Tips for Smoother Cinewhoop Flying 🎓

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@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

What are some of your tips and tricks for smoother flying?

@shadowofchaos8932 3 года назад

I see lots of suggestions for a pinch your controls for more stable flight. I myself like to fly with my thumbs. I grew up on Nintendo and playstation controllers, thumbs are more comfortable for me. Fly the way you feel more confident.

@medrone7097 3 года назад

@@shadowofchaos8932 There are great pilots who do both. After flying for over a year, I felt like I stopped progressing, so I transitioned from thumbs to pinch. It was a challenge for about a month but it paid off for me.

@ChrisParayno 3 года назад

Use a camera with stabilization, you have that one😉

@moifpv 2 года назад

@@medrone7097 do you do pinch for racing also?

@billmcdonald4335 Год назад

Ever since I started flying my 2S, 100g ET100 superwhoop in my little apartment, I was trying to get it to fly like a cinewhoop - even before I discovered there was such a thing. I started with BF 3.2 or so, and the thing flew like a toy: a Chucky doll. Once I got accustomed to BetaFlight, one of the first things I did was to tame its throttle. It was primarily an act of self-preservation, initially. I thought that since the craft was limited in the vertical, all its extra power was unnecessary; all that's needed is enough to gently ascend. The main thing is to maintain a constant altitude, with any vertical movement being smooth and gentle. Over the years I have massaged the throttle curve to where the stick midpoint is at the craft's hover point, and there is maximum expo applied in BF and on the TX. When scaled appropriately, you get a craft that is very easy to fly. Here's what I did in BF 4.3.1: Fly in Angle Mode, with a low Strength setting [I use 20], and low tip angles [currently I'm running 12, 15, and 18 degrees]. Use very, very low RPY rates and lots of expo. Set Anti-gravity to Off. Set Thrust Linearization to Off. Set Throttle Boost to 0. Set the Throttle Limit to Off, Throttle MID to 0.50, Throttle Expo to 0. Do a hover to find the point on the linear curve, using the throttle readout on the OSD. Once that's established [in my case it was ~40%, so we'll plug that in], set the Throttle Limit in BF to SCALE, the Throttle Limit % to 50%, the Throttle MID to 0.8, and the Throttle Expo to 1.00. A few test flights allowed me to zone in the Throttle MID [I ended with 0.87 at 50% Throttle Limit] so that the 'sweet spot' in the middle of the throttle curve matched where I wanted my thumb to be, with the widest latitude. I set the throttle expo on my TX to 100% as well. I set my TPA to 0.01 and the TPA Breakpoint to 1001. With the throttle set so low, it makes very little difference, at least to the ET100. These settings make it a very tame platform that handles collisions with aplomb, and makes riding along walls something readily do-able. The numbers will vary, depending on the craft, and some will need fine-tuning. The idea is to find the full-power hover point and set that to mid-point, flatten the new mid-point out as much as possible, and scale the power above mid-point to where only the minimum needed for smooth ascent is used. This results in a smooth-flying platform that holds its altitude really well, and it gains altitude gently but with enough reserve to respond when needed; since the majority of the curve is below stick center, it descends stably and lands with precision. It also eliminates flyaways and other unwanted reactions when rubbing or bumping things. My ET100 still has the video feed of a potato, but it flies like a dream with that throttle profile. Give it a go. It should only take a few packs to dial in the sweet spot. It makes handling the little guys much easier - at least for an Angle Mode duffer like me. It might for you, too. Angle Mode Matters! Happy Flying!

@retrodudefpv 3 года назад

One thing that many people still forget; Disable ADC filter in hardware tab of open tx transmitters, makes a significant difference for smoother flight 🙂🙂👀🙂

@shadowofchaos8932 3 года назад

Lots of people ask about what PIDs do the pros use. We ask, AK delivers!

@trevorimpulsebuyguy6398 3 года назад

I don't even like cinewhoops and I liked this video! You do really good educational video's man. Also, you never have to explain how you review stuff. We all hail the King of Review- Mr. Albert Kim!

@groggyfroggyfpv6868 3 года назад

Have a great day brother! Thanks for all the excellent content.

@davidspivey3582 3 года назад

I have to say i love your flying in general, it doesn't matter the style of it bro

@medrone7097 3 года назад

Really enjoyed the tuning tips! I haven’t cinewhooped, but I just started acro with a regular whoop indoors and by default left Air mode on. I’ll have to try flying without it. Thanks AK 👍.

@trevorc6793 3 года назад

Another great video Albert, I'm always learning from you. Thank you.

@johnk8825 3 года назад

Albert very good video with helpful setup changes for less experienced users. I have the feeling others will be asking for similar help on different types of quads, in the future.

@seAnBuchanan 3 года назад

I'd love a video on inverting the 65x hd! Thanks so much for doing what you do Albert!

@MCsCreations 3 года назад

Great video, Albert! Thanks a lot! 😊 Stay safe there! 🖖😊

@jlarson42 3 года назад

Very informative and helpful video. Thanks Albert 🤓

@GeezerGramps 3 года назад

I for one appreciate the fact that your reviews are done on a stock factory tune. As you said this gives a better idea of how it will fly stock. This is especially helpful to new people getting into the hobby. Myself I’m not a good tuner and have watched video reviews, bought the whoop to find out it didn’t fly anything like the review. I tend to not trust those peoples reviews. There are a couple of RU-vid channels I’ll check when looking for a new whoop & this is one of them. Thanks Albert!

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

Yeah, I hear that complaint all the time. When I dug into it some more, I figured out these other reviewers were taking stuff that was crap out of box, fixing it up and making it look amazing. There was a real famous incident a couple years ago where one reviewer used flight footage from a totally different drone all together. There's a lot of dirty stuff that goes on behind the scenes... it's scary out there...

@rtpman1953 3 года назад

I loved this video, Albert. I seem to have really bad throttle control on cinewhoops so will be trying some of these settings.

@chrismillersrcfamily 3 года назад

Tips always are helpful 👍🏼

@Reecefpv 3 года назад

Nice tips I'm definitely gonna try em out. I had stopped flying it cause of poor flight characteristics.

@SkydiveSim 3 года назад

Just tried your settings and works great! Thanks for the detailed video!

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

You're welcome!

@trajanfpv 3 года назад

Very Useful, thanks Albert. May put some of these settings into my LR 4 inch to smooth out the video. May even put the profile on a switch in case I need to get aggressive based on terrain.

@GadgetLuv259 3 года назад

Thanks very much for the info! I’ve been wanting to turn the meteor hd that I bought from you into a pusher ☺️

@touron119 3 года назад

👍👍 excellent video!! I'm new to cinematic and it's way different than being freestyle smooth....

@KingTutLight1111 3 года назад

Great infomation Albert, Keep up the good work.

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@roypettit1808 3 года назад

Very helpful! Thanks for creating! :o)

@villadante Год назад

Thank you, I will try to apply your tips and see how it goes. I would definitely enjoy seeing an updated video about indoor flying. I think there's many people whod like to invest in the realestate applications...

@quadwings66 3 года назад

I completely agree on the d min off. I turn it off on a all my cine whoops. I feel it helps a lot on mid throttle oscillations. Air mode off absolutely ! The thing I think you didn’t mention when flying indoors and close to environment is getting sucked to a wall. So annoying, no choice but to disarm. Great video !

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

I covered the wall sucking problem in an older video... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YvnCV4mFJQM.html

@jeffreynolds2190 Год назад

You have helped me a so much. Thank you ! Tamed the Flywoo Venom for much smoother interior set up..

@AlbertKimTV Год назад

Glad I could help!

@garrettkensler451 2 года назад

Great work man!

@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад

Appreciate it!

@joachimbrandqvist2826 3 года назад

Tried these settings on a Diatone Tina Whoop and it worked very well for smooth flying through gaps etc. Only thing i increased was the Yaw as i thought was a bit sluggish. Thanks for the post..

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

Yeah, I actually prefer a sluggish yaw axis as sudden movements on the yaw axis seem magnified after processing in RealSteadyGO.

@sicco6213 2 года назад

Dude that video helped so much! It changed everything.. Thank you!

@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад

Glad it helped!

@annonomus6675 Год назад

thanks for the air mode tip, answered several problems,🙂

@AlbertKimTV Год назад

No problem 👍

@wakingdreamfpv Год назад

Super helpful!

@AlbertKimTV Год назад

Great 👍

@kumardeepam 2 года назад

Thank you 🌞

@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад

Any time!

@KhoPhi 3 года назад

Another "tip" I wanna throw in is, use 5-blade propellers. I'm still testing the results, but I get smoother, more stable flight using a 5-blade than a 3-blade. Just something to consider as well. Great settings there. Learned something!

@Wakefoilman 3 года назад

Which 5 blades? I tried some 3" ones that made the quad shaky compared to the gemfam and HQ 3 blades I had been using.

@jak3361 2 года назад

Thanks for the tips, I'm a newb and found it most helpful..

@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@MorningView 2 года назад

Thank you very much sir.

@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад

Most welcome

@quadwings66 3 года назад

Hey. Super interested in your meteor 65 pusher! I’ve got a mobula 6 hd on a meteor frame, thinking of turning it into a pusher, like my 85xhd

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

Check out my Meteor65 Pusher video. The HD version is basically the same thing. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0Pd9FqmlECc.html

@rgglenn150 3 года назад

Hi Albert. In your opinion. which is a better cinewhoop. Beta95x v3 or the protek 25?

@c_labb9247 3 года назад

Thanks for the great video, is this a small whoop specific or do you think most of this will apply to say a GepRC cinerun, not to be too specific haha

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

The ideas are generally applicable to any drone really. The specific numbers you see are only for the tiny drone I showed in the video. If you just try to copy the numbers to another drone, it probably won't fly well. Don't focus on the numbers but the concepts.

@StijnDeGrauwePhoto 3 года назад

Thnx! Will try this out! Do you have any good pid settings for the beta95x v2?

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

Try out what I did for V3 but adjust the gains lower and check your motor temps.

@dennisordiales2602 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing your tips! Is turning airmode off in doing freestyle may help also in a smooth flight?

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

For freestyle, keep airmode on. You can't do any flips or rolls with airmode off.

@sicco6213 9 месяцев назад

Omg thanks so much for this ❤ do you fly angle mode? Whats your settings on this

@AlbertKimTV 9 месяцев назад

I only fly acro mode.

@sicco6213 9 месяцев назад

@@AlbertKimTV wow

@sammydean 3 года назад

Are you planning on doing a review of the HOMFPV Wingsuit S?! Would love to know how you think it compares to the beta95x v3!!

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

Yes, that review will be out soon.

@jiltedfpv7661 6 месяцев назад

Albert, Old video but would this apply to the cinelog 35?

@AlbertKimTV 6 месяцев назад

Applies to ANY FPV drone.

@dfouraksa.k6911 3 года назад

Planning on getting a SMO 4k, but how does it compares to a naked gopro from your perspective? I've seen you've mostly use the gopro recently other than the smo 4k review video itself

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

The naked goPro has better quality but the SMO 4K is easier for inexperienced pilots. Many inexperienced pilots who have no clue what they are doing end up destroying the goPros. I think one guy I helped wrecked 10 goPros and then gave up and bought a SMO 4K.

@dfouraksa.k6911 3 года назад

@@AlbertKimTV right, im quite very new to the hobby and taking apart a gopro and not to mention some betafpv bec power spike problems I've heard wouldn't justify the risk for a slightly better video quality in my opinion Hopefully flowstate can be updated close to reelsteady as smo 4k also have metadata info

@CopperStateAerialPhotography Год назад

This might be a dumb question but, do all 3 drone have Angle mode, Horizon mode and Acro mode?

@AlbertKimTV Год назад

I only fly acro mode but you can always add those modes in Betaflight on any Betaflight drone.

@dianlaksmanaanindita9576 3 года назад

hi, can we produce a good cinematic footage with cinewhoop using angle mode, currently i using Reptile cloud 169 HD...thanks

@AlbertKimTV 3 года назад

I have tried to tweak the settings in Betaflight but without success. The self-leveling causing too much jerkiness in the footage for it to be used for anything but casual home video. Professionals will reject the footage out right.

@igormoura 2 года назад

Hi Albert. I'm new in fpv Drones and I bought one cinebee 4k. Can you help me with what's better config to have some smooth fly to learn?

@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад

The settings here in this video are fine for learning as they will smooth out the stick movements. If you need more smoothing, then increase the numbers for expo.

@igormoura 2 года назад

@@AlbertKimTV Thanks a lot

@kumardeepam 2 года назад

Request you to please do a similar video about Protek35 keeping the beginners in mind so that as a beginner I find it easy to fly at a slow speed. I am new to fpv hobby and have got myself a Protek35, the first time I tried flying it I felt it was uncontrollable. :-( Please suggest settings that can help me be able to fly slow with more control. Thank you

@AlbertKimTV 2 года назад

I used the quad in the video as an example but the techniques can be applied to any other quad with Betaflight. The exact numbers might change a little but the process is the same.

@kumardeepam 2 года назад

@@AlbertKimTV Thank you so much! Will try these settings 😃

@djarunnarharpur...7630 3 года назад

Hello

@EVEDRONE 3 года назад

Like 🐈❤️😘

@jeffreynolds2190 Год назад

Thank you for the help. So will these expo changes affect all flight modes " Horizon " or only Acro, Also I past the cinematic tune command lines from beta flight 4.2 into cli, but I could not figure out how to install it . Do I have to flash the board ? Kinda got scared on that step didn't want to mess it up. I have the Flywoo Venom hex ( 6 motor ) , should these changes work with a Hex or am I in unknown territory.

@AlbertKimTV Год назад

I'd consult the Betaflight wiki regarding rate changes in Horizon mode. I don't ever fly that mode (nor do I really recommend it) so I'm not sure how that whole mode works. github.com/betaflight/betaflight/wiki