To Win You Must Lose: How to Argue Better | Dave Sumner | TEDxMcMinnville 

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You said it all my friend , took the words right out of my mine

Hey there! 11 months later, how much has this changed the transcript of your conversations? Have they improved?

@@DairangerSentai7 Interesting question! I'd like to know that too!

this was the highlight of my day

A little different, but in a sense. A professional arguer / debater is often thought of more as someone who does professional debates with a goal of having the appearance of having "won" regardless of whether they are actually correct, possibly not actually believe what they are saying, aim to use all tactics they can even if they know those tactics have nothing to do with truth or actively try to mislead and possibly attempt to humiliate the person they are arguing with if possible. A lot of style over substance, bad faith arguments etc. What this person is talking about is more about Socratic method, techniques for effective collaborative pursuit of truth, viewing being accurate as more important than feeling / appearing right, scout mindset, intellectual honesty, focus on learning, persuading but being willing to be persuaded, logic / fallacies, cognitive bias, psychology, epistemology, metacognition / introspection and so on. So I think "professional arguer" could be used as a label but many people would confuse the concepts and methods in this video with the combative university style "win at all costs" / "Person X DESTROYS person Y" titled videos of debate on youtube.

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Metaphors matter. Why do you think there's so many warrior descriptions for God? Was it because the Israelites were at war and they just used what was around them or for some other reason?

Because they would have to think before making decisions

@@Uubermensch Yeah they teach this. I'm doing an assignment for it now.

I’m here rn because I have an assignment for this in highschool

It is taught to a degree but not widely enough. This is a big part of why America is so divided right now.

Which is what he's talking about, How did he fail to see it when he mentioned it. What he's trying to do is change peoples minds to have constructive arguments.

Because by assuming that people will want to give up winning is foolish

@@Ambientes is there anything wrong with trying to give a different perspective? The fact u think some people aren't capable of listening is foolish

@@Ambientes if they are watching a video titled "how to argue better", hopefully they are willing to change to be more effective.

@@carlingram8316 i believe he's talking about ppl that didnt watch this vid

Not anymore

I imagine violence came before spoken language. But as I learned here, I could definitely be wrong 😄

What I have learned from the video is to like👍 the both comments 👆

Oddly enough I looked this up. This guy needs be my voice coach by the way.

I’m watching for education...sorry you’re just trying to pass a class...

@@j.d.arvizo1492 oh thanks for your apologies and good luck on your education ;)

Lmfaoo

I'm watching this because I looked it up, because I want to argue better. Arguing is fun, I like it, and I don't want to make people mad when I'm not trying to

Don’t generalise a majority of people to all indulge themselves in the same thing, it’s the epitome of absurdity