Here shares Tony Parsons his life from a seeker to nothingness. Quite interesting story he's telling. Furthermore, his humour makes it a very pleasant story to listen.
I love the rapport between these two even though the one doesn't know what the heck the other one is going on about! It's like Monty Python-esque spirituality!
Oh Tony, I love hearing you, your giggle, clarity, and simple, simple message- though no speaker and no message.... many year ago I used to come to your visits in Munich. And thank you interviewer... love you talking together
"What you are longing for is already there". It is very useful interview. The message is very simple and direct. No one has ever explained the way Tony is explaining the oneness.
Yes true. There are so many who explained this path well. Recently I started listening to Paul Hadderman who is explaining the truth very simple and direct way. He is basically focusing on what we aren't. Once we realize what we aren't, what we're will be revealed to us.
An wonderful interview with Tony Parsons, enjoyed thoroughly. Conversations were full of clarity with rare gems of truth. The valuable message of oneness is simple and relaxing. English subtitles were truly helpful for grasping the content.
So, it's like my night time dreams: I don't make plans; things just happen. The car turns into a boat, the horse turns into a dog........I have no control. Only rarely a sudden insight. I don't even try to control what happens.
What a lovely interview! I have to confess though that I found it quite frustrating all throughout how little the interviewer was hearing what was being communicated.:)
tony is a joy to listen to! min30:56 he talks about the brain and it´s artificial constructs while, in ultimate reality, there is not even a brain ... . it´s all about awareness that appears as certain data (brain, body, individual, objects, subjects ..) - like a rainbow in the sky: it is there and yet not really existing in a tangible way. it comes and it goes from formless emptiness into form and back into emptiness.
Everything made sense until Tony said even war is unconditional love. He fails to realize war comes out of conditional thinking, out of individual identities. How he fails to see this is troubling. I guess even liberated minds can misunderstand.
Non esistono entità individuali. Esiste l’illusione di separazione. Ciò che apparentemente accade non ha qualità (e non accade davvero…. Se non nella storia del “sogno”)
Funny how everyone who says seeking doesn't lead to no-self realization always had to spend years seeking. Seeking is part of the process. Also, even though enlightenment doesn't happen to the person, it does affect the individual. It isn't true to say nothing happens to the person. Suffering (mental struggle) falls away. Waking up requires work. There is always the odd person who spontaneously wakes up (yes, I said person, but we have to use language to communicate) but most people have to spend years of self enquiry and meditation to create the condition that cause the effect of awakening. Just like we can't make ourselves fall asleep, we can create the conditions for awakening. It is not helpful to tell people that there is nothing that can be done to make enlightenment more likely. Only after awakening do people all of a sudden decide that nothing they did lead to it. The shift is so radical that it becomes obvious. However, to those who are still in the drama, there is work to be done.
You are missing the point. The recognition is that there is no time. There's only ever what is happening. So when there is no time there is no process or cause and effect. The time and cause and effect are only appearances. Also enlightenment doesn't affect the individual as it is the end of the individual. The point is that the individual has never existed it's completely illusory so how could the individual do something that attains enlightenment? Enlightenment is the falling away of the illusion. And it falls away by itself or it doesn't. All this being said meditation is good practice to calm your mind and live peacefully. There's lot's of science backing up the benefits of meditation.
@@Tazka I feel that "seeking" is the preamble to liberation. Sort of.. Consciousness would go through 4 main stages: 1. Not knowing of not knowing (usual human life) 2. Not Knowing of Knowing (seeking) 3. Knowing of Not Knowing (liberation) 4. Knowing of Knowing (Enlightenment).
@@DenisaNastase Ok, thanks for your input! I agree that knowing of not knowing is liberation. I have to gently disagree with some of that though. Seeking is inevitable if there is illusion of separation. The illusion of separation comes with the sense of lack, something missing. Seeking doesn't lead to liberation. Liberation is already and seeking is what veils this from being already complete as it is. Seeking is the illusion not a way out of it. What do you mean by Knowing of Knowing? And how is liberation different from enlightenment?
@@Tazka Hey, cool. Appreciating the response. Yep, seeking might not lead to liberation, as in a relative model of cause and effect. Yet it might preclude it, as of an implicit order. Similar to how.. the state of ice precludes the state of water, and the state of water precludes the state of gas. In some special cases ice might be directly transformed to gas, yet those might appear like rare cases. The development of our Self Awareness might also pass through some natural stages, and this Self Awareness might also be subjected to "natural laws", eg: some form of implicit order of development. Knowing of Knowing - this is my personal intuition. This would mean one fully gaining the recognition of "what is happening", rather than solely being aware that "this is happening". The difference here would be as that between seeing something and knowing what you are seeing.
@@DenisaNastase Cheers Denise! Yeah seems that i didn't quite catch what you meant by prelude. That indeed seems to be the case with seeking. Ah you mean some kind of deeper spontaneous wisdom with the knowing of knowing?
This can be a frustrating message if one is unprepared to hear it, hence, the middle way as the Buddha taught is NOT wrong; neither is Tony. Remember, there is no right or wrong way to live. Life just is. You just are, “I” just Am.
I’m a fan of Tony Parsons, but i’m skeptical that his period of seeking and meditation weren’t one factor leading to his awakening. It seems like most people who report awakenings previously meditated or saw themselves as seekers, and gave up seeking. Studies on rats show that rats who meditate are much more likely to awaken.
in a clip, tony said there were a few others around speaking from a similar perspective to his. can anyone list the specific people he will have been referring to? i have deduced that tim newman is probably one of them who are the others?
I loved this whole interview I just found it slightly confusing when at 54:32 Tony says ‘absolute love is speaking to both of us’ but on the other hand he is saying there are no individuals, is anyone able to explain what he means by this, thank you 😊
I do not know how he gets all this from where after something happened in the park but he is speaking from the human side we do not know what is in the other side he said when we pass away there’s nothing so when we all gone there’s nothing what about history is nothing there was nobody ever because we’re nothing I do not get it So he’s talking to who do nothing because everything is an allusion so he’s an allusion also thank you
Tony, when you talk about "the seeker" and "me being an illusion" you should really emphasize that you are in fact making up a story as well. You absolutely can't draw any conclusions from "Non-duality" (even this one). all words are defined "in the story" and the concept of "the story" is a story itself. "non-duality" is a concept that mystically points beyonds words to "someting" that cant known and even talked about really.
Agree. Yet, I heard him mentioning, in this video and others, that his message is "energetic". Meaning: it's more about the energy of the message, than the words/story through which that energy is delivered. Which energy can be felt, in my opinion.
I think the concept of the mediator, the middle man, the guru and the priest are very important for me right now on my journey. It's probably come to the fore with evangelical America spilling it's heart out over the departure of Trump. So I'm thinking of a preacher who says he will intercede with God for me on my behalf lololol that type of thing. It's funny isn't it someone interceding for you with the Spirit of the Universe to try and help you out. I kinda get the same impression from Tony too, that he is a middle man someone peddling a message, selling his wares ? He is absolutely not needed in the scenario of Liberation he describes going to see him won't made any difference ? Isn't there something akin to the emperor's new clothes with all of this ? Except for with what Tony has made out of it he could buy a few nice suits lol.
What Tony's saying isn't that different from Advaita teachers, is it? That is that we are the wholeness we seek and everything is part of the same energy and everything comes from the formless into form. When he says we are nobody, its actually what many Advaita teachers say ... there is no actual 'self' because what appears as the human form is actually 99% empty space. We are essentially all patterns, shapes and forms manifested from nothing and we all return to nothing eventually.
Tony's wonderful to listen to. The interviewer drives me crazy with his constant background "Mmmmm Mmmmmm Mmmmm" while Tony is talking. It is so annoying & he's so unaware of the disruption he causes. Yuck. This dude shouldn't be interviewing anyone except himself in a mirror.
Tony says that he experienced no consciousness/awareness but only 'wholeness'. How is it possible to experience wholeness without having an awareness with which to do so? I have been taught that consciousness is the source of matter. I have heard Tony imply that the brain is a prerequisite to having awareness. Am I correct in thinking that this is Tony's position?
Awareness is prior to the arising of the body. Awareness is what nisargadatta called IAM without identity... then personality appears as the identification with the object thought-body happens... but this guy tells there is no awareness for him..which does not make sense, because without awareness he could not communicate within the realm of iam-beings
All this choosing one thing in preference to another is illusory, a great cover-up. Separate individuals, as such, are powerless to make the slightest difference in a universe where every one of them is tightly controlled by the rest. Pretending otherwise, pretending that, as our sole selves, we exercise free will, is as absurd and dishonest as it is vainglorious - and stressful. Only the Source of all, under the sway of none, has free will; and only deeds which are seen to proceed from it, which are referred back to it, which are felt to be its own deeds - only these carry its marvellous smell, the smell of an originality and rightness which belongs solely to that Origin. To live the choiceless life that we have been describing is not fatalism. It is not giving up the struggle and accepting that one is a machine within a Machine. It is to identify with the Machine's Inventor, to take one's stand in Freedom itself. It is to be one's Source, to choose what flows from it, and to perceive it as very good. headless.org
Osho also claimed to have been nothing for 20 years or some such, wonder what he was before that? Sounds like an occurrence in time with a beginning which isn't what Tony is saying. Apparently back in the day "Osho" said to J. Krishnamurti, "I hold this in the palm of my hand", and to that J replied, "Can you hold the ocean in the palm of your hand or the sky?". Osho replied, "You are a very evil man".
By no one what does he mean? There is clearly a body here with thoughts and feelings attached to it - is that not what we mean when we say ‘someone’? I am clearly typing this message for example .... or is it more accurate to simply say typing is happening and no one is doing it?
by "no one" the suggestion is that the body, thoughts, feelings are not associated with a "person" - i.e. in your case you identify your body/thoughts/feelings as Matt Stocks...................in non-duality all this is "apparent' and not considered "existing" as a "thing"
Im not Tony so I can't speak for him but I imagine what he means is that there is a body/thoughts/perceptions but they aren't happening to a me that is seperate from those things. It's kind of similar to the duality in the phrase, "It is raining", what is "it" that is raining? There's just raining in actuality. So in that sense nobody is typing, typing is happening. You could say someone is typing which would only be a communication tool to identify this body typing as opposed to another but if you were to cut my skull open you wouldnt find a little me in here planning on what to type.
the interviewer's constant grunting is very annoying. it's like these little punches and punctuation marks as the speaker is speaking. it's very distracting.
It seems to me that there is something fundamentally flawed here with what Tony is sharing. He says that what is actually happening is UNKNOWABLE, but then goes on to make a fundamental (unprovable) definition when he says "there is nothing apparently arising as something" Am i missing something here? How can what is happening be unknowable, yet such definitive statements be made about this UNKOWABLE NO THING.
Osho Bagwan made fun of all, from his Rolls Royces, and this piece of miserable crap just copied the formula to a new extend, without paying taxes It is all about money People like to pay money for them only to be made fools of themselves
The definitive statements are being made about the illusion of an individual self. Words cannot grasp reality. Words can be functional and attempt to describe phenomena. Sit in a quiet spot and observe what is happening. It can be observed that sensations, sounds, thoughts and all things are coming then going. The final point comes when YOU who is observing realizes you come and go TOO!!! Simply noticed when YOU go to SLEEP, YOU disappear only to APPEAR afterwards. You naturally experience coming and going all the time. We have overlooked our reality. Characters arise from WHAT WE REALLY ARE, NATURALLY. These characters are amazingly dynamic and can have amazing experiences but they are by design limited. headless.org gets you to the razor edge of this message then it's all internal investigation from there.
Like all things there are various schools of Buddhism that obsure "no self". The whole Buddha story culminates in him being under a tree, having exhausted self will power, no self.
Wonderful guy but....Nihilism. Thank god for other teachers, he just does everything is "nothing " . There are REAL WAYS to wake up to reality, that is not afraid to speak within our human experience. Not just advaita speak...Nihilism is a very subtle form of deviation from full enlightenment, taking a partial aspect of no mind and clinging to the IDEA OR CONCEPT OF NOTHINGNESS. .look at Ramana,Papaji, nisargadatta, padmasambhava, mahamudra, laksmanjoo, hiuneng, huangpo, naropa, tilopa, etc etc
I have to agree. This might be the truth just not the whole truth. There is obviously an individual talking and being there in this interview. I don't believe the individual conciousness ever dissolves only becomes greater and one with all.
@@jimji2774 Nonduality is pointing away from all conceptualization. Natural experience precedes and engulfs all symbols. Truth is a symbol and a concept. Direct experience before words.
@@chrisbusby4395 no .i love advaita and eastern teaching .but I been "around the block" I know the difference. And even this stuff CAN BE very useful but its ....well anyway ..big subject..
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is tony the high priest of Nihilism ? (defintion of nihilism: "the rejection of all religious and moral principles and the belief that life is meaningless")
so in my life or illusion i have no free will and choice at all? lol.... iam as god always have my own free will and choice at all times inside the illusion called life. he is laughing at people how stupid they are to pay money for this nonsense...
The character, personality, people are expressions of that which can best be pointed to as DEEP SLEEP. Not the thought of deep sleep the actual experience. That deep sleep is PRESENCE WITHOUT PHENOMENA. Enjoy the WONDER!
