TikTok's Algorithm Sends Kids Suicide Content | Bloomberg Investigates

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TikTok’s secret algorithm has been blamed for sending young users content that pushes some into a spiral of self-harm, disordered eating and suicide.
In this episode of Bloomberg Investigates, we meet a 13-year-old girl recovering from anorexia nervosa and a former TikTok employee who reveals the warnings he gave colleagues about the app's algorithm.
And we see what TikTok continues to send a 16-year-old boy who, according to his parents and their attorneys, killed himself because of the disturbing content that kept landing in his "For You" feed.
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@shamohabibi Год назад

I am so grateful that I never made an tiktok account.

@twist777hz Год назад

There should be MUCH more regulation on use of social media in general. They're literally no different than alcohol, cigarettes, drugs etc.

@suiteharley Год назад

So glad this is brought to light and able to share with parents. It’s the job of parents to do something

@KiefEriksson Год назад

Don’t be mad the internet isn’t raising your kids the way you like. Take the iPad away. Stop handing it off and considering your job done.

@annadeamaral8266 Год назад

Kids don’t need phones - and kids MOST definitely do not need ANY social media!

@EEE-1409 6 месяцев назад

I wouldn't recommend a handheld device until at least 7 I guess. RU-vid should be alright as long as comments are inaccessible and the content is regulated and monitored by the parent. There are a lot of educational channels here.

@StoryDrivenFilmmaking 2 месяца назад

@@EEE-14097 is too young. My daughter had a flip phone until she was 17. Best thing I ever did. She is now 21 and has no interest in social media. Loves to read books more than anything else.

@houstonlady1 Год назад

It's up to the adult in the family to explain to children and young adults why this app should not be used. People (adults) at my work will stay on this app instead of doing work.

@mhasisetuobelho2086 Год назад

a very addictive tool + teens with little self contro == Disaster

@user-il9qo4qc4n Год назад

So sad. Since TikTok is all user generated content, I'd love to see an investigation into why these young people are actually creating pro-anorexia content in the first place.

@JenniferBeeston Год назад

Views they are doing it for views

@zfqhdjgyb2222 Год назад

well don't we already all know about peer pressure. it just materialized into videos to match this age's progress.

@somerandomfella Год назад

These worthless attention seekers are equally responsible..

@KiefEriksson Год назад

Don’t be mad the internet isn’t raising your kids the way you like. Take the iPad away. Stop handing it off and considering your job done.

@user-il9qo4qc4n Год назад

@@KiefEriksson My kids have colouring books. But they'll have phones when they're teenagers.

@Davethreshold Год назад

I have been on RU-vid almost since its inception. For many years you could search for how to commit suicide or painless ways, etc. I did it because I could not believe it was allowed on here! There were HUNDREDS of people talking about it and giving advice. answers to that question were accurate, and GRAPHIC. Glad to see RU-vid FINALLY grew up!!

@pulungnanang1632 Год назад

The Social Dilemma by Tristan Harris shows us how ALL social media can do to users.

@somerandomfella Год назад

I read once that tech & pharma are the only industries that refer to their customers as "users"

@Mindy.Phillips Год назад

I’m sick just watching this!! What a scary, scary world these kids and young adults are growing up in. Something must be done

@KiefEriksson Год назад

Just stop letting iPads raise children? Always funny to me when parents ignore their kids and are angry the internet isn’t sheltering them. Wait till they’re older to have tablets and smartphones instead of taking it all away for adults too.

@Reylas Год назад

Take the phone from the KID. Problem solved

@露透社 Год назад

父母在看这些传统媒体洗脑没时间😂😂

@Cballin Год назад

Funny how all these concerns are not being pointed at reels by fb and instagram, literally the exact same app and same content, same creators.. Why isn't anyone going to congress to ban reels?

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Odd they have a version that isn't malignant for their own population. Just saying.

@lollypop2413 Год назад

Irresposible to allow unsupervised access to internet

@allthewayfrom Год назад

Capitalism (in its current form) incentivizes this horrific behavior. Social media companies want you using their app as much as possible because it makes them money. If it didn’t make money, they wouldn’t do it. Until this changes, human beings will continue to harm other human beings (and the biosphere) in order to “win” in the marketplace and/or stay employed. In our current system, your job is tied to your ability to meet basic needs, like food and housing. We need a system where your job isn’t tied to getting your needs met. That way, if you see immoral behavior in the workplace, you say something immediately because you no longer fear losing your job. We need a system that incentivizes healthy, life-affirming behaviors instead of the sh*t show we’re in now.

@slypear Год назад

Nothing to do about capitalism. Everything to do about communism unleashed in the greater world.

@CyclopsToppingWolverine Год назад

Now do the dark side of Meta

@sacvideo1998 Год назад

Meta has had a lot of negative impacts, but I don't think there are a lot of kids or teenagers addicted to using its products on the same level as TikTok. Kids certainly aren't using Facebook, and I think even Instagram is kind of irrelevant to a lot of younger people

@giovannicastiglioni4084 Год назад

Sadly, Meta is already pushing instagram reels, which are pretty much similar to tik tok RU-vid is pushing shorts These social media are getting out of control

@giovannicastiglioni4084 Год назад

I found myself very close to be addicted to instagram reels (1h30m/2h per day of scrolling) and uninstalled. I modded youtube to remove shorts They won't get me, and I will be able to take a walk in a park without looking at family guy or subway surfers

@gleitsonSalles Год назад

META was like sued a ton of times, and had to settle at least three times in Civil Actions. And Istagram Reels is less adctive than TikTok

@shzdable Год назад

Pretty ironic that we are watching this on youtube, which has youtube shorts. I mean why is it always tiktok. Why not others trch forms like instagram reels. Not that I use any of these extensively. But it does make you wonder why though.

@matthewrivers8153 Год назад

💯

@glassmuxxic Год назад

Because TikTok's users are disproportionately much younger than average users of other platforms, and the impact of engagement loops or hooks on young/developing brains are not well understood. Similar scrutiny of Instagram was common when it skewed younger some years ago. I have worked in tech product development/strategy for a decade - I would not give my kids unmonitored access to social media or the internet as it exists today.

@alwayslearning8365 Год назад

RU-vid shorts are extremely annoying and mind numbing. I dismiss them immediately and will unsubscribe from content providers who use shorts. They are not worth my time and attention.

@TyroneLT Год назад

It's because they need a scapegoat. RU-vid and IG are guilt of the same things because they all follow the attention-based business model. Until that business model changes, these problems will continue to show themselves regardless of thr platform.

@antoeckhart Год назад

Because TikTok is owned by China, an authoritarian regime! Don't be so naive!

@zachsimmons1860 Год назад

It really sounds like parents need to learn how to communicate with their kids and maybe just not let technology raise your kids

@annadeamaral8266 Год назад

Couldn’t agree more!!!

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 21 день назад

Only that everyone on the planet uses a cell phone - and that's how you are supposed to train for a job application, etc.

@saketkulkarni1238 Год назад

even instagram, facebook,snapchat, youtube also.... arguement stays the same

@KiefEriksson Год назад

Don’t be mad the internet isn’t raising your kids the way you like. Take the iPad away. Stop handing it off and considering your job done. As a non-tiktoker I still think it’s dumb to “burn a book” if it makes you uncomfortable.

@mandachipateniinnocent8011 Год назад

Don't parents have control over what their kids are exposed to ?

@imagines9688 Год назад

to many have phones these days so i would say it'd be hard/cant

@Mefaso09 Год назад

By that logic we might as well make liquor and cigarettes legal for children. ""Don't parents have control over what their children drink and smoke?""

@dailymeowion Год назад

smartphone is like magic. could use it everywhere anytime without parents seeing it. and how kids these days react to their parents.......

@Barb.u Год назад

Even if parents didn’t give their children phones, friends and classmates could show them content anyway. A parent can’t control the outside world but they can give children tools to protect themselves from harmful content.

@露透社 Год назад

@@Barb.u 抖音有青少年模式，请问你给自己的孩子打开了吗？如果没有，请打开它，顺便告诉朋友邻居给他们的孩子也打开。内容都是科学知识……😂😂

@adrian.8829 7 месяцев назад

Blaming the tool and not the user is a typical sign that they do not understand the main issue.. The problem are their parents, simple as that..

@leogomez1077 Год назад

The documentary forgot to mention (or maybe they’re not aware), that Tik Tok has software, algorithms, or whatever it is, that allows them to hear your conversations and they based their content on whatever they hear you say or talk about.

@leogomez1077 Год назад

If you are using Tik Tok while engaging in a conversation with someone, or if you have the app open in your phone while not in use or even if you don’t have it open, they still have access to your microphone. The app can listen to what you are talking about. Then they feed you content related to the conversation you were having or heard you say.

@leogomez1077 Год назад

In other words, Tik Tok is not based on what you search, but in what they hear.

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. I wonder why that could be. Very strange, don't you think?

@leogomez1077 Год назад

@@N8_DoubleYou Not familiar with Douyin. Though I believe they are both belong to Bytedance.

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

@@leogomez1077 Exactly my point Leo. Why doesn't Douyin have these issues?

@_thresh_ Год назад

I always stayed away from TikTok because I prefer longer videos but shorter videos, even if not shorts, tend to get more attention. Also TikTok came with windows 11 so i just uninstalled it when I saw it

@_thresh_ Год назад

Also those quotes at the end are TikTok just deflecting the problem "It wasn't our fault that we recommended videos that caused somebody to die, it was their fault for watching it"

@FinWonderland Год назад

Surprising how self control issue is blamed on the object itself

@vedantkumar2874 Год назад

Agreed

@GendefectX Год назад

It's the same with smoking or alcohol

@mentalhealthawarenesswithg8178 Год назад

This creates such a negative towards positive channels about mental health and those such as myself who try to help & educate about mental health awareness.

@ratave6472 Год назад

More action must be taken by the U.S. to stem this depressing activity

@LeeCurrid Год назад

TikTok didn't ruin (the old happy) TikTok, toxic people ruined TikTok.

@oceanwave4502 Год назад

Unpopular opinion: the 100% best way to prevent this is to abandon Internet completely and live in a cage in a basement...

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Just saying.

@LeeCurrid Год назад

@@N8_DoubleYou Probably down to societal differences, USA just way out there tbh

@slypear Год назад

@@LeeCurrid TikTok is banned in communist China.

@cringycook9597 Год назад

Never downloaded it and never will so not infected by it.

@IamTonyStark1 Год назад

Ur on yt

@Cballin Год назад

no one cares

@masteroogway9060 Год назад

Lol me too I am using RU-vid mod apk just to avoid RU-vid shorts and any short form contents 😅😅

@eyeofthetiger7 Год назад

Don't use RU-vid shorts, because it's the same thing. Reduce RU-vid as well.

@露透社 Год назад

@@masteroogway9060 他自己说话时有没有考虑自己是人类啊😂😂很奇怪的发言，告诉医生，药量加大，不要再放他出精神病院。

@q3itachyon209 Год назад

If tiktok was an american app, this video wouldn't be made in the first place

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Odd they have a version that isn't malignant for their own population. Just saying.

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 21 день назад

Why doesn't youtube do this to 12 year olds then?

@dynasty108 5 месяцев назад

this deserves more views.

@posthocprior Год назад

Was any data provided that TikTok is any more harmful or addictive than any other social media platform? If it was, I don't remember seeing it (I watched it while I was cooking). Was there any data on how many people have attempted suicide because of TikTok? Was there any data, of any kind, presented? If not, why? Without this data, it's impossible to tell the difference between a reporter who has a bias and a social media platform that's manipulating users for profit.

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Just saying.

@slypear Год назад

Collect your 50 cents

@susie2251 Год назад

@@N8_DoubleYou your talking about an app based in China. Exactly where are you supposed to get accurate, non doctored data on it.

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

@@susie2251 You could try r/china for starters. Its not really a secret they limit the usage of the app for their youth and promote beneficial (for the state) content. These reports are not someone's anecdotal experience either, it's explicitly their policy. Their version of the app is repressive, but ours is in my opinion deliberately harmful. Can't really get data on the motives of the CCP Susie. Just an observation/opinion.

@lnilin8810 Год назад

😅this isn’t really a TikTok problem, it’s the fact that no one really informs or educates kids enough about “problems” as a whole. Eating disorders, depression, etc. Parents don’t know how to educate them and leave it to the school, the school passes a surface level class with an under-waged teacher. So obviously kids start looking for answers somewhere else, anywhere else. TikTok (and all similar platforms) need to become addictive to outpace competition. They are just doing what capitalism wants them to do. “Sell more” So you have a curious teen looking for answers that adults don’t really want to discuss, they stat looking anywhere for answers. Even without TikTok, the internet at its early age was/is the place to look things up. In any case with or without TikTo or the internet people (kids/teens) end up in echo chambers, all because no one really wants/can inform them properly

@TyroneLT Год назад

👆 👆 👆 This right here sums it up!

@cactusp00p Год назад

The "recommended" feeds and monkey brain capability to swipe away content in exchange for fresh content instantly is just harmful. It's addicting. I can sit on the toilet for 45 minutes just scrolling and finding cute cat videos and people hurting themselves. Let alone having kids have unlimited access is like having coke, candy, and pizza rolls in your kitchen at all times. Not everyone has the discipline to just "stop".... It's tough to really control it. Edit: when I say people hurting themselves, I'm talking about in a skateboarder accident type way, not like self-harm un-alive themselves type way.

@stupidfanboyph Год назад

It isnt a Tiktok problem, but a political problem. Remember who is ruling China right now and what is being done to take over the US. With the help of Russia.

@fuzer4047 Год назад

@@cactusp00p And also the danger of TikTok as a platform and how it handles people data its like Meta but worse because the CCP can always get peoples data and maybe even that on kernel level

@JenniferBeeston Год назад

Delete it now. It is entertainment that can cost your children’s life

@sabir_raiyan 7 месяцев назад

oh, so that's why tiktok added that "Hey, you've been watching for an hour now" feature

@pierbover 10 месяцев назад

Maybe I missed it, but I was surprised they didn't investigate the difference between the content TikTok promotes in the US vs China.

@slypear Год назад

Great reporting. TikTok is China's vision of fentanyl online. Both are illegal in PRChina but come from there.

@LG215x 8 месяцев назад

Imagine that

@this_is_mac Год назад

Okay but they said their goal was maximizing DAU, instead of screen time, right?

@moreFUNmoreLIFE Год назад

Like Instagram - just on steroids

@AlgoNudger Год назад

The Dark Side of Big Tech? 🤭

@AbdallahBotan Год назад

A kid who is 16 killing himself because of a videos he saw on Tiktok. 16 years old.

@Nick-pc9tf Год назад

Not the platform issue. It's the whole industry. Trying to scapegoat TikTok is a political narrative. Instagram is worst. TikTok is genuine. This is just my personal take. Didn't get any weight or depressing vids. Sometimes... I wonder if the content made in that continent is being delivered more. Like if you lived in Germany and it'll show you more of content made there.

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Odd they have a version that isn't malignant for their own population. Just saying.

@stupidfanboyph Год назад

It isnt to scapegoat as a political narrative. It is a political issue, a soft power issue. Remember, we live in a time Xi-nnie the Pooh is alive and will be happy to rule the world in all ways possible.

@露透社 Год назад

@@N8_DoubleYou 是国家自己社会问题，平台不是原创，怎么样的人民创作怎么样的作品。抖音有青少年模式，如果用它，会学到很多知识。可惜评论区的长辈们思想太过保守，不想让孩子接触抖音。搞笑的是yt自己也在做同样的短视频程序。唯一不同的是，抖音能看到真实的美国，yt 就不一定了！抖音告诉大家社会有问题，同样也有好的地方，所以坐在办公室的政府工作人员没那么舒服，竞争对手同样恐慌，两者联合在打压抖音。越来越多人不相信传统媒体，他们垄断个人信息，如果一个突发事件，我在看传统媒体时也会结合自媒体判断一个事物，尤其结合当地人拍摄的内容，而不是由这些传统媒体牵着我们鼻子走。所以传统媒体，保守父母，官员，竞争对手反对它，而未来社会的主人年轻人喜欢它，抖音真实。❤

@michaelturner4457 Год назад

I did have a look at TikTok, and I just thought, meh!. RU-vid is much better.

@HelloAwesome94 Год назад

I mean Tiktok is made by ByteDance a CCP company. Yeah not owned but you should see how positive the China version of Tiktok is. It’s that saying “the call is coming from inside the house.” What better way to take down your enemy then to have them do it themselves. Yes an AI is for optimization but seeing what one version has compared to USA/Wests tiktok is ludicrous.

@dgarrisynn784refixtingz6 Год назад

In my opinion btw but I feel that the topic shouldn't be about tik tok but more about the entire social media platforms including Instagram, Meta, and the community such as the LGBTQ+ for what they're programming our children with, but thank you tik tok you're now the punching bag and have taken all the attention away from those groups & platforms. Well you're a none united state huge organization so you're the escape goal

@sacvideo1998 Год назад

escape goal?

@skata0sta0moutra0sas Год назад

@@sacvideo1998 escape goat he/she meant

@dgarrisynn784refixtingz6 Год назад

We all know it's a typo and the word should've been Scapegoat but go ahead and get kicked out of it🙏🏿

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

@@dgarrisynn784refixtingz6 *Get a kick out of it

@slypear Год назад

@@skata0sta0moutra0sas Simply use "they"

@JewishKeto 6 месяцев назад

I want it banned!

@IamTonyStark1 Год назад

parents don't put controls on their phones

@KaleighMacKay Год назад

China doesn’t need to physically invade a country if they can make its citizens crumble from manipulating its mental health and feelings. Rage, sorrow, adrenaline, belonging, loneliness….. they got something for everyone

@dobrindobrinov6370 Год назад

This is why I don’t have any social media accounts !!!

@footballhighlights7222 Год назад

How are Facebook and the toxic Twitter app different from Tiktok>?

@sacvideo1998 Год назад

For one thing, the For You feed actually works on TikTok, unlike Twitter's broken mess of a feed. Facebook is different from TikTok in that it struggles to attract users under the age of 50

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Odd they have a version that isn't malignant for their own population. Just saying.

@ssuwandi3240 Год назад

I dont. Maybe those lousy parents being ignored by their children

@ermazepba8280 Год назад

And the dark side of Facebook, RU-vid, instagram, WhatsApp ??????????????????¿???????????

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Odd they have a version that isn't malignant for their own population. Just saying.

@samhassan683 7 месяцев назад

This is awful I find some of the contnet disturbing at 30 yo I can only imagine if I was exposed to it as a teenager

@joselyncrespo8128 Год назад

Excellent video

@TJMartinek Год назад

Heyyyyy a bunch of middle-age parents complaining about the newest perceived danger. If only we had learned from the satanic panic, DnD, Skateboards, Comic Books...

@rantzntirades1104 7 месяцев назад

I'm am greatful I never made a tiktok account. I sometimes go on it to conduct osint but when I do, I connect from the tor network. I literally cannot be there long without feeling the brain rot.

@Heyokasireniei468sxso Год назад

This is PsyOps thats what tiktok is aside from a propaganda machine

@abbylauren7837 11 месяцев назад

I’m a ranked tik toker tik tok we need help

@moblue289 Год назад

This video is sponsored by US

@sklepgekon Год назад

its rather obvious

@sacvideo1998 Год назад

Replies are sponsored by the CCP, seemingly

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Odd they have a version that isn't malignant for their own population. Just saying.

@moblue289 Год назад

@@N8_DoubleYou its because china government controls their everything, thats why douyin is tame, do u want all governments to control the media?

@HolloMatlala1 4 месяца назад

21:30 This is why We need and had Eminem....Helped many understand their Rage and how to compose it and shift it into Emotional EQ to tackle bigger problems

@luizchagasjardim Год назад

Weird editorial choice of singling out of TikTok. I'm sure you find the same things with all other major social networks.

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

Curiously, you don't find these issues with Douyin.

@stupidfanboyph Год назад

Wumao are you?

@jhormanteran1431 Год назад

Well, yo can quite the phone fron your addicted daugther in this situation.

@dreaming_fox163 Год назад

sue a company because you cant control yourself/parents cant control you. its like blaming marlboro for selling cigarettes even after its proven that its cancerous

@露透社 Год назад

传统媒体和保守长辈，再加垄断公司，垄断政府官员们的迷幻操作😂😂

@dreaming_fox163 Год назад

@@露透社 यह अक्षम माता-पिता का मामला है।

@mareksbesprozvannijs3463 Год назад

I'm not big fan of it, but it can be also useful

@anamamer2600 Год назад

U know something is wrong when a company has to repeatedly say that d user protection is their number 1 responsibility

@rohitsakalle Год назад

So report is prepared by searching on Google 😂😂 How about addiction of RU-vid 😊 And it's funny that I get tick Tock advt on this video

@didyoumissedmegobareatersk2204 Год назад

😂😂

@akashsxo Год назад

All SHORTS are worse than Covid-19

@KiefEriksson Год назад

“They’re developing harmful dependencies” says that 100lb overweight woman. It’s not normal to trick your body into thinking you’re surviving by eating 4 McDonald’s meals per sitting.

@dentheplodder Год назад

US mass media are properly in it for tiktok. But of course, those big moneymen have to preserve those large institutionally owned assets (eg. meta, ggl etc.) 😉

@reis1185 Год назад

nice

@guff9567 Год назад

I blame being an American

@mhasisetuobelho2086 Год назад

well insta and facebook are the same here but ig tik tok is chinese so ? lol

@yeahnah773 Год назад

I don’t mind you saying you don’t like tik tok. Just be honest and say “here is your propaganda today”

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Just saying.

@SN-zu9nm Год назад

How about insta reel addiction

@xgobigorgohomex Год назад

Haha

@ytoh6408 Год назад

Oh its the lady with the weird accent again

@LeeCurrid Год назад

It's called Australian!

@sunside7 Год назад

It's a New Zealand accent. (I was born there)

@kielvostro Год назад

Chinese propaganda tool lolz

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, Douyin doesn't seem to have these issues. Odd they have a version that isn't malignant for their own population. Just saying.

@fishiestify Год назад

Typical America when you lost a business competition, you try to get rid of the competitor by unscrupulously framing your competitor with all kinds of faulty accusations. That's downright immoral and unethical. So evil.

@N8_DoubleYou Год назад

To be fair, I hear Douyin doesn't have these issues. Sounds like these wolf warriors are doing it on purpose.

@zavrick Год назад

@@N8_DoubleYou I hear that they have more draconic censorship laws in China. Might be why they don't have such content?

@flyoutchase Год назад

@@N8_DoubleYou they don't have the issues because china passed laws reducing the time spent on the app and made byte dance show more educational content....I don't know, maybe america officials should follow suit but they are too busy funding zelensky