Please support this channel: / gregsairplanesandautom... Paypal: mistydawne2010@yahoo.com This video covers some, but not all of the specifics of the P-47 D-40 as well as some other things I haven't seen discussed before.
I knew a man who owned a -47D model. He showed me how to prep it for flight and even let me start it. That was a thrill I've never forgotten. He would always say "If you want to fly a plane that excites all the girls, fly a -51. If you want to get home to your girl, fly a Jug!"
when i was a kid around 10, i started a helicopter inside Weymouth Naval base hanger. pretty sure that was the last time my uncle took me and my brother to work with him LOL i think it was a Huey, it was the 80s.
So grateful for DCS, and the P-47D module. I fly AT402s during the crop-dusting season, and when I'm spraying, I'm always pretending that I'm flying a Jug strafing Nazi convoys. DCS lets me fly my favorite WW2 bird in virtual reality...
So that's what you're thinking about on them easy fields with no obstacles on the end.😂 I couldn't do that I'd forget to keep a eye on the GPS and miss a spot😂
Switching careers to aviation right now, and flying crop-dusters (later aerial firefighters hopefully) is what I want to do. Also, the P-47 is my favorite aircraft of all time.
I am a Greg fanboy. And by that I don’t mean that I think Greg is the be-all and end-all, or that he’s always right. But I do find that every video like this teaches me just how much I did not know about these aircraft. For that, I am very appreciative.
I helped build some of those oil trays many years ago as a volunteer-IIRC the mechanics said that the oil system drains through even without the engine running something like every 24 hours. It’s a great museum and I hope you had a great time there.
In 2020 I attended the Museum of WWII Aviation and my first takeaway from the staff is that all of the aircraft there are not only flyable, but literally get flown at least yearly. I was especially intrigued to find a F3A-1 Corsair---- Built by Brewster--- in their collection. I learned, via Greg's narrative that that particular aircraft was the subject of "Blueprinting" and that it's otherwise disasterous build was being rectified by meticulous fitters and mechanics. The museum is spectacular and I recommend it to anyone remotely interested in WWII aviation. I was particularly impressed with the staff, who are all volunteer, who were very accommodating regarding photos, etc. as well as general knowledge of the exhibits. As an aside, when I introduced myself as a submariner, the staff immediately bombarded me with questions about my career and experiences underwater. I thought it a bit surreal, as I looked around at the aviation history surrounding us...............................
Thanks, and that's exactly right about their Brewster Corsair. It's essentially what I would call a blueprinted airplane and is probably as good or better than any production Corsair from WW2.
The whole time I was growing up, I was only interested in the P-38 and the P-51. I saw the P-47 as an old cow. Now that I know more about aircraft of the era, I have a respect for the P-47 I never thought I'd have before. (Edited because I had a typo, I typed out P-39 instead of P-38)
Something interesting about the P38, look up how much the pilot has to do if he is flying in cruise mode and suddenly has to go to combat mode as, say, he’s been “bounced” by the enemy. Let’s say it’s about 30 seconds of switch flicking starting with turning the gun heater on. He’s dead meat. The pilots begged Lockheed to put it all on one switch, like every other manufacturer did, but they refused.
Have u ever played war thunder? It's got multiple p47 models in many different nations. The aircraft is absolutely amazing. A hot rod in the sky to be sure. After dropping ur payload u can then start climbing in order to go book n zoom. One of the few planes that earns the title "multi-role".
Mr. Greg, you are a most extraordinary communicator. I love airplanes, but I am always amazed that I can enjoy these fairly lengthy technical lectures (or series of lectures, as in the case of the p-47)! And I appreciate that you clearly, explicitly differentiate between your opinions, beliefs, speculations and facts.
I agree. I tend to enjoy longer-firm videos on technical subjects , but even well researched and knowledgeable creators can be tedious and unenjoyable. What prevents Greg’s videos from falling in that bin is the logical progression from point to point, and the balance between terse and complete.
"Notice the inside of the gear doors. This is going to be a significant discussion." Only on this channel and that's why we love it. (As a software engineer I've written multi-line comments as to why certain variables should be exactly the order they're in in a structure or class: e.g., to avoid false sharing in the cache, or to avoid structure holes.)
How much y'all wanna bet in a week all the "popular" RU-vid channels will come out with p47d videos and hit random highlights Greg covers with a sprinkling of common misconceptions and falsehoods. Thank you sir for sharing your passion of aviation in a way that is endlessly interesting and covering things literally no one else does your the only channel I truly look forward to the next video I try to comment as often as I remember and I always leave a like when I get back on my feet you definitely deserve thank you on patreon
Must be something American. I acknowledge the P 47ˋs toughness, it is a good airplane, but to my eye it’s plain ugly. My eye is pleased by a P 51, a Spitfire, a Me 109, even y a Hurricane or a FW 190, but the jug? ugh!
I toured this museum last Saturday and was extremely impressed with their aircraft displays. What's more they are all flyable. If you go, take the tour of their facilities. The docent guides are older gentlemen, most if not all, are veterans. Johnny our guide was very well informed on history and operation of each of the aircraft. One of the most interesting, besides the P-47 is their P-38. That plane was found buried off a runway on a pacific Island. They brought it back and the museum completely rebuilt it to flyable condition in their shop. Highly recommend a visit to the museum if you are in the Colorado springs area. Also, be sure and see their immaculate Douglas AD5 Skyraider that has a cockpit for a crew of 2. The pilot escaped the fall of Saigon by flying it to Thailand. ---- He had 15 close friends also crammed on board.
Yeah!!!!!! More P-47 stuff. No one really covers the P-47. And of course, no one covers aircraft with as much great details like Greg. I’m so glad I found this channel. The original P-47 series made me realize right away that Greg was the real deal!!!
I think the "Manual meshing control" is for using the hand-crank inertial starter. The flywheel is cranked up to speed (about 80 rpm on the hand crank) and then engaged to the engine jaw with the manual meshing control.
I always thought WW2 aircraft would be kind of 'hollow' behind the pilot with only maybe a radio and control wires but the Jug is full to the brim with gizmos and contraptions galore! Thank you Greg for everything you do, I never thought I'd be so engrossed by grognard nerdy techno talks about aircraft but hotdamn here I am!
I'm an aircraft mechanic by vocation. I have since childhood been fascinated with WW2 aircraft. I've been as much of a fan of the P47 and P-38 as the Mustang and have appreciated your extensive coverage of the P-47 and the blame it took for the bomber mafia's blunder. I find it interesting that in spite of the "superiority of Mustang, Corsair and others, the highest scoring American ace was a P-38 pilot.
Greg, fellow Tulsan and may have overlapped your visit to WWII aviation museum. They had a layout of the P-47 intercooler/turbosupercharger system of the “Jug” in a different building that gave me a new level of appreciation, thanks to your earlier videos. The plane was built around this system and it explains why the airframe is so HUGE! Thank you for all that you do!
I was gonna mention the turbo system they have displayed too - I wish Greg had included a picture of it as well as you really don't get a sense of the scale of just how much that whole thing took up until you see it by itself. Even without it though, Greg, great video. I live about a half an hour away and this is making me feel like it's time to visit the museum again soon.
Those antennae on the tail are indeed the AN/APS-13 tail warning system. According to Republic drawings, the system was in use starting with the P-47D-35-RE and up. Great video!
When I was 10 years old, I had built about a dozen or so plastic model airplanes. And ultimately each was heroically destroyed using bottle rockets plus other small fireworks leftover from the 4th. Suddenly one day, my destructive and immature behavior ceased once unpacking new model while pre-reading assembly instructions for a model of the "Hun Hunter", a historic Thunderbolt from WW2, Korea and more. It was my first high quality model with fine detail all the way down to the 2 Schrader valves within landing main gear wheel hubs. Everything about that model building experience helped me to gain an appreciation for vintage warbirds and the harrowing stories told by flight crews both up above and below. Thank you for all the time and effort you spend producing the aviation videos. The "P-47" was my first favorite prompting a serious appreciation for aviation and grows evermore. Thank you again.
The dorsal fin was definitely retrofitted to earlier models, up to the D-25. The reason was loss of yaw control, probably at low speeds and max power. The tail warning radar was also retrofitted to earlier models. I know this because I read a article about the P-47 in the FAB (Brazilian Air Force) service, during and after WW2. If memory didn't fail me, the fin was retrofitted during the war (although not all units got it) and the tail radar after, in a effort to bring all the units to a common standard, equivalent to the D-40.
The fin does not provide a measurable increase in area. And what few extra square feet of area it adds, it's located much closer to the centers of gravity and aerodynamics than the rest of the tail. So, it's not only too small to be effective but its leverage is also significantly hampered as well simply because its not located far enough aft to do much. To exasperate the issue, its of exceptionally low aspect ratio, and therefore its lift-curve slope (dCL/da) is going to be very shallow and develop little if any side-force at shallow side-slip angles. Therefore, it does not appear it will provide additional yaw-stability in the way you envision. It actually creates a very strong vortex-lift at extremely high sideslip angles encountered during a spin. It generates this lift by developing a strong vortical flow due to its extremely low-aspect ratio. The aft end is truncated in a sharp angle, where the vortex is shed at steep sideslip angles and that vortex more easily follows the contour of the rudder when its deflected against the sideslip. E.g. when the aircraft is in a fully developed spin to the right, nose going right, the rudder is deflected to the left to counter the spin in order to recover. But the vertical stabilizer could and likely did stall at that sideslip angle. Or at least become ineffective at creating additional side-lift by increasing camber (rudder deflection) alone. By generating a vortex flow at that juncture, the vortex cuts the vertical stabilizer in half, effectively quartering its aspect ratio, which almost doubles its stalling angle of attack. It also allows airflow to follow the contour of the deflected rudder, instead of separating. Its the phenomenon that allows the F/A-18 to attain 60*Deg AoA with an medium (4.0) Aspect Ratio wing. The F-16, various Sukhois, F-22/35 and others also use this for improved lift at high AoA.
There is a beautiful P47 N, the first thing you see as you enter the Elgin Air Force Museum near Ft. Walton Beach, FL. Don’t miss it! My uncle flew P47’s and was shot down and thrown from his plane when he crashed. Locals secreted his body from the German’s just 17 miles from Omaha Beach. This happened late July 1944 and we still were just 17 miles inland? Scary.
I recently saw Area Diesel Service channel do an overhaul on a Cat D8 Turbocharger from the 1950's. It was eye opening just how similar and different it was from the modern example. ADS said that the Cat D8 turbo traces its design to WW2 aircraft turbochargers. Thanks again for some great close up shots, myself I have been fortunate to see some great military museums and exhibits while visiting Russia, there are always unexpected gems on display which are worth the effort.
True WW II aviation fans learn to spin their eyes fast enough to read the Curtiss or Hamilton Std emblems while the engine is running. Seriously, thanks again Greg!!
I visited this place about 6 hours ago and the catalina was taxiing back. It was cool to see someone in the flight engineers position. Also speaking of those two Tigercats, do you have any plans on making a video talking about some features or quirks regarding it?
I was a P-51 fanboy as a kid, and I want to say that at some point in my reading on the aircraft, I saw a comment that the reason the inboard gear door went up was to avoid having it obstruct the airflow into the radiator intake duct. I enjoy your stuff very much, btw.
It seems there is alot more on the P47 around since you did your videos and this just adds to its appreciation. That restaurant looks amazing such an imaginative use of living history.
I was a mech, then a radar tech, before becoming a tech writer (where I did less harm). So, I not only enjoy your subjects, but also the precision and economy of your descriptions. That skill has solved more than one mystery for this aircraft nut.
Little bit of trivia about the bubble top canopy: According to Green (Fighters Vol.4. p175) the original conversion was done with a bubble canopy from a Hawker Typhoon.
FANTASTIC!!! Have you seen Bonnie,theD model razorback that belongs to the Bemidgi museum?? She also has a working turbo supercharger. She was showcased doing aerobatics at Oshkosh this year. THANK YOU for doing so much for the JUG!!!!!
I donated a part used on that plane. It was the fairing around the waste gate exhaust. I had bought it off of Etsy. They were very kind and sent me other parts like a P47 fuel gauge and a P51 piston. I’d love to see the plane fly some day.
These videos are always incredible. Your exceptional technical knowledge exceeds that of most pilots and many engineers, and your commitment to historical accuracy is a unique combination.
The P-47 at Flying Heritage (the late Paul Allen) has the whole Turbo-Supercharging system working. When it Buzzes the field, it is a LOT louder than t h e rest. Macho sound!
Used to volunteer at that museum. Every single plane is flying condition and one flys pretty much every month. Got to up in the Catalina for volunteer appreciation. Highly recommend the museum
I've been to this museum and seen that exact plane! and next door in one of their other hangars they have an entire mock-up of the engine and turbo system all laid out with piping and diagrams to show how the air flows through everything. In fact, come to think of it, while discussing that engine with my tour guide, he suggested I look up this very youtube channel!! From a lowly A&P here in Omaha, NE: thank you for the amazing content, please keep it up!
Wow I lived there in Castle Rock for years and never saw this museum. If you ever drop in near wings over the Rocky's, I think their B-18 Bolo is being worked on to get it airworthy. They also have a pretty interesting exhibit about the Alexander Aircraft Company which apparently was where Al Mooney got his debut making a little biplane that found decent success. If you haven't seen it I recommend checking them out but I figure you likely have seen it before.
We visited this same museum this summer. It was a great museum and well worth the visit. This Thunderbolt was one of the finest example of this model I have ever seen.
Thanks for the in-depth information. I had noticed in photos the change in canopies and fins on the “D” but I couldn’t figure when it started. Also I never noticed the cuffed propeller until now. Thanks
I just saw this video, and appreciate how hard it is to see a p-47 with turbo intact. I know you are familiar with Chris at Planes of Fame who flies one, with the supercharger for weight balance only. If you are ever in Palm Springs you must visit our Air Museum! I am a docent there on most Sundays in the European hanger where we fly two P-51s, a P-63, C-47, AT-6, a non flying P-47 and Spitifire MK IV. THe Pacific hanger has a full complement of carrier planes as well as a P-40 Would love to meet up and give you a tour!
Took my son there about a year ago and did the tour. One of the professor's assistants at my college volunteered there. Great to see you somewhere close to home. Moved from Colorado Springs to Vegas a month ago. Enjoying the videos. Thanks!
We were at the same museum in summer 2021. Great museum, people and planes. Had not heard of it before seeing ads around town. The restoration shop tour was well worth it. Great video.
Interesting stuff on the P-47! When I was in the USAF; I was project officer to mount a KC-97 for the Malmstrom AFB museum in the 80's. The plane was flown in from the boneyard in AZ and made several passes down the runway before its final landing on a crystal blue day. Unfortunately, I did not have a camera for the arrival. It took us most of a day to jack up the 30-ton airplane and place it on its pre-installed base. It remains on display near the front gate.
Nice video, I really love their Thunderbolt. I didn't realize there were so many variants of the D Model, I just thought there were razorback D's and Bubble canopy D's. Thanks for sharing
Thanks Greg, the P-47 has been one of my favorite WWII fighters. The constant evolution of the thing is fascinating. I realize that all aircraft went through improvements but it appeared to make leapfrog differences in the P-47 performance.
Sir, I visited the Co Springs museum 1-2 years ago. I especially enjoyed a P-47 turbo charger that was open, on display, showing the amazing size of just this piece of hardware. As for the KC-97 restaurant, try the steak sandwich next time, you will not be disappointed. Love your work. Don't spare the sidebars, they always make connections to other topics.
Ahhh Greg was in my home town and I didn’t see him! Hope you liked the museum Greg! They have a P-38 which my relative flew in the war. They do great work. I was at Oshkosh this year and got to see a Razorback P-47 “Bonnie” - it was a beautiful, spotless restoration. Best to you!
Thanks buddy. I can't wait to get back to that museum. I want to do this same sort of video but with the P-47 propulsion display, the PBY, The P-38 and so on. I simply can't get this close to the planes at Wright Patterson. Oh, and that B-25!
Yea I really enjoyed that museum. I was impressed that there was that many “fully” functional warplanes and enjoyed looking over the p47, Pby and the f8f the most.
Hi Greg, the Hamilton Hydromatic props were installed on the D-22 and D-25 from the factory. There might have been a few loose planes with this propeller like the one with the pressurized cabin, and maybe a few converted on the field. The rest before the D-22 and after the D-25 used the Curtiss Electric props, from the skinny 12' 2" diameter prop and the two different size paddle 13" diameter props.
4:00 I noted a Tigercat lurking in the background. I would love to see a video on that sleek beast. 8:00 I find little degails like the gear door sequencing to be fascinating. 10:00 So also for the signalling lights. I had never heard of them or noticed them before. 24:40. Regarding the table. We have horses so we cannot have nice things either.
I recently saw the Hoosier Spirit II in Evansville IN. It’s in flyable condition and was built in Evansville at the end of the war. It has a Hamilton Standard prop and you can get up close to nearly everything on the plane.
James Goodson, in his memoir "Tumult in the Clouds", mentions dropping a few degrees of flap while being out-turned by a FW-190. I think he was still flying P-47s at the time, though I'd have to check to be absolutely sure. Incidentally, in regards to that dogfight (the FW escaped), he quotes a few lines from Adolf Galland in "The First and the Last", which suggest that Galland might have been the enemy pilot.
Such a great museum/restoration facility. Went through there about 10 years ago, definitely recommend it, as well as the Peterson Air Force museum at the same time.
@gregsairplamesandautomobiles maybe it’s not up your alley, but I saw some brief things about the Namath parasol. There seem to be several fantastic valid about its abilities and performance. If these were intact true one would ask why don’t we have tons of these plans flying around today. If you were so inclined I would really enjoy a video about this airplane. Thanks for the great content Greg, keep up the good work!
Greg, you are an amazing creator and I love watching your videos on my layovers as much as you love making them on yours. Thanks so much. The technical talk makes it easy for me to sleep on these different beds as it just soothes my mind. It would be amazing to run into you at a hotel bar one night and just chat old planes. Keep up the great work! Would love to see more bigger/heavy stuff like bombers or even modern jets (757?)
Great video! I really enjoyed the detailed explanation of the various systems. Thank you for taking the time to bring us information about these magnificent warbirds! In my opinion Republic delivered an absolute masterpiece in the P-47.
I think he is talking about piston engine aircraft. The jets are really in another category. I should probably have a 262 vs. Meteor vs. P80 vs. Kikka. This would probably manage to upset every fanboy group at the same time.
Great video. One thing, though. The N model wasn't just used in the last few weeks off the war. They began operating out of Ie Shima in April of '45. Four groups were operating over Japan before the war ended. One P-47N pilot, Oscar Perdomo, became an "ace in a day" over Japan. His unit, the 507th, was also the only P-47 outfit in the Pacific to be awarded a Presidential Unit Citation.
Have pored over just a tiny number of the P47 plans. The complexity of these aircraft is unimaginable to most people. There must be hundreds if not thousands of drawings. Let alone thinking of making them. We forget the army of people that made it happen. The jug was also very thoroughly built. Everything was a cast aluminium or steel arm for mechanical bits. Very few pressed tin things. So nice when you can get a close look at these aircraft. That is a rare treat indeed. It's very cool to share.
Do not hear dog even with headphones on. At least your output volume is up. Most aren't. 47s are my #4 in favorites. Thanks for posting some very interesting facts about this cool fighter.
Outstanding video, Greg! I have become fascinated by the P-47 since your original series on it, so when I saw this one come out I was quite excited. You’re taking us along on a voyage of discovery. Thank you for that.
I’ve learned so much from this channel and my interest in WW2 aviation was re-kindled. Thanks Greg. No one does research like you except for maybe lazer pig😂
Hi Greg, as a model builder with an interest in the technical and historical aspects of things, I have a lot of research materials with lots of up-close photos and somewhat detailed discussion of the various production variants (if you can find the 'Detail in Scale' books, I highly recommend them). The antennas on the rear stabilizer look to me like modern avionics equipment rather than tail warning radar equipment. This is thesis is further aided by the thought that this plane is airworthy. Also, I've often wondered why there were angle indicator decals on the flaps of the P-47 kits I've built in the past, which you can see clearly in your walk-around video. The fact that the flaps do not have simple settings for takeoff, landing, and combat explain the reason for the pilot to need some visual reference. As always, great video! Thank you for sharing with us all!
Howdy Greg! Just found your channel and noticed a very familiar airplane in the thumb nail! The P47 in the museum is one of I think 4 flying examples with a working turbo system, real useful up there at 6000ft field elevation. Another super neat and rare thing at the museum is the P38. It also has working Turbos. I have been volunteering at that museum since I was twelve so I love seeing coverage of it and glad you seemed to have a fun time! Hope you come back and do videos on some of the other unique birds!
Next time, or more correctly every time I'm in Colorado Springs, I'm going there to get footage for a video. There is just so much there to talk about.
@@GregsAirplanesandAutomobiles Exactly! They all have pretty unique stories too if you get into specifics. I would suggest the P38 or the F3A as a great next video from there!
A fantastic museum. I don't know if you saw it, but in hangar 3 they have a complete P47 engine and supercharger displayed without any panels or framing
I know, that's probably why the wife doesn't let me leave the house with a card with that kind of spending power. Worse, there was another table with a P-47 Elevator built into it. I wanted that too.
