In the end all cars break so the honda and hyundai will be cheaper to fix and easier to work on.. That vw is a pricey on parts and way harder to work on..
Lucien L actually you are wrong...DSG is harder to launch than manual👌🏻 DSG on GTI is faster if you want to get better 0-60! But it will be slower in real race...There is no launch control. It’s funny...But civic on CVT can easily beat Elantra sport on DSG=)
@@MykolaNechyporuk How can it make you faster 0-60 but slower in a real race? I own a mk7 with dsg... it does have launch control. My last GTI was a manual. The DSG is definitely faster, but slightly less fun.
my gt sport has kept up with infiniti g35, audi a6 and lexus 350. Also with m3 and 1st gen panamera up to 90 mph then they start creeping past. I use synthetic oil and 91 gas maybe it makes the difference.
Elantra Sport and Elantra GT all the way. I have a 2017 ES sedan with the 7-speed dual clutch and it is an amazing car. I am coming up on 1 year of ownership and a little over 25k miles and it has been nothing but a gem to own and to drive. The only thing out of normal maintenance that I did was upgrading the tires to PilotSports (since the factory Hankook Ventus S1 Noble 2s are not the greatest and wore out quickly) and that made a massive positive effect to the already great handling. The car has a phenomenal and super stiff chassis, sounds amazing from the factory and best of all, is a sleeper. It's fun going through Angeles Crest Highway and the canyons in the Malibu Hills and keeping up with and overtaking other drivers in a car that people would not bat an eye at typically ("It's just a Hyundai"). For $18,998 (what I got mine for) you can not go wrong with a car that looks sharp and handsome, has good performance and a 5y/60k bumper to bumper warranty and a 10y/100k powertrain warranty. These Elantras are the underdogs of the competition.
Didnt know about this car until last week, really impressed from what I've seen of it so far. My 2016 civic been in the shop 3 weeks tomorrow. Seriously thinking about dumping it on elantra sport... if they ever fix the thing!!
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reliable 1.5t with real world 35 mpg combined and almost fully loaded under 24k. I'm sold on the civic. I also dig the bold styling (eh it's subjective anyway)
The fact of the matter is, WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S RELIABLE OR NOT. The platform is simply too new to be judged, let alone make baseless comments on it blowing up. For my thoughts, I'm more on the "too early to call but I definitely don't believe in all turbo cars will fail". Compared to the turbo motors of the 80's A LOT of things changed. -cooling is dramatically improved, which was the main issue of the old school turbo's getting too hot. Modern turbo's are oil and water cooled, Direct injection is used to lower the intake charge temp, The exhaust manifold has water jackets to extract more heat, and we have VTC to pull timing if the cooling system becomes heat soaked. -oil has also dramatically improved. Almost all turbo motors have synthetic or synthetic blends in them, not to mention the oil itself has gotten better at resisting decomposition from heat. - better knock sensors allows the opportunity to pull timing in order to save the engine.
"it just came out" and your saying it will immediately blow up. Exactly what part of the 1.5t is PROVEN unreliable. What makes that 1.6T from Hyndai or the 2.0T from VW any better. They all use variable timing, all use Di, all use intercooling. In addition the Honda Motor and the VW motor use a headifold, to decrease the temp of the exhaust gases. I don't see how honda's in particular is more unreliable than the others.
this 1.5T has been out for 2 years now. According to car journal websites (j.d power) and honda forums this power-train has above average reliability ratings. This generation of civics did suffer from electronic issues but since we are discussing power-train, it's as good as anything else in this class. Sure, on the long run no turbo is going to outlast a N/A but for whats it worth I can live with that!
Why do they want the K24 back? People who want torque in their engine would probably prefer the 1.5T in the current gen. People who want a screaming high redline and an audible VTEC crossover, would probably take the K20 From the 8th gen better. when I first heard about the news the old si had a k24, I felt more of a compromise engine. The K20 had great power but you had to work way too hard to get it out. So they built a larger displacement engine with a 1000rpm lower redline to give people torque and access the power easier. ie the K24 was the definitive example that People didn't want super high-strung engines. if people REALLY wanted more redline the K24 wouldn't exist, we would be getting more engines closer to the F20C engines.
Engine torque is not very useful in a drag race, unless you’re driving an electric car. You want high power to weight. The GTI is the fastest because it has the most horse power and its power to weight is just as good as the Honda’s. If the Honda had the same horse power as the GTI, it would be faster, because it’s lighter, and therefor, would have a better power to weight ratio. If all things were equal, except the torque, the cars would literally be as fast as each other. There are a lot of videos that explain torque vs horsepower in cars, and it’s more complicated than I care to explain here.
Segundo angulo still it makes less HP than every other 2.0 Turbo on the market today. Even the Accord 2.0 makes 250+ hp with 275 torque. I think they are keeping the GTI hp down so it doesn’t get too close to the type Golf R and cut into it’s sales.
How about mashup with Civic Si, Elantra, GTI, Toyota 86, and Focus ST for us dads who have to transport kids, but are sick of driving boring cars..... Take them to the track and do some real world daddy duty with the cars to see how they fair.... please? Pretty please?
Jonny SRT I would love to so come at me bro I'm a ricer alright yup just because I'd rather take a Civic over Elantra I grew up with Honda dude get on my level. And at least I'm not coming after everybody who says they want an si over Elantra wtf is that about friend?
What does a car channel has to do with that silly game app. We're starting to promote stuff over here? I wonder if that would lead to promoting cars if you got paid and started being bias....
I own a 2020 GT N Line manual and I’ve beaten an si and every gti...maybe it is the driver or decades of Honda engendering and German technology failing its customers
the only thing that SI has going going for it is the adaptive suspension. Not going to lie, thats pretty sick, but it doesn't make up for the fact that everything else about it is a complete joke. its already pushing 23lbs of boost, that engine will snap if you try to up the HP.
2 Tone Danger T I’m sorry but that’s a lie. The Elantra is the least powerful car I don’t know if you can win against an SI but a GTI no way . The GTI weighs around the same, has a way better dual clutch , 17 to 27 more horsepower, and 63 more torque. There is no way man . Upload a video
El proteston cubano es una yegua : and I have a manual lol, there is turbo lag from the GTI and the SI is a 1.5 with Honda’s decades of engineering to make it feel better but not perform great, without a tune these are just overpriced badges
2 Tone Danger T you just couldn’t afford the GTI and you bought the Korean knockoff. Post a video or shut up . Why the need lie is a great car but it will never be an SI much less a GTI
Nathan ought to spend some more time at the track. It wouldn't be a waste of time to get trained by professional race car drivers when you review cars for a living. Roman's launching technique skill difference makes it hard for us to appreciate the difference between the two cars.
The i30N would’ve been the obvious comparison car from Hyundai, but I guess its no use testing and comparing a car that would not be available in your country. The N would’ve kicked serious ass.
I like the hyundai because when they run 2500.00 dealer incentive + other agressive dealer incentives, special financing etc it will be WAYYYYY less expensive then the HONDA or VW. The hatch is way more practical and not so boy racer looking. Where the Hyundai loses for sure is MPGs. With the price difference it will take alot of miles for the MPGs to payoff. Does the Honda have a limited slip? I know the hyundai doesnt. But drag racing these cars is silly anyway, its just supposed to be a practical car that is still fun to bang gears in and toss around a bit for a laugh. Ive driven ghe Elantra sport with the turbo and MT and it feels kinda quick, quick enough that it is amusing and not underpowered for merging and passing.
It kinda depends. First of all if you incentive's are region dependent, and not always amazing. They definitely didn't give me that good of a deal where I live (Elantra's outsell corollas here). If you do live in an area with good deals, It's not the MPG that will balance the price. it's the depreciation when its time for the next car. In order to get your worth, you really have to drive it until the wheels fall off, otherwise the money lost in trade-in (or private sell) will typically equal the price of the discount. That happened to my kia, with discounts, I saved about $6000 vs an accord at the time. Then I got ~$5000 LESS than a similarly equipped accord when it came time to sell. your mileage may vary, but selling an Si or a GTI both are widely well known cars with a dedicated community around them, is definitely easier. As for the LSD, yes the Si has it, and the GTI uses brake vectoring (basically ABS the free spinning wheel, it's not as good as the real LSD, but it helps). But you are missing the point with the LSD. It's not meant for drag racing. LSDs really helps FWD cars on corner exits. on an open diff FWD car, if you apply too much gas while straitening your turn , you very easily overwhelm your tires and get the "one wheel peel". All the torque goes to the inside wheel that is slipping and you don't get the acceleration you want. the LSD is meant so you can put the power down on both wheels, and actually deliver torque on corner exit.
