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Hello boys and girls,
I know some of you have asked me to do a theory on the prime titans and here you go, you also go something extra on the way ;)
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@mastamune1
@mastamune1 7 лет назад
Your theory is interesting, but It makes more sense for titans to have gone through overhauls and redesigns as new technology arises. The only major difference between the Original Titans was their loadouts, which were determined by the player. This falls in line with old weapons design theory. You manufacture a general template model and then modify it with performance parts later. This is good for general purposes, but you can't really build specialization models out of a general template. Military convention teaches us that you don't buy a rifle because its the best, you buy it because it's cheap and it does what you want it to do. The Old Titans fit this mold. Titans are a new weapons system and you immediately notice you'll need a light recon platform, your general service platform, and a platform to carry your heavier weapons. Thus they make an immediate impact on the battlefield. This is the case in WWII where you see the USA and RAF using older aircraft that still service but are technologically inferior to the enemy aircraft. As the war progresses, need for more specialized or superior Aircraft enter the field. Thus the next generation of Titans is born. Technologies that have come about in the war and a need for unique systems comes about. Core development leads to specialization. The change to a battery based shield system is based off of the needs of pilots and fast moving military forces (including mercenaries) who can't maintain bases, ships etc to maintain these more complicated systems. Each of the current generation of titans is designated for a specific role. Ronin - A fast moving flanking variant. This titan was designed to be used during major warfare as a scouting role/flanker in large scale battles. It's maneuverability is critical for commanders, because its a piece you can use to push your opponent out of position and/or quickly inflict damage on openings. Northstar - A recon specialist and light weight frame developed for aerial superiority. I would assume that titans can deal with fast moving aircraft, and or they are resistant to aerial attacks, Northstar is developed as sort of a long range Air Superiority specialists. It's movements enable it to find angles for difficult shots, to pin down the opposition with precision fire. Not unlike a DMR. Tone + Ion - Generalist platforms you use in mass. these two would make up the bulk of your forces, due to their load out and ease of use (doesn't take a great pilot to perform in these, as long as they are breathing they can put rounds on the target). With no special functions they are the perfect grunts. Better still, they're is no need to complicate your supply chain when all of your Titans use the same ammunition. Ion takes this a step further by using laser technology as it's major source of damage. Scorch + Legion = there are to reasons for heavy weapons platforms. you need to break through the enemies defenses, or you need to supress them with sustained fire. These two fit the bill without the need of letting your pilots choose what weapons they want. This gives us two advantages strategically. No need to complicate your supply chain with pilots saying "you sent me 120mm ammo, i use a 30mm cannon" or "I don't use rockets, i launch missles. Now you can simply allot supplies based of the frame names. Given X amount of Tones, Legions, Etc..I can more easily allot our resources without complicated lists and resources. Second advantage, easier to swap pilots to titans for battlefield strategy. Did you lose your titan? no problem, I got a tone or a legion to drop for you (I know that in the game, it's Our titan but lets be honest, no miltary is going to say hey, this is yours do what you want). This makes manpower and pilot specialization an easier on Military Organization. Prime titans are the next step of that. While in game, they are the same as the old titans, with a look you can easily see they are Mark II variants. They are the next step, Kinda like a F-15D model being superior to a F-15A. The F-15 has upgraded technology but is the same platform. SOme titans boost more armor, or have better forms conducive to their design. Vanguards are a case of what happens when a military force gets to have direct control over what they are looking for in a Titan. The versatility factor is huge, but something only special forces would want or need. BT is literally one of the first of these new models and his design is based off of a need for Militia pilots whom no doubt have a weaker supply infrastructure to be able to rearm and resupply in the field based off of what you have on hand.
@AcemiOyuncular
@AcemiOyuncular 5 лет назад
Shield regen got removed I think its because materials got scarce as you can see only high ranking people have them
@austinhobbesandjustin
@austinhobbesandjustin 4 года назад
Some mercenary pilots would be able to afford their own, such as the Apex Predators
@kingligma3957
@kingligma3957 4 года назад
mastamune1 Q
@databbs
@databbs 4 года назад
mastamune1 this takes half of the comment area
@jamesbartlett7971
@jamesbartlett7971 4 года назад
Warning WALL OF TEXT
@tristanduchesne6433
@tristanduchesne6433 7 лет назад
i have a theory about prime titans. In the single player campaign trailer he stated the titans where used for agricultural or industrial purposes, so during the time of war Hamon Robotics or Vinson Dynamics miltarized the titans by simply giving them weapons. The as the war progressed they created the Prime Titans which are better built and more effective at war than the regular titans, but they come at a cost thats may be to high for certain pilots so they stick to they're old titans hence why u dont see a lot if prime titans in multiplayer
@moosh7078
@moosh7078 7 лет назад
yes but they're not stronger, they have the same health and damage, etc
@DavidBarkland
@DavidBarkland 7 лет назад
might be for gameplay balance. The Lore might still refer to a certain thing as more powerfull, but since it would destroy the game balance they have the same stats in game.
@user-lp7tx1fe6t
@user-lp7tx1fe6t 7 лет назад
Nah,the titans in titanfall 2 seem to be made for combat
@NobleAK
@NobleAK 7 лет назад
I just thought that the prime titans where just technological advances after the titanfall 2 campaign
@randomguyr504
@randomguyr504 7 лет назад
Michael Johnson I
@eekkll_1624
@eekkll_1624 7 лет назад
Ronin and north star use the same chassis as stryder. ion and tone use the same chassis as atlas legion and scorch use the same chassis as ogre Monarch is a completely different chasis
@warlynx5644
@warlynx5644 7 лет назад
Ronin and Scorch were based off their original Titans, the rest, (excluding Monarch) were innovations of their older models. Monarch is a completely new chassis.
@kingofthemonsters4504
@kingofthemonsters4504 7 лет назад
Edgar _ Ronin,scorch, and ion used the same chassis as the originals not all of them you clearly see that
@prettymurderdoll4298
@prettymurderdoll4298 6 лет назад
EEKKLL _ .
@logantyler9733
@logantyler9733 6 лет назад
You are correct my friend
@laipratap8778
@laipratap8778 6 лет назад
EEKKLL _ definitally monarch is different XD it was created on a update in titanfall 2 idk if im wrong correct me
@spikiestdragongaming3852
@spikiestdragongaming3852 7 лет назад
also if you're playing war games when you're booting up the training pod and your part of marauder corpse you'll see an ogre in the background
@aspectofbld1408
@aspectofbld1408 7 лет назад
Their the same backgrounds from the original Titanfall except the atlas titan is now an Ion when you play for the militia When you play for the IMC it's the exact same intro but different leaders... Either Respawn was lazy and just didn't want to change the ogre titan to save time or maybe they're still producing them. Who knows....
@kingofthemonsters4504
@kingofthemonsters4504 7 лет назад
Spikiestdragon Gaming the ogre is there for all militia factions (I haven't played war games for a while so I'm probably wrong)
@spikiestdragongaming3852
@spikiestdragongaming3852 7 лет назад
Kaila Jimebrz10 correct
@goldexperiencerequiem1085
@goldexperiencerequiem1085 3 года назад
@@aspectofbld1408 well this considering it's the militia, they probably want any titan that can fight on the frontline.
@BSfanboy113
@BSfanboy113 7 лет назад
I always thought that the prime titans were like "dealer models". Something to put out onto a showroom or to show to investors.
@neilcaiman1174
@neilcaiman1174 7 лет назад
One factor you forgot was the patches. You can see two very intresting titans on the 'titanfall Z' and 'war of the titans' patches; an ion with an XO-15 chaingun, and a ton in with a predator cannon. However, the ion is using laser core in the titanfall Z patch, denoting it is a functional ion, not simply an Atlas that looks like an ion. Though, I have a theory; ion was originally a mining titan. Everything about her design is optimal for mining; a shoulder mounted laser to cut away rock, a shield that catches things at a low velocity and throws them away at a higher velocity, for disposing of uneeded rock, and a heavier laser beam for more heavy work. Now, the one out of place ability is the tripwire, but then again, the tripwire always appears to be tacked on; it's the only ability that doesn't depend on energy, and it's the only ability that isn't visible on the chassis.
@warlynx5644
@warlynx5644 7 лет назад
Good theory! Here's what I think the others were used for (Monarch not included) Scorch: Forest Clearing Northstar: Exploration Ronin: Police/Chaser Tone: Rescue Legion: Cargo Transport
@kingofthemonsters4504
@kingofthemonsters4504 7 лет назад
Warlynx 56 the current Titans were most likely built just for combat the original trio were used for other things besides combat but Hammond robotics built them for combat cause when they were presented they were in combat but some people used them for other thing
@Kurogumo
@Kurogumo 3 года назад
All of them are solely combat titans. Just because they can switch weapons doesn’t mean they aren’t combat focused.
@podyjr101
@podyjr101 3 года назад
"There might be a monarch prime skin soon" *I'm still holding out*
@LightAndDarkMdness02
@LightAndDarkMdness02 6 лет назад
I think Gen II Titans were created in response to the IMC's resource crisis after Demeter was destroyed. See... Atlas, Stryder, and Ogre are way more practical than Gen II Titans. They're way faster, way more durable, had energy shields, and way more customizable in terms of class layout (albeit certain Titans work better with certain weapons). Sure, their cores aren't nearly as much of a game changer as the Gen IIs, but they're still applicable. Gen IIs were created as the resource crisis due more severe. The advanced features that Pilots expected had to be removed due to a need to produce cheaper Titans that could be easily manufactured in mass. That being said, while these new chassis were quite a bit weaker, they were given highly advanced cores to help make them more viable. They were also more situational, allowing Pilots to pick a Titan based personally on their piloting style. Stryder Pilots would naturally transition to Ronin and Northstar, for example, as those two Titans represent the two main play styles people went with when using a Stryder. It also gave Pilots the ability to better personalize their Titans in an effort to boost morale. The stoic paint jobs of old were replaced with unique color schemes based on the Pilot's interests.
@Kurogumo
@Kurogumo 3 года назад
The paint jobs are due to you being a mercenary in TF2 every titan you fight in campaign had the standard IMC paint job.
@fpspatato6525
@fpspatato6525 4 года назад
2:22 scorch is so f*cking cute
@whiteobama3295
@whiteobama3295 5 лет назад
Here my answer to "Why are they called prime titans?" Cause amazon prime made them and shipped them
@dansiva1870
@dansiva1870 4 года назад
No optimus prime
@VisibleStains
@VisibleStains 4 года назад
@@dansiva1870 correct
@zedaddy3530
@zedaddy3530 4 года назад
yo have you guys heard of twitch prime?
@mf6610
@mf6610 3 года назад
XDDDDDDDD
@infinitetaquito4484
@infinitetaquito4484 3 года назад
I was talking about prime titans and my friend mentioned Amazon prime xdxdxd
@jorb333
@jorb333 7 лет назад
My theory was that titanfall 1 pilots were more skilled than titanfall 2 pilots, so they were allowed to use customizable Titans. This is proven when BT-7274 is allowed to pick up a load out, while retaining health and boosts. What other titans can lick up weaponry? The original trio. Who owned BT? A master pilot
@argueknaught1787
@argueknaught1787 7 лет назад
Your aloud to customize your thing because in titanfall 1 your a solider fighting for you faction but in titanfall 2 your a mercenary who takes jobs from different factions which is why you have earn credits and are able to customize your arsenal
@VigilSerus
@VigilSerus 7 лет назад
Thats not true. BT can chose many different loadouts because BT is a Vanguard chassis, which is supposed to be the most technologically advanced titan available. The only other Vanguard chassis is Monarch, which (for Multiplayer balance) allows field upgrades to one loadout. The principle that the Vanguard titan can upgrade and change/fabricate its own upgrades on the field is what makes BT powerful, and being piloted by Lastimosa (who is a master pilot) makes them incredibly effective.
@tomodonohue7765
@tomodonohue7765 7 лет назад
I wouldn't be so sure. Remember Captain Lastimosa was on the battle field a lot longer than we were and we were able to destroy several faction leaders, while he was KIA.
@zenrush7540
@zenrush7540 7 лет назад
Tom O'Donohue Cooper fights them one at a time, when Lastimosa had to fight them all at once
@Deathwindgames
@Deathwindgames 6 лет назад
Jorb333 from titanfall 1
@thatorangeguy3646
@thatorangeguy3646 4 года назад
The "original titans from the first game where farming/agricultural equipment. Essentially giant machines that can walk all over agriculture areas with uneven terrain. While the cupola(the top hatch with little windows on the atlas) seems militaristic for a colony world, a sturdy machine that could be beaten up by creatures, falling trees, and other hazards would prove needed for the near lawless frontier. When the war for the frontier broke out conventional military vehicles were not present. So farming vehicles where made into "technicals" similair to toyatas having guns slapped into the bed. Titans clearly were usefull weapons of war, for both mercenaries and none frontline dutys, finding a place alongside tanks in the military, and as mercenary vehicles. Hammond robotics would quickly desighn a new titan, the ogre. Being clearly up armoured. Alongside this i would assume the strider and the weapons titans use would also be desighned or refined from reporposed weapons used earlier.(think setting a trigger system for hmg's for titan hands) along with the specialised titan sized bags to hold ammunition and other items. The Militia would steal a large sum of equipment from hammond robotics/ the IMC including factory ships capable of producing titans (as seen in the games) This is how the titans of the first game started out. The atlas being the first as a large multi role machine, and the strider and ogre being specifically developed for war in place of tanks apc's etc. By the time the second game comes about titans are more than repurposed farm vehicles. With specific models and doctrines based off of the first three they became proper parts of a military. The prime titans are the same. Being the next evolution of the six "new" titans. The old ones would be sold off/ scrapped or used by backwater agencys/civilians who either caint afford. Or dont need military titans. As such only small amounts of the original three would still be made for the agricultural/ civilian market. Monarch would be the last titan currently desighned and put into mass production. Being a militia made titan the IMC/hammond would need to steal it and its desighn plans from the militia instead to produce this. Something they have either now done or are still trying to do.
@pot6700
@pot6700 7 лет назад
in the war games map in the begining when you play as these factions: maurader core,angel city elites & marvins finest hour in the the backround you can see an old militia ogre.
@Krane_
@Krane_ 7 лет назад
Lucasgameboy16 ikr
@LowTierSin
@LowTierSin 7 лет назад
Theory: do ronin's sword how it can summon the arc wave and how it can make his sword into a thunder sword every time he has the sword core. Plz do dis
@miniguyw
@miniguyw 7 лет назад
also how you can't immediately use cores after dropping your titan.
@Matt-uk7zq
@Matt-uk7zq 7 лет назад
1. Ronins sword is made of a type of metal that can conduct electricity. What I think is that the thing that holds ronins sword is pretty much like a charger or the wire connected to the charger, hence electrifying his sword 2. Charging your core is the same concept as charging your Titan meter. The more damage you deal or kills u get, the more it goes towards your core ability. Next, think about how much energy it takes to fuel those cores. That's gonna take a lot of money to replenish, so you have to earn it.
@adamfra64
@adamfra64 5 лет назад
@@miniguyw This is interesting, because in Titanfall, there was a Burn Card that made your titan drop with its core fully charged.
@tiiimeless.1
@tiiimeless.1 5 лет назад
@@adamfra64 A simple gameplay element, I dnt think that has much to do with lore tbh, but good point.
@mf6610
@mf6610 3 года назад
It's probably made out of a really conductive metal or alloy
@decobacolov10000
@decobacolov10000 7 лет назад
And The old titans are still being made in The war games when you start there is a oger on your right
@greenpizza1176
@greenpizza1176 7 лет назад
Remember the Optimus Prime April Fools joke by Respawn. Optimus (Prime) / (Prime titans). Ayy LMAO
@kingofthemonsters4504
@kingofthemonsters4504 7 лет назад
Green Pizza that was funny lol ;)
@greenpizza1176
@greenpizza1176 7 лет назад
LEL ;)
@borgkingerei6993
@borgkingerei6993 5 лет назад
I'd buy that if it was real. A lot of people would
@ThedoodfromBosnia
@ThedoodfromBosnia 4 года назад
Oh that is funny and it actually makes sense lol
@spicyy5573
@spicyy5573 5 лет назад
Chassis: Classes: Strider Ronin, Northstar Atlas Ion, Tone Ogre Scorch, Legion Vanguard Monarch
@Joebama
@Joebama 7 лет назад
You can also find the Scorch loadout in the TF2 campaign mission "Into the Abyys", which is a Vinson Dynamics facility.
@knivy6160
@knivy6160 7 лет назад
Well my theory on what happened to the old titans: In the SP campaign intro it shows the original Atlas titan working on farmland. So perhaps the rest of the titans took up more job-like roles instead of combat ones. So Atlas, the all-around stat wise titan was chosen for farming and presumably construction jobs. But the Stryder and Ogre were nowhere to be seen farming. They were obviously chosen to do different jobs or were trashed. Now, from here it's anyone's guess as to where those chassis went. I think it's it's safe to say the stryders became a delivery service and maybe assisted travel due to their speed. And for the Ogres, they probably went to work in factories and did more of the dirty work.
@anthonymolinaro374
@anthonymolinaro374 7 лет назад
Gotta say I like the prime Titan explanation, as I feel it's realist when u consider the mindset of corporations, Engineer: here is my new revolutionary design Corporation CEO: modify it to use current resources so it's cheaper. Idk this just sounds plausible to me
@ilclass9608
@ilclass9608 7 лет назад
About the old chassis, they are most likely gotten rid of the weapon system and used as giant farmers You can see in the cinematic SP trailer that 2 titans are collecting wood(?) and there's also a little boy sitting on their shoulder I mean, who would let a kid sit on a 25-ton death machine's shoulder? Unless it is no longer a death machine
@aspectofbld1408
@aspectofbld1408 7 лет назад
It can still use a log as a baseball bat, you don't need weapon systems for that...
@DavidBarkland
@DavidBarkland 7 лет назад
In the backstory, Titans were used for a lot of civilian jobs before the war. Since it is Jack narrating, I was under the impression that the farming scene took place before the war and militarization of titans when he was younger. since the backstory puts them as a civilian technology, they likely saw it more as a 25 ton farming machine before the war, and then gave it a big gun when the war came.
@Liamrll
@Liamrll 5 лет назад
I think the old generation is now used to train new pilots, in war games you can see a grunt in an ogre before the match startes. Also i think the reason that new titans have the same loadout is to simplify resource management, for example imagine someone who needs x type of ammo and they give him an other type of ammo because they dont know witch kind of ammo he need, if everyone has the same loadout they will know.
@adamfra64
@adamfra64 5 лет назад
*O B J E C T I O N* There has never been an occurrence where a titan gave another ammo, because, in every single mode, titans have infinite ammo.
@herrrexpenguin2629
@herrrexpenguin2629 4 года назад
AdamFra they have infinite ammo cause it’s a video game, but lore wise it does make sense to simplify production to make it cheaper and easier, since war’s are very expensive anyway, and it also helps with logistics, so if a army has x number of x Titans, you don’t need to fafth about with what weapons each one has you just need to know what type of titans are in play and send the correct supplies
@giafran0231
@giafran0231 7 лет назад
Maybe some of the older models are used for trainig the pilots
@kingofthemonsters4504
@kingofthemonsters4504 7 лет назад
giafran02 probably but trainees we're using ion too and maybe other Titans so they might have the other three still around to help and fight but to keep the game original (as in different Titans) respawn only gave us the six new Titans instead of all of them
@giafran0231
@giafran0231 7 лет назад
Kaila Jimebrz10 yea you are right and also that ogre can be a scorch, because the scorch for Frontier defense has an milita skin
@therevenant4178
@therevenant4178 6 лет назад
The old Titans are possible use for training and/or help people for crops and resources and the new Titans are meant for combat because they have more lethal cores
@Pixelcakes69
@Pixelcakes69 5 лет назад
My theory for the old titans. Ogre is used for construction due to his ability to lift heavier objects, Atlas is used for farming and such Strider is used for transportation due to them being quite fast and agile.
@MoistSnail_the_God
@MoistSnail_the_God 5 лет назад
Good idea except for stryder if they were made for transport than why would they only be able to seat one person 2 if you count someone up where u put the battery in in multiplayer so why spend loads of money making titans that fit 2 people when u can make cars and busses for loads less and can carry more people
@Pixelcakes69
@Pixelcakes69 5 лет назад
@@MoistSnail_the_God they have arms, They use them They carry large armoured box like items that can hold people inside them
@Whitebread0101
@Whitebread0101 7 лет назад
Don't forget the war games map, if you play on Marvin, 6-4, Angel City Elite, or M-corp faction then you can see an ogre being worked on.
@KitskullDubstep
@KitskullDubstep 6 лет назад
On the map War Games, before you go into the simulation, if you're with Marvin's faction (maybe others, didn't check) you can see an Ogre titan being built or prepared in the background.there's something.
@joeysolar498
@joeysolar498 5 лет назад
Military logistics, it's easier to supply for specific weapons on specific vehicles, basically the loadouts are just easier to resupply
@Andernol
@Andernol 5 лет назад
My idea about the difference between 1 and 2 (tho it doesnt explain prime titans) was that the OG titans werent meant for combat. Originally they were farming and construction machines (believe this is confirmed) but the militia had to retrofit to fight the IMC. As the IMC got more and more worse for wear, they did the same. Eventually (hammond and vinson) were on the frontier and producing combat specific titans that fill specific roles (northstar is sniper, Scorch is demo, and legion is like a walking turret).
@TheCreative01e
@TheCreative01e 3 года назад
The thing that also supports Ronin being made first is that his Leadwall is developed off of one of the first gen Titans grenade launchers
@shadow061999
@shadow061999 6 лет назад
Fun fact in the first game the 3 original titans where originally meant for mining on the planets all across the frontier that's why you see the Titans from titanfall 2 more based around military front combat style, to support the theory about the first Titans being for mining or farming is that they where easy to make and simple, and their cores where added to fit the combat that hey where going to be thrown in. 😋
@qiif3434
@qiif3434 4 года назад
Prime(s) are either probably the original/optimal design and but it costs too much for mass production resulting the "normal" model that we see or it's custom made/requested custom titans for aces, optimized, improved and all
@prestongarvey5266
@prestongarvey5266 4 года назад
i think that the regular titans are like prototypes that are slowly upgraded over time but the prime titian are perfected forms of each titian
@xxgamer_2948
@xxgamer_2948 4 года назад
On the map war games before the training pod closes you can see an ogre titan being used to train grunts if you are on the militia faction.
@Echo-vk5jr
@Echo-vk5jr 3 года назад
1:59 we're not gonna talk about the Titan on the far right. What is Destroyer? It appears here, but I can't find ANYTHING ON THIS CHASSIS! EA YOU BETTER HAVE A GOOD EXPLANATION!
@scientificmuniz6410
@scientificmuniz6410 3 года назад
i think the older titans could also be used for matineince on space stations or to repair ships or work on capital ships
@user-pq4by2rq9y
@user-pq4by2rq9y 6 лет назад
Prime titans are just the ones who did not go to the cost reduction and mass producing modification process, thats all. Usually not that cost effective for your standard pilot, but spec-ops do avoid padronized equipment for something tailor-made, provided affordability or exceptional displays of valor.
@austinhobbesandjustin
@austinhobbesandjustin 4 года назад
I can add on to this. I think some of the older chassis's are still in use in combat but now are mainly used in agricultural settings. However to fit in Titanfall: Assault, I believe it happens further into the titanfall timeline and resources are getting sparse so they reconvert some of the older chassis's
@angryslav2628
@angryslav2628 4 года назад
The First gen titans are being sold to use for farming or work as you see in the single player cinematic and the Gen 2 version of titans are being made to use for battle
@mrmarksmen2771
@mrmarksmen2771 6 лет назад
It’s cool that the ogre titan makes an appearance in frontier defence for titan fall 2, as the mortar titans
@szinpad_kezedet
@szinpad_kezedet 5 лет назад
I think the stryder, atlas and ogre class titans were still being made after the creation of the new generation for pilot training and for civilian use (such as agriculture) and because they were the old generation they were probably cheaper to buy and produce too.
@lmotekh
@lmotekh 6 лет назад
At 0:50 It's Kuben Blisk in the top right!
@dragotech1234
@dragotech1234 7 лет назад
I have a theory about mercenaries being playable instead of the normal soldiers in the prequel. I guess the IMC ranks became unstable and even Blisk left the IMC to work as a mercenary. So people on the Frontier hire pilots to work for them. The IMC to stabilize their troops and the Militia to organize themself better, that and increase their ranks.
@emiliohernandez6005
@emiliohernandez6005 3 года назад
My theory is that older gen titans are just being phased out by current gen, and although they still see combat, they are rare and doesn't stand a chance against the new titans, specially the Prime variants.
@bankaishinobi5299
@bankaishinobi5299 5 лет назад
They're still in production because of glitch in the background you can see ogre Titan militia being built don't know what they're used for probably helping around the hangers
@evans8486
@evans8486 4 года назад
when monarch never got a prime version... or exclusive nose art
@Xhawk777
@Xhawk777 7 лет назад
That free to play titanfall game looks cool
@myguyidontcare3105
@myguyidontcare3105 4 года назад
You can see an old ogre titan infront of you when you play in the start of war games just standing there
@dashiellgillingham4579
@dashiellgillingham4579 3 года назад
I always thought it looked more like this; Gen 1; Atlas & Ogre (Scorch) Gen 2; Stryder (Ronin & Northstar), Ion, Tone, & Legion. Gen 3; Vanguard, Monarch. Each generation was continuously upgraded to remain competitive with the generations that followed. Altas Titans were already largely obsolete by Titanfall 1, and design cues were used in later designs. Ogres became obsolete for Titan v Titan combat, so they where used as a platform for terror weapons who’s psychological effects mattered far more than their actual combat potential. Namely, flamethrowers & napalm. The Stryder was the first of the next generation, and refined as a light combat platform in the air (northstar) & on the ground (ronin). Heavier & heavier second generation Titans became available over time, culminating in the upright and all but immobile tank that was the Legion. To further advance the technology, the Militia turned to a faster and lighter combat platform that could match the heaviest second generation Titans in armor & damage potential, as well as the lightest in speed, resulting in the Vanguard, and it’s derivative, the Monarch. Prime titans are titans from previous generations upgraded with third generation technology. They’ve been ‘primed’ for modern combat, on battlefields that will soon be dominated by third generation titans.
@gold1179
@gold1179 6 лет назад
As of 6/26/18, there is still no prime Monarch. Rest in Pepper Ponies.
@Bone20647
@Bone20647 4 года назад
with prime titans being original design and that its correct because its known that prime titans were (lore wise) the first titan models
@JohhnyPukeCat
@JohhnyPukeCat Год назад
my theory is I think they made new titans for more simple loadouts, for a example legion has a predator cannon, ion has a splitter rifle, ETC. So they disasembled the Atlas Ogre and Strider for more simple tasks like Farming, Building ETC. so yeah theres my theory
@dog2108
@dog2108 2 года назад
"There might be a prime monarch in the near future" me 5 years later "i wish"
@hereticslayer2757
@hereticslayer2757 2 года назад
I've noticed how so.e titans were just conversions of the original designs of the trio while others where straght new designs based of off the type of chassis that it was designed for. An example of conversion and brand new is Ion and tone (like every other titan) of you were to piggy back an Ion weather a friendly or not you can see thw little hatch thingy that you would pull of and shoot into in titan fall 1 and having a simpler design which can see by looking at its back while tone was designed around the atlas chassis it was a new design that Hammond robotics made.
@calmface7509
@calmface7509 3 года назад
the last gen titans were probably back to be utilized for basic stuff again, remember titans were never really made for war, there for they were use things like farming, factory labor, etc.
@windowsxp1911
@windowsxp1911 4 года назад
An interesting tidbit I noticed while playing, on the map war games before you start the simulation you can see an ogre class titan going through maintenance. This may have already been pointed out but I've never seen anyone mention it.
@aunderiskerensky2304
@aunderiskerensky2304 6 лет назад
the old titans would be used much in the same way the battletech universe treats its older mechs. rear line vanguards, pilot training, broke ass mercenaries have no other options etc. a third titanfall would be amazing to expand on the universe. maybe something similar to mechwarrior mercenaries where you start with a broken down ogre or something, and have to do missions to upgrade, buy more titans, salvage etc. and eventually be able to afford a current titan or two, upgrade and research them etc. but yea, i believe the old titans are very much still around and we have experienced so little of the lore and possible universe that the older titans are very much so still in use. we just got showcased a front line battlefield in which everyone happened to have the newest tech.
@TheDesknight
@TheDesknight 7 лет назад
Yeah prime titans video , thanks
@abstract0014
@abstract0014 4 года назад
I think that the first generation titans were either recycled or sold to civilians that could assist them in regular jobs for example Farming and Construction.
@ANCHORHEAD_INDUSTRIES
@ANCHORHEAD_INDUSTRIES 4 года назад
Tone moving at the speed of sound is the most scariest thing I ever seen.
@kevinzhou5923
@kevinzhou5923 5 лет назад
View the titan briefings and you’ll see the digital brochure numbers. Maybe the smallest number is the first titan and the biggest is the last one?
@lordyharim466
@lordyharim466 5 лет назад
Ronin is made from the IMC, its printed somewhere on the waist, if you look at him at 3:34
@leonvalenzuela4096
@leonvalenzuela4096 7 лет назад
Makes sense, in the real world we go from the "thunderbolt" to the "thunderbolt mk2" with slightly different/improved statistics, while older model are sold off to a less abvaced country & eventually the general population; you can buy WW 1 & 2 (for a few million) tanks, Hollywood & game developers use them to get better understanding of how they behave in combat; good theory
@Kirontowo
@Kirontowo 7 лет назад
Hey Tea Cup. Here's something I found out in the remastered Wargames map. I saw an Ogre getting fixed or something. You can see this in the pod for these factions: The Militia, The 64, The Angel City Faction, and The Marvin Faction.
@aspectofbld1408
@aspectofbld1408 7 лет назад
Karrot4 Carrot, that intro was recycled from the original titanfall and put in to titanfall 2 for those factions...the ion used to be an Atlas though. Maybe respawn got lazy and just kept the ogre to save time or maybe they're still producing them. Who knows...
@DavidBarkland
@DavidBarkland 7 лет назад
or it was nostalgia.
@oskarlee3405
@oskarlee3405 3 года назад
The reason why they are still in production the gen 1 titan because for construction cause they are strong and fast or used to scope out dangerous areas
@theaprilist8668
@theaprilist8668 5 лет назад
-S: Sword- -A: Art- -O:Online- S: Stryder A: Atlas O: Ogre
@wisecrack3461
@wisecrack3461 4 года назад
S: Ronin A: Roniiiin O: Roniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin
@tylerhilpisch7850
@tylerhilpisch7850 5 лет назад
If what you said about the prime titian executions are true then monarch is not going to get a prime version since its core does not deal damage directly
@treesofgreen2020
@treesofgreen2020 5 лет назад
Gen 1 titans are either converted for private security or resource harvesting
@Rexfuselier
@Rexfuselier 4 года назад
I Know this is old but in the map , war Games in the startup you can see a militia Atlas class titan
@colonthreecolonthree
@colonthreecolonthree 3 года назад
"there might be a prime version of the monarch in the near future" *cries in 2021*
@dragonoidwarlord201
@dragonoidwarlord201 4 года назад
7:38 they are shown with MRVN so you can assume they are used as engineering titans
@camerongooch9606
@camerongooch9606 4 года назад
Titans were originally used for labour like in the intro lifing machinery. In titanfall 1 they were then taken from this civilian labour force and thrust into military use and outfitted with military equipment. Imagine the Toyota African warlords use. It's still just a Toyota but now you have a 50 cal on the back. Then titanfall 2 comes around and these chassis are then specialised for war. They are more streamlined outfitted with prerequisite armaments and abilities. Now that Toyota pickup has been work shopped and come out like a warthog from halo. This is my theory anyway. The imc and militia were running low on conventional military vehicles such as tanks and some madman thought hey why not grab that atlas and give him a gun a big gun.
@theyiffystick4663
@theyiffystick4663 5 лет назад
I'd like to see scorch ude a giant firehose instead of a thermite launcher it would make sense if after the war scorch would be used as a fire unit to put out major fires or emergencies
@augustusdanquah8182
@augustusdanquah8182 7 лет назад
Is it bad that I laughed when he said scorch had his "backpack"
@aspectofbld1408
@aspectofbld1408 7 лет назад
Augustus Danquah, no I did to but it's ok
@guardian2-735
@guardian2-735 5 лет назад
I always just thought that the loadout of the titan determined what class it was, like I always thought that Ion and Tone were Atlas classes, Ronin and Northstar were Stryders and so on.
@atmkrncnr9728
@atmkrncnr9728 2 года назад
I think Monarch not having a prime supports the theory even more cause Monarch was scrapped from Vanguard classes so it's Prime(original design) would be a Vanguard class which causes Hammond Robotics to not have a prime for a Monarch cause they dont know how to make a Vanguard class titan.
@lozm4835
@lozm4835 4 года назад
Perhaps the technology for titans to be able to interface with multiple weapons was simply too expensive, especially as more potent and complex cores were developed. Improvements to design aren't merely on the performance end - we have to remember that the people making the titans want to turn a profit, and cheaper development helps. As more Titans are produced, they made the production more cost-effective to let them make more - this explains why lower-end, non-prime titans use parts taken from older models, since that lets them reuse sections of the older production lines. Some titans, such as BT retain those features because they're custom models, not mass-produced, so expense is less of an issue, and older models are still made in a reduced capacity for people willing to pay for a more versatile Titan.
@GabeCutts
@GabeCutts 4 года назад
bruh i was also quite confused by the intro where you see two atlases in a farm.
@fueselwe
@fueselwe 7 лет назад
another clue that ronin was created by vinson dynamics: guess what titan ash had in the campaign
@drearyplane8259
@drearyplane8259 6 лет назад
I don't think the IMC would sell Titans for civilian use, because they'd just end up in the hands of the Militia.
@lortningmcquorn843
@lortningmcquorn843 7 лет назад
Also you are a mercenary in Titanfall 2 and you don't have access to the military versions of the titans (the old titans)
@josehernandez2219
@josehernandez2219 7 лет назад
XxGunner_ 317xX The new titans are the military titans.
@argueknaught1787
@argueknaught1787 7 лет назад
XxGunner_ 317xX yeah you can tell the titans you use are military because the Imc use them in campaign
@kingofthemonsters4504
@kingofthemonsters4504 7 лет назад
Thebonesofgaming they are all military Titans all of them were built to fight
@lortningmcquorn843
@lortningmcquorn843 7 лет назад
The IMC don't train pilots anymore, they hire mercenaries or build those robot guys, but the robot pilots aren't seen as pilots in the campaign, and are just seen as scouts
@SpectrePilot301
@SpectrePilot301 5 лет назад
In war games you can see the ogre class titan with militia factions
@reecedignan8365
@reecedignan8365 5 лет назад
I know this is an old theory and stuff but my guess for it is the requirement to streamline equipment after the core worlds were blocked off at the end of TF1. Why do I think this? The titans in TF2 have very low heath compared to the original versions; their requirement for disposable batteries over an inbuilt core is also a major downgrade in my opinion; non regenerating shields; less distinctive AI (every AI except for the Vanguard class had a very basic and mellow AI build); This could be due to the fact that the first generation titans are actually ones built using core world materials and factories while the second generation are built in more streamlined frontier and shipborne factories. In addition, resources on the frontier while plentiful are also quite scares as several dozen factions from both the IMC and Militia vie for them. Meaning a redesign for cheap and streamlined titans over the more advanced and stronger titans of the first gen (look to WW2 for such inspiration, in how tanks like the Tiger while very effective eat up Germany’s small amount of natural resources while the Panzer IV was a lot cheaper and cost effective to produce and when put up against equipment of similar type was just as effective as the Tiger but in actuality was weaker and more likely to be knocked out quicker in a fight. But what’s better value 1 tank that can kill 3 or 3 tanks that can kill 6. In addition, when we look at the original gen 1 titans we see something that looks very built for domestic but with some combat ability. This is probably due to the Gen 1 being, as we see in the opening of TF2 cinematic, them being used for domestic farming and such. And having potential combat ability with said Titan also fits as we see in both games the wildlife on said planets aren’t always non aggressive, so having a big robot that can be used for pest control as well as farming and manual work helps. It also makes sense for the Gen 1 to be more domestic robots due to the kits they could receive in the first game being more like quick upgrades that a person or military would potentially throw onto a civilian like vehicle to make it more combat orientated. - I.e how electric smoke is an upgrade as well as the missile salvo and such that we see integrated into many of the gen 2 modes as permanent features but not upgrades. Gen 2 on the other hand seems to be built specifically for combat purposes compared to the Gen 1 versions that like said above looked more like civilian vehicles pushed into warfare compared to the military like designs of the newer titans. This is seen in how many use the original chassis for the Titan but with a lot of the upgrades we seen for them now just permanent additions to many of the titans. In addition in how each have no ability or look in anyway useful for anything but fighting other titans or enemies. This is probably due to the fact that with the core worlds gone the IMC factions stranded in the frontier dont have the same amount of tech or resources or number of factories suited for building larger number of advanced titans and AI to fill them. In addition the requirement for domestic like titans that can be used to farm and mine as well as fight is also a lesser requirement over ones built directly for war and seeing as the only way their going to get to rejoin the core worlds and settle peace/ put down the resistance is fighting. Stripping the gen 1 titans down from their more advanced modes to something base components and remaking it just for warfare seems more like the main priority. And my final points for this theory are: 1. The reason we see some really advanced and new bits of technology and equipment in TF2 compared to 1, is Vinson Dynamics & ARES. Due to ARES being a major research base and seeming to have work/companionship with Vinson as of the time of TF2 campaign, we can guess that much of the new tech we see that wasn’t integrated from the Gen1 may come from their R&D centres and upgraded into the newer titans built by Vinson and other minor IMC factories. 2. I see the Prime Titans as a Rarer prototype like Titan that Vinson built themselves. We see/hear how Vinson likes to act for themselves more and especially after the end of TF2’s campaign where the multiplayer explains much of the IMC disintegrated into literal full time factions compared to minor ones all working together under the banner of the IMC. The Prime Titans are likely the Vinson Dynamics upgrade to their titans that while pretty much the same as the other in game is likely actually provides greater boosts them in lore. 2. How do we know stuff has regressed in tech and AI compared to TF1? Well look at things like the sentinels and how they act these days as no more than literal robotic grunts. While in the original they actually were more effective and could clamber onto titans and everything. We also have to look at how equipment and tech are moving. While time passes we do see some small achievements like phase shift and a few of the laser weapons, most of TF2 achievements seem to go sideways vs up. Nothing new is really achieved but more remanufactured/cross engineered with things already seen - I.e Monarch while an advancement on the Vanguard design doesn’t really actually achieve anything major in the advancement of tech. It’s energy siphon is a smaller version of the gun in TF1, it’s rocket pods are just taken from the Vanguard without the lock-on first, and the rearm is... well that’s harder to explain in lore terms. But it’s literally just a Vanguard class with systems taken from other titans and put into it, it’s only advancement is that it can upgrade on the go, but we already see that in the Vanguard AI (I.e BT) and how it can change as it goes. In addition when looking at the base Vanguard the newest technological advancement for the Militia, its a styrider with the chain gun, missile pod upgrade, a vortex shield and the burst upgrade form the atlas. It’s nothing majorly new just recycled tech and parts. The only newish thing that can be saids the AI that can learn, but how do we not know the original gen1 titans didn’t have this learning ability either especially since each seemed to have the ability to take a distinctive AI voice pack and such - maybe the AI the Militia uses for its Vanguard Titans is a copy of the Gen 1 AIs just given more freedom to learn.
@ThatchCF
@ThatchCF 7 лет назад
i think the 1st gen titans are used not for combat, but for farming (as in single player trailer) as the old chassis would be cheap enough for regular people to use as farming machines instead of regular stuff. but why are there still normal vehicles on the homestead map in multiplayer? btw good video as most of yours are!
@BobRobber1
@BobRobber1 7 лет назад
Can you make a theory about Frontier Defense, because I don't understand what the Harvester is harvesting and why did Droz and Davis quit the 6-4 and form "The Last Resort" please make a theory about it.
@adamfra64
@adamfra64 5 лет назад
Probably harvesting resources, so they are able to construct additional pylons.
@EmptyBonesJohnny
@EmptyBonesJohnny 6 лет назад
Perhaps the titans for titanfall 1 were bot meant for war but for things like construction or diving but after the imc used them for war they made the titans from titanfall 2 who are more weaponized
@j4ckt741
@j4ckt741 5 лет назад
At one point scorches gounlets were going to be electricfied, like an arc mele
@PlayBoX-qq9kr
@PlayBoX-qq9kr 3 года назад
2:48 anyone else notice that the line above the H in Hammond robotics is just floating there? The symbol isn’t even in the centred either.
@floweytheflower4869
@floweytheflower4869 3 года назад
I think the prime titans are just made to be produced cheaper because all the other titans have back pack accessories bags or extra cameras which prime titans lack that it is to make them them cheaper but since the other coorperations probably turned it down because it was more likely that the coorperatation who made them wanted it to give them the plans but at a price the others turned it down only the one who invented prime titans and the ones who went through with it make them
@FranseFrikandel
@FranseFrikandel 3 года назад
A bit late, but... During the single player campaign, aren't the 2 titans that are loading the ark onboard of the draconis ogre chassis? So that seems to support the ogre chassis at least is still used but only for non combat situations.
@Veech24
@Veech24 7 лет назад
My theory of the Titanfall 1 Titans and to what happened to them goes as followed. So, we know that a new generation of Titans came out, in Titanfall 2, other than remaining to the basic 3 we had previously. Obviously, it's explained why and I will not go to that point. Stryder, Atlas and Ogre were used after Titanfall 1 in 2, but for the only reason of doing lifting. Things that a normal human being would be unable. You'd ask why not produce new titans just for that? Or why not use the current titans? Good question, you're full of good questions. You see, if a new generation of titans were to come out, what would their purpose be? Lifting cargo and pushing things and doing stuff that the normal human would be unable to? No, not really. Newer titans were made to be used in battle, helping Civilians in anyway was out of the priority of the IMC. But for the Militia? Lets backtrack a tiny bit. We have three titans. They are no longer in service. What would be the best way to get them in service, and sold? Make them Civilian grade titans. As to what extent where they sold is unknown. Stryder would most seemingly be the lowest in price, as it was rather lightweight. Who sold them? Seemingly both in my opinion. It'd be the easiest to get your hands on. Atlas? It's medium size, and most importantly, used by a farmer. The people who would sell the Atlas type titans would be the Militia. IMC would grow *NO* interest into selling titans for the civillians in such case, the Atlas. [But you jackass, you told us that IMC did sell titans!] I did, they sold Stryders. They also probably sold Ogres. But they found use for them in their facilities and factories, to do some *HEAVY* and I mean *HEAVY* lifting. Other than using cargo machines, they'd use Ogre, such as moving metal rods, and other big, heavier stuff. Like maybe even glass, and vents, etc etc. As thus, my theory ends. Thank you for reading.
@yourselfgaming897
@yourselfgaming897 3 года назад
It doesn’t really make sense that the dimension hopping chassie would have come earlier
@argueknaught1787
@argueknaught1787 7 лет назад
The old generation could be used like how they were used before the war of the frontier just to build and help transport items and materials
@argueknaught1787
@argueknaught1787 7 лет назад
because the new titans are better suited for war (forgot to include this in my first comment)
@jeconiahhoffman4892
@jeconiahhoffman4892 5 лет назад
There's gun art on this titan, so it's safe to say this company made it. But this titan has the art on its nose, so obviously that's not made by that company.
@abril4907
@abril4907 4 года назад
I think *RONIN* was made by the *IMC* and *VINSON DYNAMICS* cooperating together. See how *RONIN'S* arcwave resembles an *ARCGRENADE* and *RONIN'S* phasedash can only be made with *VINSON DYNAMICS'* help. But I still wonder how the *PILOT* inside *RONIN* can go with the Titan when it phasedashes, similar how when you can phase into the Titan even when your *TACTICAL* isn't q simularcrom
@tone4422
@tone4422 5 лет назад
They changed the titans to battery and specific loadout because after the battle if demetar they dont have enough human hand and money to produce
@CinderBurn04
@CinderBurn04 Год назад
I hope if there’s a third game the Original Titanfall 1 titans return
@jakeweng7386
@jakeweng7386 2 года назад
i will be completely honest i thought it made sense but as soon as I hit the end, I forgot pretty much all of it lol
@ultracombo764
@ultracombo764 7 лет назад
My theory is the prime titans are used for high class/ranked pilots
@chrisoswald5917
@chrisoswald5917 4 года назад
Also you said that at the cost of making batteries for titans they couldn't keep the shield regenerative feature well how come in Titanfall 2's campaign during the mission blood and rust you will meet two pilots in desperate need of help well something not many people will notice but both Lt Freeborn and Shaver's Tone titans have regenerative shield- just something I thought I'd point out
@strontium9041
@strontium9041 7 лет назад
Strider, Atlas, Ogre aren't titans, they are Titan chassis. People build their titans off of the base chassis. Think of titans like AR15s you buy the receiver (equivalent of the chassis) and you can buy your attach your own barrel,magazine,grip, stock, which is the titan's unique kit. So they're still in production or else the IMC can't build off of them
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