I love how Tim hits those inhuman low notes of his while the sound check and the rest of the a capella are just like: *nothing strage going on here, theres just a demon inside him, nothing out of the ordinary* and then there are the viewers who are like: *woah, somebody get an exorcist...or not, it´s somehow very pleasing* . Love it.
He loves how I hit those low notes (F#3, G3, G#3, A3, Bb3, B3, C4, C#4, D4, Eb4, E4 and F4), lowest note (F#3) in chest voice and lowest note (F#5) in head voice of my while the sound check and the rest of the acapella are just like: nothing stranger going on there. There is not just a demon inside me at all, nothing out of the ordinary and then there are the viewers who are like: whoa, somebody get an exorcist...or not. It is somehow very pleasing. I love it.
Tim and Geoff has basically the same overall range, but Geoff's chest sounding so resonant down to A1 which he has done live, but Tim made up for it by mixing chest+fry which sounded great. But at their lowest, they are the best at their own techniques like Tim's growl and Geoff's subharmonic.
HopeLess Ant Tim uses subharmonics too - that’s the proper term for ‘growl’ notes. Tim has a higher head and falsetto range than Geoff. Tim’s tone is also rounder than Geoff’s
HopeLess Ant- I’m pretty sure now Geoff range has lowered a bit. I think he has a Ab1-G1 everyday now. Because he has been chesting notes around Ab1-G1 all the time. He has that G everyday, but some days it’s louder or more consistent.
Craig Williams Sometimes I wish I could hear a song like that! Almost 20 years of musical training means I hear all the parts and not the song as a whole
@@rachelpuckeridge6938 That's how I am with stories, whether watching a movie, reading a book, or whatever. I am constantly dissecting the writing style. It sometimes requires real effort to just sit back and enjoy it.
It is difficult unless he is singing a solo vocal, because the other voices pull your attention away from the bass as they are easier to distinguish. Some of the really low notes are almost a low background humming sound...
@Niranjan Rajesh No. Controversial if you were to listen to the RU-vid version, but if you download the "I want crazy" from SingOff that's definitely a F1 chest. Edit: I was an idiot yay
@@Honey_Beef that F1 it's probably a very chesty, continuous, deep and smooth note in fry voice, with that type of fry voice, we can use vowels, and words, if we maintain that yeye of fry voice, it's like deep, controlled whistle voice that sound like head voice, but it's really in the whistle voice mechanism (M3)
Now that tim is using his subharmonics, future vocal range videos could be very interesting. Given his taste for fry already, I can see him passing Geoff in range sometime. I’ve found that I can sing subharmonic notes from chest fry, lower than my lowest chest.
Now that Tim is using his subharmonics, future vocal range videos could be very interesting. Given his taste for fry already, I can see him passing Geoff in range sometimes. I've found that I can sing notes that are subharmonic and I don't sing vocal fry. I sing my lowest chest note (F#3).
I think its conversely. When I filtered sound in my video editor I heard leading voice (Austin) singing G#4 and there was also one voice higher which sang Tim for moment.
BadamB B ya that’s kinda tough to tell, but the more I listen to it I kinda sounds like Tim hitting the B4, if it is actually him then he stays up there for a while lol
You should do Geoff next. He recently hit a subharmonic B0 in "Warriors". Also, how about doing the vocal range of... David Larson??? He has hit a subharmonic A-1 on camera in his video about singing below the bottom of the piano. I think it was the 3rd or 4th subharmonic. Absolutely insane!
4:09 I think this is growl, but I'm not sure. Notice how the slide sort of skips notes before the actual G#. 4:56 I'm pretty sure is growl. 7:01 I'm just going off of what I'm hearing (I have perfect pitch), but his voice is commonly lowered an octave in post editing and layered under his voice, and I think the lowest note he hits is a C2 here. I could very well be wrong. Also saw "Children Go, Where I Send Thee" in this. RIP Kenny Rogers.
I have perfect pitch too. But I am still not too good in discerning techniques. 7:01 I think it"s not edited, but it"s true that everybody can hear something different on this.
Heres my question. Why would Tim use growl to hit the G#1 when he can hit that with chest? I feel like chest sounds better. Bass singers please provide me with knowledge, as I am a beginning bass, and need more info. Thx!
Home Free has playlist with Behind the scenes where plays in background the song - the video is making of. But many of those videos Home Free put out and now it"s impossible to find them, because those videos weren"t published. But one guy, who made Tim"s vocal range over 1 year ago still has the link for that Behind the scenes, so it"s still possible to play thisone. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OrbwoE-mubg.html
Sorry but this is the only link I know how to get. The other videos Home Free put out from their playlist and now its impossible to find them. The only one chance is find somebody on youtube who has some more this behind the scenes videos on his playlist.
@@shagstars True, it is not nearly as audible as higher notes. However, it certainly isn't the barrier. I've heard notes in the -2 octave, so we can hear lower. Kinda.
4:10 is growl. If you listen closely he transitions just before the G#. I can’t see any way the house party Eb1 are chest. He’s not demonstrated any ability to sing below a G1 in chest at the absolute lowest. If they are chest, they’d be heavily chest fry mix with a lot of gain on in post. Think a little less A0 is definitely an A1 at 10:27. Nice job for amending the A-1 :)
I agree if he could even possibly go that low in chest there would be more than one instance of him hitting an F#1 and at least one or two examples of him hitting an F1 or E1
Cullen Lee they might be chest fry, but he’s still hitting them for only a split second each. You can reach below your normal lowest chest if it’s for a short moment, so I’m guessing that’s what Tim did, but he’s had multiple recordings of him hitting chest F#1’s and F1’s. They’re from live shows though so that’s why you normally don’t see them in videos like these, plus he hid a chest fry E1 in Can’t Stop The Feeling so I think it’s definitely possible that they’re chest Eb1’s in house party
Chest B4... who makes these videos? He's so obviously in his mix well before E4. The G#4s in The Best That I Could Do and the Bb4 in On My Way home are two notes where you can really clearly hear that mix sound. His E4's in Hear What I Hear are very heady as well.
12:11 an A-1 is already in infrasound, so its nonsense even to manage them 'cause they aren't there, it's lower, than human ear can detect and lower than any speakers are capable of producing.
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I reach D2 in chest voice, how i can reach a lower note without sound a demon and can't pronunciate a word? I mean, a clean bass sound, pls help Edit: how can ampliate my chest note, because in growl note i reach G1 or F1
Push the sound into your nose as low as you can go to resonate, maybe start with a nice comfortable low note so f2-g2 and push on that then work your way down, ypu might only be able to resonate an f2, with me i can only resonate a c#2 but can sing a b1, those last few notes will always be yhe hardest but be vigilant, remember it doesnt matter how low you can go if it doesnt sound good so work on that
Try relaxing... alot. It might feel counter intuitive at first. Try extending your neck as if your trying to look over a crowd of people. Slowly slide the pitch down and don't tense up your throat. Keep your larynx down. Ultimate relaxation is the key to a strong bass sound that projects. You wont be able to go as low, but the sound will project further.
@Niranjan Rajesh you just start singing a bass note then make it a little sloppy but make it sound nice. Its hard to explane if your not a bass singer your self.
Niranjan Rajesh hi so what Nicholas is trying to say is that those B1’s are pure chest notes, but Tim has the ability to add a “fry effect” or whatnot on his voice. This is still pure chest, but with a sloppy-some timbre which, for the song, kinda fits perfectly for the feeling (coming from a bass😁)
Niranjan Rajesh you can add a “fry effect” by tightening you vocal cords. just sing a low bass note and after you got that, tighten your vocal cords so you can have that effect going on. that way, it is still a pure chest note, but with a nasty fry effect ;)
Niranjan Rajesh I wouldn’t say A1. Counting his two live F1s in Your Man and I want crazy live as growl (they could be chest), and the F#1 in the butts remix as fry (they probably aren’t), his lowest chest note should be G1, shown in Grandma Got Runover by a Reindeer live (which is chest, even after a slide). So G1/F#1 at least. But you can’t say the same with Geoff Castellucci. He’ve clearly gone under A1 and G1 in chest so many times
Great video (as always). I still don't agree on the chest Eb1. Like the A-1, i think the Eb1 is an edited effectof some sort. And i don't think there is an A0 in sold either, it's actually an A1 and E2 sung together to form a 'manual' subharmonic and become and A0. It's the same effect on the "B0" from Voiceplay's warriors, a B1 and F#2. creating the illusion of a B0.
In this form how I listen to it I would say that Eb1 is chest. I don"t have any close information about this note and even if I boosted those Eb1"s I didn"t hear any air noise or vibrating. A-1 is nonsense I know. And I would agree with you about A0 in Sold. I didn"t think about that before. Thanks :)
@@badamb401 It is possible that "house party" wasn't completely acapella. I don't think the Eb1 was growled or subharmonic or chest because i don't think Tim sung the note. I think it could either be an sub-octave pedal (an effect) on max volume or it wasn't produced with the human voice at all. In voiceplay's older version of "this is halloween" i though that Geoff was chesting the backround C#1's but i was clearly mistaken. And Home free uses the sub-octave effect all the time on their bass.
how exactly did you come to the conclusion that he was singing a C0 when he broke the sound system? a C0 is well below the human hearing threshold (its 16 hz whikle human hearing cuts out at 20hz or an E0) and its not even like he was singing into a mic specifically build to record the frequencies we cant hear. it was just on a phone, so how exactly did you come to the decision it was a C0 and not any other arbitrary un-hearable note, especially sense notes like G0, F0 and E0 are so barely distinguishable on their own?
In this depth I can"t say that I HEAR the note more like I FEEL the note. I had feeling of C in those voice clicks in Tim"s fry. Also depends on kind of sound you hear. Most people are talking about E0, because of soundwaves showed for counting frequency, but if you take for example piano, there is possible to hear lower then E0. If you saw video showing piano with extra keys, there is a guy showing this extra tones where the lowest is C0. And it"s pretty easy to listen to it.
@@badamb401 on the video of the piano i saw with extra keys, the notes became completely indistinguishable past an E0, with a commenter pointing out that you could only hear the carious harmonics of the note because human hearing cuts out by that point. the fry pops are indeed a C but ive yet to see it said that vocal fry pops are an octave higher than the tone underneath. i may have just not seen it anywhere and it would certainly make sense considering vocal frys relation to subharmonics, but ive simlly yet to see it.
It’s not really melodic at all. He just chose a random note and it happened to be C0. There was no intent behind it and he doesn’t really hold and he just slides up
It is an A0. Put it in Audacity, cut the treble and pitch it up. Whether it was by Tim or not, it was an A0. Although, Tim IS singing a sustained note during the A0, so I personally think it is him... He can totally do it
I don’t know anything about music or scales so telling me what note he’s singing doesn’t compute. Maybe after the video you could show the scale and where his low notes are.
