioning government with a balance of powers. Hamas is literally just a militant group that seized power almost 20 years ago & refuses to hold elections.

@@kenho-wr5ul2rh7m Palestinians people are innocent, right? Ask for food, medical supply and fire rockets for decades?

@@bachhongtran Israel does not have fire rocket? US does not have fire rocket? Uk does not have fire rocket? Germany does not have fire rocket?

Did you tell that to Russia?

@@bigboyindhouse8142 Hamas, Hezbollah, and others exist with the active support of the population. You can't really say they aren't tied. I am against military action against civilians, but those civilians need to make sure they are not getting involved through active or passive support. There are few real innocents among the Palestinians. To be fair, Gaza and the west bank were pretty much left alone for well over a decade. Any hardship there falls squarely on the head of their governments. Previously things were solved with the odd small scale retaliation. They crossed a line on Oct 7. And that was all on their own. They can end this at any time by capitulating and turning themselves in.

hamas started a war on oct 7. hamas says they will do oct 7 over and over again. this could end today if hamas released the hostages and surrendered. blame hamas.

The government that started a war they couldn't win and is destroying their people so their leader can live it up in Qatar with more cash meant to help with the devastation.

And Hamas's rise to power was corrupt and it has not held elections.

No, it isn't. Palestine, aka Judea, is a geographic region. That's it. Labelling someone Palestinian means about as much as labelling someone European.

@@clanpsi I suppose you prefer prisoners

@@clanpsi Ok, maybe you prefer it this way. Palestine should be a country. But the overwhelming majority of it was "given" -aka, stolen from the Palestinians to Israel. So you're right. It's not a state. It should be a country.

Was about to say the same...absorb

Watch France24 instead, much less slant. Germany's history means their state news cannot do balanced coverage on this issue.

But it's correct. They just rewarded terrorism, rioting and violence.

Same.

It's like saying freeing an abuse victim after they finally fought back is rewarding agression

Shocking in how biased he was in his interview style

@@johns1600 Is Phil Gayle, the DW interviewer, in the surreptitious pay of the German establishment? This is possibly the worst DW effort at unbiased journalism I have ever watched. For the record he has a BSc. in sports science, and a MA in creative writing. Maybe that explains his demeanour/approach/attitude; one of more or less permanent disdain, which I think he mistakes for edginess.

The discussion in this war is absurd. First. Israel acted selflessly to live in peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. It was more than a decade ago when Israel itself relocated thousands of individuals living in Gaza with lethal force from their homes to follow the agreement, which obligated the Palestinians in return to stop any kind of aggression towards Israel. The Palestinians had the chance to build a safe, functional, and prosperous livelihood. But the first thing the Palestinians did in return was to elect a government that enshrined the goal of destroying Israel in their constitution. The elected government followed through with its promise. Since its founding, thousands of rockets have flown into Israel. Dozens of civilians died in terrorist attacks. Millions of aid funds - intended for civilian purpose - were misused to build rockets, tunnels, and other nonsense. The crimes committed on October 7th like raping women, killing children, or kidnapping a baby, was Humus has been doing for years. Secondly. Israel behaved more humanely in this conflict than any other conceivable party in any imaginable conflict. It allowed Palestinians to work in Israel, receive medical care or even migrate into their country. During war, they warn civilians where their military is operating. They admit collateral damage and apologize for it. They saved Sinwar’s life giving him a lethal brain surgery. They treated the daughter of Haniyyas daughter for her complex disease in Israel. While Humus was building rockets and tunnels with all the foreign aid, Israel supplied their civilians with free water and electricity. The situation is clear. In no other conflict the responsibility for the suffering has been so one sided and clear - in no other conflict have the perpetrators been held accountable so weakly. People with voice and power who claim to reject war have the duty to unequivocally name the culprit of this war and do everything in their power to eliminate them. Everything else is responsibility for the resulting suffering and will extend it.

@@jankaufmann4305 you again? You keep copy pasting your ideological nonsense sense everywhere smh

@@francotheafrican7550 every word in his comment is true

Hamas is a religious far-right organization. You are making the mistake.

​@@olafsigursons Armed resistance against brutal occupation is not terrorism. Nelson Mandela did the same and he was called terrorist by the west.

The payments to the allies for WW2 were completed about 20 years ago. That's really done now.

@@olafsigursons While Israel cabinet is a compassionate kumbaya club... :D

@@mstrehena5535Gaza wasn’t occupied on Oct 6th

No. It's annexation.

Terrorism should not exist tho

@@greenwave819 exactly. So denying Palestine shouldn't exist 👍✌️

we recognize Palestine as ancient roman province

Palestine exists as it always has. There's a country called Israel in Palestine and a bit of Lebanon too.

Just like China.

The difference is the "within its borders" part eh? palestine is not part of isreal

Norway is already on our way to de facto cede part of the country to Sápmi, so way ahead of ya.

Palestinians are not an ethnic minority in Isrl amigo. They are actually the majority and growing. Not even counting the millions kicked out and not allowed to come back.

Palestinians are not just an ethnic minority group. Palestinians are historicly the owners of the lands of Palestina.(today's israel)

Palastinians don't want a state, they want the whole piece.

Hamas charter outright denies the right for israel to exist. Israel (and everyone else, for that matter) is for two-state solution. But the government of that state can’t be bent on the destruction of the other. Hence why israel is for two state solution, just not under hamas rule.

@@datboib3432 and the PA? Because Israel is the one that was annexing the West Bank, which is the PA, not Hamas, and that was going on decades before Hamas ever existed.

Palestine was never a country, Palestinians are not a nation, they are Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian origin immigrants in Israel.

@@hrvojeorsolic1058 shhhh that doesn't fit the occupier/occupied narrative

They live in apartheid due to Humus - not Israel. Israel ranks the highest on human rights indexes. Palestine in the lowest.

@@jankaufmann4305 yeah khummus in west bank too? fking hasbara

The biggest bank in Israel is owned by a Palestinian. There are Palestinians in the Knesset and in the Supreme Court. Compare that to the position of Palestinians in Lebanon…

​@@jankaufmann4305Apartheid existed long before Hamas became a thing so quit spreading misinformation.

I don't know what you mean by that. Israel ranks the highest percentage on human right indexes. Palestine in the lowest. If there i something as Apartheid it exists in Palestine since Humus deny their citizines basic human rights.

There was no "nation" of Israel before either. You need a country to be a nation and going back 5,000-10,000 years in history doesn't apply in international law.

It's not about ethnicity. Are borders of other sovereign countries based on ethnicity?

Palestinians are Canaanites

Recognizing Palestine will only help Taiwans cause.

No one is supporting Hamas. Both Israel and Hamas have been using the Palestinians as political tools. Palestinians have a right to exist. They deserve their own place just as Israel deserves theirs. It can be done without Hamas being part of it and without Israels boot on the innocents throats.

Why did they vote in the terrorist group Hamas to rule them? They Palestinians should be fighting Hamas!

Fighting for freedom is targeting political or military target. To be oppressed doesn't give you the tight to commit atrocities. To be oppressed doesn't give you the right to be religious far-right.

❤

Free falastin

​@@olafsigursons.. 1. and the U.S does it without being oppressed !😒 2. Everyone has a right to their religious beliefs, historical religious wars are a given worldwide (I'm not saying I agree )

Tell a lie often enough and it becomes Israel.

They both are genocidal states.

​@@schlafcomandante5662LOL oh the old Hebrew God in the sky is going to be real mad at you.

Germany is not famous for being on the right side of history...

Ofc, they are always on the side of Genocide and war

How do you mean this?

@@Keepthepeacesharethelove 'Is recognizing Palestine a reward for terrorism?' how would you read this in the light of the latest news, history and human rights? For me it's an attempt to re-define morale through isolating viewpoints while sacrificing modern society's core values.

Thank you for adding the disclaimer that your comment was an insult to logical thought. I fully agree.

Israel left gaza in 2005 but had to return after oct 7 2024.

No, it doesn't have to be that.

Israel doesn't accept Palestinians right to exist. Goes both waysm

They should do also with Ukraine ! Negotiations!

Germany wants, what US of A wants.

If Ukrainians negotiate with Russia, Russia will just take a break and learn from its past mistakes and then invade whatever's left of Ukraine a few years down the road. The war in Ukraine would immediately end if Russia left.

Germany is America's proxy state after all

yes

Europe needs immigrants. Populationbis declining.

If they recognized earlier this Will not happened at first place

They can no longer use the recognition of Palestine as a carrot to get the Palestinians to release hostages. It is emboldening Hamas and making them think that they can get away with more things.

By what, kowtowing to the antisemitic right wing in Germany???

PA was offered huge investments (jobs, trade, factories, loans, ...) to participate in Abraham Accords. PA tuyrned it down!

Balls of steel indeed. Imagine the pressure being put on them.

Breakaway? You may want to spend some time researching how the Israeli state was formed…

You’re so big! You can use buzzwords!

I'm going to say yes it is

Indeed

Israel actually exists. There’s never been a “Palestine.”

Yes! Open your borders!

You are proud to support a religious far-right state? Well, why I am no surprised.

You guys are at the right side of the history!

@@olafsigursons I dont support the religious far-right state of Israel.

Norwegians are pretty based, they helped A LOT in colombia in the peace process in 2016, top notch diplomats.

And I'm proud of being Spanish and proud of my government. 🇪🇦

So how do you account for the fact that Hamas came to power on the back of an 80% popular vote?

@@KIA-MIA-POW But Hamas is Gaza, not the West Bank, and they have not had elections since 2006. Unless Palestine acts like a state, Israel can NEVER allow them to continue their one-sided sob story and parasitic status

@@KIA-MIA-POW I did not know that.

​@@KIA-MIA-POW How do you account for years, Netanyahu allowed the Qatari government to send millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip - money that helped prop up the Hamas government? Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them. Israel empowered Hamas.

@shadowwolfkano ...there are none so blind as those that can not see !

Israel left gaza in 2005 but had to return after oct 7 2024.

Thank goodness we have an example to follow. Big Love from a level-headed American. Free Palestine.

Hey don't forget Spain! Vale!

Yeah, I remember when we recognised Ismail Haniye as leader of the Palestinian government. Cool asf

Fluk islamists

Could end tomorrow? The world has just woken up yo the Palestine cause ISRL has lost a whole new generation.

Marriage between different religions is not recognized in Isrl.

Yes it is.

@@jaybee9269 Read Internation Law, you're wrong. Some acts may qualify as war crimes (hostages, etc.) but otherwise it's a legal struggle against an occupier.

@@BOBK-jf4qx >> Israelis are not occupiers; there’s never been a state of “Palestine.” Judea and Samaria (aka the West Bank) were won from Jordan in a defensive war. The same with the Golan Heights. I feel bad for the Palestinian Arabs but no worse than I feel for the Kurds or the Rohingya peoples. Of course, Israel tried to give Gaza back to Egypt in 1979 but they wouldn’t take it. But you support The Current Thing.

​@@jaybee9269143 countries recognized Palestinians existence, so ur permission is not needed I think

@@joexavier4070 >> Not my permission, just logic. Oh, and reality!

Who has embassies in Palestine?

From murderous ignorance! Yes!

genocide accusation is false. gaza population is 2 million. assume 40 thousand palestinians dead (a high estimate). 40 thousand/ 2million means 2% of gaza population dead due to war. Don't forget war started by hamas on oct 7.

Islam has illegally occupied a lot of places by force

Palestine is not part of Isreal... what is wrong with you people...

@Salara2130 it just shows that many Israelis already think that the Palestinian territories belong to Israel like Catalonia belongs to Spain. Not surprising

Basques and Catalonians have full citizenship rights. Isrl should just give the Palestinians full citizenship rights Palestinians already outnumber Israelis by a million.

So Iran, Hezbollah, and Syrian groups all perched on the border is unrelated? Wake up

It's their true colors..it's hard to conceal afterall

Yes, they did play the victim for like 20 years, during which time they slowly encroached on Palestinian lands on the West Bank and closed off Gaza like an open-air prison. Apparently, that is not enough for them. So Hamas "causing a scene" was what they had wanted all these years, and they literally pushed for Hamas to cause a scene. They might even have purposefully facilitated the Hamas attack (by ignoring relevant intelligence and pulling off border guards). After that, they had been using the Oct 7 event to cover for all the atrocities they committed. From the perspective of the Palestinians, who have suffered systematic oppression by the Israeli apartheid regime for 70 years, their suffering hardly gets any mainstream reports and will never receive substantial international support. So if they truly want freedom, they cannot rely on Israel. They cannot rely on the Palestinian authority in the West Bank, who are basically controlled by Israel. They cannot rely on the international society, which largely ignored their plight. What choice do they have other than supporting Hamas? At least this time it worked.

you mean land lost due to defensive wars.

Rape is not resistance

No, invading a nation, you have have been preaching the death of since it conception, teaching hatred in schools, creating the myths of death, destroying their own people in horrific attacks, using human shields and murdering on the streets of democracies across the world, is TERRORISM.. What freedom do you envisage for those corrupted, indoctrinated and wanting death more than life?

@@HundkatzeFisch Israelis did plenty of those

@@cyclomb in your dreams

@@HundkatzeFisch No it's in articles