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It's almost time for the Outlaws of Thunder Junction Pre-Release! In this video I give you my thoughts on the new cards for Magic: the Gathering's newest set, focusing on how they play in Limited.
What my grades mean:
I use a letter grade system, and my grades usually fall into a bell curve (Very few A’s and F’s, lots of C’s.)
A - Bombs that are always your first pick, they completely warp the game in your favor, and they easily pull you into their color(s). You always first pick these. These are cards you are ecstatic to have in your deck. Most sets have 15-20 of these. Tend to mostly be Mythics or Rares, though sometimes an Uncommon gets there.
(Unstable Glyph Bridge, Zoetic Glyph, Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal)
B - Premium removal spells and highly efficient creatures, often worth first picking. Still strong enough to pull you into their colors, but not quite as game or draft warping as A’s are. These are cards you feel good about having in your deck, and you would play several copies of most of them. Mostly Uncommons and higher, but there are usually 5-10 commons that get there too.
(Oltec Cloud Guard, Inverted Iceberg, Join the Dead)
C - Filler. These are cards you neither feel good or bad about having in your deck. You play them if you’re in their colors, but they don’t tempt you to go into their color at all. Usually includes reasonably efficient creatures, good combat tricks, and removal spells. These appear at all rarities, but are most frequently Common. (Ironpaw Aspirant, Brackish Blunder, River Herald Guide)
D - Playable in an emergency. These are cards that you don’t feel so good about playing, but in a pinch, sometimes you just have to play them. These are often inefficient vanilla creatures or overly narrow cards. These appear at all rarities. (Frilled Cave Wurm, Glowcap Lantern, Seeker of Sunlight)
F - Unplayable. These are cards that you should never play. There are very few of these in modern Limited formats, but they do appear at all rarities, with the most usually appearing at Rare and Common. These are cards whose effects are pretty much useless or overly narrow. (The Enigma Jewel, Canonized in Blood, Hit the Mother Lode)
There are two categories of cards that I give two grades to: Build Arounds and Sideboard Cards.
Build Around: These are cards that need special synergy to be at their best - synergy that won’t just come naturally. For these cards, I give one grade indicating how I think the card will perform in a typical deck of that color, and another grade if you manage to get there on synergy. (Gargantuan Leech, Terror Tide, Throne of the Grim Captain)
Sideboard Cards: These are generally cards that are Ds or Fs in your mainboard, but can perform much better out of the sideboard - at least as a C or higher
(Tectonic Hazard, Malicious Eclipse)
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@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
As has been pointed out by comments, Pest Infestation doesn't actually need targets. So, it's a token generator with upside. It's more like a B. I also gave Contagion Engine a B.
@matthewmarshall5234
@matthewmarshall5234 Месяц назад
Don't forget there's technically a "donate" card in the format aka Shifting Grift for anybody who's not scared of Greed's Gambit. Its a stretch but a possibility none the less. Is exchanging control leaving the battlefield? Im going to say no but Im no judge (Rules clarification) "Your not going to be doing that in limited" 😂 Brother I gaurantee somebody will be doing that.
@MineRoyale.
@MineRoyale. Месяц назад
I'd expect Pest Infestation to be an A. The card is crazy good in vintage cube, even without targets. It's so easy to win a race with a bajillion 1/1s that gain you life on death
@matthewmarshall5234
@matthewmarshall5234 Месяц назад
​@@MineRoyale.I think he and everybody else got that already. Its clearly an opionon based set review considering Sandstorm Salvager got a B+ when imo an easy A considering Blade spicer doesnt have an acitivated ability that also has to be awsnered before it gets more value.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
@@matthewmarshall5234 Blade Splicer also isn't an A, though. I'd give it a B in today's limited.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
@MineRoyale. It's definitely good, but not actually that efficient. Hard to be an A. Vintage Cube is a very different animal.
@SuperSilverSerpent
@SuperSilverSerpent Месяц назад
I love bonus sheet videos because I love hearing about how infamous cards fare in limited.
@littlemrdoom5997
@littlemrdoom5997 Месяц назад
It is crazy to see cards that have broken 60 or even 99 card formats before and be told "Yeah if you see this don't pick it up", however if I see some of the cards with a large price tag on them it'll be hard to pass them up, I might Crack and draft them anyways
@pewwwwooop
@pewwwwooop Месяц назад
Mostly bad
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Месяц назад
@@littlemrdoom5997 Oh if I pull that $80 trap im nabbin it. Always had this tendency since my first draft when I got a great henge off colour. Yoinked the fotd from last special guest slot bcos it looks amazing
@littlemrdoom5997
@littlemrdoom5997 Месяц назад
@@Hornet-bz4xg same
@woodysmith2681
@woodysmith2681 Месяц назад
Flavor Text for this is much better than usual. Great conceit of old-timey newspaper headlines.
@ArclinusCastoral
@ArclinusCastoral Месяц назад
This video is now a 3/3 elk.
@matthewmarshall5234
@matthewmarshall5234 Месяц назад
Dont forget "with no abilities"
@memyself3510
@memyself3510 Месяц назад
Deep down, aren’t we all 3/3 elks?
@yorkieandthechihuahua
@yorkieandthechihuahua Месяц назад
@@memyself3510 With no abilities (at least if you've seen me on Arena, you'll know I am).
@JTheGameGuy
@JTheGameGuy Месяц назад
Highly underrating Pest Infestation here, It's an x token spell with the upside of being able to destroy artifacts and enchantments.
@TheDougWay
@TheDougWay Месяц назад
Yes, unlike Decimate it is you may. So it's almost like a Thrashing Brontodon or something that is maindeckable enchantment hate.
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Месяц назад
Yeah 100% im interested for the what I got wrong video since this might be the first set where ive been pretty confused with some of his ratings (only like 5 out of seemingly a billion so like meh) but usaully he always does a good job justifying and swaying me
@irou95
@irou95 Месяц назад
Yeah it's B+ territory
@jackiespaceman
@jackiespaceman Месяц назад
Babe there’s an hour long bonus video!
@JPEPIC88
@JPEPIC88 Месяц назад
Let’s be real if you play magic there is no babe haha
@OmegaSD18
@OmegaSD18 Месяц назад
​@JPEPIC88 most of my playgroup is married or dating someone. Even if the partners are not interested in MTG, they're supportive. Just saying...maybe you're possible lack of "babe" doesn't extend to others 😅?
@davestier6247
@davestier6247 Месяц назад
​@OmegaSD18 yeah same. I'm in my 40s with multiple kids. Pretty much my whole playgroup is dads.
@harrison1735
@harrison1735 Месяц назад
Pest Infestation gives you tokens even if you target nothing with it.
@BigCheeseNaan
@BigCheeseNaan Месяц назад
Yeah the floor is fine, definitely not an F
@littlemrdoom5997
@littlemrdoom5997 Месяц назад
Imp's mischief does have the surprise factor of being a mono black "counterspell". Nobody ever expects black to mess with their spells
@irou95
@irou95 Месяц назад
In limited it's very often worth it if you go second to pass your turn and discard to handsize with reanimate if you have a big 6-7drop in hand.
@johngleeman8347
@johngleeman8347 Месяц назад
20:11 Always nice to see an effect like countering a spell or forcing a player to discard cards obliged to get a high grade because of how strong it is.
@Lenny533
@Lenny533 Месяц назад
I have a question is mindslaver + Esoteric Duplicator infinite turns ? When was the last time you could play an infinite cube in limited?
@stefanoderosa9506
@stefanoderosa9506 Месяц назад
Yes it is, well, it's even better than infiinite turns since you also get infinite of your opponents turns. That said, it's impossible to pull off, the cards are too rare, you need to draft them both, play them both and not die before you can use them. The probabilities are probably in the millionths
@Luyspa13
@Luyspa13 Месяц назад
"That's right, they did it" got a chuckle out of me. Answered the exact question I was asking.
@MattEggers-eo3si
@MattEggers-eo3si Месяц назад
Your reviews are awesome. Thanks for all of your hard work.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
Glad you like them!
@Jack-uh2db
@Jack-uh2db Месяц назад
I’d imagine murder has to at least be better than it was in MKM. That set was absolutely infested with ward. That being said, I still agree with it being a C+ here edit- Also I think Pest Infestation is maindeckable. It’s an “up to” on the target, so the floor is 3 mana for 2 pests, and it scales. With targets to destroy it’s obviously incredible
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Месяц назад
Yeah pest is pretty sweet, the scaling 1/1s and incediental hate is worth maindecking 100%
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 Месяц назад
WAIT is pest infestation coming to arena? I love that fucking card
@soren1803
@soren1803 Месяц назад
Same reason it’s in my cube
@ab-mc2nq
@ab-mc2nq Месяц назад
no grade for contagion engine?
@krisdaschwab912
@krisdaschwab912 Месяц назад
I'd give it a C+
@zachbattles9762
@zachbattles9762 Месяц назад
Fling does work nicely with the Mercenary tokens tap buffs. So it's a little more powerful. Probably not enough to move the grade, but don't overlook it.
@joshhudson9839
@joshhudson9839 Месяц назад
I don't think you actually need any targets for pest ifnestation because it targets up to x artifacts/enchantments. The way I view it the ability to destroy artifacts/enchantments is just upside because you're playing this just to make the tokens. It's still not a bomb or anything but 3 mana to make 2 tokens or mana to make 4 plus occasionally destroying something seems pretty solid, tbh I would give it maybe a B- in the maindeck. I might be a bit off on the rulings but my understanding is you don't need any targets to cast this.
@matthewmarshall5234
@matthewmarshall5234 Месяц назад
Agreed. Bc no you dont need any targets at all. This card is always going to make your main deck if your running green its super flexiable even if your only hitting just one target its going to feel great especially if you have a commit a crime effect i think it deserves at least a C+ or B-
@irou95
@irou95 Месяц назад
Tyrants scorn was the best non rare card in WAR according to 17lands it's often used to save your own bomb from removal (that set was full of those) in addition to the removal options it has. I think it's easily b+
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Месяц назад
Savage smash at a B is pretty nuts
@matthewmarshall5234
@matthewmarshall5234 Месяц назад
Ikr, nothing like getting your sorcery speed removal blown out by instant speed interaction imagine giving this a better grade than muder 😂
@stefanoderosa9506
@stefanoderosa9506 Месяц назад
yeah and the 2BB kill a creature with upside if you kill a small thing was a C+
@OrbGoblin
@OrbGoblin Месяц назад
I really love the art style they used on the prosperity sheet.
@kaijuknight8172
@kaijuknight8172 Месяц назад
When playing "pest infestation", the wording makes it so that you don't have to kill anything, but you still get the pests. So I'd give it a higher grade, since it's 3 mana for 2 bodies, 5 mana for 4 bodies, 7 mana for 6 bodies and so on.
@ElPanadero18
@ElPanadero18 Месяц назад
Splitting hairs, but I think Vaultborn Tyrant is an A+.
@joshhudson9839
@joshhudson9839 Месяц назад
I actually think pariah might be alright in a slower white deck if that's a thing. It can effecitvely give you a whole turn of protection from combat damage while also removing their guy. I really think it can buy you a lot of time if you're on the defense.
@christopherfu2169
@christopherfu2169 Месяц назад
I know Merriment is a reprint, but what a retroactive flavour fail, only one of the three tokens are outlaws.
@Narpas
@Narpas Месяц назад
Really amusing that Outlaw's Merriment doesn't produce outlaws
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Месяц назад
OMG
@bumfricker2487
@bumfricker2487 Месяц назад
i mean, one of the modes is an outlaw
@gdiridium5525
@gdiridium5525 Месяц назад
it produces one, the rogue (who also happens to be the only one that commits a crime)
@Aether90
@Aether90 Месяц назад
It's definitely hard to cast but if you're redirecting with Commander you fizzle their spell, redirect onto one of their creatures, and save your creature. It's kind of like a 3 for 3.
@truxcer
@truxcer Месяц назад
Shouldn't Leyline Binding be at least same rank as Mystical tether? Also, Grand Abolisher looks very valuable in Selesnya deck, where he allows you to safely mount and play your fight-based removal. I feel like it's in B range in these decks.
@jimzh7669
@jimzh7669 Месяц назад
Wait ya why is it a b- lol its arguably way better since it's usually 4 mana since it on average is discounted by 2 starting at 6 since you won't be playing it in mono color and you won't have so many duals by turn 4 that it isn't discounted by that much. Kind of funny he said leyline is worse
@Jack-uh2db
@Jack-uh2db Месяц назад
mystical tether has a better floor imo, 3 mana sorcery/5 flash is better than 4 flash
@jimzh7669
@jimzh7669 Месяц назад
​@Jack-uh2db ya, you're probably right for 1 more mana flash is incredible but being able to cast it a turn earlier for 3 even as a sorcery is way better didn't even think about that
@romankozelov5078
@romankozelov5078 Месяц назад
Watched the first draft on youtube - the guy was behind in life and creatures, played Archive Trap for free next turn played creature, which gave a Flashback. GG. It is not an F - it can win games alone
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
It may not be an F. But winning once isn't enough to say it isn't an F.
@xxANBUxx
@xxANBUxx Месяц назад
It is pretty crazy in hindsight that thr opportunist was an uncommon in Mid with multiple sac decks, uncommon bomb in that set.
@riccardocalosso5688
@riccardocalosso5688 Месяц назад
5his is by gar the best art fling has ever been printed with!
@HelminthCombos
@HelminthCombos Месяц назад
they turned an uncommon into a mythic rare XD
@david10808
@david10808 Месяц назад
31:45 I never imagined I'd see a Magic card about playing too much Tetris
@drjbobo
@drjbobo Месяц назад
You just know someone somewhere is going to Stoneforge Mystic a Sword of Wealth and Power
@TheMgborn
@TheMgborn Месяц назад
Fomori vault only requires a single artifact, like a treasure, to be an untapped land with upside of looting. At worst its just an untapped land that taps for colourless, I think you should include this in most 2 colour decks because of how free it is and looting at instant speed is useful.
@stefanoderosa9506
@stefanoderosa9506 Месяц назад
yeah, 3 mana to loot it's not great but it's a land, so it doesn't hurt. Plus having 2 or 3 artifacts laying around might happen. I don't think it's good either but it should be a D/D+, not an F
@annayosh
@annayosh Месяц назад
You forgot to call out a grade for Contagion Engine - I guess it's either C or C+, but would be nice to have it.
@rippujin1735
@rippujin1735 Месяц назад
He said in pinned comment that Contagion Engine is a B
@professionalhater3929
@professionalhater3929 Месяц назад
We’re on our way for bonus sheets having more cards then the actual set gonna start drafting around the bonus sheets then the actual set 💀
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
Well, the bonus sheet cards are rare enough that we won't be able to do that
@llongone2
@llongone2 Месяц назад
Soooooooooooooooooooo many mythic rares!
@joshuaking7470
@joshuaking7470 Месяц назад
I'm with you like how many of these cards are gonna be preempively banned in Arena? I know the whole video I was just like 'Yeeeeee' with all the ideas for Historic and Endless formats.
@bumfricker2487
@bumfricker2487 Месяц назад
@@joshuaking7470 not to mention all the "Big Score" cards are Standard Legal, barring bans
@DiviTon
@DiviTon Месяц назад
That Pest Infestation grade is wiiiiild. Its a C+ without a single target and if you have even 1 target it jumps to B. If you have 2 targets it easily gets into the A range. I wonder if he didnt realize you can just make pests without a target.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
See pinned comment for your answer.
@ricklawrence2515
@ricklawrence2515 Месяц назад
Vaultborn Tyrant is just ludicrous. It's absolute failsafe is a 4-for-1
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Месяц назад
I mean absolute fail case is eating an exile but wow im gonna cry when someone gets like 4 in a prerelease
@Reluxthelegend
@Reluxthelegend Месяц назад
21:45 man, one can really feel the power creep
@matthewmarshall5234
@matthewmarshall5234 Месяц назад
Your probably going to have a game where an oppononet makes 4 or 6 pest possibly blowing up one of your enchantment removal peices and its going to feel pretty gross. Pest infestion is a solid C+ Around 56 artifacts and enchantnents included in the main set, big score, and crime bonus sheet.
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Месяц назад
Oh man well beyond a c+, it's very very good
@matthewmarshall5234
@matthewmarshall5234 Месяц назад
@@Hornet-bz4xg The more you look at this set with all its bonus cards the more targets you find the ceiling is defiantly high especialy the longer the game goes on but your going to run into this weird scenerio where do I play this turn 3 bc its my only proactive play(at which point its below curve) or do you not play anything that turn and hold it. Its going to be worth the trouble of holding vs some decks but vs blue white for ex your just going to be racing flyers and creatures suited to block 1/1s and probably loosing the race at that point in the game. Its hard to grasp all the cards in this set without drafting it a few times but I can already think of a few cards where this card is going to feel mid for ex. There's a 3 mana uncommon instant that gives all your opponent creatures -1/-1. You gained 6 life but they just time warped for 3 mana...
@rwed13
@rwed13 Месяц назад
- grand abolisher.. - it's: pimp known as grand abolisher
@captainshiner42
@captainshiner42 Месяц назад
Isn't Prismatic Vista just a strictly better version of all of the fetch lands?
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
No. It can't grab duals.
@captainshiner42
@captainshiner42 Месяц назад
@@NizzahonMagic Crap. Guess I should have read the cards better.
@helghallen
@helghallen Месяц назад
Contagion engine doesn't have a letter grade?
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
See pinned comment
@insomnyteq
@insomnyteq Месяц назад
grand abolisher looks like a pimp. should be Hasbro's new logo.
@kaydenchapman3094
@kaydenchapman3094 Месяц назад
A lot of extra cards in the set i see
@gkeuler
@gkeuler Месяц назад
What's the actual name of Harvester of Mystery.... I guess we will never know
@Reluxthelegend
@Reluxthelegend Месяц назад
You forgot to give contagion engine a grade.
@DaxRaider
@DaxRaider Месяц назад
With so many tokens remember you can path to exile your own shitty token to ramp urself
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Месяц назад
☠️
@stefanoderosa9506
@stefanoderosa9506 Месяц назад
If you're desperate maybe, but giving up a mana, a token and an excellent removal spell to ramp does not seem like a good idea
@caseykiesling4348
@caseykiesling4348 Месяц назад
Punishment destroying all tokens for 2 mana seems like a great sideboard card in constructed
@bostonblubasaur6096
@bostonblubasaur6096 Месяц назад
Aint no way you gave pest infestation an F its the nuts
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
Yeah, I pinned a comment about that. I made a mistake, thinking you had to have targets for the first part to make the tokens. It's a B.
@ShadowWalker-ng1it
@ShadowWalker-ng1it Месяц назад
I'd say surgical extraction could be upgraded to a D because it's floor is a 0 mana spell for the 2 spells deck
@stefanoderosa9506
@stefanoderosa9506 Месяц назад
free spells that do nothing are really bad
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 Месяц назад
Effects like fling and fell the mighty might be better than normal in this format due to the mercenary tokens making stat adjustments possible.
@ThingsDontAlways
@ThingsDontAlways Месяц назад
I feel like the Jitte is overrated. it has to actually make contact and doesnt give any sort of statboost upfront. kind of a win-harder card thats gonna be hard to pick in a aggro deck over just more creatures or removal or tricks.
@Jack-uh2db
@Jack-uh2db Месяц назад
It’s extremely trivial to get counters (do any sort of damage at all with the creature, even blocking) and once you do have counters the jitte becomes a nightmare in combat with those activated abilitities. If the counters were stored on the creature rather than the equipment i’d be lower but as is it looks very very efficient
@bumfricker2487
@bumfricker2487 Месяц назад
yeah as said above I think you're missing that it' gets charges off any "combat damage" and not the more difficult "combat damage to an opponent/player"
@BaronVonTeeVirus
@BaronVonTeeVirus Месяц назад
Here’s a list of 90 fetch commander spells that nobody will see in sealed.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
You'll see plenty of the Breaking News cards in Sealed.
@bobfranklin2572
@bobfranklin2572 Месяц назад
Ah yes, the THREE "bonus" sheets that's an hour long video...
@Flum666
@Flum666 Месяц назад
dustbowl isn't on the bonus sheet
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
It is, though.
@matthewmarshall5234
@matthewmarshall5234 Месяц назад
Primal commands shuffle my graveyard into my library then tutor back my best creature..oh my sweet baby ray sauce the value also In a pinch if your capable of winning a game but your opponent just played an Oko or something crazy just top it and make them shuffle it back in. Ez. I give it a C+
@beenjammin8581
@beenjammin8581 Месяц назад
Dude fell the mighty is an A, not c+
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
It can feel like an A in the right situation, but it's awkward too often to get the grade.
@Domekarl
@Domekarl Месяц назад
this are too much cards for one set imo
@OneOfThePetes
@OneOfThePetes Месяц назад
Outlaws merriment is really not better than indomitable creativity.
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
In Limited it is about a million times better.
@charliecounts2794
@charliecounts2794 Месяц назад
Your sound is echoey. Some of the poorest quality of anyone dorking about magic. Like the set reviews but got to the point I can't listen to it anymore
@NizzahonMagic
@NizzahonMagic Месяц назад
I don't hear it at all, and you're the first to complain. Sure it isn’t on your end?
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Месяц назад
Had 2 harsh peaks on one of these reviews with like F sounds but its not even close to bad charl
@L33TB33T
@L33TB33T Месяц назад
Are you using Bluetooth headphones? This happens to me with a specific set of headphones on a specific computer which is odd. Haven’t found a fix yet.
@bumfricker2487
@bumfricker2487 Месяц назад
49:29 not all artifacts and lands are cards; if you exile a Token with this does it even get its abilities? Very weird templating either way for such a new card not to specify "nontoken" - feels like a trap, though I doubt anyone falls for it even with a few "make a token copy of target artifact" cards in the format
@JasonOshinko
@JasonOshinko Месяц назад
If you exile a token, Territory Forge will have no additional abilities, because, as you said, a token is not a card, so there is no "exiled card". That said, it can still exile a problem token that's an artifact or land, but that's probably not the best use for it.
@bumfricker2487
@bumfricker2487 Месяц назад
wow these sheets seem very hit or miss, like you're either getting a super bomb or a card that is (for limited at least) a stone cold dud. Kinda annoyed that this is what Play boosters have done to limited (made incredible power more luck-dependent) though I suppose one or two of these sheets would've been in Draft Boosters anyways
@joshsobelman9779
@joshsobelman9779 Месяц назад
engagement!
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