To the misinformed people claiming Tony "stole" the 900. What the Pappas Documentary didn't show is that Tony had been trying the 900 since the late 80's and even had a photo sequence of a near make in a magazine years prior to the 900 he landed at the X-Games.
He did not steal the 900. No one did. At the time, everyone was trying it. Besides it's just a freaking 900 degree spin. It's not like the trick is incredibly creative to begin with.
ninjadude183 Besides the Jenkem article that just came out on the subject, this is the conclusive argument. Made me chuckle. Tony's earned every inch of his career, and he's one of skateboarding's greatest contributors.
ninjadude183 Doesn't matter. What Tony Hawk did was shady. He used his fame and money to kick Tas out, and steal his trick. I admire Tony Hawk for being one of the innovators of the sport of skateboarding, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized for kicking Tas out of the Best Trick Contest to boost his fame and fortune.
+Digitaldude23 the only one claiming that is true, is Tas. here are a few people claiming Tas is shit. People need to realize that Tas's people made that documentary, its meant to shed tony in a bad light and Tas in a good on. Tony could easily make a documentary showing the exact opposite
I remember when this happened. The whole event just was put on hold and the competition didn’t matter anymore, everyone was cheering him on and showing him love I miss these days
You can't steal a trick nobodies landed. Don't know what happened at the xgames that Tas couldn't compete but I do know there was a race to do the 900 for many years. Rodney Mullen invented almost every trick there is. Anytime a skater does an Ollie they're technically stealing his trick
They're aren't saying they stole the trick they're saying they stole the moment because Tas wasn't allowed to compete without reason they forced him to not have a chance
The whole thing was just sketchy. Someone already had the high score and hawk ran out of time before he landed the 900. He should've lost and tried again next year. Besides the whole Tas getting screwed out of having a chance
And today he does the first successful horizontal loop. This guy is groundbreaking, even in 2015. Easily the most influential and successful skateboarder to ever walk the earth.
Maybe his name but is you were to run into him on the streets you would think nothing... Now if u run into Michael jordan with out ever seeing him.. you would immediately feel the M.J. precedence.
As a member of /r/skateboarding, you can forget all about Mr. Wes Kramer and any of the bangers he laid out this year. Tony Hawk is the true master of skateboarding and I must contend that his frontside ollie is one of the best in the business. How does such an old man like myself become so knowledgeable about skateboarding? Well you see, I teach a lot of youngsters at Marshdale Cottage Community Center about Bitcoin Science and after class the youngsters like to get a little extreme by doing some "big airs" off of the jump ramps at the park near by! Haha, well it has been a pleasure commenting on this video and I hope to see you again soon. Doctor Professor Marvin Schwartz Doctor Professor of Bitcoin Science, skateboarding enthusiast and crusader against longboarding
Tony Hawk completly changed my life. Him and his games made me love skating and punk music, I've been skating for a very long time now and that's because of you Tony. I love you! You pretty much took the skating to another level.
+drz "Lol Tony Hawk is a real person?" Really though, this has to be some new level of achievement. When you're so much larger than life that the waterheads in the next generation don't even believe you were real.
actually crazy that the 90s was all about street skating and vert skating was over. then tony hawk does the 900 mid '99 and creates a whole new generation of skaters/ including my 9 year old self at the time.
God I'm old. Not only do I remember this, I remember watching the first "big" skateboarding competition on television. It was a big air comp with Tony (long floppy hair at the time XD) and I think Christian Hosoi. Not even sure if X-Games were around yet. Also, I remember Tony was the underdog and people watched for Hosoi at the time :D. Also remember watching the Bones Brigade videos (on VHS!) and Gleaming the Cube.
Ramon Zuniga I just turned 28 this last September. I was only 12 in the Summer of 1999 going on 13 when this happened and I can't believe it's been that long.
Yo no tengo nada que ver con el skate ni se nada de ese deporte pero esa hazaña de alguna manera llego hasta mis oidos, vi el video, me compre los juegos en playstation de skate y desde ese entonces me encanto (eso hace muuuchos años) :)
think about it for a minute..... Has Tas ever landed the 900 on a vert ramp? Nope... he did his on a mega which means he had a lot more air. I'm not saying its easier, but the 1999 x games best trick contest wasn't on a mega. Drop in on a vert ramp and land the 900 today.. He is 39.. Tony last did a 900 at 42 and he could still do one today. Nobody has dedicated themselves to skateboarding more than Tony. All of his rivals were busy doing drugs and hard time he kept skating... Just watch perched (among many, many other parts) .... nough said
I mean the guy who invented the ollie and lots more and the modern look of the skateboard itself practiced for 9 hours a day and invented the casper/darkslide so ..
damn that landing when he was in the red shirt was BOMBBBB... so crazy... people that have landed it since then or have attempted.. said its one of the hardest tricks ever. they said to spin that many times u dont even know where u are on the ramp, and you basically leave it up to luck. crazy
first of all, i want to say this, this trick looks awesome and extremely difficult, secondly i want to say this, I have skated since the 90's, but i was good at it, so respect to tony, but.. IN ALL FAIRNESS (i don't know what the exact rules are on this trick with kids today and what defines this trick) but.. I'm just saying, I watched this vid, like 7 times,and in slow motion. this is called a 900 .. right, im guessing that means 2.5 turns, because 360+360+180=900 of course, now. if tony started his flip from a 90 degree angle relative to the ground, it stands to reason that he actually did a 720 , not a 900 because he and his board were at 90 degrees to ground level when the trick started and had to be at that same angle in order to land on the half pipe.. right. so , How is this 900 degrees, Unless your counting the part where he skates up the ramp to get to 90 degrees and the skate down, but... even though that would explain 900 degrees, it's not a flip of 900 degrees, it would be a skate up of 90 , a flip of 720 and skate down of 90, if he actually pulled off a 900, He wouldn't be able to land on his feet , he would be upside down , relative to his starting position on the ramp. the only other explanation is .. if, in the middle of the trick he did some sort of inverted flip, Whereby it caused him to upside down, then landing at 720 would put him upside down and 900 would put him the right way up... the problem is... even in slow motion, i didn't see him do that, I can do a sommersault, i know what they look like when you do them in a plain circle , and i know what it looks like when you flip the circle, he didn't invert it. so how the hell did he pull off a 900 and land on his feet, I don't think he did, it honestly looks like a 720, 2 Standard Sommersaults , one after the other. if anyone can tell me otherwise, i would be really really interested to know the explanation, and Please.. don't say stuff like , Tony just that good or that fast, Give me a Logical explanation to it. THANKS GUYS
lol, Then why bother responding, Just saying, it doesn't make sense, if everyone who decided it was too long to read, posted TLDR, the whole forum would be full of TLDR LOL
No flips were involved in this trick. It's a 900 degree spin. Not a flip. I didn't see him flip, I saw him spin 900 degrees and land perfectly on his feet.
Riki Hurley Hi Mate, so.. your saying that he's spinning, as in twisting from his hips. as opposed to a sommersault where your legs go over your head. oh, ok, that would make sense, to me, when he went into the first turn, it looked like a slanted sommersault, but a sommersault none the less, but it was quick at the beginning. so if your saying he did a spin, whereby the bottom of the board was always facing the face of the half pipe, yes, then that makes sense, i thought he was doing 2.5 sommersaults and wondering if it was 900 degrees how didnt he land on his head. LOL, thanks for clearing that up. appreciate it.
you are think about this wrong... its a spin, from the center mass. thats it. and think of if he went off a kicker not up and down on a halfpipe. its a 900.
1zin1 No.. Your right, i get it now, but initially because the take off spin was so fast, i throught it was a sommersault , now i understand that it's a spin from the centre mass, hence.. logically why he is able to land on his feet after a 900, appreciate the technical explanation anyway, thanks
because tas papas was trying to do the 900 before tony. and he was going to try to do it in the x games. but they took him out of competition at the last minute. and then tony was trying to do the 900 in the same competition. It's a little weird what happened there. don't you think
Tas Pappas never landed the 900. Not before, not after. I'm sure he wouldn't have landed it in the x games either cause he never landed it on a half pipe.
I do not know if tony landed the 900 before. but everyone knew that papas was trying that trick before everyone. and he wanted to try in the x games. and you're right, maybe he could not do the trick. but he is not angry because tony landed his trick. he is angry because they took his chance try to be the first to do it in competition. when I say them I say the people of the x games.
Kyle Bane Watch a documentary called ALL THIS MAYHEM. You'll see. There is video footage of Tas getting very close on film, without even pushing it. Just testing the waters and he nearly nailed it. He would have done it.
remember when one of the Pappas brothers "allegedly" attempted to have another pro skater killed? been watching any biased Documentary's lately? greg humiston
That definitely should of been Tas Pappas glory. After seeing that documentary I just started building up a lot of disrespect for Tony Hawk. He knew Tas was going to pull that 900
+FerroriTV no. I was in my in my teens during that time, and there were only a select few people who would have been reconized anywhere in the world and mj was one of them. He could have got out of a taxi in Slovakia somewhere and they would have known who mj was
not even now dude.he plays basketball.europe couldnt give a shit about basketball.africa couldnt give a shit about basketball.he is only really known in the US.
+Reeve Isaacs The game series might be enough for most people to have heard the name, it's still not quite enough for people to really recognize or appreciate his mark, where as basketball is such a massively watched sport of all ages and demographics. Michael was on the top of the sport as well, and during his prime it was impossible to not know him. Tony's name is surely out there, and he's definitely not small-time, but most people know who Michael Jordan was and what he did, while Tony is not as relevant to people who have no interest in skateboarding. There's still plenty of overlap on people who know anyways, but basketball is by far the mainstream sport.
+TheKosh123 Yes he is. Basketball is not that massively big and popular outside of the US. Maybe in some countries. Skateboarding is way more popular than basketball i'd say in most places of the world. Besides, dude has a fucking legendary videogame that bears his name on it. Yeah there's NBA games aswell but they never even came close to a tony hawk game. So i'd say yes, worldwide he is more popular than Jordan.
***** I get your point. But as i'm saying, are you american? I dont want to make assumptions, but if you are, that's probably why you would think that. and that's normal, cause basketball is so huge over there. and no, im not sure of it because i dont know most of the countries knowledge about MJ or basketball, but over here in brazil i think its safe to say that tony hawk is indeed more famous. basketball is really not that big here.
