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Tilting Triumph - X2000 

Ruairidh MacVeigh
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As something of a counterpart to my earlier video on the failure of the Advanced Passenger Train or APT, British Rail's sadly fruitless endeavour to create an express multiple unit with an active tilting system, we turn our attention now to a tilting train done right with Sweden's X2000, an answer to geographical problems caused by the nation's largely mountainous terrain that precluded high speed running in the same manner as other European countries, and led ultimately to a superbly built and extremely comfortable series of electric multiple units that have been the pride of Sweden's passenger network for over 30 years, and even saw great interest garnered in potential export models across the globe by rail operators in America and Australia.
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- Institution in Göteborg by Mr Mats Karlsson of Statens Järnvägar (and their respective sources)
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@C2K777
@C2K777 10 месяцев назад
It's Saturday morning. Must be 'Learn something new with Ruairidh' time. btw. How does one pronounce your name? Never been able to get my head around it even after following you for several years now. It's either gonna be insanely simple phonetically or will probably join the 'Never gonna get or remember that' list I imagine. Difficult ( for my small brain) account name aside. Thanks for the continued brilliantly researched and presented content chap.
@smorris12
@smorris12 10 месяцев назад
I think it's "Rory". Irish, by the look of it
@C2K777
@C2K777 10 месяцев назад
@@smorris12 Right or wrong I can remember that. So he's now been renamed Rory whether he likes it or not 🤣
@smorris12
@smorris12 10 месяцев назад
@@C2K777 I've found that until you meet a Siobhan, Niamh or Eimear, the chances of getting the pronunciation right are negligible!!
@C2K777
@C2K777 10 месяцев назад
@@smorris12 Particle physics, shipyard steel laying, how to get perfect cake icing. idk man. lot of crazy words there I have no idea about (( JK lest I offend half the Irish nation ))
@rorymacve
@rorymacve 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for your kind words, and the pronunciation is in fact 'Rory', from a Gaelic origin. 🙂
@persjofors2586
@persjofors2586 10 месяцев назад
Well, one correction is that Sweden is not "largely mountainous" but, in fact, rather the opposite. It is flat, with some rather minor mountains in the north towards the Norwegian border. There are other reasons Swedish mainlines are not so strait; many lakes that needed to be avoided and the cost of building infrastructure in a sparsely populated country meant that is was cheaper to go around obstacles than over or under them.
@wewillrockyou1986
@wewillrockyou1986 10 месяцев назад
It's hilly more than anything
@COPPAS70
@COPPAS70 10 месяцев назад
@@wewillrockyou1986 Not particularly.
@moggsly5669
@moggsly5669 10 месяцев назад
Tbf Its basicly just a massive hill going towards jonkoping
@TommiNummelin
@TommiNummelin 10 месяцев назад
@@moggsly5669 Just this summer I cycled from Göteborg to Stockholm via Jönköping, and...can confirm.
@markhaus
@markhaus 10 месяцев назад
Yeah I cringed a bit when I heard that. If you look around there are no mountains anywhere near population centers. Sweden is hilly at worst. Lake dodging makes a lot more sense as an explanation for a tilting train and frequently bending track
@maestromecanico597
@maestromecanico597 10 месяцев назад
Thank you VERY much for this. I got to ride X2000 on the noon Metroliner in 1993. It was EXACTLY what Amtrak needed for the 19th century infrastructure that is the Northeast Corridor. In the end it was expensive and Amtrak wanted cheap and so we got the "American Flyer" later rebranded Acela. X2000 has been rebuilt losing the original GTO inverters and getting IGBT inverters (and ballast to make up for the weight loss) and will be in service through at least the end of the decade. Acela cannot be replaced soon enough. We had the answer in our hands...and we let it go.
@zoqaeski
@zoqaeski 10 месяцев назад
Blame the AAR for that. They insisted on the ridiculous requirement for trains to resist structural deformation with sheer buff strength rather than crumple zones that could absorb kinetic energy, so most American trains are effectively built out of heavy steel armour plating. Unlike everywhere else in the world, that seeks to avoid derailments and collisions by providing adequate signalling and infrastructure, the AAR approach is to require rollingstock that won't be destroyed in the inevitable crashes. They've relaxed the rules somewhat but the legacy remains, and American railroads are notoriously resistant to embracing new ideas from overseas.
@quayzar1
@quayzar1 10 месяцев назад
@@zoqaeski They were planning a waver for the NEC though. No there were more concerns about buying American and Bombardier had production in the US. In fact they have that waiver now for the Avelia Liberty.
@maestromecanico597
@maestromecanico597 10 месяцев назад
@@zoqaeski The AAR does not write standards for passenger vehicles. Back in the late 90s when Acela was on the drawing board they designed for the then current FRA requirement for end buff strength: 800k lbs. After a knock down drag out fight within the FRA the 1m lbs buff strength requirement was adopted for vehicles above 125 but not above 150 mph. (For the record X2000 met the 800k requirement as designed and may have met 1m with little or no modification.) At this point, as later chronicled by NRPC OIG, they should have ripped up the plans for Acela and started over. Buff strength is a function of design as well as material. But starting over would raise the cost and exceed the already paper thin margin Bomber had committed to. Ergo, they added more steel and created a very fast tank.
@maestromecanico597
@maestromecanico597 10 месяцев назад
@@quayzar1 At the time of testing X2000 and ICE the wreck of the Colonial at Chase, Maryland, was still very fresh on everyone’s (read FRA) mind. They were not going to sanction “high-speed” cab cars on the NEC and so if X2000 had been chosen there would have been a power car on each end. Also, at the time ABB had the facility in Elmira, New York, at the time and would have complied with the “buy USA” requirements. That property would later become the space for CAF USA to build the Viewliner 2s…but that’s another debacle.
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan 10 месяцев назад
12:53 Although the Acela power cars were based on the French TGV, the coaches were based on the Canadian LRC, featuring active tilting which was not part of TGV designs. In effect what Amtrak had requested was an X2000 which met U.S. regulations.
@michaelb6269
@michaelb6269 10 месяцев назад
And 30 years later, the X2000 is still the best train running here in Sweden, in my opinion. Thank you for this nice presentation.
@jultomten3739
@jultomten3739 10 месяцев назад
33* and is not the best depending on what you call "best train"
@davebowman6497
@davebowman6497 9 месяцев назад
​@@jultomten3739I clearly see "in my opinion" in Michaels comment..
@jultomten3739
@jultomten3739 9 месяцев назад
@@davebowman6497 Missed that, sorry still 33 years :)
@mdhazeldine
@mdhazeldine 10 месяцев назад
The X2000 is a design classic. I hate to use the word "iconic", but I think it applies here. Definitely one of the best looking high speed trains ever, along with the ICE1 and the original TGV Atlantique and Sud Est. I've never been on one, but I recently visited Malmo and saw one at the station. So cool.
@salvatoreshiggerino6810
@salvatoreshiggerino6810 10 месяцев назад
They struck a perfect mix of modern and classic with the sleek ends and corrugated sides. The original TGV and Shinkansen are definitely more iconic, but the X2 is a much more timeless design.
@Whatshisname346
@Whatshisname346 10 месяцев назад
My first ride on a high speed train was on an x2000 back in the early 2000s. It was a brilliant service especially compared to what I was used to in the UK and Ireland. It wasn’t particularly fast but the interior comfort, general design and cleanliness was a step above anything I’d previously experienced. A really great achievement.
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan 10 месяцев назад
But the speed of the X2000 is the same as UK trains such as the HST and 225 so surely if you count the X2000 as a high speed train then the HST should be a high speed train as well.
@Whatshisname346
@Whatshisname346 10 месяцев назад
@@OntarioTrafficManAs I stated, It wan't particularly fast.
@lokstollen124
@lokstollen124 10 месяцев назад
As a swedish train enthusiast, i got so happy seeing you covering something swedish!! Cherrs mate🍻
@krisstopher8259
@krisstopher8259 10 месяцев назад
i didn't know it was that popular back then
@andrewdarley8988
@andrewdarley8988 10 месяцев назад
Except for the far north Sweden is not a mountainous country but it is very humpy. The geographical feature which dictated the shape of the railways was the prevalence of lakes and rivers. The engineers building the tracks originally took the easy way out following the edge of a lake or a river wherever possible giving rise to the extremely twisty track. Even today the most sinuous portions are those which follow the water's edge but the cancellation of G forces is so good that it can be quite a surprise to look out the window and see an adjacent stretch of water apparently sloping up to sky. I don't know whether it is still the case in the early days even the second-class carriages had the same at table 2+1 layout as first class which with the broad Swedish loading gauge made it about the most spacious second-class in Europe.
@crvcrfing
@crvcrfing 10 месяцев назад
Fun fact. Back in 1990's Poland was looking for a high speed tilting trains and there were two competitors, Fiat Ferroviara with Pendolino and ADTranz with X2000 nicknamed "projekt fala" ("project wave").
@roberthuron9160
@roberthuron9160 10 месяцев назад
During the 90's,I was able to get a press pass on the X-2000 to Washington,and that train was beautiful! An example of the speed factor,was when we went through Holmesburg Junction[North of Philadelphia],the train was doing 120 MPH,and a regular train was limited to 90/100 depending on type! The crew who was running those trips,were enthusiastic about that set! Really,Amtrak blew it on not ordering a few sets,as that would have given the airlines a good run for the money! And if Congress would finally treat Public Transportation as an asset,instead of a liability,that would give the nation,a good shot in the arm!! Thank you,for reviving some good memories!! Thanks again! Thank you 😇 😊!!
@saibotb
@saibotb 10 месяцев назад
And now an upgraded x2000c is out on the tracks in Sweden
@poochyena3197
@poochyena3197 10 месяцев назад
As a Swedish train geek, I appreciate videos with high quality about our trains. Just a small correction. 2:32 The X1 was used in 1969-71 for tests of high-speed trains. X1 were new commuter trains at the time and they were needed in Stockholm. So they used an old X5 that was built in 1948. It was the X5 that was rebuilt into the X15.
@greateraviationgl91
@greateraviationgl91 10 месяцев назад
And now we have a Swiss train called X15 "p" waiting to start service on the Roslagsbanan 😉
@odenviking
@odenviking 10 месяцев назад
i had the chance to travel on x2000 when i had come from italy and jumped on the x2000 in cph went to alvesta in sweden. thanks for uploading this video. 👍👍👍🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪
@antonberglund117
@antonberglund117 10 месяцев назад
As a Swedish train entusuast you have done great research, and very happy to see something Swedish being covered on your channel. And the X2000 are just now getting refurbishment i Västerås (Sweden) to extend their lifespan with 20-25 years!
@DKS225
@DKS225 10 месяцев назад
Sadly the X2000's time in NSW Australia never went beyond the demo runs due mainly to the amount of severe curves reducing train speeds to as low as 40mph in places caused by government restraints on capital costs that forced the early railway planners to follow land contours that could be easily accommodated by the early steam locos of the period from 1855 onwards. Net result is that while yes you can enjoy the scenery onboard but in terms of competing with road and air places railways in NSW a very poor third behind road and air travel. For example a domestic flight between Sydney and Melbourne takes around 90 minutes where as The XPT covered the same distance in roughly 10 hours.
@greateraviationgl91
@greateraviationgl91 10 месяцев назад
Tackar så mycket! Tack! "Thank you so much! Thank you!" -Your friendly train guy from Sweden
@Zy_trex
@Zy_trex 10 месяцев назад
As a Swede I must say that I thank you for this!!!
@leightonolsson4846
@leightonolsson4846 10 месяцев назад
Good to see a video that makes it clear the tilting us for the comfort and stability of the coaches if the passengers and not actually required for higher speeds on curved track
@CreRay
@CreRay 10 месяцев назад
Interesting topic on a great train set. When you take a ride on the X2000 you notice the comfort is amazing, it has a really plush, supple ride. Super comfy seats aswell. Until recently I had no idea it had a tilting system, it just seems to glide at high speed- it works that well!
@paulashley2707
@paulashley2707 10 месяцев назад
Yet another excellent, highly informative video - thank you so much for sharing your brilliant documentaries! 😊
@polbecca
@polbecca 10 месяцев назад
And a noticeably more measured delivery too! 👍
@norlockv
@norlockv 10 месяцев назад
My wife always gets motion sickness on the x2000. I love it , i get a little chuckle when the beer bottles pop out of the coolers in dining cars when taking a bouncy curve.
@Kaspean-sea-monster
@Kaspean-sea-monster 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for video. I had a Roco model of this express in ICE livery. It's nise to remember my childhood) From Russia with love!
@danielparrott8339
@danielparrott8339 10 месяцев назад
Actually, although the train itself did not export much, the technology has been used alot. For example, the NSB BM73 is based on the X2, but with distributed power. PS...I love the retro footage in this video!
@hugolandberg7504
@hugolandberg7504 10 месяцев назад
Yes! Thank you for doing my favorite train from childhood!
@Alex-se4tk
@Alex-se4tk 10 месяцев назад
Happy to see one of my country's last own mmade projects before all train-related companies either got sold or bankrupted in the 1990s and forward
@bjornlillpers498
@bjornlillpers498 10 месяцев назад
I'm a Swedish driver but not currently qualified on the X2 (I hope to be in the not too distant future!). Just walking around the depot they have a very destinct aura around them. It's just something with the pretty brutal design and roaring fans when departing. I did drive it for two weeks during driver's training, and it's really something else. Going through curvy sections on the mainline at 180 km/h is something else, you're really flying while comfortably sipping your coffe (at least from the DVT...)!
@jim1997330
@jim1997330 7 месяцев назад
@bjornlillpers498 Curious~How's the feel while riding X2 locomotive side???? Feel uncomfy when it doesn't tilt ????
@bjornlillpers498
@bjornlillpers498 7 месяцев назад
@@jim1997330 It's fine when you're in the seat, but you have to hold on to your coffee on twisty sections. It's pretty loud as well
@jim1997330
@jim1997330 6 месяцев назад
@@bjornlillpers498 Thanks man, I finally got the answer I want (´▽`) Rare to see these unit ,locomotive + tilting carriages ~~~~
@TroublesomeSlateTruck
@TroublesomeSlateTruck 10 месяцев назад
Wow, That Train Is Fast.
@MartinIbert
@MartinIbert 10 месяцев назад
It's weird to hear the train category of ICE trains pronounced as a word: "ice". It's actually meant to be pronounced letter by letter: Eye- See- Eee. (Well, or in German, if you can master that.)
@MartinIbert
@MartinIbert 10 месяцев назад
@@BB-xx3dv It is definitely not the usual way of saying it.
@legacycontrast2258
@legacycontrast2258 10 месяцев назад
I ride these quite frequently and they are gems to ride on. And they are undergoing refurbishments currently that improves the comfort, smooth ness and reliability of the tilt system. However when the tilt system breaks down, is not fun.
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 10 месяцев назад
Funnily enough the tilt system was broken on the bistro car last time I traveled with x2000
@JBofBrisbane
@JBofBrisbane 10 месяцев назад
I had the opportunity to look over the X2000 set when it visited Brisbane in the nineties. It consisted of a driving trailer and two carriages, with motive and head-end power provided by two XPT power cars. I had to laugh at the "Conference Room" on board - two pairs of seats facing each other over a table, surrounded by a perspex enclosure. I immediately thought of the Cone Of Silence on Get Smart.
@ronik24
@ronik24 10 месяцев назад
Nice! 🙂 But... "largely mountaineous" 0:15 "Primarily mountaineous" 1:10 .... whaaaaaat? ;-) There might be a few mountains in the largely unpopulated Arctic northwest - otherwise Sweden's landscape is pretty low-lying. The word you are looking for at most is: hilly.
@folkeklarstrom3668
@folkeklarstrom3668 9 месяцев назад
It would be cool to see a video about the swedish regina trains. The regina trains are equivalemt to the british turbostars, being the backbone of regional services all over the country for over 20 years.
@peterelvery
@peterelvery 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. 2 points. Sweden is not mountainous. I think you meant radially steered bogies, not radically. I rode on the X2000 demonstration cars between Sydney and Moss Vale in NSW in the 1995. It was a Bistro and first class car between 2 local XPT locomotives which had each been fitted with the ABB tilt control system. We hit 160km/h a few times but had to slow through tunnels due to the narrower NSW loading gauge.
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 10 месяцев назад
Not mountainous, no, but it has a lot of humps and waterways.
@melesmelesfaber3866
@melesmelesfaber3866 7 месяцев назад
I'm just amazed by how much I used a train back in the 1980's and early 90's in the UK despite owning a car. It all sort of dropped off once moving to the SW of France. in 1993 80% of the rail network closed down (as with Beeching). My last train trip was with the TGV from from Avignon to Paris, and then Eurostar in 2014 to Charing Cross.....
@philbraithwaite1316
@philbraithwaite1316 10 месяцев назад
First introduced in 1990. Ironically this is posted in a week when HS2 to Manchester has been cancelled in the UK. Talk about being 30 odd years behind the curve.
@vernongoodey5096
@vernongoodey5096 10 месяцев назад
These aren’t exactly high speed trains as such your not getting 185mph here!
@philbraithwaite1316
@philbraithwaite1316 10 месяцев назад
@@vernongoodey5096 never mind speed they were first introduced in 1990. Years ahead of anything in the UK at the time. All that underinvestment under the Thatcher and subsequent governments left the UK light years behind rail travel on the continent especially France.
@vernongoodey5096
@vernongoodey5096 10 месяцев назад
@@philbraithwaite1316 as a railway engineer I’m sure the actual locomotives don’t tilt and the drivers would suffer from nausea, don’t no if they have cured this. Your correct with Mrs Thatcher in all her years as a politician she only ever travelled twice by rail and one of those was when she named a Class 87 after herself (good old Sir Peter Parker)
@otisreed8799
@otisreed8799 10 месяцев назад
The uk has had 200kph in regular service since 1976 so not that bad.
@vernongoodey5096
@vernongoodey5096 10 месяцев назад
@@philbraithwaite1316 hold on just realised the year you quoted, our HSTs that still hold the world speed record of 142mph we’re introduced wait for it in APRIL 1976. The genius design was that it ran on our old Victorian rail system at these speeds. & went from design to introduction within 4 years after the APT-E debacle
@TheRandCrews
@TheRandCrews 10 месяцев назад
Ahh yes the X2 or X2000, Swedish HST that toured US and Canada in the 1990s. Too bad nothing came out of it for Canada, while the US had Acela. There is the JetTrain, but that’s practically a farce practically following the TGV prototype backwards by going Electric to Turbine and never really went anywhere
@OntarioTrafficMan
@OntarioTrafficMan 10 месяцев назад
Yeah the JetTrain never made sense because the top speed of trains is hardly ever the limitation in North America. Doesn't matter what train you have, if there's a level crossing you can't exceed 110 mph (177 km/h). And if a government is going to invest billions to build a grade separated line, they'll probably pay to electrify it
@aveedub7403
@aveedub7403 10 месяцев назад
A great presentation, well announciated and a great deal of history and facts! Excellent!
@PaulSmith-pl7fo
@PaulSmith-pl7fo 10 месяцев назад
Hi Ruairidh. Very interesting video. It still sticks in my craw that BR did so much research and development into a tilting train, but could not get over the winning line. I heard that Italy had taken up the running, presumably culminating in the Pendolino. Therefore, it was with surprise that you didn't mention the Pendolino until almost the end and then almost in passing. I had no idea that Sweden had done so much work on the technology. By-the-by: Guangzhou is pronounced Guang-Jo and Chengdu is pronounced Chungdu.
@cabbepe
@cabbepe 10 месяцев назад
I had the pleasure to ride the new recently refurbished and upgraded version of X2000 from Gothenburg to Stockholm. It exceeded my expectations, though they were high. Nowadays you get breakfast, coffee/tea, water, snacks and fruit on first class. And you can order lunch.
@NJTCOMET
@NJTCOMET 10 месяцев назад
While I love the Acela, the X2000 would have been right at home on the Northeast Corridor. The corrugated stainless steel body compliment the AEM-7 / Amfleet stock perfectly, aswell as the Arrow/Silverliner EMU’s and ALP44 loco’s. Even the SJ livery looks very Amtrak like with its color scheme. Sometimes I wish that alternate history had occurred and we would have ended up with them…
@kw9849
@kw9849 10 месяцев назад
0:42 I'm reasonably sure that 90% of the trains here in Canada don't even go 80mph nowadays!
@Andrewjg_89
@Andrewjg_89 10 месяцев назад
Can see this being the predecessor of the APT Class 370 Tilting Train that was trialed on the West Coast Main Line before it never came into service. And the Class 390 Pendolinos are the successor of the Class 370 APT.
@drdewott9154
@drdewott9154 10 месяцев назад
Not really, the X2000 entered service several years after the APT.
@Andrewjg_89
@Andrewjg_89 10 месяцев назад
True. 👍
@user-sd3ik9rt6d
@user-sd3ik9rt6d 10 месяцев назад
3 years of testing.... maybe that's why it worked, looking at you British Rail
@kardy12
@kardy12 10 месяцев назад
Sweden a “largely mountainous nation”? The majority of it is fairly flat land, the mountains are there on the border with Norway.
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 10 месяцев назад
Yes and no. He has confused mountains and hills. We have plenty of hills :)
@sonjamikaela1277
@sonjamikaela1277 9 месяцев назад
i wouldnt be surprised if the script is AI generated since the voiceover is AI (based what i think is his own voice)
@1stdaybreaker707
@1stdaybreaker707 10 месяцев назад
I love the X2000!
@slavvy.mp4884
@slavvy.mp4884 10 месяцев назад
Its a real painful shame that the british class 370 APT never saw the success that the X2000 saw.
@jacbon72
@jacbon72 9 месяцев назад
Partial video that tells history of failed prototypes that had no commercial follow-up and ignores the true story of a 50-year success. The technology of the "titling train" called "Pendolino" is an entirely Italian invention and patent. In 1985, engineer Santanera filed a patent application for the Fiat Ferroviaria company, entitled "Railway vehicle for high speeds with variable trim body", granted with the number IT1183754B. This used 2 gyroscopes by aeronautical equipment (FIAT avio) and accelerometers, placed on the first bogie of the train. A computer, depending on the speed, calculated the inclination to be given to each individual carriage, when it reached the curve. The first Etr 401 "Pendolino" entered service between Rome and Ancona in 1976! Since 1988, with the Etr 450, they entered regular service, forming the backbone of the Italian 250km/h AV (high speed). Over 30 electric trains (ETR) were built of the 450,460,470 and 480 series. The FIAT railway patent was purchased by Alstom in 2000 for 300 million euros! Titling train manufactured by Altom around the world are built on the original Fiat patent.
@Foxo1441
@Foxo1441 10 месяцев назад
funny enough ive seen the x2000 in our museum. the X2000 from china is in gävle in Järnvägsmusét currently.
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 10 месяцев назад
Lol
@joellamoureux7914
@joellamoureux7914 10 месяцев назад
I lived in Baltimore MD during the time period described here. I unfortunately never heard of it until now. I wish that wasnt the case. I would have lived to take a ride!
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 10 месяцев назад
The Electroliner / Liberty Liner of the current Millenium. Rory, do a video on this train, please. Both examples are found in museums in the USA.
@Swissair171
@Swissair171 10 месяцев назад
May I suggest the AEM-7 and the SBB-CFF-FFS Re 460 as potential topics for future videos?
@sjokomelk
@sjokomelk 10 месяцев назад
There is a Norwegian variant of the Re460 known as EL18. Popular name "The loaf", since it has the shape of a loaf of white bread. 😁
@brokeafengineerwannabe2071
@brokeafengineerwannabe2071 10 месяцев назад
As a Hong Konger, I could possibly add something more to the Chinese export story. Part of the reason for the demise is that the Swedish firm did not provide regular electrical maintenance as part of the leasing contract. As a result, the Guangzhou railway group had to sort problems out on its own by sourcing components from both overseas and local reverse-engineering. The lack of proper support had raised the maintenance cost drastically over the years, while the train had grown to be incompatible with the newly renovated Guangshen railway when the Bombardier-designed CRH1 was in service (And subsequently the entire built-from-the-ground-up Chinese HSR). So X2000 quickly fell out of place after numerous failures. However, in retrospect, this train serves as an important landmark in Chinese HSR history as it was the intermediate product of slow mainline trains and the full-fledged dedicated HSR lines. It also teaches the Chinese how not to run imported models as later on they simply bought the right to manufacture the trains in China under the original maker's guidance.
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 10 месяцев назад
Very informative, and apparently, the train set was bought back and put in the Järnvägsmuseét (railway museum) in Gävle.
@torgeirbrandsnes1916
@torgeirbrandsnes1916 10 месяцев назад
Great vlog as always! We have no rail service in Norway to speak of. 3% of total land mass is farmland. Can you please do a vlog on EA shuttle service between BOS-LGA-DCA v.v. I have tried to find info and/or books on the matter. EA was one of a few US airlines I never got to fly. I heard that you could get onboard, and buy the ticket from the cabin crew. Keep up the good work!
@CathodeRayNipplez
@CathodeRayNipplez 10 месяцев назад
0:21 That track is drunk.
@iskra1234
@iskra1234 10 месяцев назад
Great video! I've been lucky enough to travel on one of these trains and it was a great experience! Thank you for the endless stream of high quality videos on classic trains. Any chance of one on the class 91/Intercity 225 before they leave service please?
@negasinegasigp40
@negasinegasigp40 9 месяцев назад
X2000 is now in America on the northeast corridor but soon it retired 😊
@SummerADDE_Elevators
@SummerADDE_Elevators 10 месяцев назад
2:32 X15 is NOT based on X1 unit, but by X5 units, wich the picture above correctly shows. The X1 units was also tested for tilting technology, but did not become an X15. Some X1 and X10 commuter train units can be seen at 5:39 next to the X2000 in Stockholm Central.
@martyn6792
@martyn6792 10 месяцев назад
Interesting video, a shame we didn't perfect the APT
@stephenjcuk7562
@stephenjcuk7562 10 месяцев назад
What could have been...🇬🇧
@fanofhiro808
@fanofhiro808 10 месяцев назад
Since your going up north, would it be possible for you to maybe cover some Danish stuff? (yes, dane here). I think the IC3 and IC4 would be very interesting choices. Excellent video btw
@matsv201
@matsv201 10 месяцев назад
"Sweden primarily mountainous terrain" What? where? There are plenty of small hills, but barley any mountains. Apart from up in the north west, but there is no railways. The reason for not wanting a France style solution is simply that it was at this time not deemed a economical to build a full extra track for as little traffic as would be needed. This kind of have come bit and bite Sweden now with a large capacity shortage.
@737mg
@737mg 10 месяцев назад
"There goes a train" clip 10:03
@thekidfromcleveland3944
@thekidfromcleveland3944 10 месяцев назад
I got a mighty soft spot fot this train
@per-olamjomark7452
@per-olamjomark7452 10 месяцев назад
"The nation's largely mountainous terrain", really? Sweden's topography consists mainly of flat or gently rolling lowlands (but there are mountains in its western areas near Norway). Tha mainline railways in Sweden from the 19th century were adapted to the terrain if necessary, like lakes.
@emilpersson8250
@emilpersson8250 10 месяцев назад
It was not the X1 class that were rebuilt for tilting train trials it was the older 1948 built X5 that were rebuilt into the X15 for trials.
@nigelparker5886
@nigelparker5886 10 месяцев назад
Laying the banked track couldn’t have been too easy!? Cheers
@Mauscmkwk
@Mauscmkwk 10 месяцев назад
The one that went to the us is STILL ain’t service
@gab_v250
@gab_v250 10 месяцев назад
I'd like to see you cover Italy's Pendolino, which after the Alstom acquisition of Fiat Ferroviaria, is present on many high speed EMUs across Europe (though not much used)
@trainluvr
@trainluvr 10 месяцев назад
I made an un-narrated Pendolino compilation.
@robertbalazslorincz8218
@robertbalazslorincz8218 10 месяцев назад
The TGV looks like they ripped the X2000 off but couldn't manage to figure out leaning into curves... if it only made sense timeline-wise.
@stevecooksley
@stevecooksley 10 месяцев назад
It's a damn fine train in the same way that the Volvo is a damn fine car.
@TheHylianBatman
@TheHylianBatman 10 месяцев назад
Lovely!!
@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer
@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer 10 месяцев назад
I would have loved to see an X2000 in Amtrak colors.
@stefansoder6903
@stefansoder6903 10 месяцев назад
Great video, but you got that bit about mountainous terrain all wrong. The populated parts of Sweden is not mountainous at all. The reason the lines are so bendy is because it was cheaper and faster to build them going around lakes and other obstacles. No substantial new lines had been built since the 19th century.
@Penrowe
@Penrowe 10 месяцев назад
Sweden has barely any mountains. Certainly nowhere near any of the lines where the x2000 operates.
@peter_kelly
@peter_kelly 10 месяцев назад
I rather wonder if ABB's primary intent with the X2 was to sell it to Amtrak. That Budd Company corrugated stainless steel body look is an unmistakable nod to the Amfleet car.
@norlockv
@norlockv 10 месяцев назад
Amtrak trialed the x2000 in 92-93 on the north east corridor.
@Rodoeht12345
@Rodoeht12345 10 месяцев назад
Today, as they're over 30 years old, the reliability is not what it used to be, the X2 is now the most problem-prone train sets that SJ has, even surpassing the notorious X40 double-deckers from France. But SJ has started to overhaul the fleet by rebuilding them, both technically and cosmetically and the "new" units are almost like a brand new train making it possible to run them at least 20 more years, if not more
@darksars3622
@darksars3622 10 месяцев назад
This chanel is the last hold out aginest nabuler and main stream documentory chanels
@colingraham1065
@colingraham1065 10 месяцев назад
The APT was so nearly there but rushed into use too soon due to meddling politicians!
@rosumin38
@rosumin38 10 месяцев назад
The APT done correctly.
@turiboi08
@turiboi08 9 месяцев назад
X2000
@navinkuckian1926
@navinkuckian1926 9 месяцев назад
🕉️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️🙏🕉️🙏
@volvos60bloke
@volvos60bloke 10 месяцев назад
I do wish you'd slow down and relax your delivery.
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 10 месяцев назад
I seem to recall that, the UK effort was a failure?
@Antesyd
@Antesyd 9 месяцев назад
Or. The Vomiting machine as we call it in Sweden...
@neutrino68
@neutrino68 9 месяцев назад
No actually we don't.
@huwzebediahthomas9193
@huwzebediahthomas9193 10 месяцев назад
Nothing more than the basic flight control system found in simple autopiloted passenger aircraft - a directional XY gyroscope box with a couple of rate gyros, all feeding servo type motors for tilting.
@CreRay
@CreRay 10 месяцев назад
..... yet all others before who attempted to implement this, failed!
@peterelvery
@peterelvery 10 месяцев назад
Nothing like it actually. The autopilot has been around for around 100 years. It has the luxury of time and empty airspace in order correct for deviations from the straight and constant speed flight path of its single "carriage". By contrast, the tilt control is not concerned with the direction of travel. It's there to maintain the comfort and safety of the passengers by constantly monitoring changes in track cant, curvature & gradient, vehicle speed, acceleration & roll - then calculating the precise duration and force required for each of the 20 hydraulic rams along the length of the train and actuating those commands in real time before repeating the process all over again in the next half second.
@macjonte
@macjonte Месяц назад
Too bad there is no Swedish train development anymore. :(
@danielboone3770
@danielboone3770 10 месяцев назад
😍😍😍😍😍🤩🤩
@a.yashwanth
@a.yashwanth 9 месяцев назад
Why not tilt the tracks instead of train, like how its done for roads?
@davebowman6497
@davebowman6497 9 месяцев назад
Eg, the cost of re-building several thousand kilometers of track. Also possibly the camber becoming uncomfortable on slow trains.
@rob5944
@rob5944 10 месяцев назад
Why can't we get trains right in the UK????
@yakovgolyadkin
@yakovgolyadkin 10 месяцев назад
One very minor correction: when spoken about, the ICE trains of Germany are not called "ice", the individual letters are said.
@martinmuller2809
@martinmuller2809 10 месяцев назад
This is only done to fool the germans who love their Internal Combustion Engines. To pronunce it ice is OK. Failing AC and Heating are still common in Germany: Ladies and Tschentlemän, due to a malfunction the heating has failed
@macjonte
@macjonte Месяц назад
km/h please..
@Thomas_TdK
@Thomas_TdK 10 месяцев назад
small detail, that is not how you pronounce ICE
@fontenbleau
@fontenbleau 10 месяцев назад
miles per hour? i thought Sweden is metric, esp in 1980s. not counting no one understands this imperial units in EU who watch now.
@TheExileFox
@TheExileFox 10 месяцев назад
It is metric, but what if this content creator is American?
@kiwitrainguy
@kiwitrainguy 9 месяцев назад
He's British, they still haven't caught up yet.@@TheExileFox
@chi-8289
@chi-8289 9 месяцев назад
Tilting trains with electronics were not pioneered by Britain at all even though the first shabby implementation was done there and passengers complained and stopped it. 30 years before any Briton could even think about it, the Germans had such ideas. Maybe the Brits stole some of it like most of their technology which is stolen. Then in the 1950s, the Japanese thought about it but later decided for dedicated tracks. In the 1960s, the French were also interested in it but quickly gave up the idea for dedicated tracks Only on these lines and only after Spain and Canada implemented those, the British could even think about such ideas. This is the issue with Brits. You talk about any science, they'll bring an unnecessary lie about some British link. Come one guy, you couldn't build a proper car or motorcycle which works, then why big big claims?
@drstevenrey
@drstevenrey 10 месяцев назад
Switzerland here. Ours don't work. Why. ABB is partly Swiss. But we don't have ABB systems. We have Italian trains because these were 6 pence cheaper, and those don't work right, ever. It is a complete disaster. Sadly the Swiss rail system today is run by complete imbeciles.
@mdhazeldine
@mdhazeldine 10 месяцев назад
Ha funny. As someone from the UK, I've always been jealous of the Swiss railway system. It is run fantastically. So punctual and clean, with services so well integrated with buses and boats. I guess perspective is all relative, but trust me, on the whole, you guys have it very good. I think the only exception is HSR, but then you are a small country, so not a huge deal.
@sjokomelk
@sjokomelk 10 месяцев назад
The "BB" of "ABB" is Swiss. The A is "ASEA". But ABB sold of their part of the rail business to Daimler to form AdTranz, that in turn got acquired by Bombardier and later Alstom.
@onlyonewhyphy
@onlyonewhyphy 10 месяцев назад
I'm genuinely curious if you have any females in your viewing demographics? This seems like such a specific male-interest topic, I cannot imagine women being interested. My girlfriend certainly wasn't 😁
@avigdonable
@avigdonable 10 месяцев назад
@@CathodeRayNipplezgood topic, will investigate for more.
@susieare
@susieare 10 месяцев назад
I'm a female 🤗 my hubby suggested this channel so I subscribed. This is the first video I clicked on, because I love X2000s :)
@onlyonewhyphy
@onlyonewhyphy 10 месяцев назад
@@susieare question answered. Thanks
@susieare
@susieare 10 месяцев назад
Next question... am I the only one? 😂
@onlyonewhyphy
@onlyonewhyphy 10 месяцев назад
@@susieare......yes 😅
@Raj-nh3fc
@Raj-nh3fc 10 месяцев назад
Sweden a mountainous nation? 😂 Boy you know nothing about Sweden.
@AndrewRoberts11
@AndrewRoberts11 9 месяцев назад
A nation with the courage to fix BR's APT tartan interior, the imposed Scottish cuisine, and several other niggles, that made its tilting forbear repulsive to many a rail and fashion journalists, if not many of those cursed with sight, or taste buds.
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