GX100 and GT1000 options are best for use with ToneX because both units have minimal latency around 1ms. Tonex is around 3 so the whole latency will be around 4 ms which is a pretty low number. Using fractal or QC will make it bigger since both units are around 3.5 ms so the whole latency will jump to 7ms.
@@zaporoshti3392 also you won't need a Tonex with a QC or Fractal, unless in exceptional cases that you want to capture some rare vintage amp or pedal that you have.
I am selling my Quad Cortex, as I think this set up gives me far more scope, an 'ultimate' rig. The QC is excellent, but the total price of these units is a lot lower. Thank you Paul for putting these two units together and coming up with this set up.
A video with the Tonex and the GT 1000 Core would be great! The GX is in the next generation but it’s too big to fit well in the pedalboard. I’d prefer using it alone and dig for a good tone. Waiting for the “GX-100 Core”… GX-1000 and 1000 Core too…
Thanks Paul! This was exactly the video I wanted to review before pulling the trigger on this one… just finished installing and started playing, this pedal is a must!!! Thanks for the great content you produce!!!
Hey Paul, I’ve working with the TONEX and GX100 and need some help here … when I plug the guitar to TONEX and then to the return (PWR IN) of my amp I have certain amount of volume… when I add the TONEX to the effects loop of the GX100 there is a considerable volume loss (even with just SND/RTN on the effect chain)… how do I fix this?
The same Send/Return loop exists was a feature of the older BOSS GT series units (GT-100, GT-10). Using something like a ToneX or Strymon Iridium with these older MFX could be a useful solution, especially if you add in MIDI control of the modeller by the MFX unit to give you patch-based foot-switching.
I just got my Tonex Pedal yesterday for this very reason. I also have a GX-100. One thing I think you could have added to your video is... and people should know this, but you can save presets in the GX-100, with and without the effects loop in the chain. Most importantly, you could also control the Tonex Pedal for different presets, via MIDI. May be a good follow up video to this one. At least I hope it will work that way. That's another reason I use the GX-100, is so it can be a MIDI Controller for the Tonex Pedal. I have not had enough time to try that part yet. I'm still checking out presets and working on my 1st successful capture. If you have already used the GX-100 as a MIDI Controller, please let me know if it works. I would appreciate that very much. What I'm wondering about is how quickly it will load new presets on the fly as you're playing a song. Like in a live situation. I'm hoping it's spontaneous without any delay time between presets. Thanks so much for the timely video. It's right down the same road I'm on at this moment.
I can’t get the gx100 to play nice with any of my tube amps with the four cable method. But with the tonex it sounds really solid in this video. Well done!!
Tonex should replace your amp, the 4 method cable would not make sense, what you could do is to connect your Tonex at the return of your amp and use only the power amp section of your amp. That sounds amazing for my usecases.
Great video, Paul. This is my current setup and it's killer. I've added a Hotone FS-1 Ampero Footswitch to quickly switch between banks on the ToneX pedal. I'm thinking of trying out MIDI with this setup but I'm not quite sure how yet.... maybe you could do a follow up video for MIDI use with this setup 😀
This is exactly how I use my ToneX as well, except I use the GT1000 because it’s smaller, so it fits on my board with other pedals better. It sounds fantastic.
Hi @studiorats, nice video I just got my tonex. when I plug in the Boss gx100 It looks like It colours the tonex captures. Did you set Up or Eq somehow tonex or the Boss gx in order to get such a great tone?
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Great video. I have a question, It is not a problem the impedance of the connextiins, I mean, the input on tonex expect an instrument level, and the out on tonex is a line level, the send and return on gx100 expect to be instrument level?
Paul, I love your GX-100 videos. Wondering if you could make a quick video on how to setup tap tempo on the unit. Having a difficult time trying to figure out. Boss made this much mor difficult than it should be. Thanks
Idk still love the quad Paul. Amps and pedals first but the feel and sound are there and best UI ever. I don’t care re a pc. It’s coming anyway. It’s in beta mode right now but plug ins? The capture’s neural has are in the quad and are better than the plug ins. Yes they promised so did other companies like Kemper.
As the input is instrument and output is line, would you mind sharing both global level, please? I've just ordered one and will do the same with my GTK.
This was my thought as well... the amps in the GX100 are hardly shabby... yes Tonex then gives more options... but the GX100 amps are surely more than good enough for most applicaiotns.
The GX-100 amps are fantastic. Boss have done an amazing job. But once I added the ToneX pedal to the GX-100 and found great captures the amps sounds and tones are on another level. They sound and feel better.
@cgcarreno The short answer: no, it's not a huge improvement. It's only worth it (or better, a MOD Dwarf) if one intend to profile their own amps... but with the amount of well done amp/IR profiles available online, I don't see the point of one doing its own. For 'end users' who only plan to load amp sims/cab IRs (that is: 99% of the target market of ToneX), better save on that ToneX thing and get oneself a real 4*12 cab or a new guitar with different pups instead, a much better investment! The long answer: what most YT infuencers forget to mention, is that in order to have their 'ToneX' sounds (a bit) better, they had to shell out not only the price of the floor unit ($400) but also a big chunks of $ to buy a series of amp sims and cab IRs that are decent, because what gets preloaded/available on IK's website for free is pretty much below what Boss pre-loads in their unit. And they forgot to mention as well that they compare the stock amps and IRs of the Boss with the custom loaded ToneX amp and IRs - an unfair comparison, since Boss GX-100 can also have custom IRs loaded. They also forget to mention that if the pre-loaded amps of the Boss are not satisfactory to one's hear, there are free amp capture (NAM) and IR loaders around that do the job as well, or better. The ONLY plus of ToneX are not the tones, but the fact that it's a floor unit (aka if one wanted to quickly switch amp/cab in the middle of a song... but who does that, seriously?). But again, there are several options that do the same - and much better (cf MOD Dwarf). In a nutshell: the comparison is not Boss GX100 vs ToneX pedal, it's: Boss GX100 + stock amp/IRs vs GX100 + custom amp/IRs (from any source - free softwares, floor units... doesn't have to be Tone X). My 2cents: tone wise, a slight improvement can be heard if doing a side-by-side comparison, and out of a mix. In a band, it's impossible to hear any valuable improvement. And even when playing solo, one would forget about the slight differences after 5min of playing. Custom amp captures+IRs improves things a bit over the pre-loaded amps+cabs, but definitely not at 'another level' to my hear as Boss pre-loaded stuff is great, and definitely not worth the big chunk of money that ToneX would need to work properly (unit purchase + all the files to purchase online). But I could see why one who has shelled out that amount of money for ToneX (+ extra money for ToneX to sound great) want to convince themselves of the opposite (buyer's bias). Same for influencers, who need to justify the free unit they got.
Hi Paul, I see you're using the stereo outs on the GX100. Do you recomend this live and if so does both outputs need to be panned on the PA ? And having only one monitor would you send both left and right ? Thank you
Can you make a video talking about all the possible connections that you can do with the Tonex and a multi effects by MIDI? I would like to learn how to connect each other , bought pedals has Midi In and Out, and also have sound inputs,can I use both ?midi and sound at the same time? I have the pod hd 500x is similar like yours 🤔🎸
@@cliffsewell1361 yeah works just fine, although you need to make sure that the right signal level is going in to the tonex (either boost the input gain on tonex or the send level on pod go). One nice thing you can do is program a switch to toggle between the pod go's amp and cab sim and the tonex. You could also use the pod go hack where you remove the type restrictions on the blocks and allow extra effects. Having said all that, I've used the tonex software a lot more than the pedal as its so convenient to use, so don't find myself using the pedal as much as I thought I would (still need to spend an evening loading it up with my favourite amps).
Great video as usual Paul! Been using a similar setup with my Kemper and have found it to be a great addition. I like having the TONEX as another option for amps as well as drive pedals. It's been great to also link the two via MIDI so that the TONEX switches banks with the Kemper rigs and performances. Loving the flexibility with technology today.
Hola excelente video queria preguntarte si el pedal tonex funciona con la gx 100 no hace falta ninguna interfaz puedo conectarlos entre ambos y luego reproducirlo por mi caja directa es asi? gracias
Great idea! I tried to setup my boss GX 100 in 4cm with a Victory V4 Sheriff amp pedal and it sucked a lot of the tone. Any tips on mitigating this? Cheers!
Hey Paul, thanks so much for posting this. I was wondering, with this method, can I still run the output of the gx 100 into a tube amp to get an amplified sound but take full advantage of the ToneX amps? Or will the amp in the mix cause a muddy sound? Thanks
Hi, i have those two pedals, bought just after seeing this video but unfortunately, i don't know how to tweak it and i'm about to sent it back.. the sound is horrible, it has so many highs and i can't set it right... I'm coming from an FM3, i dont really know how to manage those two pedals together and i miss my fm3 sound... And it's frustrating because when i watch that kind of video, i hear that it is possible to have a great sound...
Hi Paul, Thanks for the very informative video. Now I'm really tempted to get the Tonex pedal to go with my gx100. I'm wondering how the Tonex changes the reactive response feel of the gx100 when it's used with it. Does it make much of a difference? I'm more interested from a live point of view rather than a recording situation. Cheers
Dumb question, but why would you want to use a ToneX if you have a GX 100, which has lots of good amp options. Is it just for when 1) you don’t like any of the GX 100 amps or 2) you want to capture your own amp? I feel like I’m already drowning in amp choices, so the last thing I want would be to try out 100 more. Unless the ToneX sounds so much better for some reason?
@@TheStudioRats Thanks. I was under the impression that the “simulations” are also captures of real amps, professionally recorded, rather than sims created from scratch. Is that wrong? If the Tonex sounds better or more realistic, then that is indeed a good reason to put it in the chain. I thought it was more for those who wanted to do their own captures of real amps, if it’s not already in a tone library.
This is awesome as i have the gx100, im planning getting either the tonex to bolster my amp tones Or The fishman platinum acoustic preamp for my acoustics and 2 strats i put ghost piezo saddles in..... Do you think i would get the same quality in tones just using the gx100 as the acoustic preamp combined with the tonex for a better acoustic amp model? or is it worth buying a decidated preamp like the fishman??? Its hard to find any videos doing a comparison like this 😂
@@TheStudioRats sure, I just thought the 4cm defines only scenarios with two units having each their individual effect loops. Hence the mod and time based effects going back to (typically) your amp but sitting in front of the power amp section and before the speaker. In this case the Tonex would also need its own loop. I admit it is quite hairsplitting though because your set up just works fine😊. Thanks for the video and the demonstration.
I think it's an option for more amps and cabinets other than the stock amps and cabs in the GX 100 and used the overdrive and other effects from the GX 100 along with the tonex.. So with its addition it basically adds a huge tonal possibilities for the GX 100...
