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@@jackmyhre8759I put them in all three toilets of my home. Only been here 7 years and two of the three have leaked. Gotta replace the whole floor under the toilet in my second bathroom. Replaced my master bath toilet and went with the wax ring that came with it. Can’t keep ruining my floors.
Yup, those will leak way faster than a wax ring. I use jumbo wax rings with horn on almost every toilet I install. Sometimes you get away with with jumbos but I always use wax. If your too dumb to set a toilet on a wax ring maybe hire a drain tech or plumber to come do it for you!
@@outofthetoolboxtinker Idk about that.... You didn't wipe down the wall so I'm betting you didn't do the back of the tank... I'd at _least_ have done that much. 🤮
It was my house. It's old vinyl flooring and not worth scraping since toilet will be covering and planning to rip up that floor to access almost 100 year old drainage pipes to replace in a few months
That will prb be like 50 trips to the store minimum lol.I built an addition bathroom/kitchen in my guest room and I have went to the store like 20 times and counting lol still need drywall and an electric water heater outlets smh
Tried one. It advertised you could remove & replace it, which I needed to do, so I thought the higher cost would justify it. After replacing it leaked.
Thats too bad. I know there are options with the foam seals based on flange height. Maybe that affected it. ? I'm not a plumber, nor represent this product , but I've used it twice now with no problems.
@@outofthetoolboxtinker I don't know. The height was a bit off the first time but didn't leak until I replaced it with normal height, but after seeing the way the foam was compressed, I wouldn't try reusing it. Maybe fine if you don't mess with it.
Always go with wax, we wouldn’t still be using it if it weren’t superior. I can’t tell you how many of these I’ve had to come replace with a normal wax ring after someone’s hubby decided more expensive must be better and installed one of these leakers.
I would secure the bolts to the flange with a washer and nut. Also just use the blue bottom part from the “better than wax” ring and put a extra thick reinforced wax ring on top of it.
Man, i wish my valves would shut off like that. Our water is hard, iron and calcium. If you dont turn them off and on a few times a month theyll leak or just be stuck.
Probably a DIyers installing them incorrectly. Have you ever installed one to see if they work? This is only my second one and first has held well for 3 years now.
Just did this today. Took me 3 hrs and a LOT of clean up. I used the wax seal and everything seems ok so far. Except mine was leaking from the base of the bowl
i thought the sewer roaches ate it?!…lol. in florida, first thing you do after pulling a toilet is put a rag in the opening of the pipe…keeps the palmetto bugs from swarming out at you. 😳
Just because it says it's better than wax doesn't mean it actually is you dope. They viewed wax rings and plumbing since it began. Why do you think they do that ?
@alecb8509 that's strange.. as a plumber I've put in hundreds of toilets and have never used a wax ring in my life. I use the green foam rings for recessed flanges and the silicone one shown here for level, and above floor level flanges. Never has any toilet leaked on me around the base.
I agree. But I actually love the comments from plumbers. They don't seem to like them, but I'm getting the feeling that they have never used them.... I think they are basing their opinions on DIYers doing them incorrectly.
@outofthetoolboxtinker9646 I agree. Tends to be the older plumbers who are reluctant to change.. following the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" motto. Which a lot of times is rightfully justified. As long as it doesn't leak, it's a job well done from me!
I really appreciate you as a single woman. It’s tough out here on these streets anything that I can safely without seeing Jesus trying to save some money do I will do on my own ,and also is certain things that I will definitely leave to the professionals like I am not climbing on my roof to wash off my solar panels.THANK YOU! .
Having repaired/refurbished several homes over the years I have NEVER had a toilet come off that easily! 😁 Reminds me of the old Haynes Manual pictures of a spotless car in a spotless workshop. So different from lying in the road underneath an oil and crap saturated rust bucket in the poori g rain trying desperately to get this fused lump of metal to move !😜
This one did! With the exception of my not realizing proper placement of hands to lift, until I put it back. Only other toilet I ever had to move, I had to grind away rusty bolts. This one was easy.
I’ve changed many rings using both wax and those new fangled silly cone ones. No trouble with either. But when I seat the toilet to the floor I use plumber’s putty around the base so it sits nice and snug and level when tightened down. It doesn’t dry out and squeezed out putty is easily removed. Years later too.
@@trustn01rs likely prevents leak. All parts are stable and not moving. Without plumbers putty the base sitting on the tile will rock ever so slightly which would cause the wax seal to eventually be off kilter. Toilets don’t start leaking for no reason.
Wax is better than rubber?Maybe for certain applications. Wax doesn't seem to be used much in plumbing compared to rubber. The brand, our skill and our technique is important too.
Oh, now I understand the question. I didn't mind flushing. One more flesh out of hundreds or maybe thousands of flushes before I discovered this leak wouldn't cause a problem.
It might sound weird, but I may have tried a wax ring if they were a different color. Blue, pink, purple... Anything other than ear wax color. Black or dark brown would probably be best.
Those pipes are original to the house. Almost 100 years old. Going to have to rip up this floor to get to them. Will have those replaced in a few months.
Not sure about the silicone caulking; wouldn’t this hide leaking should the wax ring be sealed/seated incorrectly? You may end up with a hidden pool of water under your toilet that would end up rotting your subfloor. I would not use any caulking
In my situation I chose to. 100 year old house with sloping floor. Problem was this toilet was sealed with caulking, hiding a pool of water and turds from the failed wax ring. I siliconed as an extra barrier around the flange because of the slope. Everything within the silicone drains down in my particular situation. I chose to not caulk the toilet to the floor so any future leaks will be noticeable. Had I not been under the house looking for an active supply leak somewhere else, I would not have known of this issue. Thanks for the comment.
Wasn't quite sure. Didn't see how it could hurt anything. Saw someone else use them in another video. I figured it could help reduce possibility of cracking porcelain from a little over-tightening,. In case the washers weren't applying pressure evenly.
little tip the toilet previously had caulk around the outside do not do that because it hides leaks and traps moisture from sweating causing mold and rot
Good point, in fact as you can see in the video, it had trapped lots of gunk. If it hadn't had caulk, I would have noticed the leak much earlier. If I hadn't been under the house looking for an active supply line leak somewhere else I never would have noticed.
It is one of the old ones probably from the '70s or 80s. I don't know if it's nostalgia or what, but I want to keep it as long as I can. The extra water it uses doesn't bother me.
No. Mainly because any future leaks will be noticable without caulk. Caulking could contain a leak, and in my case rot out the floor. This is why I didn't even know I had a leak until I was under the house looking for a supply leak somewhere else.
As a plumber for 38 years and counting I have never used one of those wax gaskets are the way to go I would have never left that supply The supply needed to be changed in toilet needs to be a sealed against the floor that was probably the problem moving around
You're right, the supply will be another video. There was a seal and that was part of the problem, where the failed ring allow the leak to spread all under the toilet ( for who knows how long) and some spread under the vinyl flooring into the wood subfloor. Decided not to seal this time so any future leaks could be more evident. Only way I knew of the leak was because I was under the house actually looking for an active supply leak. Based on the wood damage, it's been leaking for months.
