Thursdacid - a few Cirklon patterns for the Eurorack 

Thanks! I appreciate you listening in, and returning to it.

Thanks RIMAR Tracks

@@LukeKillen What filter are using for the accents etc? I don't have modular, but was wondering if i could do something similar with my sem pro.

@@Synth2000 I was using the Doepfer A105-6 SEM filter clone, so you can definitely get something similar out of you SEM pro. THE VCO will be a bit different though has i recall using a WMD/SSF Spectrum VCO. A fast attack/decay envelope with a fairly exponential curve , and the ability to modulate the decay length is pretty important to this sound as well as being able to send subtle cut off changes to the filter per note.

@@LukeKillen Thanks, it reminded me to the Sem clearly - and I have Cirklon too so i will try it very soon. Very interesting!

@@Synth2000 I love the SEM too. I have a couple of SEM clone filters and have always wanted a SEM Pro. or Dual SEM. Such musical Synths.

Thanks, It's a great sequencer. I'm sure you'll love it.

Cheers Dualtrx

Thanks. The way I work is to build a complete patch and a full rhythm with lots of modulation opportunities patched to the Cirklon. Then i tend to make loads of variation with edits to each scene. Later I’ll arrange and delete bits that don’t work so well.

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Phnaf Phnaf!

Thanks Scott. I always loved early electro hip-hop from the mid 80s, so it probably shows here.

@@LukeKillen Big time Luke. I would love to hear you rip a track that expresses that kind of sound in a bigger way. I'd love to find out what your viewers would think. I'm willing to bet you would get huge watch time numbers from it.

Yes, the euro is just making sounds

Haha yep, I do use it and love it, but i generally keep this channel about the 12RU eurorack or small system patches. I always use the Cirklon for live shows and I love making dance music with it. It's a spectacular sequencer. Thanks for the comments. Regarding the A and B controllers. Yep. they are just sending Midi CCs to the send of a reverb and Delay in my DAW. You may note that a couple of times the DAW didn't listen to the CC and no effect was heard. I think that was to do wit the ranges which i set in the DAW.

Thanks Russel. I send each part to the DAW live as i patch with 6-8 channels direct from the Modular, where i use FX sends and process as needed also live as i patch. Sometimes i will buss the Drums as a group or the whole stereo two buss to my 500 series rack for processing. So pretty much everything I hear as i patch is via my DAW. Essentially my DAW is being treated as a mixer with FX sends i guess.

A combo of straight from the VCAs at low level output into my DAW and line level output from I/O modules. usually 8 channels into the DAW so i can apply reverb, delay and processing live to the patch.

Thanks M. Wansart. P3 patterns for the AUX and mute possibilities.

To me it seemed a waste of HP. I don't always use the Cirklon for my eurorack so the desktop BOB made sense. also the eurobob cable is just a ribbon cable as far as i know which didn't seen very safe to me.

Hmm. I figured the printer cable could work with the Euro bob. Maybe I’m wrong. Can I ask a couple more questions? What cheeks are you using? They look smaller(which I want) than the ones in the store. Are there any modules that you consider must-have’s for integrating the Cirklon? I’m thinking that clock multiplier/dividers, EG’s(though Colin will hopefully be releasing an updated firmware in the next decade ;)).... Thanks for the reply btw.

I made the side cheeks myself from Australian Spotted Gum floor boards which I shaped and then sawed in half to make them 9mm thick.

Luke Killen Nice! That’s exactly what I’m going to do. Was it easy to find the appropriate screws?

I used the screws straight from the Cirklon rack ears :)

Thanks Justin it's a Braids VCO in 3xSaw mode going through a modulated Twin peaksVCO in Bandpass mode. Frequency central X envelope effective both a VCA and Frequency of the Twin peaks. Twin peaks is also being modulated by an LFO.

Probably will be tommy, but it will almost certainly be land fill years before you Cirklon stops working.

@@LukeKillen I can't argue that point.... Enjoy that wonderful sequencer you lucky dog...

@@tommyg5095 You'll be up soon.

@@LukeKillen It would be nice... gotta still be patient

Thanks Ben, All synthesis is from the Eurorack.

Sure, It's' all from the Eurorack with exception of the Reverb and Delay.

Via the Cirklon CVIO. The Cirklon has 8 Gates and 16 CV I/O as well as MIDI and USB I/O

It will be worth the wait no doubt. The drums on this patch are made up from various modules....its a few weeks (and many patches) back now but if i look at the lights i see that the kick is a Noise engineering Basimilus Iteratus, the Snare is from a Mutable instruments peaks, and i think it is being filtered through a saturated WMD/SSF Pole Zero with a short EG effecting cutoff for snap. The hats are almost certainly one of the VCO's tuned and then a bit of noise added to the FM input. and filtered through a high pass or band pass filter. The decay section of an envelope is modulated by the cirklon to make open high hats the hats have got a bunch of other modulations from the cirklon probably pitch and amplitude modulations of the VCA ....beyond that i can't quite remember. Hope that helps.

Thanks. The Cirklon is only sequencing. It doesn't make any sound, so of course, you can make drum sounds however you like. In this case the eurorack is making the sounds.

@@LukeKillen aye yea just found out it was a sequencer, still tho I’m really curious how he arranges his drums

*how you arrange your drums

@@notmars7993 I build loads of sequences, as scenes, then build bridging sequences to make them work together. I use P3 patterns to maximize individual control over each drum part.

A P3 pattern can be 256 steps. but that pattern can be running at a pace from anywhere from 1 step per bar to 64th Triplets. A song containing many scenes (made up of patterns on mutiple tracks) is only limited by the memory of the Cirklon.

I see... seems like a very versatile machine. Might have to start saving up!

Sure, just sign up for the waiting list. by the time yours is ready you'll have the cash

I'm using the VCIO box attached to the Cirklon. it has 16 configurable CV/gate I/Os tha tthe Cirklon is sequencing.

You have the best name on the internet.

Luke Killen hey luke, im on the waiting list, do you love this cirklon, is it as awesome as i think it is?

Yeah, it's totally worth it. The wait gives you plenty of time to save up and ease the pain of the price tag.

Yes it's all Eurorack. FX are in DAW.

@@LukeKillen Is there one polyphonic module or did you have to create your own polysynth by adding multiple VCOs, filters, envelopes, etc to your rack? Feel free not to answer if I'm annoying. I don't believe I've yet seen a rack of that relatively small size that has drums, bass and a poly synth. That's insane and I don't even want to think of the money I'll dump into that once I buy my first semi modular or modular device. Sounds sick but that's a given, I'm just intrigued by how cool that is, and that we can build these ourselves...

@@_EightySix So there is a bunch or VCOs, VCAs, VCF's LFO's, Sequencers, Envelopes, Switches, etc. in the rack. So i just make multiple parts. there isn't any polyphonic parts though, but it is foe all intents and purposes multitimbral depending on how you connect up the modules.

No, I don't have any Tiptop drum modules. It's a while ago but it looks like Snare is MI Peaks, Kick is Basimilus Iteratus with a EG effecting pitch. Hats are a VCO FM modulate filtered and modulated by noise. A modulated EG effecting amplitude and filter make for open and closed hats.

Luke Killen my compliments,beautifoul!

Thanks, SELEKTROw, it only exist here for now. A version might come out at some point.

It's a while ago so I can't remember. i'm also not sure which parts you mean. The pads are almost certainly a Braids running through a filter. the Acid could be WMD/SSF, probably run through a Doepfer A106-5 VCF because it's a wikkid Acid filter

I've meant bass part, it's so fat and versatile

Oh cool. Then it's probably the Variable output from a WMD/SSF Spectrum VCO. Defiantly running through a Doepfer A106-5 in lowpass mode and probably Make noise maths as a EG for both the VCA and Filter cuttoff. Cheers. Cirklon is also doing a lot of modulations on the EG and Filter

It's a while ago so it's hard to remember but i think based on the LED's it's a Basimulis Iteratus, Probably filtered and with an EG or two modulating it and the filter.

thanks for the info. which EG you use with BIA?

Usually something fast and or exponential like Maths/Function or sometimes I use the Frequency Central X Envelope.

Gracias por su atención :)

Luke Killen gracias a ti por compartir 👍

It seems to me that Hapax has only 16 tracks with 8 patterns each compared to Cirklon's 64 Tracks, each with no hard limit on the number of patterns. Hapax- 4x gate, 4x cv outputs and two cv inputs Cirklon-16x CV outputs, 8x gate CV/inputs and 16x MUX for analogue drum machines. Pairing a FH02 to a Hapax adds 8hp of unnessasary space to your eurorack rack, which gains 8 more CVs to the Hapax, tying up the USB midi port in the process. Cirlkon can do exactly this too, which is great, but it doesn't need to because it already has all the I/O, that Hapex can get out of that. Let's continue to compare I/O. Hapax-MIDI 3x out, 1x MIDI in, 1 x usb MIDI with 1x 16 channels. 1x midi USB host. Cirklon-5x MIDI output, 5x MIDI input, 1x MIDI sync, 1x USB MIDI with 6x virtual port (16 channels each). 1x USB Host. I'm not sure how tight the Hapex is, im' sure it's great, but Cirklon is widely known as having the tightest tinming out there. Probably best to not go into the nature of Cirklon's Inception like internal sequencing opportunities, because, it's extremely modular compared to the way that Sqaurp do things. Especially since there are huge posibilities for intertrack modulations which are limited with less tracks and aren't actuallt possible with a Hapax as far as i can tell. However, i recognise that most people just like to step sequence 16 step pattern techno, so it does the trick 100% of the time for them and it's cheaper. I'd recommend reading the Cirklon Manual to understand why it is so highly regarded before you decide that it has somehow been beaten in an imaginary race by another Sequencer. static1.squarespace.com/static/5808f139b8a79b2b73259cd1/t/603a19570aa63f6cd3b69e62/1614420320870/cirklon-manual-1.20.pdf If you prefer learning via Video, check out @splitradix excellent vieo tutorials, to see SOME of the amazing sequencing options availalbe to a Cirklon User. ru-vid.com/group/PLNEW7foH6qsAozs9VJoUlg7D7XMJvmpGX

@@LukeKillen hmm i owned cirklon. thats better than reading a manual. cirklon was like using a scientific instrument, no fun at all. so it modulates another track. how often do i do that? also do you know how big the cv breakout for cirklon is? hapax is my favorite sequencer of all i have tried. including cirklon. its simply a joy to use. and techno sucks anyway lol

Good to hear your personal opinion about your sequencer, on my channel.

@@LukeKillen are you mad i told the truth? im allowed to do that? cirklon is not necessary and not fun and users arent usually all that talented. youre kind of luke warm yourself, not terrible, not outstading. youre definitely not a killer and your sequencer is unnecessarily complicated but might give you an identity and you love it for that

Thanks for sharing your anxiety and personal criticism of my channel. @@alien_brain

shut the fuck up

why would he do that Eisenhower303