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Timex Electric (M40 and related) movement Review and Deep Dive

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This video on a high level goes over the functioning of the Vintage Timex M40 and similar watch movements. I also give my opinion of the watch series in general!
This took ages to write and shot!I had to actually split the video into 2 videos, as I mention in the end I'll be making a video going over how to do some work on these things as it's a bit different than on a conventional watch. However keep in mind I'm no horologist, just a dude who likes watches. A LOT.
Anyways how for the credits and links
1) I found the ad here - www.oldmagazin...
2) I did actually quote a wiki - en.wikipedia.o...
3) I used this inflation calculator - www.usinflatio...
4) The repair manual can be found here (so read ahead if you don't want to wait on me to make a video, also it detail the other mechanical bits I don't go over in the video) - www.mcbroom.biz...
5) Here are links to 2 videos that I think explain mechanical watches well!
• How a Mechanical Watch...
• HOW IT WORKS: Mechanic...
As always thanks! If you have any questions let me know!

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@estebanlopez9236 2 года назад

This is very educational. I like how he shows the simple diagram which helps bring the quartz function with these mechanical and battery operational watch .

@amphibiousone7972 4 дня назад

Electric watches are, Electric driven , Mechanically Regulated, Contact Point Impulse Watch. Much much different from a Quartz. An Electronic watch is virtually the same as an electric, however a transistor is incorporated into the power control system. Great overview. I like the old electrics too.

@richardbrunelle7517 2 года назад

The first watch I ever bought myself was a Timex Electric around 1970. I still have it in my (very small) collection. In the past I've tried to revive it with no luck. I tried again a few weeks ago. After coaxing it along for about 20 minutes it finally ran on it's own and has continued to run. I ordered a new leather strap and will put it in my watch box to show in my collection. Thanks for the information and video on this watch movement!

@paulberk2264 Год назад

Same story here - first watch I bought with my own money, in 1972. I stopped wearing it sometime during the 80s and when I tried using it again, it wasn't reliable. A service wasn't effective. I just bought a NOS movement and had a local person replace it in the watch. Holding my breath!

@paulberk2264 Год назад

I just had mine revived with a NOS M41. The watch guy said it was a lot of work! The watch was dead accurate when I was wearing it regularly during the 70s and early 80s. With the NOS calibre it seems to be losing not quite a minute a day. My thinking is not to fuss with the watch too much. I'm happy it's working again.

@josephchong7531 3 месяца назад

Awesome 👍 Thank you very much!

@sethjohnson4845 Год назад

Thank you so much for making this video. I saw an old Timex that my grandfather owned and I assumed that “Electric” just meant quartz. I don’t know much at all about how watches actually work but even I got the gist of what makes these particular movements unique from this video.

@christicks5843 Год назад

Thanks for watching! I'm glad it was informative! These watches are very neat and come from an pretty cool period of timekeeping!

@Coggdaddy Год назад

Great video! I am somewhat of a newbie horology guy and was given one of these watches by my mother in law that belonged to her father. I new absolutely nothing about them until watching your video. Hopefully, it will start ticking with a fresh battery.

@christicks5843 Год назад

Thanks! Hope the electric fires right up for you! If not give it a light tap and see if that gets it going!

@Coggdaddy Год назад

@@christicks5843 thanks. Unfortunately, it didn’t work. Oh well. It was worth a shot.

@christicks5843 Год назад

@@Coggdaddy ah that sucks :(

@inrangerimfire20two Год назад

What a great video, very thorough and informative

@paulberk2264 Год назад

Also, thanks for the excellent video!

@cchristens1 3 года назад

Nice video, well done. I just picked up a Q Day Date, thinking the Day part isn't functioning right though, it just slowly pans throughout the 24 hr cycle, versus the date that snaps into place at midnight? Still its an interesting innovation for the era for sure!

@christopherchang4167 3 года назад

Nice, yeah haha the date advance on them is pretty basic but pretty ingenious given how few parts it has. But yeah modern snappy advance it is not!

@pibbanon1987 Год назад

Some of the later Q models from the late 70's, such as the falcon eye were given stainless cases and a crude quickset mechanism for the calendar. For many of the stainless case models, it also appears that Timex also tried to emulate the case and dial designs that many Japanese quartz watches had at the time.

@100amps 3 года назад

Cool. I didn't know about these and I grew back then. Wasn't paying attention I guess. Really interesting videos, Chris. And it sounds like you're Canadian too. Subbed.

@christicks5843 3 года назад

Thanks! And I am!

@DroppingIn Год назад

Thank you for the video. P This was a very helpful explanation of an electric timex.

@apoorvsaxena3886 2 года назад

Very informative thanks for sharing 👌

@_Brohan Год назад

EXTREMEMLY difficult to change the movement on if you get battery corrosion all over one. you have to take off (at least partially) the hairspring to remove the crown stem to replace the movement. trying to do this now, waiting for the replacement to come.

@christopherchang4167 Год назад

Hmm you shouldn't need to remove the hairspring to get the crown out there are 2 holes you can put a set tweezers in that'll release the stem. I'll see if I can find a picture or take one to demonstrate.

@jB..33b854 Год назад

Great! Thank you

@dns711 2 года назад

Is the Q Quartz really a quartz regulated mechanical watch? That sounds similar to a Seiko Spring Drive. Obviously a Timex quartz regulated mechanical could not compare to a Seiko Spring Drive, but I would like to see a comparison.

@christicks5843 2 года назад

Good day, yup! It is the regulation though is a totally different technique to the spring drive. Where the Q Quartz is more or less a electric watch employing a proper balance with a quartz module shoved between the circuit to modify impulse timing the Spring drive mechanism looks to take the function of the balance/escapement entirely using their tri-syncro regulator mechanism

@davidstone9518 2 года назад

Great video. I share you love of these as well

@julesd.8973 2 года назад

Thanks for another awesome Timex tutorial. I've really learned alot from your work and appreciate your love of their seriously misunderstood and under appreciated watch movements. I was looking for the follow up video on common issues that you mention at the end. Did that ever happen?

@christicks5843 2 года назад

Good day, unfortunately I have bot done a follow up with common issues but i may do that as part of a new video im currently drafting a script on the Q Quartz movements which are extremely similar.

@julesd.8973 2 года назад

@@christicks5843 look forward to it. I currently work on strictly mechanical Timexes but would like to expand my skill set. Thanks again.

@frankporfidio9813 Месяц назад

Hi Chris , I was just looking through the Timex M40 service manual and it says " no silicone oil" that's all I see ,is this out of date now? what should you use on these ? Thanks

@jonconlon5440 Год назад

I look at tons of watch tutorials on Utube and you are one of the most professional. Thanks for all your great, hard work on your presentations. Can you please tell me the replacement batteries for the Timex type C and type A battery?

@christicks5843 Год назад

Thanks, Hmm looks like for Type C the AG5, I am unable to find many details of the Type A though, got a link to a photo or any more details?

@jonconlon5440 Год назад

@@christicks5843 Thanks so much, Chris. The type C was the real mystery to me; you solved it. and made my day brighter. I think to type A is a 357. I saw someone else mention that on RU-vid.

@sadro4591 3 года назад

I like vintage timex what i like more is the dials really shine i have a day date one, i bought it for 3 bucks on a flea market it's was kinda rusted but after cleaning and leave it the movment on hot alcohol and acetone started running on 46 seconds a day, beautiful watches but the dial feats are to fragile they are easy breakable

@christicks5843 3 года назад

True. Yeah they are pretty fragile but hey 46 seconds a day isn't bad!

@Toph378 Год назад

Canuck bucks, too funny. I also live in Canada and have a 1978 electric day date. I’ve recently had this watch handed down to me and wonder where to have it serviced. My local watchmaker refused to have a look and stated it wasn’t worth repairing.

@christicks5843 Год назад

Haha thanks. Cool Hmm does it need a total overhaul? There aren't a huge amount of people fixing these sadly. That's kind of why I just started doing it myself. If you want we can try to trouble shoot the watch a bit here.

@Fastxfords99 Год назад

I have one that I'm serving now, and it's very unique, and I'm positive that it's beyond my skillset as of the current time lol.

@christicks5843 Год назад

It is pretty odd looking but when you look past the crude look you can see all the elements of a regular watch there! If you have done work on a regular manual wind watch I have no doubt you'd be able to do these! The only tricky thing is the magnet and over torquing the screws. If you have a perticular spot where you need help reach out! I'll try my best!

@OffGridInvestor 2 года назад

OH GREAT. I might be getting a bunch of timex watches, I think like 13 or 15 in a batch. I have been highly interested in the Soviet luch 3055 movement which is something like this. Good to know that I might have some coming. There's a woman's timex (dead) coming in another batch.

@buggerit Год назад

i love the old timex electric watches

@1rightrev 4 месяца назад

Thanks! I just bought a Timex Electric. Movement says 22D. I am learning watch repair (hobby) and I have just serviced a Seiko Elnix. What battery does this use and is 22D in fact movement number? (I tried an LR 44 but not running.) This has a metallic "cowl" that goes between the movement and the case back. Do they need to be in place in order for this to run?

@christicks5843 4 месяца назад

I am not aware of a call 22D. I don't think that it is a movement number. The LR44 should work. The cover is not needed for it to run.

@jorge32421 4 месяца назад

I just came up on a few tumex vintage watches

@douglasskinner 2 года назад

You mentioned that you had a video where you address problems/issues with repairing Timex Electrics, but it doesn't appear to be posted yet. I have several of them that don't work. They look okay but when I put in a fresh battery noting happens.

@christopherchang4167 2 года назад

Good day. Sorry about that. The video is one that is planned but likely won't be for a while until I get use to shooting macro video. A lot of the time though the contactor needs to be cleaned or replaced with one that is in better condition. Also check the contact point on the balance. Sometimes they are corroded.

@RH-se5bm 2 года назад

Can you explain regulating the Model 40. Which way to move the lever to either speed up or slow down the movement. Thanks

@christicks5843 2 года назад

Good day, This should be pretty similar to mechanical watches, I'm not sure how much leeway the regulating lever actually gives but I've attached an image depicting the general directions for speeding up or slowing down drive.google.com/file/d/1iKBw5F9FSGImDqg-4Oeens9KDbsnKCRi/view?usp=sharing I'd try to keep the regulation to within the little cut out given on the movement covers. The watch is pretty unforgiving and with the cover removed you can basically whack that regulating lever as far as you'd like and potentially warp the hairspring a bit. I've done that before. Luckily you can generally spot if you are getting a bit too far with the lever (given the battery is out and the movement isn't running), you'll start to see the hairspring bunch up on one side, don't let it do that. Good luck!

@cloudcitydigital 2 года назад

Hi, I have a 1978 Q Quartz which has a bad movement, I would like to remove it and actually try to shoehorn a different quart movement in, just for fun. Can I take the movement out though the back, or does it come out through the front?

@christopherchang4167 2 года назад

Good morning. You generally need to go through the front to get the movement out. Basically. Remove the stem, use a crystal lift then the movement should drop out (tighten the lift a lot as the crystals I have pulled out tend to have one hell of a lip). Additionally on most models there is a little metal retaining between the dial and crystal, keep note of the orientation it's in (up or down) so when you put the crystal back on it sits properly. Goodluck!

@cloudcitydigital 2 года назад

@@christopherchang4167 Thank you this was incredibly helpful!

@righteyeblink8996 3 года назад

Would there be an where to oil video coming soon ?

@christicks5843 3 года назад

There is one in the works! These ones aren't tooooo bad.

@tommottram5968 2 года назад

I have a Timex electric model 42 world timer quartz that runs intermittently. What could be the problem I replaced the battery?

@christicks5843 2 года назад

Good day. It could be a few things but in general the movement probably needs a general service. Otherwise the contactor may need to be cleaned if the balance appears to move freely. Additionally if there is wobble the bridge may need tightening just enough to reduce the wobble. Those tend to be what I commonly see.

@tommottram5968 2 года назад

@@christicks5843 thank you, your video was very informative also.