YES. Like I get not wanting to send pictures of a half-finished gown, but once it's pieced together, that's go-time. I'm not convinced she even made a dress..
Fr it’s just basic commission etiquette to send progress pics in case they want to change anything, things aren’t going as they want, or just to show you’re actually doing the job theyre paying for loll
I dont even have a buissness, I just cant keep everything I crochet. If someone asks me to make them something I send them progress pics so I can make changes early on.
as someone who sold a couple commissions as an artist i usually at least send the sketch when they don’t ask for pictures themselves. solely cause im afraid of them not being happy with what im cooking up. there’s no doubt in my mind this company is working extremely sloppy and irresponsibly
I feel so bad for the bride. Only starting the dress AFTER the due date is absolutely contract breaking behavior and I have no sympathy for her. That's just not how any reasonable commissions work.
Ya and comments are like "you expecting a dress to be done In 4 months is crazy, like girl the dress maker didn't Even start until AFTER the deadline!.
As a seamstress the company is DEFINITELY in the wrong. Insane to start the project over a week after it was due. They should be ashamed. I don't care what your policies are, you made the mistake and you owe her a refund.
Not only that, the bride was basically saying, ‘fine, keep the deposit money but just give me what’s done!’ and that lady has the audacity to say “face the repercussions” and be like ‘you need to pay for the full dress price to get the corset thats done even though the cost of the corset is the same as the deposit’. I ABSOLUTELY hope the bride’s credit card company gets her ass and makes her pay back the poor bride!
I don't even do bridal commissions (I hem jeans and alter tradie gear) but as a seamstress I make sure my work is done in a timely fashion. If you can't meet such a serious deadline then don't do bridal. Being a successful business person involves knowing your limits. The seamstress is tripping 🤦
that part! i mean, it seems like she can’t even meet deadlines in general, the girl who wanted her dress for her birthday didn’t get it in time either. but bridal is one of those things where you can’t just keep making excuses, you can’t have a belated wedding but you can celebrate a belated birthday
wow this is actually a separate wedding dress drama scenario than i thought it was but the main point stands that you should NOT be doing bridal if you can’t meet a simple deadline lol
@@lizzyblitz07 exactly! you should know your abilities and shouldn’t be in the business if you’re too ashamed to say no because you know you can’t meet a deadline. don’t say yes for the job just to avoid admitting your faults. that’s how you never get better and never get future business lol
prolly gonna get flamed for this comment but it reminded me of those videos where white women harass black women and then when the black woman rightfully retaliates they get bystanders/the police involved and try to act all soft and demure and innocent 😬
starting on the dress AFTER ITS DUE is insane. also for the people saying "it's impossible to get a custom dress done in that short a time!" agreed, which is why the SEAMSTRESS shouldn't have accepted the job. she should have said she can't get it done.
If the seamstress really wanted the challenge of making the dress that fast, she should have been working on the dress over all those months! Of course it sucks that the bride thought a custom gown could be finished so quick, but it probably could have been if the dressmaker had actually given a damn
The wedding dress I'm sewing as I watch this video has literally been 9+ months in the making- this little time for a project that large is INSANE. especially if it's a self drafted pattern that needs tweaking.
And to be fair to the bride: she seemed to understand this herself. She only really wanted the corset. The dress itself was just an "would that even be possible?" thing that she was fully prepared to get elsewhere, but it seems like the designer went out of her way to agree to do it all herself. And they'd been talking about the dress for over a year, so the bride gave more than enough time initially. It just took until April for the designer to finalize the design.
From it sounds like, they did discuss the dress since last year and the design was only finalized in April, so really she had all that time to start the process. And the bride asked if it was even possible to do the whole dress and the owner said that it was doable.
definitely! people don’t suddenly know everything about custom dress design and timelines because they need a wedding dress. putting the responsibility on the bride is wiiiild
I'm convinced she dropships the dresses. That "sketch" she sent is in no way professionally made, that was the first red flag. The lack of any picture whatsoever, even for fabrics, was the second red flag. Starting after the deadline was up was the entire red flag parade.
I had to go back to look at the sketch! That was ridiculous, like 6th grader 'this is my dream dress' stuff, not actual fashion sketching by someone with pattern and drafting skills.
Sounds like we need the red flag guy!! I used to work at a bridal boutique. This "designer" sounds delulu! That was a good 12 years ago so the dropshipping crap wasn't as prevalent. But we still had ppl try ordering dresses online and it being a total nightmare. We always did the best we could to get them in a dress, get it altered and match with accessories in store that day. Then they could go back to all the finalizing you have to do in those last 30 days. The absolute disasters back then were prom dresses from online. Always came from China. 95% of the time they were to small but also like 8 feet long 😅. That was a fun job even tho it got stressful.
This isn't a case of a seamstress being bad a managing or business. She's NOT a seamstress yet. In the videos where her sister talks about how she basically took the idea they both had where the sister would design the dresses and she would LEARN HOW TO SEW to start selling wedding dresses. Shes a beginner sewist that decided that she was going to start out by selling WEDDING DRESSES and CORSETS. And you can tell. Both of those are not beginning projects let alone SELLING as a beginner projects. Theres other videos showing some of the dresses she sold and they have things like bunching, unfinished edges, and literally just left loose zippers.
Also there's NO way she's sewing those corsets herself. She's likely getting them premade and making adjustments. Corsets take a specific set of skill with the boning and lining types. And if she can't even sew a zipper she def isn't sewing corsets
Plus she has no idea what she's even talking about. She said that custom sized pieces can't be reused??? Yes they can?? People do it all the time. Plus if she never met in person to size it then it's not totally custom sized. You can find another person with similar or smaller sizes and adjust it
@@twistedmaidn Her absolute cluelessness in that single comment😭. I’m not even a seamstress, but where I live, the wedding outfits for the couple and their families are mostly pieces we rent from the vendor. Making bridal outfits are very labor intensive AND expensive so pieces made are reused time and time again. I was the groom’s sister and although they made our outfits from scratch, they rented it out to other people after that. Any minor difference in sizing can be adjusted as any seamstress worth their money SHOULD be able to do that
@@nootnoot1537Renting seems like it’d make a lot more sense. Maybe it’d feel less special, but that much money for a dress you only wear once seems inefficient (and a waste of labor).
That's not what drop shipping means. You mean that she's buying cheap dresses and gluing additions, but with drop shipping, the seller never touches the actual item.
I bought my dress from anthro, and took it to my tailor to make smaller. I had that poor man working 24/7 because little things kept sticking out funny. He WAS ALWAYS honest with me, and fixed everything he could, even making me a little patchwork kerchief. All in three days leading up to the wedding. He was prompt and amazing. He was ALSO paid and tipped to express that. I recommend him to EVERYONE. THAT is how you keep a business going. He’s been my tailor since middle school, and now in my 30’s he’s tailored my 5 year olds dresses. She will never survive as a brand. Never ever.
This is weirdly wholesome to me. A person tailoring you through your major life events from middle school, and now tailoring garments for your own child.😭❤️
@@Partyhatpossum I’m absolutely going to sob when he retires 😩 I have a great relationship with him and his wife, and thankfully their boys actually love tailoring/sewing too, so this is going to be a legacy for them! I moved away for five years with the marines, but would mail him my new uniforms each time 🤣 it’s one of the last pieces of my childhood still open, and it’s only because they’re ACTUALLY amazing people/business owners!!
@@courtneyisaseagull oh god not the cobbler too 😩 he’s been re-soling my boots for decades too. Now I’m gonna go cry about him too 😂 got me sounding like I live in a village, but it’s actually Baltimore 🤣 I hope you fond a wonderful tailor hun!!!
the fact she shows the dms up until "we agreed on a full gown later" okay and why'd you suddenly stop showing receipts. was it bc you agreed to finish it by aug 1? do you think people are stupid?
Right like, I'm the type of person to put emojis and try to give a friendly tone naturally because I would hate to stress someone out and potentially have a negative reaction based on that. Bride sounded very understanding and if anything was the one misled to believe it was all going to happen on time (the whole dress) until it turned out to just be the corset...and I'm even skeptical that that is complete tbh
This is besides the point but saying "never had an interest in fashion before" when she was hand-sewing and selling corsets is crazy. That interest and skill level don't develop quickly and come from nowhere.
@@-MaryPoppins-oh my! which would explain the lack of photos when asked for progress.. just like that other tiktok wedding drama of that botched dress lol
One of the other commenters confirmed that in the original video allegedly the sister claims her villain of a sister was just barely learning how to sew!
Trust me an interest in sewing doesn’t equal interest in fashion. You can sew things but have so interest in actual fashion design or making proper garments, I don’t think people who take up sewing to fix clothing or modify existing clothing are necessarily into making entire dresses by hand for a living.
A month before the wedding our cake maker cancelled for no reason. She said it was because we hadn’t sent something before a certain date, but I checked her terms and conditions and we still had time to do it. Anyway I didn’t want to work with her because she was so rude to us in the email exchange. My husband has a severe nut allergy so finding another baker with a nut free kitchen who could deliver to our venue very out of the way was a nightmare. My husband actually managed to find one though - we worked with him again for my grandma’s 90th because he was awesome!
I am rethinking the term 'Bridezillas', these vendors are out here wildin'. First the intrusive Make-up Artist, now the procrastinating thieving Designer...next, I want some shady DJs and Crazy caterers. 🎉🎉🎉 👰🏾👰🏻♂️👰🏽♀️
i seem to faintly remember a dj/wedding band story where (whoever was doing the music) turned out to be the bride's ex and kept making tributes to her or something. though this was from reddit so take it with a couple grains of salt
good on the bride for filing a refund request from her credit card company and then refusing to back down until she got the thing she'd paid for. hopefully between her and the wronged sister, this scam artist will be finished.
despite everything, it's such a stupid comment saying "only 4 months for a custom wedding dress?" if a business says they can make it in that time and charge u for it, it's not only reasonable but expected to be delivered on time. i've done custom evening wear in way less than that and that was me working solo without the expectations of a client.
You can really see the difference with the bride’s video vs the business owner’s video, the bride acts like a normal person but the business owner’s face like doesnt move when she talks and its scaring me Shes trying to looksmax her fucking response video or something
So I have a policy that I don't send pictures until I've passed a certain point in construction because brides don't even know what they're looking at when it's just pattern pieces- I send them a whole bunch of pictures of the process once I've got it on the mannequin and it actually looks like a dress. But it literally doesn't even look like she sent a single picture of the dress, constructed or otherwise! I'm not convinced she even made one...
@@gblikestosew The fact that she's not even showing any pics of either it or the corset in her reply video, despite supposedly having it fully done and ready to ship, is really suspicious. She showed the design to prove she'd had that finished, but not any of the actual completed pieces.
@@bch7905 not even, she's using a predrawn croquis (a drawing of a person you design on) The only thing she had to see was the neckline, the corset stripes, the outline of the two skirts and shade in the inner skirt, that's like, 5 minutes tops.
As a seamstress currently working on a wedding dress (finishing it up for October but its been in progress since last summer) as I watch this video. It's giving me whiplash. Holy breach of contract, batman. Now don't get me wrong- we absolutely prefer brides up pick up their dresses fairly close to the actual date of the wedding, but that's brides are anxious messes and we don't want to give her time to convince herself that her dress magically no longer fits after 30 days (it does) not because the dress ISN'T EVEN DONE-
This kind of behavior seems to be pretty common with every online custom clothing "company." Or at least this is also a rampant issue in the furry fandom with fursuits. I paid $3k for a fursuit that was supposed to be completed within a year. It took five. These people make you sign contracts where you agree not to do chargebacks, agree that you are not entitled to a refund, etc. By the time you realize you're getting fucked over, it's too late to do a chargeback with most credit card companies because the average wait for a fursuit is 1-2 years. You send hearts and smilies in the chats with the makers because they're holding your money hostage. They trickle in progress pics for months with barely any progress made just to make you think they're actually doing the thing you paid them for. By the time I got my fursuit I had become chronically ill due to covid. I can't even fucking wear it anymore as I have severe POTS. I should have gotten it four years ago when I could have enjoyed it. Good on the bride for doing the chargeback before it was too late.
Already thought the seamstress was in the wrong for getting started after the due date, but her passive-aggressive response in the video really sold it for me 😭 I hope the bride was able to get everything sorted out in the end...
I don't like when the brands respond with tik toks too. I wish they'd try to make the situation right w the person who had no real options but to make the video instead of turning it into drama
If you can't make a dress in 4 months, don't take the job/money, that easy. Anyone claiming that the bride was unrealistic is being unrealistic themselves.
I thought this was the one where the seamstress sent a wedding dress 2 or so days before the wedding date and the designs wasn't what they talked about so the bride had to buy a different dress last minute.
I once got scammed outta money n a custom corset n that shit had me stressed for MONTHS until i finally stopped giving the seamstress the benefit of the doubt n took a partial refund to finally settle the situation. I cant imagine how much worse it was for that woman w her being scammed out of a whole ass wedding dress.
Video in a couple months: "huge Fursuit drama" and it's exactly the same as this but instead of for a wedding it's a customer that wanted a fursuit before the deadline of a convention
If you think this is crazy you need to see the story about the makeup artist that got kicked out of a wedding and got dragged on TikTok by the bridesmaids and sister in law of the bride AND someone else she worked with
Do these kind of commissioned online businesses for thousands of dollars not have contracts involved? Are people just sending hundreds of dollars to a stranger with no enforceable agreement in place?
Agreements made by text are legally binding as long as there's a clear agreement. You don't need special fancy contracts, that's a myth made by companies to scam the common folk, don't spread it!
With the issue of whether it would be a realistic timeline, I really don’t think that’s the bride’s full responsibility. I would bet most people, even if wedding planning, don’t know timelines for dressmaking and usually with commissions it’s also dependent on someone’s skill set. The seamstress is ultimately responsible to say she can’t meet a tight deadline. Also wild to keep the $700 when it wasn’t even STARTED until after the deadline.
My grandma actually works as a seamstress. She can't exactly read, so I work as her assistant from time to time. She notoriously fucking hates wedding requests because of how much time goes into making the dress. We're talking about reservations at least 8 months in advance if you want that shit on time. The worst project She got was this lady who wanted her to make a wedding dress off of this trash-bag shaped Shien dress in like 6 months. Literally was miserable the whole time holed up in her little office :(( not to mention pickier brides have a weird tendency to make last minute (read: sometimes weeks before or sometimes three months before a wedding) adjustments. Bridal dress business is a hell world.
She talks so weird in her video that business lady. Alone that she never showed the dress in her respond video showes there was never a dress that she worked one 💀
Its just funny to me that the screenshots the dressmaker shared confirm the bride's side of the story. She started the dress late!!! But i will note, if youre gonna order a custom wedding gown for a September wedding, maybe April of the same year is a little late to order it and expect it to be completed in time.
Well, the bride said they'd been talking for over a year. It just took them until April to finalize the design. And at least going by the messages shown by the designer in the response video, it doesn't sound like the bride was being particularly picky about the design, appearing fully okay with trusting the designer. So the real question is why it took nearly a year to finalize the design.
this is all so fucked, bride was definitely in the right, they knew VERY very far in advance and thats incredibly frustrating :/ i hate when ppl who know for months or even a year pull shit like this let alone it being for such a huge event in someones life. the sister situation just reinforces that scummyness ig. hope bride and sister get something good out of this
Isn't the point of the deposit incase its canceled? So.... why does she need to pay for the whole dress? Also, I'm someone who does concept art, specifically character outfit design. That design was kinda... uh.... not something I'd envision for a professional bridal shop?
What the.. this the second wedding dress drama I'm seeing. I initially didn't click on this vid bc I thought it was the same situation. Imagine my shock seeing it's different people but very similar situation
Off topic but a pet peeve of mine is when people say the whole sentence and then add "blah blah blah" there is nothing after it! You said the whole thing!
Scam is literally promising something that (may or may not be possible) and not delivering on that promise after taking the money. People who think it's the brides fault brcause she expected a gown to be done in three month. That's LITERALLY THE SCAM
That designer is nits, they could use a dose of anxiety and or horrible consequences slapping her in the face. I just finished a commissioned art piece that was not for anything as important as a wedding and I was checking my messages anxiously making sure I responded quickly and was on track to meet the clients goals. It's not that hard. If she couldn't handle another project she should have said no. Once the deadline passes with little to no progress the customer deserves a refund 100% or you pull an all nighter until it is complete and include extras because that is unacceptable. If you say your going to do something AND you accept money for it you need to follow through. If you don't you should be so apologetic and put things in place to ensure that will never happen again. This woman should never own a business... or even be a manager. Never put her in charge of anything 😬
Tbh them even keeping the whole 700 if they gave her the corset is crazy to me. Considering the deadlines they completely ignored, clearly not communicating that they couldn't finish this order in time from the beginning, and the amount of fucking stress they are causing a bride leading up to her wedding, tbh they should give some of that money back AND the finished pieces like istfg. I hope that she's legally able to sue or something (idk how the law works with like small business made to order stuff though) because this is just ridiculous.
The seamstress is geuinely so creepy... The calculated, soft talking, eyes just staring into your soul, the way she's just so oblivious but so clearly trying to manipulate the audience... Eugh
