it's always so annoying to see the comments aren't even funny or original either, it's not exclusive to him either you'll see it with any actor that has played a popular character in pop culture
@TheLee your the child complaining about people calling him Spider-Man like grow tf up buddy 😭😭 and deal with it that’s why I said cry about it you slow asf 😭🤣
there’s another part of this scene on top of the plain old PTSD that’s been boiling to the surface the whole film. He’s angry that he killed his fellow serviceman just to come back to a crap life. I think if he knew the circumstances he was coming back to he would have given his life to save his fellow soldier in a heartbeat. The thought of his family, his wife and kids needing him, is what kept him going but upon return, he felt replaced and like an unwanted burden. I couldn’t imagine that pain.
You're on point, this scene was way too accurate to the mindset of constantly being let down after struggling with your mortality, horrific shit you've done and seen, sensitive but desensitised, feeling like you should have emotions, acting out those feelings but still being numb to them while they're happening. The way Tobey's character keeps losing it and freezing is beyond accurate to severe PTSD + extreme unfairness and cruelty. It gives you a unique perspective
This movie didn't receive the greatest reviews, yet Toby absolutely killed it. It's hard to watch this scene without being moved to tears. When I was a kid I could only see this dude as Spider-Man. How wrong I was! He's criminally underrated.
its deeper than that.. you wouldnt understand... BEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT TO YOU... its a movie reel and it plays OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER IN YOUR HEAD!!!!!!!@@dug8377
PTSD is hell. You feel alone at all times, even when you have support. No matter what you do or who you talk to, you never feel like anyone actually cares about you and you struggle to find a way out of the misery. It can get easier to cope with over time but it will never truly ever go away.
@@DJxtd__Pariah Even more than a 100 years ago there was trauma therapy, but it just was not as popular as the freudian psychoanalysis and psychotherapy. Now has is upgraded a lot and a bunch of new methods and extremely successful ones have arisen. From CBT, EMDR to art, music, game therapy and probably a lot of other things I never even heard of yet. Psychedelic-assisted therapy and microdosing. Anything that increases brain plasticity and helps you get unstuck in and pull all those traumatized little parts back together.
@@Uladzislau31 It's the 21st century; so, yes, with more and more honest, thorough, comprehensive, in-depth studies and understandings of the science of psychology being made/achieved has ALSO come the wide array of comprehensive psycho-related resources and treatments available. My point still stands, though. Forever treated and never "cured." Also, money/affordability is another huge factor, too, and is part of one of life's greatest paradoxes - in which one must work and be a contributing member of society in order to even be able to afford said resources and treatments; _BUT,_ in order to be a _HEALTHY, FUNCTIONING,_ contributing member of society, you _need_ the resources and treatments beforehand LOL. 🥲 **insert "melting face" emoji**
I was homeless too. I met Tobey Maguire on the street. Told him I was homeless and that anything helps. He said "I missed the part where that's my problem"
"YOU KNOW HOW MUCH _HE_ SUFFERRED? _HE_ SUFFERED BECAUSE OF YOU!" Sam is essentially speaking about Joe. Remember Sam survived and did everything to survive so he can return home, at the cost of killing another man, his own friend. And now he lives with that horrible guilt and can't move on from it. Meanwhile his daughter up and says his wife cheated on him with his brother (which they really didn't, they kissed and immediately regretted it), which makes him feel he killed Joe for nothing. That's what also is killing him inside.
@@wontonschannelpeople found it cheating because there is a physical (kiss)made between them but looking deeper in reality she start liking the fact how he spents time with daughter and he is changing himself for the family trying to fill the spot Even during the kisss scene they both are high and drunk and grace is mourning in grief and you know a psychological fact (when we cry usual we often laugh more)because there is a copying machaenism Her kiss is more like done in innocence then lust (lust like a fire in the jungle)she regret it and don't even talked about it later so all was done is mistake
@@anurag2262 "is mistake" Bro, no. Cheating on someone is like, 65 consecutive mistakes. It's not like you just slip and accidentally kiss someone. You have to find someone to cheat with, you have to start developing feelings, you have to entertain those feelings, you have to initiate conversation with them, you have to invite them over/ask them out, etc etc and that's only like 30% of the entire process. Cheating's not just "a" mistake, it's a whole list of "mistakes" that you intentionally decided to go through with.
@@wontonschannel if you are like she initially want all those things then it's a. Big no He is getting along with them as for the kids and even whole family came to look for grace and child but it's limited to the children if you seen the movie his captain gifted a lettar to grace sam told to give when he is no more but he belive that that's not possible that count for something That becouse in that grace had only having a funny conversation with him and had some mariuana cigerrates (although I feeling I sense of flirt b/w and you can't be serious all the time )and the moment of weakness he glanzing at her like crazy he begin kiss her and maybe I thought the weak moment let her but I think as a human we all make mistakes no body is perfect she doesn't act on it for too long and move out So maybe it would be called as weak moment
I’m drowning Tommy. That line just shakes me to my core. I work in the medical field have met patients who suffer from ptsd. It’s the most heartbreaking thing to see another person go through. Toby did an extraordinary job in this scene.
You know the directors was considered casting Josh Brolin or Vin Diesel to play as Sam from Brothers. I mean just imagine Thanos getting piss and starts screaming with rage.
Tobey’s unhinged and raw anger, rage and emotions are so powerful in this scene. Almost reminds me of the jail scene in Raging Bull when De Niro starts punching the wall.
My grandfather spent a year or two in Vietnam before he was honorably discharged. The timing of his leaving and beginning to have PTSD symptoms also coincided with schizophrenia emerging. Thankfully the police took the approach of calmly talking him down and get him psych help when he held my grandma, mom and aunts at gunpoint threatening to kill them.
I feel like repeating “you’re my brother, my family” would just be cutting into the already terrible wound. Like yeah no shit that’s one of the reasons he’s upset
Same things happens to soldiers all the time, my friend Cpl. Marcus Rutherford. It was basically this situation But he did pull the trigger on himself.
That movie with pawn sacrifice its a proof that Tobey deserved more than what he reach look at the scene from the beginning look at the expression with his face and eyes and the change he do with his voice too the guy is brilliant
@@stain4128 actually only 1 of the 3 movie notable movie relationships was her fault, this clip from brothers. Thor franchise worked out if you watch Thor love n thunder, and in Star Wars it was Anakin that fell to the dark side
Its crazy for me that people still glamorise the image of a hero soldiers . A soldier is simply a killing machine that brings death and destroys himself in the process and everyone around him and only those who witnessed the worst will truly understand how stupid the war is .
@@controversialgaming1364 For me, a soldier is a hero when they defend their home and love ones against an invading army. And yeah still doesn't change the fact a soldier will never be the same after such hellish experience.
Ngl, when I first watched this as a kid, of course I laughed seeing “Spider-Man getting mad” but when I rewatched it as an adult, I honestly shed tears because of how deep this scene was and how perfectly well Tobey was able to portray a soldier suffering from PTSD
This is bar none the greatest example of blind rage. I truly wonder if Toby has at some point in his life experienced anger to that level like some of us have.
I was so scared the whole time, his character was so unpredictable you don't know what is he going to do, one of the best performances I've seen. min 3:56 face.
Corrupted when it comes to trailer trash drunk 🍻- mediocre films like this one ☝️ no wonder his web shooting ass didn’t even receive a nomination for his role 🤣
I have never seen this movie and I actually was just on the edge of my seat. Actually intense scene that I happen across looking for Toby Maguire screaming at paparazzi. Amazing.
This movie scene actually brought my own mental illness to attention… didn’t know I had PTSD until I got tested. Crazy how you can live with it and not know
It was frankly disturbing seeing Tobey play a character so troubled like this, especially after growing up seeing him as Spider-Man Amazing acting from an actor who doesn’t get enough credit for his non Spider-Man roles
Mista _Mask okay you tom Holland fan boy. "Let's trash every movie that Toby has ever played in just because I didn't like how he portrayed spider-man" if you look at any photo of Toby recently he looks really run down and tired, now I know why. Cause people just won't shut the fuck up about him. I bet you aren't a better actor than he is, unless you can do a better job, shut the fuck up.
