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Do you remember The Commodore PC20-III that arrived covered in poop! That was a year ago! Today we can finally bring it back to life.
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@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois 22 дня назад
Neil doesn't let a completely ruined motherboard stop him. He just makes a new one. 😁 Listen to that Model F click. Absolutely love it.
@slckb0y65
@slckb0y65 22 дня назад
9mhz turbo speed ... mere mortals were never meant to wield such almighty power ...
@davidrenton
@davidrenton 22 дня назад
you can overclock it to 9.3mhz, but beware of the heat, it runs at a hot 30C :)
@little_fluffy_clouds
@little_fluffy_clouds 22 дня назад
I dreamt of such breakneck speeds when I only had a lowly ZX Spectrum back in the ‘80s
@Retrogameplayer8000
@Retrogameplayer8000 22 дня назад
Sexy looking motherboard
@Retrogameplayer8000
@Retrogameplayer8000 22 дня назад
I'm willing to fund a fully restored video toaster. Your the only one who can help me relive those early days when technology took over master control. I felt like a god once people saw the capabilities I could create....God bless newtek, and RMC....YES IM GOING EASY ON THE COMMENTS. hope your well Neil, looking good
@IkarusKommt
@IkarusKommt 22 дня назад
It didn't have any bus frequency dividers, and many ISA cards could not handle 9MHz operation.
@threepotgtti
@threepotgtti 22 дня назад
The amount of time that went into drawing out that board is immense, a labour of love right there. And it worked first time! This was a mighty feat to bring this back from the dead. Maybe it should be next to an Amstrad 1512 as that was the PC that really gave x86 to the common man here in the UK.
@weepingscorpion8739
@weepingscorpion8739 22 дня назад
Having it next to a 1512 would be interesting as both computers have special graphics modes which however were sadly rarely or never supported. But the games by The 8-Bit Guy support both the PC-10's Plantronics compatible graphics and the special 1512 graphics. So that would be a nice comparison to see at least..
@paul_boddie
@paul_boddie 21 день назад
Get an Atari PC and complete the set!
@p_mouse8676
@p_mouse8676 22 дня назад
I personally would keep it as is. I think it completely suits the feel and vibe around the machine. As already clearly shown by the amount of people using it. Less is sometimes more. Plus it puts the focus a bit more on the team effort that went into this.👍👍
@thepenultimateninja5797
@thepenultimateninja5797 22 дня назад
Avoid brake fluid for sticker residue; it etches ABS plastic, and can also cause embrittlement. No idea why people would recommend it for something as simple as sticker removal. Just to add to the pile of recommendations, my favorite is charcoal lighter fluid. It's basically just mineral spirits, but barbecue lighter fluid is a readily available and cheap source of it. I like it because it works quickly, doesn't harm plastics, and doesn't leave any residue of its own. It (or something similar like kerosene) is likely the component of WD40 that is actually doing the work of removing the residue. Honestly, there's nothing wrong with sticking with WD40. The spray can makes it easy to apply, and it's likely comparable in performance to the other products anyway.
@Nicolasherdwick
@Nicolasherdwick 22 дня назад
People must have suggested brake CLEANER, certainly not brake fluid!
@thepenultimateninja5797
@thepenultimateninja5797 22 дня назад
@@Nicolasherdwick I think brake cleaner would attack plastics too though, right? It seems the exact solvent mixture varies, but it looks like a lot of them contain acetone and methyl acetate, both of which dissolve ABS plastic.
@Nicolasherdwick
@Nicolasherdwick 22 дня назад
@@thepenultimateninja5797 I've never used it on bare plastic myself, so thanks for the warning!
@patx35
@patx35 16 дней назад
​@@Nicolasherdwickbrake cleaner absorbs the oils in plastic. Use an actual electronics cleaner spray. It should be on the same aisle as brake cleaners.
@Ragnar8504
@Ragnar8504 16 дней назад
With most types of sticker residue any kind of oil will work just fine. In a pinch you can even raid the kitchen. At work I use the bottle of sewing machine oil we keep around. We do have a special adhesive remover that claims to be safe on plastics but in my experience it tends to dull formerly glossy surfaces so I'm not 100% convinced. It's also incredibly smelly and probably not particularly healthy, even though there aren't any warnings on the bottle (not sure how that's even possible in 2024 in the EU).
@NeilCarr
@NeilCarr 22 дня назад
the lamp needs a flickering led
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 22 дня назад
LEDs ordered! Great idea
@matthewday7565
@matthewday7565 22 дня назад
@@RMCRetro Did BigClive review a flame LED module at some point
@NeilCarr
@NeilCarr 22 дня назад
@@RMCRetro ...Then i look forward to seeing your mine type corner.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 16 дней назад
I think you mean: > Order flickering LED LEDs ordered! Great idea > Put flickering LED in lamp You place a flickering LED in the hurricane lamp. It casts a convincing flame-like shadow on the nearby wall.
@Morinaka25
@Morinaka25 22 дня назад
17:30 To be annoyingly pedantic, both the Model F and M use buckling springs, but the difference is that the hammer hits a capacitive PCB on the F vs. a membrane on the M. While you could technically call the Model M a membrane keyboard, in common use the term membrane now almost always refers to rubber dome membrane keyboards, and is used an an antonym for mechanical.
@Darxide23
@Darxide23 22 дня назад
I don't think it's pedantic. The Model M is known as a mechanical keyboard by virtually everyone.
@philrod1
@philrod1 21 день назад
Thank you! I have two Model Ms, and I will fight anyone who dares slight them. They are majestic keyboards and definitely buckling spring.
@jtc1947
@jtc1947 21 день назад
@@philrod1 I loved the old IBM KEYBOARDS. Keyboards of today are junk with their numeric keypads.
@wiresmith2398
@wiresmith2398 20 дней назад
You have failed to be annoying, sorry. I thought it was a delicious bit of information - and I've got a Unicomp PC122 on my desk.
@FintanMoloney
@FintanMoloney 22 дня назад
Incredible the amount of work that went into this. Seriously talented people involved !
@MatSpeedle
@MatSpeedle 22 дня назад
Cracking job Neil. Another reminder of how great this retro community we're part of is. Nothing stops us restoring. The painstaking work on the PCB alone is testament to our collective resolve to save these treasures and keep them going. And thank you Holly for saving that keyboard from the bin, that would have been a real shame had it gone to the crusher.
@ctrlaltrees
@ctrlaltrees 22 дня назад
So glad the keyboard arrived just in the nick of time! I do love the Model F but that Commodore keyboard looks the absolute business hooked up to this machine 😁
@MrLurchsThings
@MrLurchsThings 22 дня назад
I was just about to comment, but I thought you had a second 5150/5160?
@Kumimono
@Kumimono 21 день назад
A, Commodore Business Machine? I hope that catches on.
@jtc1947
@jtc1947 21 день назад
Did I miss something? Thought that the COMMODORE keyboard was still in the wind? Was there a follow-up? Pls advise and give link???
@MrLurchsThings
@MrLurchsThings 19 дней назад
@@jtc1947 did you watch the whole video….?
@jtc1947
@jtc1947 19 дней назад
@@MrLurchsThings Thought that I did but maybe there was something at the very end that I missed. Will have to go back and cee how close the C keyboard resembles IBM??
@tony359
@tony359 12 дней назад
What a massive project! I can barely design a 2x2cm PCB with 4 traces, I can only imagine the efforts and skills behind such a restoration. The machine looks so incredible, particularly considering how it was found - I'd put up some pictures of the "before" on the wall so visitors can appreciate the restoration even more! And maybe the old, corroded motherboard? And yes, WD40 is perfectly fine for sticker removal! One tip - which you might know already - soak the label and give it time. Most of the labels would completely dissolve and come off with no need for scrubbing within, say, 30 minutes. Plastic labels ones are tough as the WD40 cannot reach the glue. Thanks for the video!
@1lapmagic
@1lapmagic 21 день назад
This is the best channel I've found in a long time. I'm so tired of low-rent, mass produced, meaningless "slop" content on the internet. This makes me feel like I could learn to take my hobby further with just a little dedication.
@RichRap3D
@RichRap3D 22 дня назад
Absolutely wonderful work, the Commodore keyboard looks perfect and it's now the best text adventuring station in the Cave / UK / Entire World! Well done everyone.
@WayneBarroncffcs
@WayneBarroncffcs 13 дней назад
19:00 watching as time ticks by. By watching the shadow move across the keys and the table. Very cool.
@rolfvandervlist
@rolfvandervlist 22 дня назад
The love for this project splashes of the screen. So many kudos to you for this gem!❤
@PXAbstraction
@PXAbstraction 22 дня назад
This is some next level trash to treasuring! I never even considered the possibility of something like this. Well done!
@burnrubber7547
@burnrubber7547 22 дня назад
That is incredible work restoring that machine. Props to Neil and the team, and pcb way. Having worked in the industry back in the day. I know what a task that is to strip a board down, and remapping all the traces etc is complex and easy to mess up. Awesome, well done all involved.
@paulboardman01
@paulboardman01 22 дня назад
loves these trash to treasure
@TechMadeEasyUK
@TechMadeEasyUK 22 дня назад
I waited an entire year for this and it didn’t disappoint. What a fantastic project!
@elishariedlinger559
@elishariedlinger559 22 дня назад
I like all your trash to treasure videos. But this one stands out as one of the best. I love that you replicated the motherboard precisely.
@ReinMixTape
@ReinMixTape 22 дня назад
I'm super impressed by the effort you all went to preserve that computer. Ya it's awesome to see an old m/b fixed, but seeing someone make modern like for like replacement is awesome. It will help out other people when their old m/b starts to fail/etc.
@shakeyourbunny
@shakeyourbunny 22 дня назад
The Commodore PC 20-III came with a 102 keys keyboard, not the 83 one. They were shipped with the PC-10 series. This PC was a very trustworthy computer, was my first PC and loved it to death.
@nemesis2264
@nemesis2264 22 дня назад
It should be a Commodore KPQ-E99YC. US-ANSI version part number 312702-02, ISO version part number 312473-XX.
@Oguz286
@Oguz286 21 день назад
I still have my PC 30-III that my dad bought for me when I was 3 years old and it's still going strong. Love it :D
@herpderp3131
@herpderp3131 13 дней назад
This is some crazy high-end nerd stuff. I never imagined you could even build something like this by hand. Respect
@aeiouxs
@aeiouxs 21 день назад
That Commodore keyboard has so many familiarities to the Amigas' keyboards - the key fonts, the caps lock light on the num lock key - so you've got to love it Neil! I know the Amiga keyboards ain't nothing on a good IBM, but still! Wow, incredible effort by everyone involved!
@shodan2958
@shodan2958 22 дня назад
Lovely restoration, I think you should keep the PC as is and use another machine for upgrades. Its the closest thing (to my knowledge at least) that the cave has to an original IBM PC and its capabilities so to be able to showcase what the early days of what IBM PC and compatibles could do in terms of games is a fantastic thing. I'm sure some less aware of those early days and who are modern PC game players will be able to appreciate just how far its come.
@anakondase
@anakondase 22 дня назад
Oh, so many of those, earlier versions then, I assembled during my internship at Commodore Scandinavia. They must have sold quite a few of them but strangely enough I've never seen one in the wild since.
@Ragnar8504
@Ragnar8504 16 дней назад
I had a PC10-III for a while, found it on the street somewhere, with the original keyboard. It had no hard drive but two DD floppy drives. If I remember correctly I eventually gave it to a collector because XTs without hard drives didn't float my boat and I was running out of space. The fun part about old, abandoned hardware for me was always digging through someone else's hard drive, checking all the exciting software they'd installed. So no hard drive pretty much equalled no fun.
@paulomanuelsousa
@paulomanuelsousa 19 дней назад
I must say, i follow your channel a lot but i don't coment much but i have to say, what a lovely piece of hardware history and the love you and all your friends put on this restorations, it blews my mind... Well done... you are all great people that spend your free time to a passion that made me be an it professional. I just love the era back then, it was so much more exciting than this days... at least for me it was :D... The kids nowadays will never experience the thrills we had back in the days... Well done and keep doing this because what you do and the quality is top notch...
@phillupson8561
@phillupson8561 22 дня назад
Such great custodians of history, you're all doing super work!
@simmo1024
@simmo1024 22 дня назад
Recreating that PCB is some undertaking. Kudos.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 16 дней назад
I want to see a lot more of this. Schematics and PCB design files for all the classics. :-) I've gotten more willing to replace PCBs that have suffered damage, or to just RE simple things like ISA cards and PSUs. I would imagine lots of others have, too. I like the idea of this becoming a thing, in order to preserve and recreate lots of retro gear. Just need a good repo somewhere to catalog it.
@seanys
@seanys 22 дня назад
@6:30 “Who would that even be these days?” Nobody knows! 😂😂
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 22 дня назад
The brand was acquired by Luigi Simonetti, so Commodore is now headquartered in the north of Italy.
@musiqtee
@musiqtee 21 день назад
Agree with many here; Keep the PC-20 as it is, with all the effort put into replicating the board, it already has a history now… 😊
@althejazzman
@althejazzman 19 дней назад
Incredible that you have the people with the skills available to remake a motherboard. I had thought that working units would just dwindle until there's hardly any left.
@RetroMatt67
@RetroMatt67 20 дней назад
I say leave it as it is Neil. It has a certain charm the visitors are obviously loving. Love to see the amount of effort that goes it to restoring these machines. Great content as always!
@mattscomp
@mattscomp 17 дней назад
Unbelievable restoration. I agree with those that say keep this machine as it is now. Back in those days it's not like this system would have gotten an upgrade. It would have been more likely that the owner would've moved onto a newer PC and probably sold or gifted this to a family member. At least that was my path. Amstrad XT then got a clone 286 with SVGA. :-) I also remember checking out Commodore PC's at Kmart. I never knew anyone that owned one.
@zero0ryn
@zero0ryn 19 дней назад
It was lovely to see this in person over the last 2 days at the cave.
@bufordmaddogtannen
@bufordmaddogtannen 22 дня назад
Since you are wondering, Commodore these days is in Italy, since the brand was acquired by an Italian entrepreneur.
@jaseman
@jaseman 19 дней назад
This PC would have been launched after the Amiga 500, but clearly not designed to be a games machine. That's why I think it is important to get a word processor, spreadsheet and database package on there - something that would be suitable for that machine at that time. Maybe some desktop publishing software as well to show off graphical capabilities.
@TastyBusiness
@TastyBusiness 15 дней назад
As a fan of the Commodore PC line, this is a great recreation. I've got a similar looking PC40-III, and finding a matching Commodore VGA monitor took a few years, but you've already got the full kit for it -- fantastic!
@chrisdixon5241
@chrisdixon5241 20 дней назад
That is some serious dedication, remaking the PCB of the machine! Great work, hats off to everyone involved!
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 16 дней назад
I would be in favour of a project to create open-source replicas of old PC hardware. Chip-for-chip, trace by trace. I might even download the results and put them together.
@DarkestVampire92
@DarkestVampire92 22 дня назад
Recently i've been thinking about building my own Amiga 2000 from scratch, but after seeing how much the commonly available parts would cost, how much the scarce chips cost (if you can even find them at all!) and how rare even the empty cases are... i quickly decided to stick to emulation until those FPGA chips finally replace Fat Angus, Gary, Denise, etc.
@Vanders456
@Vanders456 22 дня назад
The good news is that for an A2000 you can use a chipset from an A500, which are much more common. A replacement exists for the one A2000 specific custom chip ("Bluster")
@brrebrresen1367
@brrebrresen1367 22 дня назад
you could go for the E-ATX version of the new boards. would save you some money being able to use ATX case and PSU. but you should be able to solder SMD's before going that route... because the EATX variant have loads of it.
@DarkestVampire92
@DarkestVampire92 22 дня назад
@@brrebrresen1367 Oh its not the PSU and case thats the issue, its those custom chips nobody makes. Everything else you can find modern equivalents for but the custom chips Commodore made have a dwindling supply...
@brrebrresen1367
@brrebrresen1367 22 дня назад
need a donor A500 and you get most chips except the Buster chip. now there is modern replacements for the Buster chip problem is that they are mostly "make it yourself" with just a bare PCB. i managed to score an original A2500 from Germany for "reasonable" price (around 350€ with international shipping and VAT) needed a new fan in the PSU and a adapter for using PS2 keyboard and was working. was planing to build an A2000 EATX but with an original the PCB is just being on the shelf until i find time and a A500 not worth saving. for my part is the price for the stuff that you can add to an A2000 that you can not to an A500 that makes it damn expensive. like a Picasso II board and internal scan-doubler. even the reproductions are over 200€ a piece.... and then add a accelerator and you have dumped 800-1000€ just in upgrades, and a Vampire would smoke all of it.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 16 дней назад
As more of these replacement boards get designed, changes could be made for drop-in FPGA replacements, with the goal being 90% authentic, but augmented with modern VLSI to make them sustainable.
@danleedev
@danleedev 22 дня назад
Change nothing. That machine, right there, doing that thing. It's not even a hair short of perfect.
@simonread4263
@simonread4263 19 дней назад
An amazing transformation, looking forward to seeing it when the family and I visit next weekend 🙂
@imqqmi
@imqqmi 22 дня назад
Never cared for PC until I could afford a P75 system to upgrade to from A1200 and even then I never developed a taste for DOS, DOS games though I did play a few etc. I hated the PC experience with a passion until W2K or XP arrived. But man what an amount of effort went into recreating the mainboard PCB! And the result is stunning! I've done the ReAmiga 1200 a few months back, which also was quite an undertaking and I also design PCBs myself though not quite as big so I can appreciate what's involved. I'd keep it as stock as possible, and put upgrades into a second or bit more modern machine like you said, perhaps a 286.
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber 22 дня назад
9:17 I like Goo Gone as well but it's not really a thing sold here in Taipei. I brought mine from overseas. My other sticker residue cleaner is WD 40 Specialist contact cleaner as it seems to be safe on most materials and it does a really good job.
@SobieRobie
@SobieRobie 22 дня назад
Fantastic work and great idea for the display!
@ordinosaurs
@ordinosaurs 22 дня назад
Spent hours on Alley Cat. Brilliant game, very unusual ; doesn't use any operating system, and if I remember well (I very well may not), it was used or even commissioned by IBM to demo the PC before there was any OS available for it.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 21 день назад
I had no idea that was a selfboooter! I have only ever seen it as a DOS game. But it was also the only good original/XT CGA game that I remember. Do you have other recommendations?
@dontthroworanges
@dontthroworanges 21 день назад
Holy cow! So much work went into this restoration. Great job!
@925cerberus
@925cerberus 18 дней назад
Brilliant work, well done to everyone involved ❤
@richardbaker974
@richardbaker974 22 дня назад
Great job. I'm looking forward to seeing it at The Cave.
@Metadas
@Metadas 22 дня назад
All I can say is WOW! This Rebuild / Restoration is amazing. Keep up the great work and hopefully I can visit the Cave again soon. First time was a bit overhelming.
@Dave01Rhodes
@Dave01Rhodes 21 день назад
I love the idea of having that PC with that beautiful monitor dedicated to text adventures.
@shaunboyce
@shaunboyce 21 день назад
Such an impressive effort. Well done!!
@Midcon77
@Midcon77 14 дней назад
Neil - visiting The Cave is official a bucklet list item! I *will* make it happen LOL So cool how this all played out! As for the future - any chance of making another functioning board and upgraiding it to run, say, the original Civilization? Some of the very early Microprose flight simulators? That might be interesting!
@LucaDigioia83
@LucaDigioia83 22 дня назад
amazing work all around! kudos to yall
@canthearu4876
@canthearu4876 21 день назад
What an amazing restoration job. Can't fault anything, and the final result is just perfect.
@bommel88
@bommel88 22 дня назад
Incredible work, thanks for sharing!
@Pedro_Pimenta
@Pedro_Pimenta 21 день назад
Amazing work, you're really setting the bar high in regards to preservation and restoration work.
@Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P
@Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P 20 дней назад
I'm extremely impressed with all the work you all did to get the Commodore PC20-III running, and what a great video to
@Pixelhorizon
@Pixelhorizon 19 дней назад
Love this :). Everything was done with such good taste ❤
@Fuartianer
@Fuartianer 22 дня назад
Awesome work! I really enjoyed watching this episode.
@samshort365
@samshort365 14 дней назад
Definitely keep this setup as is. It feels inviting, period correct and provides a nostalgic trip down memory lane.
@stianhus
@stianhus 22 дня назад
simply amazing! whole new level of trash to treasure and documenting the retro the past! great work!
@Hellwyck
@Hellwyck 22 дня назад
Another superb video and shows the love you have for classic systems.
@kikoc71
@kikoc71 22 дня назад
What an incredible episode. It brought so many memories back! I remember when I moved from a C64 to my first PC. We were browsing all magazines, catalogs, etc. Also visiting the colleagues houses to see what they had. One of them had this very same piece of hardware... Honestly, great channel with a great content.
@RichardTroupe
@RichardTroupe 22 дня назад
A wonderful video and restoration... And that monitor's phosphor glow is beautiful!
@Jaspa42
@Jaspa42 22 дня назад
A true labour of love. Bravo Team.
@AndrewTubbiolo
@AndrewTubbiolo 22 дня назад
Wow, that a project! Excellent work!
@airfixer9461
@airfixer9461 22 дня назад
Keep the machine as it is Neil, it's fab.... 🙂
@MarkyShaw
@MarkyShaw 16 дней назад
Reading my mind on the cup of coffee! What an inviting setup. Absolutely perfect. Monochrome was an awesome choice. Beautiful!!
@johnpickett5561
@johnpickett5561 21 день назад
Don’t change anything on it, it’s perfect as it is, especially with all the work that went into recreating the motherboard!
@VW_Fan
@VW_Fan 18 дней назад
super impressed with how that board was made again! impressive!
@jawshogga
@jawshogga 22 дня назад
Fascinating restoration. I look forward to seeing it on Saturday.
@dazsly
@dazsly 17 дней назад
Awesome job to all involved lots of work but worth it!
@nicholas4839
@nicholas4839 18 дней назад
Awesome that you made the files available for free awesome work
@mattias969
@mattias969 22 дня назад
My god what a job! I am impressed!
@techboogaloo
@techboogaloo 21 день назад
Absolutely incredible work as always!
@mysticgreg
@mysticgreg 21 день назад
Can I just say that aside from the awesome preservation and restoration work you're doing, the production values in these videos is just going from strength to strength? The shots where (I assume) the system is under the skylight as the sun moves across the sky look fantastic. It's obvious that a lot of thought and effort is being put in to all this! You've come a long way from filming A500's for sale in your spare room!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 21 день назад
Thanks! Very much appreciated
@grantm902
@grantm902 22 дня назад
"Just!" That's a monumental undertaking!
@jamesdecross1035
@jamesdecross1035 22 дня назад
My opinion on your question: get that IBM PC for your 286 experience, if you can find one!
@TheGunnarRoxen
@TheGunnarRoxen 19 дней назад
Amazing achievement by the whole team. Well done!
@job4106
@job4106 22 дня назад
Great work, the time and effort put into this restoration was epic😮
@simonstapletondotcom
@simonstapletondotcom 22 дня назад
Awesome vid Neil. Hats off to the team. Thanks so much!
@RMCRetro
@RMCRetro 22 дня назад
Thanks Simon, no Fat Toni’s near this one please
@simonstapletondotcom
@simonstapletondotcom 22 дня назад
@@RMCRetro Toni is upset about that
@paulmiller591
@paulmiller591 18 дней назад
Wow, the full rebuild for the motherboard is impressive!
@johnarthur4555
@johnarthur4555 21 день назад
Brilliant work Neil and the team, thanks for rescuing classic computers, so many more can enjoy them in the future.
@TheInfiniteMiseryJumper
@TheInfiniteMiseryJumper 22 дня назад
Well done on saving that Model F Holly, came up a treat!
@winstonsmith478
@winstonsmith478 22 дня назад
My first x86 PC, the Commodore PC20-III, which I bought as an open box special in mint condition with its Commodore color monitor for a mere $300 at the RAF Lakenheath BX (base exchange) while stationed at nearby RAF Mildenhall. I already owned and used concurrently my 1040STf with associated color monitor. I went back to the states with it and gave my 1040STf system (with 115V step-down transformer) to my next door neighbor (mainly for their kids) in beautiful Bury St. Edmunds.
@retro_reflections
@retro_reflections 21 день назад
Stunning work, and a fantastic restoration. And definitely leave it as is, it's absolutely perfect as an Infocom station!
@paulj1939
@paulj1939 17 дней назад
I played with this at the weekend and really I loved just playing out as an old text adventures old dos PC. So I'd leave it un-upgraded for now. There's plenty in the cave already that can get me a newer experience so it's nice to play on things that are as close to they were originally.
@darthv72
@darthv72 22 дня назад
Holy crap Neil... this is absolutely fantastic work.
@nazteeb
@nazteeb 19 дней назад
That motherboard is gorgeous! Well done all.
@borislab8153
@borislab8153 21 день назад
The 'JUST' in the title... it's a crazy good project. Thanks for the constantly inspiring videos 🤩
@AnimeJSaysBah
@AnimeJSaysBah 21 день назад
I had this particular Commodore computer back in the day! It's nostalgic and nice to see one running again.
@AndreasKoepkeAU
@AndreasKoepkeAU 22 дня назад
Wow, you and the team went above and beyond to bring this back to life. These machines were certainly an interesting stage of the Commodore history. We had a 286 12Mhz variant of Commodore PC when I was younger and it still used an Amiga mouse too.
@Jimfowler82
@Jimfowler82 19 дней назад
A great Sunday morning watch in rainy Sussex. Thank you
@infi84
@infi84 22 дня назад
This is great, I do have a Commodore PC 10-III with a green phosphor monochrome Commore Monitor and the original Keyboard, and while it did still work last time the board is indeed suffering from a lot of rot under the solder mask (the battery has long been removed) ... sooner or later it might give up the ghost, so it's reassuring to know I could revive it with a new board. Thanks to all involved!
@retro-futuristicengineer
@retro-futuristicengineer 22 дня назад
Congratiulations for bringing this system back to life. Great job. By the way, don't reduce the PC20 to 4 Color CGA. Actually, the Paradise chip should support Plantronics mode with 320x200 in 16 colors. Okay, Plantronics is quite uncommon but at least Planet X3 and drivers for Sierra SCI Generation 1 support it. The PC20-III should be a great machine for the ultimate Turbo-XT with dropping a V20 in it instead of the 8088. Considering the turbo/double speed, this should be the fastest you can get out of the XT architecture. The Commodore BIOS runs quite well with the V20, I didn't see any significant improvements with the c't V20 BIOS. My PC20-II (unfortunately limited to 4.77MHz) has also a Tandy-compatible soundcard in it and I hacked the BIOS to mute the Tandy sound generator before booting. I did some videos on my channel on how this looks and feels with a Plantronics compatible card (in the PC20-II, it's an ATI, but the Paradise in the -III, to my knowledge, does the job, too) and how I hacked the BIOS to mute the sound chip. But while I think, a V20 would be a great add-on, the Tandy soundcard is something like a "everyone would have bought this if it existet back then" nerd thing, but nothing original, so a question of taste.
@eekee6034
@eekee6034 22 дня назад
I'd love to see the Plantronics mode, too.
@rocketsurgeon1349
@rocketsurgeon1349 21 день назад
Holy Moly, that's a lot of work!
@AtariLegend
@AtariLegend 17 дней назад
Beautiful restoration ❤
@FU2Max
@FU2Max 22 дня назад
Have to say, what an amazing amount of work when into this. Great work by PCBWay. Btw, keep it as it is. I would like to see a 386 IBM. It started my journey into PC gaming.
@ukcbtv
@ukcbtv 22 дня назад
An amazing effort and the sound of that keyboard was enough to turn a bad day into a good one!
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