Actually, he confuses the sound made by the false vocal cords with the subharmonic technique - the sounds made by the false vocal cords are kinda different and less harmonic and less robotic and not as powerful as subharmonic sounds, and, subharmonics are in fact a set of vocal techniques that push the chest voice to its absolute lowest by creating that drill-like robotic sound, and, when I do subharmonics I can feel that the false vocal cords aren’t involved, as it feels very different when using the false vocal cords, which is a feeling that’s more similar to the feeling one gets when using vocal fry, and, it sounds like both the throat bass and the slizzer bass are made the same way, and only the placement is different, so, with slizzer bass the placement seems more forward and its projection seems to be towards a spot that is closer to the upper part of the mouth, whereas throat bass has a placement that is more in the back of the throat or closer to the back of the throat and at a slightly lower spot, so both seem to have the epiglottis involved, not really the false vocal cords, which are mostly used in dm growling and metal screaming etc and have very different feeling and sound… (When I hear ppl doing the regular throat bass, most of the times they use the subharmonic technique, not really the false vocal cords throat clearing sound, so I guess there are two types of throat bass, and most of the times, ppl switch to the subharmonic throat bass without realizing, as it’s naturally easier to make the subharmonic sounds!)
Re honey, it’s not necessary and it’s not good for ppl, just as all other animal products - one should use maple syrup or agave syrup or rice syrup with lemon water / lemonade instead, or just water or lemonade! (Plant-based products are always the best for one’s vocal cords and hth and teeth etc - I am plant-based and can sing all day using subharmonics, without losing my voice, and I haven’t gotten any new cavities after going plant-based, plus I never get a cold or the flu etc!)
i have no clue how you dont have thousands of subs by now, your tutorials are so thought through and helped me get alot of sounds. keep up the good work!
Dude, you are literally one of the few people I've seen that presicely explained the mechanics and anatomy behind it! As one of the few people who are crazy about subharmonics, anatomy and physics of the sound behind it! Sad to see people say like I'm a musician I can tell that he uses subs or throat bass when talking about someone singing low in chest...
I’m one of the ppl who clears my throat with my epiglottis - so I’ve been struggling to learn the throat bass for a while. This tutorial (not sure if it’s worked yet but it’s sounding better already) actually makes sense to me so thanks so much for taking time to make it 😁😋
If you've learnt Throat Bass, you can try this to learn Vibration Bass. Hold the Jayton voice (it's pretty much the voice you would use if you were pushing something really heavy) and slowly transition into Throat Bass. You'll notice that before you actually get to Throat Bass, you get an unclean crackle. Try stablizing that position and holding that crackle. Then try transitioning from that crackle to Throat Bass and if you manage to hit an extremely precise position somewhere in the middle of this crackle and Throat Bass, you'll get Vibration Bass. After that, just practice holding it for a while and getting it consistent. This crackle and especially Vibration Bass can hurt even more than Throat Bass by the way, so don't practice it for too long at once.
Great tutorial, and i now understand so when i was learn it i go to wrong direction , and learn kind a Slizzer bass, but after it became Chest bass😆 And when i still want to learn throat bass i go to deep and find Vibration bass 😆so now i can a lot of different basses pretty good, but thorat bass is so weak
@@poopclanproductions2022 Same here. It's easy to slip into vibration when you are doing throat bass. For me throat bass is harder to learn and harder to control.
I have like 7 years doing beatbox and i never achive throat bass, tbh its hard for some people but 2 years ago i practiced and i could learn it, but this is and advice for people who doesn't have that facility, just practice a lot and be carefull with your throat, i could do it clean after 3 months
I've been trying to learn throat bass since I was 10 years old, I am 24 now and I still can't do it...I only get a kind of slizzer bass and it just hurts so bad everytime I would try...weird cos my voice is quite deep naturally but I think my voice is just really sensitive! Sick tutorial though bro imma check out your other stuff
Nobody explains it like you do man. I have never seen a beatboxer explain sounds to an atomical level. Edit: Also thanks for pointing out that I was doing the slizzer bass.
Man great video, the hardest part I find really for being motivated to try and learn this bass, is as a complete beginner, it becomes uncomfortable within less than a min of even just trying to isolate the vibration part and extending, which makes attempting to learn this technique such a difficult slow process.
This is a great video, it was very important to explain that there is a slizzer bass that sounds similar but is something else. This at least in theory answers my questions. But there are still other important questions, like why slizzer bass is true folds + epiglottis, and a "vocalized chest bass" is also kind of true folds + epiglottis, but they sound very different. And how to make sure that the throat bass is a subharmonic and not the fundamental tone, because in the case of the chest bass, when you add voice to it, the subharmonic is not added, the sound just gets louder.
The epiglottis is a big thing, so it can vibrate at very low frequencies (like an octave and a fifth or two octaves below the true folds for the vocalized chest bass), but its also possible to get it to vibrate at higher frequencies. So when doing slizzer bass, the epiglottis vibrates either a fifth above the true folds (creating the 1st subharmonic) or one octave below the true folds (not creating any subharmonics but it still sounds a lot like it does so no one really cares all too much).
im afraid i dont have a very good undertsanding of inward bass in im not very good at it myself, but perhaps i should collab with other beatboxers to make it happen!!
I dont have Insta so I'm asking here, could I get you on discord for help with hard bass? I just want to know I'm on the right path and doing the correct thing, so I dont damage my throat for nothing. You are the most in depth teacher in this scene and I've been around since 2014, keep it up.
Where is the subharmonics video? Hope can come back to the research soon if it was something you didn’t quite understand yet that made you not publish yet
Hell yeah, amazingly detailed tutorial!! ❤ Do you have any tips for practicing switching between throat bass to your regular voice? That sound is so awesome!!!
@@MazeFrogBeatbox Nog tutorials in de planning staan al? Ben echt goed aan het gaan op je video's zo ver! Vooral deze heeft me echt veel geholpen om throat bass voor elkaar te krijgen!
@@DieEneGuyJeWeetWelWelke Ik ben super blij om dat te horen! Ik ben een nu een soort van grote mega whale whistle tutorial/ guide aan het maken, het gaat nu nog een beetje langzaam maar het wordt sick! STAY TUNED 🙏!!
Im doing hard videos right now its hard to upload once a week, but there are more video to come! Also im gonna be leaving to another country for roughly 3 weeks so i wont be able to take all my equiment with me, im working on a big big video which i hope i will be able to finish writing and filming before i leave. I'm doing by best!!! (im not really but lets pretend i am)
@@MazeFrogBeatbox What kind of big big video a tutorial or you are gonna release your track 😊. BTW from how many years you have been beaboxing , I'm on my way to third year . On this channel will you gonna upload tutorials only or shorts and your routines too , do you want to make beatbox as your career. Do you know Dilip beatboxer from India I live in the same city with him . Love ♡ u bro .
@@home7914 I'm also on my way to my 3rd year, and I love Dilip he is one of my biggest inspirations! Im working on a big guide to whale whistles, in which i am gonna explain how most whale whistles work, the mechanics, the logic, and how to use some knowledge and theory to identify them, undertsand them., and learn them! I'm planning on also uploading more artistic content on here, like beatboc tracks with hopefully some interesting visuals???? Idk, Im definetily gonna make shorts, like little tutorial shorts or just some entertaining beatbox info shorts! There is lots to come im sure!
@@MazeFrogBeatbox your tutorials are very detailed and didn't need any other tutorial after yours . You are a nice guy I'm 17 brother and you ? Is your insta is from the same name as your youtube channel . Bro you see in all of your videos I will meet you in your comment sections and gonna meet you some day , you are a nice guy . My name is abhi . 👋
Eeeyy sick tutorial bro, I can do the sound but definitely heard some cool stuff and will use them! Another cool trick with the throat bass is what B-art does against D Low in 2019 GBB - "Grrran grrraan grrran" (with the rolled R ). It is naasty! Cheers and good luck to all beginners!
great video! as someone who kind of studies this, i think your explination is pretty on point. i also think, that chestbassfamily (including slizzerbass) is made with the epiglottis, but i think there is no real "proof" yet, right? if so, please tell me, i'd really like to see chestbass in a videolaryngoscopy or something. last lil thing: when talking about the glottis, we mostly refer to the vocal folds + the space inbetween them. if another part of your body emulates this function - like the false folds for example - you can also call that pseudoglottis.
I shoved my finger down my throat and the epiglottis seems to be vibrating and also there is a laryngoscopy vifeo somewhere on RU-vid of tom thum beatboxing and somewhere in there he does a raw chest bass for a split second
@@MazeFrogBeatbox merci and thanks for the answer! damn ok, im gonna take your word for it - must have been unpleasant, and ill also check out the tom thum video again. enter the larynx is such an insightful series, i just wish there would be something similar with more emphasis on isolated sounds btw. keep up the good work, i think you make great tutorials! also had the same take at the d-koy whistle, but i didnt stay on it long enough and ended up not learning it. really glad you did because now at it again - luv
I cannot last my inward bass for more than 6- 7 sec, am running out of breath.. am I doing something wrong, or do I need to practice more.....PLEASE HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe try using less air and what may also help is doing an impression of the "stitch voice" (from lilo and stitch) and then keeping that throat position and then doing inward bass. That way its easier to use the air more efficiently
@@MazeFrogBeatbox i tried using less air, but the sound didnt come out, it was too low, can i text you on instagram, maybe i can send you voice notes there :)?
yey maybe I can finally stop doing vocalized chest bass by accident lol edit: that blue yeti looks *bent* edit edit: Vouch for taking breaks: I once got a throat infection, 105F fever, and complete vocal loss for a few days because I pushed my throat bass constantly
Hey man, I appreciate the video and breaking down what the throat bass is, I've been practicing this for like a long time and I had times were I just stop completely bcuz it felt pointless to me to figure out what I'm supposed to do. But now since I got into beatbox again I was thinking of trying to practice throat bass to see if I can really get my beatbox to the next lvl. I have like 3 questions that I'm trying to figure out if I'm doing it right or not. 1. Do I need to breath it out my mouth or nose? 2. Can I drink cold water or just normal water? I heard from a friend that cold water makes it hard for you throat to work with when practicing throat bass. 3. Do I need to be similar to a singer with good control of my voice? I'm not a singer so I have a low voice and can't sing high notes. Also despite my failed attempts, my throat is still on good condition so I don't experience ANY long term pain from failing the throat bass. I hope get learn this sound bcuz this has been my most fav sound since the Marcus Perez Vine era which is basically 6 - 7 years ago at this point XD. Thanks again for the tutorial, I will practice this very much and very careful.
Wow thank you for this beautiful comment! 1 The sound is outward, so you can do it woth the full voice through thevmouth, or just like a hum through the nose, it stays the same. 2 I recommend drinking tea or warm water, because i believe it helps relax and calm down the throat, amd also it kust feels nice. 3 I dont think you necessarily have to be a singer, but singing is useful because you really get to know your voice and you learn things like pitch accuracy, and breath control, which i think can help you squeeze out all the juice this bass has ro offer
@@MazeFrogBeatbox Thanks Maze, I really appreciate the help that I'm getting because I really do love this sound. Also drinking warm water really sounds like a good idea cuz it really puts my throat in a relax and loose state. Btw, while practicing is there an expectancy on when I can learn the sound? I'm fine if it would take a month because taking breaks is important for the throat so that I won't break my throat. EDIT: I just notice that if I do really deep sigh through my through and let it pass through my nose I notice a vibration through my throat, its not painful, it's ticklish, but it feels pretty difficult to control. Is this the part of my throat were I can practice throat bass with?
@@gallanomarkandrea.1787 i’m not sure if i can give a good estimate, but maybe a month yeah, two months? if you’re not experienced with vocal basses it will take longer, but you will get to know your throat better!
I was wondering if I need a naturally deep voice to be able to do this and other techniques cuz I've been trying a lot but it always seems like I start vocal frying before getting to the actual bass sounds.
bro my throat bass sounds like codfish's starting of black betty where he goes like a guitar. if i try to go lower it doesnt sound like throat bass. help
It really differs from person to person, for be throat bass was like a month, vocalized chest bass a year, hard bass is still far from where i want it to be, but i dont train it
@@MazeFrogBeatbox hey bro according me 1st Step throat bass , 2nd Step relax throat bass with sigh which becomes chest bass , 3rd Step pressurize chest bass then it becomes evil bass , 4th Step with mouth postioning it becomes hard bass , am I correct . Brother I am working hard on chest bass but how to switch it to evil bass it is so confusing 😔 😢 , can you tell me ? You can tell me here or can I show how my chest bass sounds like then can you correct it ? 😢
@@home7914 if by relaxing the throat bass you get a chest bass then its likely that your throat bass is actually a slizzer bass. I think youre talking about my hard bass tutorial right?
