I really don't think triple h did that to him. It was like a house of cards, one blow and it all came tumbling down. 😂😂😂 Its like I am back in high school, watching a super geek having neurotic attacks, anxiety, asthma all at once while he pisses in his pants... And nope, the bully wasn't even there physically. You know what I mean?
@@UKpowerunleashed lol wwe absolutely shook TK bro asking Osprey to cut that promo airing the All Out footage i mean it's embarrassing.. This video of him just telling people to stay aint bad but he shouldn't be the one doing imagine Vince or Hunter doing that ... They have a team for that stuff
nxt is offically better and i've HATED NXT since Black and Gold was killed by Vince this 3.0 or whatever it's considered now is okay but atleast has stories that flow from week to week aew is just 2 people wrestling with no story ...
FYI there is context. WCW had bigger stars on the roaster that could draw. Take away former WWE talent like Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Bret Hart, etc. WCW would never beat the WWF. WCW even had up an coming talent like Steve Austin who was actually signed by WWE because of Bret Hart. Bret Hart wanted to have a match with him. WCW had such a good roaster that WWE talent were watching thinking of dream matches and who they could sign from WCW. AEW has not gotten to that point yet, but there is one main guy WWE fans want WWE to sign and that is MJF. HHH was hearing the MJF chants at WWE event.
WCW was way better but to be fair they also had way better resources to work with. The talent they were able to take from the WWF would be the equivalent of AEW getting guys like Cena, Roman, Brock etc today.
This was at Truist Arena in Highland Heights Ky. There are 10,000 seats total. If AEW can’t fill that stadium, they won’t be filling any Stadium. On the flip side, Smackdown will be coming to the area at the end of April and tickets are almost sold out.
@@reconegade4006 WWE house shows have been out drawing AEW Dynamite and Collision tapings. AEW still gets solid live audiences for their PPV events but even then I don't think they're sellouts.
They do go to smaller venues. When they came to Charlotte, they were at bojangles arena and not spectrum center which is a much bigger venue. No idea if it was a sell out. I would think it would have a decent turn out since the Carolinas have produced several wrestlers.
I remember going to a TNA show in 2012 and didn't find out it was a double tv taping until i got there. Stayed for the whole +4 hours and didn't see anybody leave. Helps that the show had Sting, Kurt Angle, AJ Styles and other stars on the show. But in 2024 its hard to get people motivated to stay when the matches and people involved just aren't that important anymore.
When I was 10 years old, I was at a Smackdown taping a half hour from me and after Smackdown was over, now remember, this was when the brand had the giant fist still, immediately after that, there was an ECW taping and the crowd didn't leave or anything, they stayed.
How about doing ROH first. Who wants to watch the main show then stay to watch a bunch of lower tier guys for a couple more hours? That's like being served a steak, first, then getting a salad right after. Really? What a 🤡. But his die hards will defend him. AEW was good in the beginning. It's a clown show now.
👏 that’s exactly what I was thinking. People are drained by 11pm and he wanted them to stay for longer? No, start ROH at 6pm, collision at 8. It’s not that complicated…
@@thebeardbeastxthe only problem with that is absolutely no one would show up for an ROH taping by itself. There's not enough star power to draw a real crowd.
Several months ago a wrestling fan said he came out 5 times begging people to stay. Triple HHH doesn't go out 3 or 4 times begging people to stay. Because he has a better product.
Paula Veck would also send anybody else to go out there and fill time. Triple H has business ti take care of and can’t be tasked with keeping people busy in between shows.
I watched this video for longer than I’ve ever watched anything aew and that includes punks first appearance. I only watched for Wardlow and punk and they aren’t doing shit with the only future star they have in Wardlow
How would you KNOW if you were too young to even watch stop going along with what people are saying on RU-vid just to crap on a wrestling company think for yourself
I was alive when WCW died, and AEW is worse because it was never shit. Tony Kahn is a joke of a human being. A weak people pleaser whose afraid of confrontation can’t own a wrestling company. This is proof.
@@isitoveryet9525he ain’t wrong, but people didn’t like AEW because it was overall good, they liked it because it was better in comparison to Vince’s WWE. Now that Vince isn’t in charge and Triple H is, they still refuse to see that AEW actually sucks.
That stadium looks left than half-full, specially for multi show event. It is just sad, plain sad, and it's been like that for AEW for quite some time for most of their shows.
@@derek-64 Wow what a relief, I guess Tony has nothing to worry about... Still less than half-full. In the words of the wordsmith MJF: "YOU FUCKING MARK"
@@ZynnonKOF6432 The terminology (semantics) is your defense, that's it!? A "more than half-empty arena is not as bad as a more than half-empty stadium" argument, go cry you mark. It is a failure either way.
The Will Osprey promo was the one that really ruined him. He is saying this cause he knows he gave Osprey way lesser dates. Than WWE would ever do. Trips killed him and Osprey with the grind line he threw in there. Trips killed without trying to. On Smackdown they had fun taking shots at TK. Just like Osprey did to him on AEW TV. The Bloodline segment where Heyman told Solo wining and losing matter here. Clear shot at TK and AEW's ranking system. That tbh never works. Wrestling is a story. With characters.
@@Hush_Money2AEW couldn’t grind like WWE _if they tried._ Imagine All Elite selling 8-10 live shows a week, booking its wrestlers to do autograph signings, television & radio appearances, etc. Gets real hard to do that when Oceanspray has to fly over 8 hours from another continent.
See I never understood why Tony Couldn't have just Moved ROH to a TV deal rather than creating Rampage and Collision. You would think doing so Would Put more eyes on ROH
Tony's been coming out to every show for the 6 shows and one ppv I've been to throughout the years. For all he is people for get that he seems like a nice dude regardless of being 50/50 as a promoter
I follow wrestling regularly (lmao😂) and even I left when we were invited to Collision. We smartly decided to beat the traffic, as the only name there any of us were familiar with was Athena/Ember Moon. Later that night I read online what matches occurred, and I was beyond thrilled with my decision to split...
I want AEW to succeed because it’s good to have another mainstream wrestling product. But hat CM Pubk footage might’ve started the downfall. Even TNA wasn’t that dumb.
The problem is the guy has an ego, is spoiled, and used to getting what he wants. He pays a shit ton of guys a shit ton of money and he can't get one of them to go out and hype the crowd? Dude is a the stereotype of a wrestling dork. Except, he has billions. More power to the guys taking this mark for all his money.
Yeah but half of the roster is old WWE guys edge, Christian, Billy gunn, Chris Jericho, big cass, samoa joe ect most of that roster usually only do one show a week mainly dynamite or rampage. AEW is cluttered with wrestlers half of them aren't used.
In the beginning there was Cody and ppl working with good stories after stupidity known as Tkhan , Jboy , ybuck and Kmega struck it's claw on AEW it's all downhill
I can say it sometimes isn't even the brand. A lot of people are an hour or so from home and these shows start at 8, the stuff after goes until 11-12 and a lot of people don't want to get home at 1AM on a weekday. When I've been thats why we left, there were still matches we wanted to see but we wanted to beat the traffic leaving the parking garages, and we wanted to be home before 1AM.
The only thing valuable about ROH is the Tape Library. The brand is dead. And dragging it's corpse around is diminishing the perception of the MAIN brand.
I went to an AEW show in Buffalo right after brawl out. TK came out to cut a promo and got booed out of the building nobody thinks it's cool to see him lol. People were leaving while he was talking
Tony is a dork. That's why he is so damn ackward. People like you saying I love tony is why he is uncontrollable. He only listens to people who baby him
@droid4d279 are you comparing an 8 minute scripted match to football game? Don't forget football teams actually practice and game plan for the next game. They only have 1-2 days off a week.
Honestly i want aew to do better really. I am gonna support aew IF THEY START BUILDING FUCKIN STORY. omg. No more indy shit. Maybe just maybe... vince x aew?
That's the issue. Tony doesn't want to build story. He wants to just put out "Dream Matches," so daddy Meltzer can give them their 5 stars and draw 0 dimes in the process. He can go ahead and keep saying everything is great while his average viewership continues to dip. I was pretty excited for AEW at one point. It's just embarrassing now and Tony is not Vince, he's a mark who wants to be buds and nothing else.
At this point Tony needs to pre tape ROH in a fixed location such as Orlando. I get the logistics to leverage one location such as this night (Collision then Battle of the Belts then ROH). But perception is reality. Or better yet, strip down ROH and co-promote it with the hot triple AAA promotions that do Saturday night cards. He may be hamstrung to present Collision as live. If so then again co-promote with a good triple AAA promotion in area. Smaller crowd but sell out crowd would still look good.
When I went to AEW Dynamite in San Diego, TK came out to speak to the crowd before the show started to thank everyone and then once Dynamite ended, to try and get people to stick around and watch Rampage. It seemed a bit chaotic as he scrambled to find the words to try and hype to get the fans excited and stick around. I find it hard to believe that he still seems to be doing this with no true hook or script to entice people to stick around. Its unfortunate that he is close minded to feedback that will help AEW in the long run.
I love AEW & TK, but he really needs to reboot & restructure AEW & ROH. A hard brand split, designating a seperate booking team for each brand & making ROH their own thing with their own studio to be filmed would immediately improve their product. They have the tools & have potential, but the need structure & focus. Everything is all over the place.
He does this at every show. I went to Stings last Dynamite in Huntsville AL and Tony said pretty much said the exact same banter with the crowd, Justin Roberts, and the ring crew. He's definitely using his "Big Boy" voice on the mic lol
Lmao this is absolutely embarrassing, this happens with EVERY wrestling company. It happened when I saw TNA live in 2016 with them asking the fans to stay for the taping of Xplosion and One Night Only promising a battle royal afterwards and it happened at a smackdown taping I went to in 2017 when they asked the fans to stay behind for 205 live and in exchange there’d be an extra special main event dark match (which turned out to be Shinsuke vs Ziggler). Because it’s TK and AEW/ROH it’s pathetic though lmao 😂
They need to have a show for AEW and one for ROH. Turn Collision into ROH Collision. Scrap Rampage and have a brand split between Dynamite and Collision. Have a total of ten titles, five on each brand. AEW World Championship, AEW Continental Crown Championship, AEW Women’s Championship, AEW Women’s International Championship, & AEW Tag Team Championships. ROH: ROH World Championship, ROH Pure Championship, ROH Women’s World Championship, ROH Women’s Television Championship, & ROH World 6-Man Tag Team Championships.
I went to Collision here in Vegas/Henderson. He did the same speech asking people to stay for ROH. He just wants to have a good look in the background for this show. Not a meltdown just asking people to stay.
I was at this show and Joe let me tell you, I was out through the wringer. Me and my buddy showed up and all was well, I met Mark Briscoe outside the arena and I was having the time of my life, collision was good and then we get to battle of the belts…. I know this is a lot so I’m apologizing in advance. The security team comes up to us and asks for our tickets, I have no connection in the arena. A minute later 2 big men came and KICKED ME AND MY FRIEND OUT OF THE ARENA. Literally threatened my friend, it was absolutely ridiculous and upsetting. Keep in mind we had watched Collision with ZERO issues, but all the sudden they were freaking out to see our tickets when battle of the belts came along. It was insane man.
@@maklame3318 trust me there was an argument. They brought up many more security guards so it was me and my friend vs 6 huge dudes who were ready to call more backup, gotta be smart man.
In basketball terms..WWE is the nba…NXT is college and AEW semi pro where u may see guys that couldn’t make it in the big league and u may recognize some names.
Tony doesn't realize that Dynamite is a TV taping on a week night. You already got 3 hours of wrestling entertainment. But if you got to be at work the next day you don't always want to stay at the arena until midnight which means you're probably not going to get home until 1 AM. It's like dude I already got a full evening of entertainment, I don't need to see a ROH taping also.
When I went to Collison in February there was about 6,000 fans and half of the arena was sectioned off. The ROH started from 6-7 and then Collison lasted from 7-9. Afterwards TK did the exact same thing but with FTR and Danny Garcia talking to stay to watch ROH because they were going to be signing stuff after ROH ended.
This is like when Spinal Tap played to a smaller, “more selective” audiences. Is there like 1900 people there? He made a Faustian bargain the EVPs and it has simply fallen apart. When the son of a billionaire is begging, it’s purely pathetic.
I see why people were leaving. If u look at the titantron at the beginning it has Battle of the Belts, so thats means the people there sat through AEW Collision, Battle of the Belts and ROH.
Why doesn't he just do what Ring of Honor did and book a small venue and film four weeks worth of Ring of Honor TV? He could even go the old TNA route and do two months of TV in two days.
AEW is doing like 5 hour shows. 3 hours is a good length to a show. He needs to take ROH to Universal and tape it their twice a month. I know ROH fans are upset. But it's a dead brand. It's nothing more than AEW Dark now.
At 1:22 that’s me with my 2 buddies on that last row on the floor. We where in the stands when staff asked us if we wanted to move down to the floor near the end of battle of the belts
ROH needs to be its own show on a different night selling smaller arenas. Let it sink or swim on it's own. Don't demand that the same audience sit through another 2hrs after sitting for 2hrs.
Went to Collision a couple weeks ago. 7pm: ROH 8pm: Collision 10pm Rampage. 4hrs. Felt like we got our money's worth for sure but I was exhausted by the end. Half the croud left for Rampage, I just wanted to see Malakai Black.