@@dadang9812 I not saying im right or anything i just wanna say my opinion on this matter Have you ever seen a man using shirtless walking on streets or is it appropriate for a man to use sando or shorts in a workplace?NO prolly never will Im not saying you can't wear anything what im saying is learn limitation be appropriate in right time and right place. Everything we do like makeup,perfume, hair wax, more skin is actually a sexual provocative to both male and female. Simply women can't wear whatever they want beyond boundaries like men do. It not because of men maybe a little but because we live in a world where darkness reside rapist,pedos,psychos exist. A little precaution won't do any harm not too much not less.
@@shemramirez993 that's the point why we need to break those norms. We need to break the notion that women cant wear whatever they want. The more you exclude women and deny them of their choice of clothing, the more you hinder progression in society.
@@jungkooksthighs9936 may rights naman sila ah Culture roles at views ang iniiba ng mga "feminist" nayan Kase kung usapang rights mukhang mas lamang pa sila
All these men thinking that they have a say on womens body when there are thousands of girls and women being raped day by day and sometimes they even wear long dress,dont wear provocative clothes. Your opinion about womens body doesnt matter if youre not a women. End of discussion
i randomly get the urge to watch this because dawn was such a real feminist queen in this confrontation. every word she said was on point and idk i just admire her sooooo much.
also been watching clips of dawn here on youtube and i fall in love everytime. how she stays calm all the time despite confrontations. she's so mature. ill never understand how people hated her when this season was aired.
@@XXXX-ki3xv that women are free to wear whatever they like, its men's fault if they can't control themselves. that tommy is not being a good sport bringing up zeus just cause dawn wont give up her spot. hindi nilalandi ni dawn si zeus, she had feelings for him and so did zeus but they were both aware of their limitations and didnt do anything to cross the line.
@@bluegalaxy14 After that "women are free to wear whatever they like" he confronted her about her "movements" and how they act. No shit she is flirting with him lol
She's not plastic, she's just defending herself and getting rid to be judge by someone who doesn't know her that well! Tommy's just desperate to win and can't accept the fact that dawn deserves the spot more than he does! Tommy's whole stay was focused on Miho. And besides there are things that Tommy doesn't know about Dawn and Zeus, but here he is, judging someone so easily without even knowing the person!
The fact that she has a coffee with her while single-handedly destroying toxic masculity is giving me so much attidude, power and intelligent woman energy. She be like, gurl, wait, lemme sip my coffee for you.
Dawn absolutely got an Australian accent and their behaviour as well. I loved how she adopted English people strictness and dealing with all the people around the house and being so responsible for her tasks .
Better u realize i used to support Miho in the first place but when Tommy came in ..i switch to Dawn and even Tomiho fans bashing me for depending Dawn when this happened 4years ago atleast im happy where she is now.
I love how calm and smart she is with her words. She explained her side so well but Tommy was getting aggressive with his acussations and his way of thinking is so immature. Aside from that, why is he speaking for Zues as if they have the same minds? If Dawn and Zues were clear on the boundaries of their relationship then that's none of your business Tommy. Also, ayaw nga ni Dawn makipag debate eh pero insist parin siya to the point na he took the conversation personally. It's your thoughts and you're responsible what to do with it. We wear nice/sexy/ pretty clothes not for you men but to feel good and confident about ourselves. Problema mo na yun kung magiging manyak ka.
Big winner we never had. When it comes to personality, Dawn is the perfect example. She may have strong personality but atleast she is true to herself 🍒
i dont see any reason for tommy to attack Dawn,, his desperate... A Lady dont deserve to be attack like this by a Man for so pitty reason.. no Woman want to be in that position. .. pero c Dawn parang Gabriella Silang to Deffend her self.. thats a Wan power .... walang karapatan c Tommy husgahan c Dawn. just play the Game dont be Rude....
just accept the fact that they had this misunderstanding she's the first one who judge Tommy and obviously she is flirting with Zeus,the way she express those movement would make any guy crazy ,she has a boyfriend and so do Zeus but we all know that guys get easily attracted to girls showing their body parts and then there's dawn who flirt with Zeus and she said that they were friends oh common we both know that friends don't act that way, and for what she does ,everyday flirting with Zeus is so unlady like
@@mommydawn8709 Wala ka ring karapatan manghusga ng iba HAHAHAH wala naman lahat karapatan, pero kung hindi mo makita yung kamalian ni Tommy, then you need a brain surgery. Nakakahiya ka kung ikaw yung nagvivictim blame sa mga tao na narape dahil sa pananamit nila. So immoral and disgusting, mas malala pa sa squatter yung moral niyo.
My sister showed me this video this morning and just wanted to watch it again even of I’ve already watched it a few years ago. Tbh, Dawn deserved to be the big winner. She was so determined to win every task, she always tried her best. People are/were just bashing her because she’s strong willed, smart and sexy (not to mention that accent). ☺️
How ironic.. Tommy wanting to challenge Dawn in a debate to prove he’s more worthy and yet, he couldn’t even win this one... His arguments, what he’s saying are just... ugh!
XX XX Dawn already mentioned Her and Zeus already talked about things between them, and Tommy doesn't know what those are. he's indeed judging dawn actions like how he saw it, he didn't even asked for Zeus' stand. not to mention Zeus is already on the right age, obviously he can sense things himself. If ever he'll be fooled by anyone it would be his own fault.
@@XXXX-ki3xv sobrang busy mo kaka defend ke tommy ah, lol. sarado naman utak mo. Laos na po si tommy sya yung manggagamit talaga, walang point si tommy kahit saang angulo mo tignan, bakit si dawn lang kinausap nya pwede naman din si zues, at wala naman sya dapat business sakanila ni zues eh, wala naman sya alam. hay nako. Kaya ito nag trend uli dahil sa feminism hindi dahil sa matagal ng nangyari pa noon. di maka move on.
and seriously? nagkabotohan na nga within the housemates tapos magdedebate pa ulit in front of the housemates? Obviously, i'm with dawn. I don't see the point. Why go through all that trouble when what he's suggesting obviously does not make sense. naghahanap lang yun ng paghuhugotan ng dignidad eh.
Dawn is so right the housemates already decide and he want to debate in front of the housemates again. Tommy you just changed the conversation between you and Dawn you changed it to dawn and Zeus they can do whatever they like you don't decide it for them and stay out of there life and your because your not there parents.Tommy don't deserve the big four I wish Zeus got the spots not him.
I mean generally thinking, if you already have a winning spot, why would you risk losing that by accepting a challenge? Ego boost? It makes sense that she’d refuse the challenge.
remember Bianca Gonzales everyone? u know the difference between Dawn and Bianca? Dawn showed how in control she is inside the house while Bianca couldn't resist Zanjoe at that time. And to be honest, what happened to dawn and zeus, bianca and zanjoe, it's understandable given that they're with each other inside the house 24/7. But I applaud Dawn for showing resistance honestly. She's been very strong and I admire her for that. What's happening between Dawn and Zeus is the ugly truth happening for real in this world, outside the house. What's happening to Tommy and Miho is only a fantasy everyone wants to be part of. Everyone's hating Dawn right now because people want what Tommy and Miho have. As cliche as it sounds, we want the "forever" "Cinderella" story. We don't want to see or hear the ugly truth even when it's already there, right in front of us. Maybe we should be more understanding everyone. What we see in these videos are just 1 hour of the 24 hours inside the house. In fact, Dawn has a disavantage because all that's shown in the 1 hr clip are TOMIHO and Bailona. Dawn's lucky sometimes she gets a 5-min airtime in a day but that's never enough for someone like us to judge her or even the other housemates. Maybe we should be more considerate guys and be more understanding and open-minded.
marami lang kasi mga utak talangka at lasang ampalaya. Sorry for the word. I don't even understand why they hate Dawn that much only bec she's "messing'"with Zeus at some point when in fact there was none. They're literally blinded by kilig when Tommy and Miho are doing inappropriate things already. Hugging and touching like they're into it. They need to watch live feed so they know who's being flirt.#realtalk
nakailang ulit nako sa panunuod pero dko pa rin makita yung point ni Tommy dito, mula nung time na nangyari to ilang years na din to inulit ko na naman ngayon kase nakita ko sa tiktok at nagbakasakali akong baka magets ko na si tommy this time pero wala pa rin, dko pa rin makita yung point ni tommy😅
The way Tommy started on "convincing" Dawn in a debate and Dawn saying "no" lead to a personal topic skksksksks This whole 4-minute video is just Tommy beating around the bush, because Dawn said "no" sksksksksk
If you think I’m sexy, thank you very much. If you feel tempted, that’s your problem and not mine. I can wear whatever I wanna wear. -Dawn Chang , very on point
this is how the mind of the hetero sexual guy works lol super triggered by the things they can't control especially when it comes to minorities such as women, lgbt, etc. she nailed it. she was calm, he's not. she's minding her own business, he's bugged about it. she's living her life, he's got shit to say. classic 🤣 he's malicious, so he blames her. 🤣🤣 good job dawn! CLASS
It dates back to 17th century when men accuse of women as "witches" if they see them read,write or invent something when in fact they are really just afraid that women are smarter and more innovative than them.
I would have to disagree. Tommy thinks like that not because he is a "hetero sexual guy" but plainly because he is a misogynist. You say it like guys have this type of mindset on account of being heterosexual. It has nothing to do with their sexuality but has more to do with their principles and upbringing.
Excuse me , tommy?!? She is NOT responsible for how Zeus reacts to her. "He's a guy. He won't be able to think." ?!? That is the lamest, most invalid excuse ever. Dawn may have faults in regards to this issue and in the end she has acknowledged this. But she is only responsible for her own actions. But it takes two to tango. Zeus is responsible for his own feelings and how he had acted based on his feelings. No one else. This situation, was simply 2 adults who found chemistry and attraction in each other when placed in a confined and isolated location despite the relationship they BOTH had in the outside world. Wrong, yes. But completely normal and shouldn't have been subject to so much judgment especially on the girl's part - simply because she is a girl and she has to uphold certain behavioral standards i.e. the Mara Clara personality Filipinos love ugh. Seriously, Filipinos can be so close-minded and judgmental.
Mockingjay143 agree. besides, Dawn and Zeus already talked about their feelings and Dawn has reiterated na they can't be together because she is committed.
Mockingjay143 I agree with you. I strongly disagree with Tommy and how he said that "He's a guy and he's not able to think right". Well, sexualization and objectification of a woman is not right as well and it's out of the woman's hands. I cant believe he just said that. Im a guy too but i choose to be a feminist cause I believe that we need some more equality and give creds and respect to women. He's basically condoning men's dominance and sexual drive by blaming the women for having a sexual facade. I hate this so much. This is really stupid and shallow.
true. ngayon ko lang talaga na realized na mas deserving talaga siya sa lahat ng kasama niya sa big4. nasira lang image ni dawn sa mga tao kasi nung na link siya kay zeus tapos may gf si zeus nung time na yun.
i love dawn.. napaka matured nya mg isip.. kinakaya nya lahat ng task.. sya ang karapat dapat na maging big winner.. totoo syang tao.. at wag nyu syang husgahan kc ndi nyu sya kilala....
Tommy already accepted the fact that he lost, he gave up the effort to do the debate and so now he's just asking why Dawn's messing around with Zeus' emotions because Zeus doesn't deserve that. Actions speak louder than words, Dawn and your actions are a far cry from your words. If he's just a friend then act like it, don't lead him on and set things straight between you two, make limits and boundaries that you can't always cross.
2019..i was tempted to comment bec.alot of people are comparing him to Andre..ive watched their season...and i knew then tht tommys not sincere to miho..sunggab fame lang siya..see how she pushed Dawn here to her limit?..hes so competitive...
In this situation i really did think that tommy did attack dawn, purely because of the fact that he is not included on the big four. It is also hypocritical when he states that dawn thinks so highly of herself; because clearly he does aswell as he thinks that he deserve the spot. I understand that he is entitled of his own opinion and or fighting for his 'well deserved' spot. However it doesnt give him the right to question Dawn's action and accusing her of stuff. What is between Zeus and Dawn is non of business; especially when he doesnt know the whole truth. With that been said; i think dawn deserves the spot as she shows more dedication and leadership when it comes to the tasks wher as Tommy only argues about how he is willing to give up everything for Miho. And that to me is not a good enough reason for him to be on top.
i love dawn......napakaprofessinal niya....kahit init na init na ang usapan nila ni tommy...she remain calm....kng sa iba pa yan....cguro salpukan na yan.....super chill
