Tidal Hi-Fi or Hi-Fi Plus? It's an EASY choice

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@DarkoAudio 8 месяцев назад

**CORRECTION** The Tidal Hifi and Hifi Plus pricing mentioned in this video isn't German 🇩🇪. It's Portuguese 🇵🇹.

@bauxi11 8 месяцев назад

In Austria Hifi is 47% more expensive. 🤔

@SimonPepper 8 месяцев назад

Why does Tidal offer different prices for exactly the same services in different EU countries? I pay €19.99/month for HiFi+ in Ireland, which is the same as in Germany, France, etc. The level of tax applied is the same in Portugal as Ireland. There are no physical, i.e. people elements in the delivery of the services in the other regions, so why different. This breaks the EU rules. So you take the Portuguese prices for HiFi+ as at €13.99/month you are getting it cheaper then nearly anywhere else.

@simonfrost7561 8 месяцев назад

Hifi plus is £19.99 in the UK no real reason for the twice as expensive as Portugal's price that I can see any ideas?

@jonthompson8807 8 месяцев назад

I still don't get why everyone is allergic to Amazon music HD. Why am I the dumb one?

@ValdemarDeMatos 8 месяцев назад

In Spain is also HiFi: 10,99€ and HiFi Plus: 19,99€ 😳

@klaverro 8 месяцев назад

This video seems to be about selling Tidal, not about which streaming platform offers the best sound quality for your system. That SQ depends on many things (and everyone should mainly trust their own ears...). I stopped using Tidal last year because Qobuz's sound quality is better IMO. Who wants to use Tidal Connect at home or outside when you have Roon and Roon ARC? Roon radio also does well with Qobuz and Qobuz offers 100 million songs in 100% CD quality. They even have 240,000 albums in high resolution. For some gaps in their catalog I use Spotify or my CD collection.

@medonk12rs 8 месяцев назад

Qobuz try you must. Better it is.

@stevecohen11 8 месяцев назад

I use Qobuz over Tidal, prefer the sound quality versus Tidal. Plus paying monthly subscription fee of $12.99 Seems like a good deal to me.

@Leon-lg7zm 8 месяцев назад

Qobuz is the best for sound quality

@Wuppie62 8 месяцев назад

Yes, but in 2024 they really should provide a 'connect' or other wireless remote control option. To have to get up from of my lounge chair to manually select another track is just soooo 70's vinyl-like. :)

@toddsullivan3234 8 месяцев назад

Not sure what your situation is, but the Qobuz app allows me to control everything via iphone or ipad, music search/selections and volume levels. @@Wuppie62

@ericjensen9091 8 месяцев назад

I'm new at this. I bought a Bluesound Node X and use Qobuz. I use the Qobuz app on my Android phone. I had to set up it up initially with my laptop. I use my integrated amplifier remote for volume control, never seem to need the Node's supplied remote. For song/album selection I simply use my smartphone. I never need to get up for any reason, never bother with the Node. But it looks cool with the lighted controls on top. I don't understand why anyone needs Tidal "connect", or Roon. This is too complicated for my caveman brain I guess.

@pinkyfloydyfan1 7 месяцев назад

I don't think so.

@MrRAW1968 8 месяцев назад

In the Netherlands the prices are much higher, 10,99 versus 19,99. The choice is even easier then.

@RickRolling-tc7vb 8 месяцев назад

Thanks John, it helps us to know what we're getting for our money when we're first approaching these platforms. I think they're great for discovery , and to give a little bit to the artist when we play their songs, but my curated collection of music will always be offline and local: I can't abide the arbitrary substitions and deletions that come with the cloud.

@thunderdemonlover Месяц назад

Thank you so much

@Bikeaddict4235 8 месяцев назад

How are you getting hi res from your phone to your home gear ? I noticed when I use tidal recently via Bluetooth to my home kit or headphones I get a message telling me quality is reduced. Go easy on me I’m new to this 😂

@jjavalon 8 месяцев назад

The Connection function just “tells” your connected streamer which song to stream in the highest quality possible. You don’t stream from the phone, you use your Tidal app as a remote for your streamer.

@LakerTriangle 8 месяцев назад

Used Tidal for a few years till the recent price change.. Silly move IMO on their part.

@jaronefarrell3047 8 месяцев назад

Hi I currently have Apple Music on my iPhone 15 pro would I get all the benefits from using tidal hifi plus to go along with my btr7 and dunu sa6 mk2

@richiereyn 8 месяцев назад

You hit the nail on the head. I find that it's the master they use that makes much more noticeable difference to the quality of reproduction. When there is the opportunity to stream the original 16bit or the hi-res "remaster," a lot of the time I find the 16bit version to be miuch more dynamic which is what I much prefer. I am glad I bought my CD's years ago before all this remastering, brick wall limiting and compression took place. This is where, in my opinion, streaming services fall down. You can in most cases, only stream the version that is currently allowed by the record label. Whilst they can claim to remaster in hi-res, there is nothing hi-res about a recording that has been butchered for the sake of making it as loud as can be. Another thing that has been highlighted by "Wings Of Pegasus" channel on RU-vid, they are now taking it upon themselves to autotune the vocals when they remaster, which is a total tragedy. So you're not even hearing the singers natural voice anymore. When will this madness end?

@KCYT2010 8 месяцев назад

I compared Spotify, Tidal and Qobuz in my treated room with my all Benchmark Media system and Paradigm signature speakers. Qobuz was so much better, no matter what resolution. Tidal was just all over the place, horrible clipping and distortion. Spotify sounded the radio in my car. I couldn't care less about what apps they offer if a service sounds bad.

@klaverro 8 месяцев назад

Same here. Ditched Tidal after finding out at a demo that Qobuz offers a more natural sounding quality. In my room Qobuz (and Roon) sometimes even matches the SQ of my cd’s (using Hegel amp+cd and Dynaudio Confidence setup).

@octaviangrigorovici9812 8 месяцев назад

For some people having surround systems at home, there's also Dolby Atmos, which you get in the Plus tier. Yes, I know. Lossy. But trust me, a lot of people new in the hobby who have Atmos systems at home whose stereo resolve isn't the most convincing, will get a thrill out of those Armos tracks. In my view, that counts for something.

@giovannialfano5979 7 месяцев назад

I tried a couple of times to switch back to Spotify, but my ears advised me to come back to Tidal. Believe it or not, it's like night and day. Obviously it depends on the quality of your gears also.

@KenBlive 8 месяцев назад

£19.99 in Uk - so no thank you can you ask Tidal why the prices are different depending on where you live ? - Qobuz subscriber

@jamesfarrow6752 8 месяцев назад

And £25.99 per month if you sign up from an Apple device. Absolute ripoff.

@jakobgooijer 8 месяцев назад

If I have to choose between Tidal hifi or + I choose Qobuz

@RapIsLife2000 7 месяцев назад

Tidal has been the best for me at discovering new music. Spotify feels like I'm paying to be bombarded with ads of whatever music has released and has paid Spotify.

@666dualsport 6 месяцев назад

ive never had a ad in 5 years

@gregbailer8701 8 месяцев назад

After 40 years of re-purchasing my favorite music about every 10 years from (70 Vinyl), (80 tapes), (90 CD), (00 MP3) I am NOT going to buy my music (yet again) in Hi-Res format! Fool me (4) times...that's enough.

@TimvanderLeeuw 8 месяцев назад

I love streaming music services, am perfectly happy with CD quality audio so I'll pay for that rate, but that collection of CDs will stay with me for at least it is actually mine! What's on a streaming service can be taken off the service just like that and disappear, tough luck on you. So hang on to your collection!

@jonaspetersen7327 8 месяцев назад

Also consider how you are listening. If you mostly listen on wireless headphones without LDAC codec or similar, you dont really need anything better than mp3 320 kbit

@delvalle9256 6 месяцев назад

It’s even an easier choice now …. Come April 10, in the US at least, Tidal Hifi Plus will be $10.99 … tidal cd quality and hi res will be combined into one price / tier 😂 Spotify HIFI no more

@jeb1225 6 месяцев назад

Same for me in the UK too, result!

@JamesJames-qj6nn 6 месяцев назад

Got that email from Tidal today so looks like I will only be using Spotify for the algorithm👍

@Rumeel12708 6 месяцев назад

No way! Will this be for everyone? I just signed up for the 60 day trial for $2 for the Hi-Fi. Wooooo well that's great news, I am still keeping my YT music for those unofficial tracks!!!!!

@60zeller 7 месяцев назад

Ex Tidal user. Dont like the MQA crap but manly there support sucks. Been with Qbuz for 2 years. Much prefer

@colefreddy1 8 месяцев назад

I stopped using Tidal for a while now. Back to playing cd's and personal rips. Done with all those terrible remasters which are brickwalled like crazy. Hunting down for OG or repressings of cd's is quite fun

@arslanmalik151 4 месяца назад

For years Spotify promised a high res option was coming. Well it's 2024 and still haven't released a higher quality version.

@ulrikmortensen9426 8 месяцев назад

Tried Tidal a couple of years ago. Did not like the sound, kind of to edgy and”white”. Now on Qobuz and the sound is very natural and organic. I stream through Volumio

@qboogie 8 месяцев назад

I have noticed this also, when streaming from my android phone via USB into my DAC/amp. I have no explanation for it, however

@BobbyBass-x6i 8 месяцев назад

I tried Tidal along with Qobuz, Spotify and Amazon music along with Apple Music. I Chose Qobuz. It had the best combination of sound quality, selection, price and ease of use IMO. Thanks for the video. Peace, love and music!

@Audiodreamer192-24 8 месяцев назад

Tidal hifi plus is great! It has most music in HI-RES. I’ve been using Tidal almost since its very beginning. It uses full sized flac files now on connect but also retains the MQA Which there are a lot of haters, I however am not . I like the MQA’s and in some cases even more than the HI-RES flac . Despite the uncalled for hate MQA is the only format that considers the time domain throughout the entire delivery. I used to have Spotify as well but have long since cancelled it as there was no point paying for something I didn’t use anymore.

@metalmaggot673 23 дня назад

im paying 5 bucks for the student plan which is tidals hi-fi plus =) getting all the hi-res for cheap ahaha

@smirkingguru 8 месяцев назад

Tidal sounds awesome. To top it off Tidal gives 50% discount to military active duty and veterans. Approx. $12US. Great deal!

@joecampos66 8 месяцев назад

Veterans discount will keep me at Tidal for HiFi Plus.

@GinoColombi 8 месяцев назад

I'm an audiophile, apart from DJ and music producer and I've been using Tidal HiFi Plus for almost 4 years, definitely recommend it

@johnnypiper1717 4 месяца назад

I been looking to swap fron youtube music to either Apple music or tidal I don't have any I phone accessories and heard both was good quality music. I don't pay for youtube music so hopefully tidal or apple is better quality if I buy the monthly rate

@gregoryeiding5395 8 месяцев назад

One thing you didn’t address is whether or not paying for the hi res tier pays the artists more. I love that tidal is somewhat transparent with which artists are receiving the money from me each month. As you’ve noted before $20/month is dirt cheap when you think about what someone paid in the 90s. So if the artist is getting more and I’m getting maybe a few extra streams in high res I think it’s a win win.

@ahhhdeosmile 8 месяцев назад

Good analysis. I question how the high rez, for example 24/96 and 24/192 are created. Are they simply over sampled or somehow rezzed up from the cd base quality? What information exists to know this ? How much normalization is applied?

@GoufinAround_ 3 месяца назад

You can't add data to make a cd-quality lossless file a hi-res lossless file.

@D1N02 8 месяцев назад

I went for Qobuz. It's European, no MQA. cheaper than Tidal in the Netherlands. Qobuz is slowly getting better. Recently added song radio and recommendations are getting better. Qobuz will come with a connect function eventually. You didn't mention Amazon.

@NIAtoolkit 8 месяцев назад

The main sell for Tidal HiFi Plus is Dolby Atmos Music, that’s how they got me. This may sound sacrilege but I’m fully embracing surround sound

@stevenrietveld 8 месяцев назад

In The Netherlands it is €10,99 and €19,99 (from the iOS app €13,99 and €25,99) 😕

@peterlarkin762 8 месяцев назад

Yep, same in Ireland... and most of Europe.

@perling9 7 месяцев назад

In germany tidal hifi goes for 10,99€ and hifi plus for 19,99

@fjosh6 8 месяцев назад

You forgot to mention that hifi plus also pays 10% of your monthly subscription fee to your most listened to artist each month. While not a benefit for the end user and most aren't going to care, some of us do.

@DarkoAudio 8 месяцев назад

I didn't forget to mention it. That 10% payout programme was discontinued last year.

@mayssebmasenya9132 8 месяцев назад

Oh. That’s a shame. That was one of the reasons I chose Hi-Fi Plus.

@fjosh6 8 месяцев назад

@@DarkoAudio That was the only reason I was subscribed. I'm switching down a tier today, I appreciate you. Maybe I'll even just switch to RU-vid to get rid of the RU-vid ads.

@ibassnote 8 месяцев назад

I simply cannot believe in 2024 I cannot stream Tidal in Japan? Japan, that enormous country of storied audiophile legend. It simply makes no sense at all!

@davidnunn1306 8 месяцев назад

Yep, easy choice, it's Qobuz Sublime for me.

@amosh3119 8 месяцев назад

I’d like to point out, at least in UK the Tidal app on Fire TV, Android TV and the Samsung TV app are NOT restricted to videos only. All your audio and video stuff is there under My Collection and the audio only content is also available either by search or by scrolling further down the Home Screen. As a long time Tidal user and Roon user I have to say I’m now using Tidal connect 90% of the time. It is just so convenient. Auto scrolling lyrics on your iOS device while Tidal connect plays via your hifi is a neat feature. Finally I’ll add that Tidal does eventually learn your listening preferences and the resulting custom mixes and recommendations are now great.

@bingobongo8309 8 месяцев назад

I changed last month from spotify to Qobuz...AMAZING!!! I was not sure, what to choose...Tidal/Qobuz. After some reviews I choose Qobuz, because it gots all I need and it got a clear communication in a each song, if I hear "CD" or "HiRes" quality.

@mariodrv 8 месяцев назад

No, Qobuz is the choice, if you want best sound quality.

@patricedecourcy4505 8 месяцев назад

I personally didn't head the difference. My problem with Tidal is that the music that I listen to is very poorly organized.

@Ferbeldeyberb 8 месяцев назад

Pricing is 10.99/19.99 in the uk, ridiculous!

@woody7232 8 месяцев назад

I'm not normally a fan of algorithms but those suggesting similar music to the one currently playing have introduced me to some wonderful new music. I don't know how the Roon algorithm compares but Tidal's New Arrivals, Daily Discovery and suggested new tracks (along with of course some great suggestions from one notable YT reviewer who introduced me to Alva Noto) have in the electronic music area introduced me to Craven Faults from Yorkshire, Föllakzoid from Chile and Svaneborg Kardyb from Denmark just in the last week.

@benm3152 8 месяцев назад

I used tidal for years. I now subscribe to qobus for the following reasons, no bill creap and most importantly it sounds better less compression and more natural sound. Tidal interference and algorithm is superior to qobus but for me the sound will always take priority.

@Phil_f8andbethere 7 месяцев назад

For me Tidal Hi-Fi is all I need. I use it to try out new (to me) music, and if I like it I buy it on CD. Problem with any streaming service, is that they often only have the latest re-mastered albums on there. In a lot of cases Remastered = Louder and Harsher, so I prefer the original mastered versions on CD. Also, if some artist has a row with the record company or streaming service, my music collection isn't going to disappear overnight.

@astronav24 8 месяцев назад

Thanks John, a very helpful video; I've decided to step down to HiFi after seeing this. A saving almost as large as my annual Roon subscription.

@alch3mi5t. 4 месяца назад

I'm from the future as I post, but in the past when you read it. Stupid time. Now it is all plus. On my 2 months trial. defo keeping it. Not sure I can cancel my youtube sub, but feeling okay with the new Tidal pricing. Shaking up the game.

@sunewjenkuzo2835 4 месяца назад

I might use Tidal since they support artists more fairly with pay. YT music dosen't pay anyone well and Spotify is choking out its indie artists rather quickly now. Deezer is my next choice but they have a limit on how many artists I can follow.

@jedknutson8373 8 месяцев назад

I tried Qobuz trial period and just couldn't commit as it doesn't do two things Tidal does...1) doesn't have the artist's top tracks as an option, and 2) doesn't have similar artist radio which I think is great. you can only select albums from the artists which I thought sucked....also a biggie for me is if you have a student in college it's only 10.00/month for hi-fi-plus

@stevebenson3283 8 месяцев назад

I noticed an NAD M66 in the background. Is there a review of that coming soon?

@peterkemper6999 8 месяцев назад

Hi John, What do you think of Deezer? An annual subscription will cost you € 108 in the Netherlands. The streams are in CD quality. The music ilibrary is huge. But Deezer is never mentioned in all kinds of reviews. A little more about TIDAL. ( I have a trial subscription ) TIDAL sounds very LOUD!!!! At least on my audio equipment. ( NAD C388/BluOs 2i module/ Castle Avon 4 LS)

@harry-callahan-aka-dirty-harry 8 месяцев назад

I think nobody talks about Deezer because of its small market share. As a Spotify and Deezer user for over 5 years, I can say that I have always found the same albums on Deezer that Spotify offered. Unlike Amazon Music, which has missing albums. I like rock, metal and blues and Deezer's collection is the same as Spotify's, at least in everything I listen to, and what's more, Deezer sounds great in CD quality.

@kogepladen71 8 месяцев назад

Tidal Hifi costs 14.6 Euros here in Denmark. Dont really get the huge price differences in europe?

@mysoulflies 8 месяцев назад

10.99€ here in Spain.

@johnnypiper1717 4 месяца назад

I been wanting to switch from RU-vid music to either Apple music or Tidal. Those are the 2 I been debating on purchasing but can't decide, I have a andriod phone no apple products so can't decide which sounds best or if there about the same quality. What you think tidal or apple music

@DumfriesDik 4 месяца назад

I am in the same boat. I enjoy RU-vid so will continue to subscribe to that. But I am leaning towards Tidal because of connect as I have a CA CXN and the pricing structure has changed since this video!!

@jny5179 4 месяца назад

you might as well get tidal since you don't use iphone

@stephenmisener1659 3 месяца назад

I used ios for years, went back to android this year. I used apple music for about 2ish years. On android its pretty bad. The app has alot of issues, and it cuts out frequently. However i like apple music more than spotify. Recently ive been trying tidal and i think its on the right track. I didnt make the full switch to tidal because in order to easily transfer a playlist to tidal you have to pay, excluding the sub for tidal. That really rubbed me the wrong way so i didnt stick with tidal after the free month i got.

@mehmetcamat4458 8 месяцев назад

I fully agree with you with your 3 points on tidal and also regarding the hifi plus I also think its not worth the money for just few hires flac files which is a very small percent. I also use Qobuz only under Roon. It has more hires files than tidal.

@DarkoAudio 8 месяцев назад

I don't suppose you have a source for the number of hi-res files on Qobuz? I think many of us would like to see that. 🙂

@mehmetcamat4458 8 месяцев назад

No unfortunately I don’t but I converted a tidal playlist to a Qobuz playlist and many songs after being converted into Qobuz were in hires. When I looked at the same playlist with hifi plus subscription that particular playlist had very few hires files In tidal. I don’t know may be it was due to a transition time from mqa to hires

@l67swap1 8 месяцев назад

Im a hifi plus subscriber , works great with my mola mola tambaqui DAC and also my other devices ... I love it 😊

@PCRoss2469 6 месяцев назад

The main (only ?) reason to use Tidal is how they pay artists. It's getting close to fair. The others are a JOKE. I refuse to use anything else (and yes I'm on HiFi Plus). If you listen to the Rickie Lee Jones Compilation Volume 1 on Tidal, reportedly in Hi-res I can hear the difference to most other available versions (not as good as my original Vinyl version ). It's definitely a small diff, and subjective.

@DarkoAudio 6 месяцев назад

What makes Tidal fairer?

@PCRoss2469 6 месяцев назад

@@DarkoAudio Basically they pay double what the others pay

@DarkoAudio 6 месяцев назад

Do you have a source for this info, please?

@PCRoss2469 6 месяцев назад

@@DarkoAudio yeah I tried to post the link but it kept getting deleted. Farout magazine / website (UK) “which streaming service pays musicians the most?”

@PCRoss2469 6 месяцев назад

So a quick calculation to make a point (you might say labour the point). Let’s say a CD costs 10 Euro and contains 12 tracks and you buy this and play the CD 20 times in your possession of it. That’s 0.042 per play. Tidal pays 25% of this which seems ok to me, but the others are closer to 10%. No wonder everyone is pushing Vinyl.

@hawgwild5456 8 месяцев назад

Totally agree with your thoughts and the lack of value of Hi-Fi Plus.

@MLantier 8 месяцев назад

I'm currently using TIDAL and Qobuz. I like that TIDAL doubles the royalty that it pays the artists over everyone else. I also enjoy the music that TIDAL picks for me when I choose "go to track radio". Occasionally, I've noticed that Qobuz might have an old esoteric album that I want to hear. Occasionally, Qobuz might offer a better version of the recording. But, if I can only choose one, I choose TIDAL.

@larryh9525 8 месяцев назад

Here's the easiest way to get a Roon-like transition from your mobile phone to your home stereo system without using Roon. You will need a Wiim (Mini, Pro, or Plus) and MConnect on your mobile device. MConnect will play locally on the device, then when you wish to connect to your home system, choose "Play to" and make a UPNP connection to the Wiim and you're done. Very similar to what you're doing with the FiiO. All without the monthly cost for Roon and $1,000 for the FiiO. This only works with Tidal and Qobuz, but since the video was about Tidal, I figured it was worth passing along.

@CeeJay591 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for this info - very much appreciated

@jesperhaastrup 8 месяцев назад

try JPLAY, same concept just more streamlined

@JoseFerreira-zb7wh 8 месяцев назад

The main reason why i subscribed Tidal (instead of its competitors) is it is the streaming platform that pays artists the best/ most.

@RitmoMusiquero 8 месяцев назад

but tidal only has 11% of the digital market. In the end, the one that pays the most is Spotify, which is why it reaches close to 60% of the digital public. You earn more money because there are more people.

@JoseFerreira-zb7wh 8 месяцев назад

@@RitmoMusiquero i don't mean globally of course. of course if you have more customers, in the global scheme you pay more. (and earn much more also) i mean per stream. big artists earn more because they get a big part of the cake without even being listened to. of course that part of the cake comes at the cost of smaller artists that earn less and less. spotify is the worst in this context. of course the app itself, layout, algorythm etc. is a completely different story.

@MSGjk8 8 месяцев назад

Thoroughly enjoy the standard hi fi tier with a nice 40% military discount. Sounds wonderful on my vintage gear thru Topping e30 dac. None of the other services offers this discount.

@MTCAS-gv7hf 7 месяцев назад

Been using Tidal HIFI Plus for years but switched to Qobuz now. There are sooo many older metal albums on Tidal that only plays in 96kbps AAC. And the reply from Tidal is only that " the album is not recorded in a higher quality". Complete nonsense though as the same albums are all in Qoobuz at CD quality. Shame on Tidal !!

@dangrass 8 месяцев назад

So, I just ended my 2 months trial with Tidal hi-fi Plus. While I guess it may be worth the additional money for the Plus tier, there's a bigger issue with Tidal. While Apple and Spotify (other's I've used) have been pretty much agnostic on the content they provide, Tidal is to a great extent a vehicle for Jay Z, Beyonce, Doja Cat, and various others who make "music" in this genre, to push their new releases. It's actually pretty extreme. While I had no issues with the technical quality of what Tidal was offering, the constant use of this paid service as an advertising medium for a small group of "artists" was really not ok. I'm currently trialing Apple music and find the quality to be more than acceptable, but without the persistent bias that Tidal had. Spotify might be another good choice, but from what I understand the technical quality of their platform is not up to the level of Apple or Tidal.

@johnpajestka5022 8 месяцев назад

I started with Tidal hi-fi because USB Audio Pro used it. Got a Wiim Pro with Tidal connect as well. It sounds great to me and never felt the need to upgrade. I buy the hi-res or sometimes CD if I find it super cheap used. Some albums I just want to own.

@amosperrine1909 8 месяцев назад

The hi rez question I want answered is are they true hi Rez or simply upsampled?

@steve-ey4ol 7 месяцев назад

Rather worry about numbers let get back to the music - apple sounds good to me would never touch shitty Spotify as this company is not for the music lovers you only have to look at the platform to see how much is pushed in one app so much clutter- I want a music app that just showcase music and for that Apple takes the crown.

@uglybob7505 8 месяцев назад

Had Tidal for a while and when I started getting into hi-res audio I upgraded to the max package and have NOT regretted it one moment. I listen to it via a WiiM Mini hooked up via toslink to a Fosi DAC. Through my beyterdynamic DT770 Pro cans it sounds out of this world.

@amir2salah 8 месяцев назад

What about Deezer? I mean deezer has also FLAC songs what difference

@chodgetx 8 месяцев назад

You frequently mention that this hi-fi hobby is budget independent for each listener. For someone who spends thousands on gear, particularly headphones, it’s worth five bucks a month to find those 10 songs where the instrument placement is a little clearer or you hear that symbol that you can’t hear in lower res. A spreadsheet can’t tell you how to get the biggest smile listening to Aja again.

@thedroneofthebagpipes4926 6 месяцев назад

In the UK the pricing is £10.99 and £19.99 per month for Tidal Hifi and Hifi Plus respectively, I’m sorry but that’s just gouging.

@noudockeloen 6 месяцев назад

But in april its 10,99 fore tidal plus

@kjbiz 8 месяцев назад

Gave up Tidal for Qobuz. Pretty happy and transfer from Qobuz to Apple music for in car play. Roon at home…and vinyl 😊

@TimvanderLeeuw 8 месяцев назад

I subscribe to both Tidal and Qobuz, because Tidal has the better interface and collection but Qobuz sounds better to me, even with my very modest gear. That might be due to the way the respective apps interact with the audio APIs of the OS on which they run, but even with very modest gear I can hear the difference. I just want to have the fuller library of song radio of Tidal but also want to sometimes enjoy the higher quality of Qobuz.

@Milo_Molnar 8 месяцев назад

Amazon music unlimited - great sound quality.

@TheWeardale1 8 месяцев назад

it's what i use, but the functionality via the Bluos is horrendous!

@Milo_Molnar 8 месяцев назад

@@TheWeardale1 I agree.

@KS-yy2fu 8 месяцев назад

@TheWeardale1 it is and they never changes though getting complain eversince

@DakTirCue 8 месяцев назад

@@TheWeardale1 I use HEOS instead of Bluos (Marantz streamer).. and the UI with that was bad as well. ... but the latest upgrade has some improvements. Amazon has ultra hi def and also atmos (if you are into that for 2 channel listening). Since I have amazon prime..its a no-brainer today slightly more for their unlimited hi def audio. But yes ...baby steps with the HEOS integration...likely the same type issues as Bluos.

@RogerBergqvist 8 месяцев назад

Qobuz. Tidal was good when it was Norwegian. When Jay-Z became a partner, everything went south. I had Spotify almost from the time they were formed, but the sound never evolved. Qobuz is a fabulously good streaming service.

@bergennorway 8 месяцев назад

WIMP 😚 Tidal Jay-Z 😒

@NazriB 7 месяцев назад

Lies again? Teddy Bear AMWF Car

@NosEL34 6 месяцев назад

I'm a Quboz man myself but I think it's funny you blame Jay-Z for whatever Tidal's problems are 😂

@Pirxel 5 месяцев назад

Thanks, your video made them merge both tiers for the price of the cheaper one :D

@yegscaper6444 8 месяцев назад

Pet Shop Boys 🤩. A man after my own heart.

@jacquesduplessis6175 8 месяцев назад

Back when I was a young boy, we got lossless audio in boxes, cd boxes, and it lasted the lifetime of your listening attention. Some would even dare to say the music was better back then👀😲

@robinmarples5198 8 месяцев назад

Still qubuz

@mattybryan2011 7 месяцев назад

Ooh, Whipping Boy *AND* Secret Machines? Ah yes, a man of class...

@anxiousappliance 5 месяцев назад

it looks like Tidal Hifi and Hifi plus are being merged in the US. Don't know what that means, but either there will be one lower price, or one higher price, depending on your previous service choice. LOL

@francoisdunord7169 8 месяцев назад

my easy choice is Qobuz ❤, great sound, great interface 🇳🇱

@TorToroPorco 8 месяцев назад

On my smartphones and tablets I tend to download the songs I like best onto my device so I’m not streaming them over the internet when I listen just to remove that variable from the listening experience and to avoid cellular costs or poor wifi connections.

@ntserver1 8 месяцев назад

TIDAL, I subscribe, the quality - yes. The UI is SHAT, I cannot delete from my playlist. I have emailed and suggested 'make it like like RU-vid', if it is free it has to work. When we pay we put up with all shat. I am a programmer, the amount of code I write to be controlled from my UI - you guess. Thank you

@bairdotv 8 месяцев назад

Long hold on playlist. Select Delete. (Edit. Ah you must mean delete from library - see what you mean)

@kzil 8 месяцев назад

The Roon integration keeps me on Tidal. If Spotify integrated to Roon, I'd shift to Spotify. This video made me downgrade from Hifi Plus to Hifi, though - thanks :)

@venvedam 8 месяцев назад

HiRes is emperor's new clothes for me. I have been in this game for long now. CD any day for me 💪

@mobill49 8 месяцев назад

Qobuz annual for me. Equivalent to £10.83 monthly. Hi-res not such a consideration now as I upsample via Chord Mscaler.

@kevinmoore9757 8 месяцев назад

I subscribed to TIDAL HiFi Plus because I appreciated the modest payout to an esoteric band I had streamed the most that month. Unfortunately, that program was cancelled with a whole lot less fanfare than it was launched with.

@MichaelHillis-h4z 8 месяцев назад

As of February 24, 2024, Logitech is shutting down mysqueezebox, leaving Tidal on LMS adrift. As a longtime Logitech Squeezebox fan (you have several videos over the last year alone attesting to this) how does the loss of Tidal on LMS factor into your recommendation of Tidal as a streaming service? It seems that Tidal refuses access to their API, which would allow the LMS community to develop an app to run on LMS for continued access to Tidal streams. A small drop in the bucket of Tidal users, I know, but disappointing nonetheless.

@IsaacChew 7 месяцев назад

Due to the squeezebox issue, I also lost the use of Deezer on my LMS based player. I have reluctantly switched to Spotify. Quboz is still not available in Singapore - their roll out is really slow.

@AlbaTech 8 месяцев назад

As an ex-subscriber, I still can't forgive Tidal for inflicting that failed lossy MQA codec on us when we were asking for the high res originals. It has taken them far too long to ditch that crap.

@PaulLembo 8 месяцев назад

Their original sin, and a tax on much hardware since.

@DucatiKozak 8 месяцев назад

Say what you will, some tracks sounded better with MQA magic, than their FLAC reissue, to my ears.

@oldaudionerd 8 месяцев назад

Or you could move on and listen to great music

@jonaspetersen7327 8 месяцев назад

And dont forget all the lying and false advertising claims about MQA being lossless..

@HeddwynEvans 8 месяцев назад

These videos are great John. I was torn between Apple Music (as an apple user) and tidal/qobuz. I hadn’t appreciated the power of tidal connect as a function. Works great with my node x and has resolved the argument. I’ve used SongShift to move playlists from apple to tidal and works great.

@johngutmanis3204 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for your observations very good to know! I have the WiiM pro using optical into Denafrips Ares12. I have to admit I now enjoy the music equally no matter the source, vinyl or CD, or Amazon music. The question is will the WiiM pro scale if I went to a Pontus12 or even a Terminator? Have you ever tried the WiiM pro with the Mola Mola DAC, I think you have one? Is it possible the WiiM scales with an uber high performance DAC? Could be a great episode, gather 3 or 4 cheap streamers you probably have available and try them with an Uber DAC. Thanks for sharing and what you do!

@1337sim1 8 месяцев назад

Also, make sure your DAC has at least 16 bits of dynamic range (96db) to be able to convert a CD quality stream correctly...

@avyaktangel 8 месяцев назад

If I'm right, The high Fi plus tier also gives more money to artists (or it used to) which I think is worth mentioning, as a lot of audio fans are aware of the issues surrounding pay for musicians/bands on streaming services. It would be interesting to know how that works and how much actually goes to artists.

@DarkoAudio 8 месяцев назад

Nope. That 'pay more to artists' feature was axed last year.

@avyaktangel 8 месяцев назад

Ah shame! @@DarkoAudio

@StelianPavalache76 8 месяцев назад

Switzerland: Tidal Hifi - 30 days free then CHF 13.90 / month ------- Hi-fi plus - 30 days free then CHF 25.90 / month. how is it possible that yours is half the price?

@85percentcocoa 8 месяцев назад

so, Hi Fi people are easily paying a plus in thousands for a minuscule ROI as perceived increase in audio quality, but they should not pay a mere 7 euros more per month for a similar perceived increase in audio quality, although the ROI goes through the roof! man, I CAN hear the difference between audio formats, and Hi Res is no joke for me, but a reality I can hear. I do not understand people that do not get it when it comes to Hi Res, and I am seriously mad about people like you not taking the ROI into account when it comes to Hi Res. It is like you cannot hear, or you do not have your nervous system educated enough to perceive the differences. it is true that I have been attracted to the sound since I was a little kid, like 3 years old, I intently listened everything around me, incl music, like no other people around me, my whole universe was more sound than anything. and for the love of God I cannot understand how you cannot hear the improvement in sound Hi Res brings and how great of a ROI is there. I am using just a Topping E30 II with a Topping L50 and a cheap Superlux HD 330 and I still can hear the difference (yeah, I am poor af).

@Agu2art 8 месяцев назад

For me, Tidal was the only streaming app that works just fine on my main setup (android tv> reciver). The key difference for me is the availability of Dolby Atmos on some albums. One thing I would chance on Tidal is it's Tidal Connect, as it won't pass HiRess nor Atmos, only "HiFi", and that's why I mainly use it directly from the native app on the tv (or Google TV Chromecast)

@jamiejade1971 8 месяцев назад

Sure it does. I have a Wiim Plus pro and it plays all my Hi-Res from Tidal.

@Agu2art 7 месяцев назад

@@jamiejade1971 well, from my phone direct to the streaming box (o Chromecast w/GoogleTV) it only works on "HiFi" quality. But, if I open the native app on Google TV, it does play everything and every format.

@Karhallarn 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for saving me 14€ on my Tidal Family subscription! Great information as always!

@TarkiBeladakis 8 месяцев назад

Can you at some point at doing a video on the following item ( miniDSP 2x4HD )

@b_lushu 8 месяцев назад

I've been using Tidal for quite some time, for the integration in Serato and the higher bitrates. But i really hate Tidal, and i think they hate me back. The tv app (that i use frequently in the livingroom, cause i don't want to add even more gear, like a streamer, next to my stereo) is, as you said, focused on video, which is nonsense. I'm not sure hifi guys are that into videos, i don't think they care that much. AND if you're subscribed to hifiplus, they don't give you the option to disable the damned ATMOS, which if you can't decode, plays at a really low volume in a stereo, regardless of how 'hifi' it is. This coupled with the fact that the app is absolute garbage for not letting you see a track's length, nor letting you see whether or not you liked a track...