Nice to see someone who not only has interest in books but also has keen observation. Would love to see more!!! Request: if you have the Bone collection written by Jeff Smith please make a review of it!
Awesome video, loved the comparison. So many more changes than I thought there would be, and I loved the details you brought out that I would never have noticed. Thanks!
Thanks so much for watching and the positive comments; this really makes my day! If you're interested, check out the various edition comparisons we have (including one of Tintin in America) in this playlist:ru-vid.com/group/PLf2B7UoR9NKUsVKsaO16cxTU6g3EYCsBx
I think perhaps when Hergé was drawing 'The Black Island', he didn't want to draw more. But when he was redrawing it he realised that drawing something with a lot more background looks very beautiful.
It was actually 'redrawn' by Bob De Moor, an associate of his. In the mid sixties, Herge was busy working on much later adventures, but the British publishers of the new English translation wanted it updated to accurately reflect the places shown. So De Moor went to Britain, and drew hundreds of sketches of cars, uniforms and buildings, and came back for them to be woven into the redrawn version. At least, that's my garbled knowledge of it - many commenters here, though, are true Tintin scholars!
How interesting! I've never seen the earlier versions. Now you can see it sort of evolving over time. With the redraw it helps that by that time he had a large studio under him, whereas during the first edition I think he was mostly working alone or with a smaller team
Oh yes, the Studio definitely is responsible for much of the redrawing. From what I understand, Herge himself redrew the human figures to match his mature style, and his collaborators worked on backgrounds, machines, and landscapes much like they did for the new/contemporary works. The earlier versions are more more 'pure' in that way, but the redrawn versions seem richer, and a big part of my love for the series!
@@ftloc Makes sense, I can definitely sympathize with wanting to draw expressive characters and then just doing the minimum for the backgrounds and set dressing. But still as you say, the original of Müller's mansion is so sparse as to actually damage the narrative. The addition of detail allows the story and action to flow a lot better.
Bob De Moor, who redrew a number of older books or part of older books to match Herge's more evolved style while Herge drew new adventures. There were a couple of others, all part of Studios Herge!
There was also the Whiskey brand name change. In the original 1943 version, the train car carried the real-life Johnnie Walker whiskey. The 1966 changes it to Loch Lomond (Captain Haddock's favorite brand).
The '43 version is actually not the original, which was from 1937/38 and in black and white. In this 1943 colour facsimile that I have, it is Loch Lomond already! I'll check the original from my little French box set, I bet it's Johnnie Walker there! 😁
@@ftloc The egmont colour facsimile has a few updates that the 1943 colour edition didn't have. One of these is the change from Johnnie Walker (which the 1943 edition in French had) to Loch Lomond. Another is the part where Tintin exclaims "It's only a television set!" The original had "a television set!", because colour television sets were a big deal back then and it would not be something to brush aside when discovered in the hideout. Basically, the 1943 English colour facsimile by Egmont is not a 100% facsimile, so to speak.
This was the only facsimile edition in English available when I bought it about eight or nine years ago, I guess it's not available any more? I would have loved to get a black and white/ earlier edition but I never found any such thing. Or I should say I never found any such thing in English and full-sized, because I did manage to pick this up a couple of months ago which contained the original: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k2bVF8Svl2g.html
@@ftloc Apparently every country has it's own (weird) versions of Herge's comics. I live in Holland and here we also have versions of the small B&W facsimile books that you have in the French language boxed set and that you reviewed here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-k2bVF8Svl2g.html. They look exactly the same, but I think they're bit larger. They are 16.6 cm x 22.4 cm (6.5 inch x 8.8 inch). In Holland we can buy comics via Bol.com. I think that you in the UK buy from Amazon.co.uk. I, indeed, cannot find 'The Black Island' in the 1943 in colour version there. I do not know if they released "your" 1943 color version of 'The Black Island' anywhere else than in the UK (US??). Nor can I find a good website on which all the versions of Tintin books are listed. All websites list "regular" releases. Pretty soon the UK will leave the EU and I don't know if I'll have to pay (extra) VAT if I order from UK's Amazon site. I'll keep on searching... [off topic] Would love to have a facsimile of the unfinished 1939/1940 version of 'Land Of Black Gold'.
You are not going to believe this. Couldn't find info in the coloured 1943 version nor where to buy it. Walked into one of the few comic book stores that are left around here. Found it immediately! Bought it of course! ;-)
This is like anime when it airs versus home release. Unlimited time to get all the details right instead of having to adhere to a weekly release schedule makes for a more polished product.
Haha, I can see it! Only the first nine adventures were redrawn though, to match the later style. The rest had minor differences in style but remained single-version stories.
Can you make a revision of 'Tintin in the Congo' with its black and white facsimile version along with its coloured version along with 'The Broken Ear', 'King Ottokar's Sceptre' and 'The Crab with the Golden Claws'?
Apologies for that! The monster sequences almost exactly the same, frame by frame, and the drawings are absolutely unchanged, at least to my eye, and in this version. I did the comparison till the level of detail was significantly different, but you're right, I should have at least explained that. I was just starting making these videos in those days, so didn't really know what i was doing! 😁 Hope the rest of the video was still enjoyable though, cheers!
Thank you! As for digital copies, I'm sure they must be out there, but unfortunately I have no idea because I can only really read comics in hardcopy...
In the 90s they reprinted all of the black and white originals in a series of anthology called Les Archives Herge, can be found online 2nd hand without great effort. That's in French, I dont think the black and white originals were ever translated.
It’s a Casterman facsimile, albeit of the 1943 version, not the original. If you are interested in the Casterman facsimile editions, I have another comparison video (on Tintin in America) and also briefly glance through all my facsimiles in my ‘Shelf Seven’ video.
@@ftloc Haha, excellent. As someone who lives in the Scottish Highlands I was thrilled as a kid to find my corner of the world represented in a Tintin adventure.
Hergé was a great storyteller, but he couldn't really draw. (He actually said that himself, when talking about Franquin.) That's why he soon hired Edgar P. Jacobs, Bob de Moor and Jacques Martin. They contributed immensely to the character of Hergés books.
