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Too Many Beetroot Varieties 

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Beetroot are not a very diverse crop, and for many years I grew only one variety, not knowing if it was the best one to grow in this context. More recently I started to collect seed packets of different varieties from different suppliers, and probably end up with too many. After two large trials this past year, I can pick a few that seem like they would be useful to grow again, and perhaps this is good enough.
0:00 Not something known for variety
1:07 The most noble of all vegetables
2:47 Buying too many seeds
4:31 24 Varieties in a polytunnel
6:20 Comparing weight
7:24 Comparing Taste
9:30 24 varieties outside
11:38 Selecting varieties
13:17 Too many varieties?
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@FireflyOnTheMoon
@FireflyOnTheMoon 6 месяцев назад
One interesting aspect of these videos is that Bruce gets ever more expert at how to run trials, and we learn about good trial design too.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, I have been realising that too! Learning from mistakes, and trying to share. I think, perhaps that aspect of these videos may be more useful than the actual results of the trial in my context.
@chadeller5588
@chadeller5588 6 месяцев назад
@@REDGardens To address the local soil/light/water/etc differences that have made interpretation difficult, you can investigate "randomized block design", which is used in nearly all peer reviewed field work. This will require a lot more planning work and larger samples, but will allow higher confidence in the result.
@FireflyOnTheMoon
@FireflyOnTheMoon 6 месяцев назад
You teach people how to try and measure results (in the garden) without bias or sloppy thinking, which is a rare thing, these days. It's so valuable to learn how to learn. @@REDGardens
@jeil5676
@jeil5676 4 месяца назад
troofs
@TomOfOhHiOh
@TomOfOhHiOh 6 месяцев назад
Your video format and presentation are outstanding. You do it better than any of the other gardening channels in my opinion. I like many but you are by far my favorite. 👍
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@glgauge7999
@glgauge7999 6 месяцев назад
I grow cylindra and always been satisfied with that variety ,
@happygardener28
@happygardener28 6 месяцев назад
I'd been told decades ago that the older the root the less tasty, and some go woody. I do wish to thank you for sharing your results from all of your tests, as my garden in little more than a postage stamp I can't do trials to find the quality information you share.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I have heard that too. Now I want to try growing some so that I have older larger beetroot and younger ones from the same variety in the same plot, just to see how they compare.
@happygardener28
@happygardener28 6 месяцев назад
@@REDGardens There are new varieties and the older varieties may have been improved since the 70s and now so that may not hold true, but it would be good to know for sure.
@alicewilliams9301
@alicewilliams9301 6 месяцев назад
Lutz Greenleaf and it's derivative varieties are supposed to be exceptions to this rule.
@pilsplease7561
@pilsplease7561 4 месяца назад
The new varieties are garbage @@happygardener28
@elenap15227
@elenap15227 6 месяцев назад
These comparison videos are SUPER interesting. Thank you 💕
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
🙂
@rastamagna
@rastamagna 6 месяцев назад
I love beetroot leaves in my salad: they last comparatively longer in the fridge than the usual salad leaves, they are very tasty and rich in fibers which are a blessing for your gut health. They are also good if juiced with some sweet fruit.Thank you for your uploads!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I also love the young beetroot leaves, and the older ones cooked.
@David-xh9cw
@David-xh9cw 6 месяцев назад
Not a massive beetroot fan but I'm considering growing a few plants just for increased variety of food on the plot. Since I'll only grow 1, maybe 2 varieties this was a helpful comparison, cheers!
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 6 месяцев назад
Its Swiss Chard with a bulb,,, practically salad.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
You might find that you start to like them more. I have met a few people who claim to not like beetroot, then they taste ones I have grown!
@sophieharper-pryce5045
@sophieharper-pryce5045 6 месяцев назад
If you can get hold of the seads, moulin rouge is worth a try. A darker root that i have enjoyed greatly. I must say i am suprised with the golden beat as i have always found these so sweet and by far my favourite for roasting, with less of that 'earthy' flavour. Cylindra has also always been a favourite so im glad it has done well for you too, even if they were slightly too crooked 🙃
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for that variety. I was also surprised about the yellow varieties not tasting good.
@ivyclark70
@ivyclark70 6 месяцев назад
Hi Bruce, I was going to suggest Golden Beetroot as well. It's interesting you found them to be bitter and rot more easily. Perhaps the warmer and dryer weather where I am changes their flavour. This variety has been consistently sweeter than the red varieties for me. I've tried both Burpees and Detroit Golden. And it seems there are more gold varieties out there. 😂
@revelation8199
@revelation8199 6 месяцев назад
I just ordered chioggia beetroot seeds last week since they looked cool and were one of the only open pollinated varieties available on the website, I’m glad to see they were one of the stand out varieties you tested!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
A lot of people like that variety!
@Simlatio
@Simlatio 6 месяцев назад
I second this. Choggia even grew well for me in a patch of abused clay without added fertility, so even if you have a brown thumb they will work for you.
@jcstatt8698
@jcstatt8698 6 месяцев назад
Thanks again for another great video, Bruce!
@gowest5145
@gowest5145 6 месяцев назад
My beets grow huge. I love them. I boil them and they are easy to peel and cut.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
🙂
@TonysSunnyGarden
@TonysSunnyGarden 6 месяцев назад
Always really grateful for your variety trial videos! Thanks for sharing. 🙏
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
🙂
@pilsplease7561
@pilsplease7561 4 месяца назад
My favorite beet is Detroit Dark Red, its the sweetest in my opinion.
@bobsiddoway
@bobsiddoway 2 месяца назад
Love beets!
@garyreimer6791
@garyreimer6791 6 месяцев назад
Good information thanks for sharing
@BumblebeeAdventure
@BumblebeeAdventure 5 месяцев назад
🐝 Thanks for the great video 💚
@permiebird937
@permiebird937 6 месяцев назад
My favorite beetroot is an open pollinated heirloom called "Flat of Egypt" it has a deep rich sweet beetroot flavor, short season, and productive. Occasionally we have trouble sourcing good seed, but next time we find good seed we will be saving seed this time.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I wonder how that variety relates to the 'Egyptian" variety we grew?
@permiebird937
@permiebird937 6 месяцев назад
@@REDGardens It doesn't look like Flat of Egypt. Flat of Egypt has very deep maroon red coloring and it has a flat and wide shape.
@TinaWiman
@TinaWiman 6 месяцев назад
I love your variety videos! Thank you so much! When it comes to beetroots, I tend to mix different seeds of different colored beets in a bag and just sow them all together. It makes for a nice variation of beets since I don't grow all that many (my family think they taste earthy and we don't eat a lot of them). Plus I figure, no matteer the soil or weather, one variety or the other will do good. :D
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
That sounds like a good option, have a diversity with each harvest. Nice!
@gymgirllja
@gymgirllja 6 месяцев назад
DETROIT DARK RED. Strong flavor and great leaf greens!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Nice!
@Sean_neaS
@Sean_neaS 6 месяцев назад
You must try apple, beet, ginger smoothie. about 1 beet, 1 apple, and a pealed 1/2 inch chunk of fresh ginger. 1 cup of water. if your blender can't handle it, leave out the ginger or you could strain the leftover ginger strands. So good, and the only reason I buy beet.
@TheGardeninMind
@TheGardeninMind 6 месяцев назад
I'm going to try this recipe. A bunch of years ago my son and I decided to try juicing. We drank a variety of colourful juices which were all very tasty and good, but the "Red" juice, made primarily out of beets, had a strong earthy taste. We knocked it back anyway and gave it a new name: "Red Drit"! Good times!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Sounds good!
@jaymeelk9380
@jaymeelk9380 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much! This was so exciting to watch and I love learning from you! Always stuck with Cylindra but I will try the Chiogga now too for fun and taste.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
🙂
@pilsplease7561
@pilsplease7561 4 месяца назад
Tip for those that dont know is that beets require a lot of boron in the soil they are bitter if they dont have boron its required in order for them to be sweet.
@Junzar56
@Junzar56 6 месяцев назад
Excellent overviw
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@TheGardeninMind
@TheGardeninMind 6 месяцев назад
I watched this video carefully and took notes. Here in BC I've found Cylindra grows well and yields long, thick roots. I was surprised that Bruce didn't include the Beet Greens as part of his evaluation. For market gardeners, apparently beets are highly prized as a 2-for-1 crop as the roots can be sold separatly from the greens for additional profit. I wouldn't know, but I do know we have lots of beet greens in our freezers; certainly glad to have these in January!
@eugenekeogh8864
@eugenekeogh8864 6 месяцев назад
How do you prepare the greens once defrosted please ?
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yes, beet greens are great, and we eat them all the time, though often separated from the roots. I hadn't thought of separating them as a crop to sell. Interesting idea.
@lizc8187
@lizc8187 5 месяцев назад
Bruce, you do provide beet greens separately. With the early crop, I often take the leaves and stems and leave the roots for other people who don't mind red fingers! Also, stirfrying stems and greens is much faster than cooking roots, so if I want a fast meal, the roots definitely stay behind in your fridge. And, lastly, using the stems and leaves is how I avoid that flavour -- I know exactly what you mean, and it's unpleaseant and disappointing to get it. A good beetroot is truly wonderful, but I've experienced that flavour enough that I'm a bit wary of the roots. All that cooking and then it ends up in the horses or the compost.@@REDGardens
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 5 месяцев назад
@@lizc8187 ah, so you are one of the people who separates them. Some people take the roots and leave the tops, but glad there are others who do the opposite. Now I am thinking I should just separate them as I am harvesting, which keeps the greens cleaner and easier to manage.
@lizc8187
@lizc8187 5 месяцев назад
If you did the separating, it would probably keep the fridge tidier, too. But, on the other hand, you have enough work to be doing! @@REDGardens
@Qopzeep
@Qopzeep 6 месяцев назад
I also have experienced the astringent taste! It's awful. I had it with chard as well. When I grew chard in another bed, the taste went away, supporting the idea that there's something in the soil that's causing it. I'm glad it's not just me. I've always had trouble growing beets (everything else went well, so I don't know what's up there). But not Choggia, that beet just keeps going. I even left it in the ground in autumn and it withstood slight freezing no problem. It didn't become woody at all. And it tastes like spring when sliced thinly in salads. By far my favourite. Boltardy is Dowding's go-to beet, so it's weird that it didn't do so well in the no-dig garden. He always sows them in clumps, perhaps that would make a difference? Keep up the variety trails Bruce, I love them! :)
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, it is awful! Nice you had good success with chioggia. It seems to be a very different beetroot plant. I doubt the beetroot sown in clumps is an issue. It is possible that my experience was just bad batch, or poorly grown plant. It could also be an issue with the batch of seeds available. But it could also be that Charlie hasn't tried a lot of the other ones available, or that variety just grows better in his type of soil and climate.
@jasonperry6046
@jasonperry6046 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for another great video.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
🙂
@abbie2151
@abbie2151 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this video! I will say that golden beets are very good pickled!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 2 месяца назад
I want to try growing them again.
@angelad.8944
@angelad.8944 6 месяцев назад
Beets. One either loves them or hates them. ☺ Here in Canada, we have the stand by varieties like detroit dark red, bull's blood, cylindra, early wonder and ruby queen. That is with the main companies that stock local stores. Lots of heritage varieties to choose from besides that. I have to say that the Detroit dark red make the best pickled beets for me. My grandmother drilled it into me that you must pick the beets before they grow more than 7.5 cm/3", no matter what the variety. Anything bigger went to the animals she said. We jsut do batches of harvest, only pulling the largest ones and letting the others carry on until they get a little bigger. I have been growing golden beets and I don't let them get larger than 5 cm/2" because I find they have better flavour when a little smaller. They look like beautiful little golden apricots and have a lovely mild flavour that leans to the sweet side. I let them completely cool down and I think it helps balances out the taste of them. I also like to do the same with any little ones and use them on top of some sauteed beets greens. Very tasty. I also use my left over beet brine as salad dressing for salads. You can also stain boiled eggs for some lovely colour and flavour. Just over night will do. I have some little animals that like to feast on my beets so I have to keep an eye on them. That doesn't always work out. One year I went to pull some and they were all crescent moon shaped roots when I pulled them up. I trimmed the tops and they looked like screaming punk rockers with mo-hawks, haha. 😁 I did a rotation and applied some permaculture techniques since then and that solved most of that issue. I do think it would be worth it for you to try again but harvest continually so they don't get too large. It will actually increase your yields over all I think. Of course, you can still pull some little ones, etc. I think I will do a little trial myself and see what I may be missing out on. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and results so far. I find it all quite fascinating and informative. Makes me excited to start planning the gardens already. 😃
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I want to do a lot more exploring with cooking the different varieties in different ways. I bet there is a lot of difference, but keeping track of 24 varieties is a challenge!
@angelad.8944
@angelad.8944 6 месяцев назад
True. 24 is a lot. ☺@@REDGardens
@TheGardeninMind
@TheGardeninMind 6 месяцев назад
I usually just steam them & season with Red Pepper flakes or a few drops of balsamic or malt vinegar. Once thawed all that really needs to be done to them is “Heat ‘n eat!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Nice!
@goredgord
@goredgord 6 месяцев назад
I've found that the yellow ones and types like chioggia in particular require more water and earlier picking to get a sweeter flavour, but are useless when roasted. Great work Bruce.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Good to know, thanks.
@sharonknorr1106
@sharonknorr1106 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this. Boro is available from a supplier I am about to order from, so I may give it a try.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Hope it works well for you.
@kenneymadsen5710
@kenneymadsen5710 6 месяцев назад
Thanks again for another great video. Its been a few years since I last grew beet root, but I've only grown maybe two of the long kind. The Forono and potentially some other that I cant remember starting the a "B". Those times I was quite satisfied with them, even the huge ones of 2 kg were not even woody. I also have bought some of the orange one you had the Burpees, but never grew it. And maybe I wont now :) I have planned to grow beet root again in 2024, as they are easy, they store fairly well and taste great roasted aswell as pickled.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, I really like them roasted and pickled! Other people really like the Burpees, so it it could be just an issue with the few we tried, or they don't like the polytunnel.
@DK6060
@DK6060 6 месяцев назад
I normally enjoy the flavour of the Touchstone golden beet, but last year’s seeds produced a notably weaker crop for me (smaller and blander). I have a serious leaf miner problem with all beets, and I suspect that is impacting the size of the beets as I rarely get large beets in an otherwise productive garden.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Strange the crop seemed to change. Wonder if something has happened with the seed stock, or just another source.
@jeil5676
@jeil5676 4 месяца назад
I just bought seeds of a variety called Red Mangel. It grows super huge but I think it was originally grown as animal fodder though reviews said it tasted great. We'll see.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 4 месяца назад
sounds interesting.
@jeil5676
@jeil5676 4 месяца назад
@@REDGardens Its on the bakers creek/rare seeds website. They show a couple 5lb.'ers
@annesmit2260
@annesmit2260 3 месяца назад
At the market garden I work at the Boro F1 has been consistently good for several seasons now. Last year we lost some seedlings to drought so we ended up with loads of enormous beets, some of them more than 3 kg's a piece. This isn't uncommon for beets who get too much space but often they will be shaped weirdly. Not this season: they were round and smooth skinned and looked like beets are supposed to look. Overfeeding beets is the main reason beets will split or have rough skin. In our crop rotation it's the last crop before a cover crop (same goes for the carrots)
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 месяца назад
That is really interesting. I have grown some really large beetroot like that, caused by the same poor germination. The issue I had was knowing what to do with them!
@wmpx34
@wmpx34 6 месяцев назад
Great video Bruce! But the challenge is to get my wife to like beets 😂 Beets are very high up on most “survival crop” lists I see, presumably because of how easy they are to grow and how much calories they have in them compared to other options.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yes, it is a great crop from a survival standpoint. Fair amount of energy for a vegetable crop, can store well, and can be eaten at any stage, and quit nutritious especially with the leaves. And really high yielding and not a lot of pest or disease issues, at least in this context.
@benm9910
@benm9910 6 месяцев назад
Thanks Bruce, another super interesting trial. We mainly grow detroit, boltardy and chiogia. Im never sure about non-red beetroot but ill have to try more chiogia raw. Borscht is a favorite use for us! I thought issues with bolting were supposed to be from early sowings, so boltardy often reccomended for them. When didnyou sow the polytunnel crop? Id also always assumed that the bad taste was from roots that were too old, will have to pay more attention! Ive also always wondered about storage beet as a forth crop on the simple garden. Do you think that would work? In 2021 we got away with leaving beetroot in the ground for overwinter harvest but then in 2022 warm autum followed by sudden low temperature caused a lot to to go bad, skin went soft and mouldy. So now we're lifting and storing in sand which is working well. Thanks as alway, Ben in Leeds
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Beetroot after the onions in the Simple garden might work well. They are fast enough growing. I haven't experienced any bolting, except for with overwintering plants, no matter how early I sow them. The ones in the polytunnel were sown at the beginning of march.
@SK-lt1so
@SK-lt1so 6 месяцев назад
I've tried different varieties over the years (I love beets) and never noticed much difference in taste-root or leaf.
@BalticHomesteaders
@BalticHomesteaders 6 месяцев назад
I always find these trial videos interesting this one equally so but perhaps for different reasons. I grow beets for the family as it’s a fairly staple crop here but as you mentioned I myself am one of those people who find the taste really earthy although I like the leaves and stems. I have tried various varieties over the years and rely on my wife’s and her mother’s feedback as to how they taste. Now what’s interesting is that the chigogia variety you stated as being really nice here they said it was not nice and yet the golden varieties you didn’t seem to enjoy the one I grew (goldeneye) here was a hit! I really enjoy growing them as they look really nice in the garden I just wish I enjoyed them more, they aren’t too bad pickled though. I grow Bona, De Egypt & Bolthardy. Thanks.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
That is a shame that you are one of those people that is more sensitive to that earthy flavour. And I do find in interesting how different people have very different preferences. I wonder if it is that some varieties just produce much better, or are tastier, in different contexts.
@jperiksen
@jperiksen 6 месяцев назад
love your trials. how about a broccoli trial?
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Working on it. Need another batch/season.
@realm919
@realm919 6 месяцев назад
I was quite happy with the 'golden eye' variety from lidl, very sweet and very slightly earthy taste with good quality beets. Not sure if they are available over there.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I haven't seen that variety available here.
@milupas
@milupas 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for the video. I'm loving the trialling/testing chapters. I'm very surprised you did not like the taste of the yellow varieties because I found them really taste. I have no fancy seeds, I've been buying them from lidl for a few years. I think the variety is called golden burpee (not sure you trialed them) I also grow completely white beetroot with good results, though people say it is less healthy due to not having pigment.. it is less messy in the kitchen though. Like other people said in the comments maybe the bad taste on those varieties could have been diminished with younger roots?
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I was also surprised that we didn't like the flavour so much. I want to grow them again to see if it si the same issue, or just something with that batch.
@FallofftheMap
@FallofftheMap 6 месяцев назад
It melts my brain when I hear people call it “beet root.” Do you say potato root, carrot root, turnip root, or parsnip root? No. I can’t get over it even though I know it’s asinine.
@TheGardeninMind
@TheGardeninMind 6 месяцев назад
Nevermind. "Pigs is pigs" &"Beets is Beets! @@chrisgartenn
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, I had issues with it when I first moved over here, but now I find 'beet' just weird. I also like it because it distinguishes it from chard which is the same plant grown for the leaf.
@FallofftheMap
@FallofftheMap 6 месяцев назад
@@REDGardens chard and beet are not the same plant or even similar. I grow both. I can’t tell if you’re trolling or what. Are there gardening channel trolls, is that a thing?
@FallofftheMap
@FallofftheMap 6 месяцев назад
@@chrisgartenn I feel like that’s like saying wolves and dogs are the same animal. They have been selectively bred into different plants. They came from the same plant but they are not the same plant anymore.
@newfieingenuity
@newfieingenuity 5 месяцев назад
Some of the rot looks like boron deficiency, beet root requires a lot of boron. Hope this helps, love your videos!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into that.
@davidmartin5358
@davidmartin5358 6 месяцев назад
hey, great video again. Do you have any recommendations for seed suppliers? Struggling to find a good variety from Irish suppliers, and UK suppliers are not an option any more. Are there good ones from other EU countries that are worth exploring?
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
It is tough here in Ireland now, but there are a few more suppliers. You might try Seedaholic who have a fairly large range, and I think are based in Galway, but sell repackaged seeds from elsewhere. Brown Envelope Seeds and Irish Seed Savers often have a lot of different varieties, and save their own seed. The other option I use in Germany is Bingenheimer.
@plotsixtyone4188
@plotsixtyone4188 6 месяцев назад
I have been working on a cross of touchstone gold and Mulatka (red). We aim to breed a yellow beetroot with vigorous growth and a sweet non earthy flavour. We are just eating the first generation and we are really impressed so far. It's also great raw. Let me know if you would like to trial any seed.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
That sounds really interesting. Where are you based?
@plotsixtyone4188
@plotsixtyone4188 6 месяцев назад
@@REDGardens South of England
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 6 месяцев назад
Spread out germination is my biggest issue with beets. I used to have trouble with insects eating seedlings until I switched to transplanting them. I also used to have trouble with the leaves having dark spots until I increased the boron levels in my soil. I'm going to soak the seeds pods in a strong solution of potassium nitrate for half an hour before planting and see if that solves my germination issue. This has worked with other stubborn seeds.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
interesting that boron helped.
@nonyadamnbusiness9887
@nonyadamnbusiness9887 6 месяцев назад
@@REDGardensI'm on sandy soil that is deficient in several micronutrients. Fertilizers rarely contain much boron. It's easy to overapply and poison the soil.
@dovinhgarden05
@dovinhgarden05 5 месяцев назад
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@scoobydoo5447
@scoobydoo5447 5 месяцев назад
“Bulls Blood” beets are tasty. Almost like eating candy.
@titanlurch
@titanlurch 6 месяцев назад
I'm not sure if this pertains to beets but seed producers hybridize for shelf life and tend to sacrifice flavor and nutritional value to that end.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yes, one of the reasons for testing lots!
@lksf9820
@lksf9820 6 месяцев назад
I grew golden Boldor F1 this year and they tasted ok, didn't go woody so maybe one to try. I wonder what caused so much rot on yours, sounds obvious, but they didn't get touched by frost did they? I've noticed they're no good outside in Winter with a climate similar to yours, but worse. They're ok started in Aug then overwintered in the PT though, get a decent crop by early Summer perhaps and the leaves are in much better condition in there.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
There was some frost, but that is fine as they all got exposed. Not sure if it contributed to the bad patches on some of the varieties, but if others were fine, then I would prefer to grow them.
@franceshoward7112
@franceshoward7112 6 месяцев назад
A really interesting discussion , please do another and discuss the flavour, sweetness in depth too. That's what we eat beetroot for. I love boiled beetroot with bechamel/white sauce but you have to eat it fast as the sauce goes lurid pink and looks disgusting. Tastes good though. Last year I grew detroit dark red and boltardy as recommended by Charles Dowding and was surprised when (for me) the detroit beet tasted better and sweeter than botardy by quite a lot. I would guess that beetroot flavours ae controlled by sugars? Fascinating topic , thank you.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I often see the boltardy recommended, but we found it mediocre compared to others.
@DaveSmith-pm2yq
@DaveSmith-pm2yq 2 месяца назад
Make a landrace Lofthouse style.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 2 месяца назад
That would be interesting, and a lot of work!
@samuelbarrow5502
@samuelbarrow5502 6 месяцев назад
I'm curious if the bitter after taste is attributed to the nitrates and nitrites that are naturally abundant in beets. Perhaps certain conditions will cause the beets to store an excess causing the unpleasant taste. I'm interested to know if the plants grown outside are more likely to have this flavor than the ones grown in the more controlled environment of the poly tunnel. I'm not sure but it's a very intriguing topic. Great video
@samuelbarrow5502
@samuelbarrow5502 6 месяцев назад
So I did a brief research session and found that beets contain saponins. (The same stuff that make yucca roots "soapy") not sure on how to get the plants to produce less of this. Perhaps it's genetic. However I believe soaking the root in cool water a few hours before consuming would nock the bitter back a bit.
@samuelbarrow5502
@samuelbarrow5502 6 месяцев назад
However the saponins are made of compounds that are used to produce proteins. So I'm very curious if nitrogen levels have any contributions to the bitterness. It would be beneficial to do a trial run similar to the grow bags used for your potatoes. And see if less is more. Or if more is less in regards to nitrogen and the flavor profile of beets
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I think it does happen more in the outside gardens, but that might be more because of different soil fertility that the microclimate. I suspect it is a deficiency of some kind, as I had more instances of that taste years ago when I was starting the gardens and the soil wasn't very developed or fertile. And before I started adding more nitrogen on a regular basis, so excess nitrates might not be the issue.
@userunknown7675
@userunknown7675 6 месяцев назад
Hey Bruce which was your German supplier (am located in the Netherlands and bought from van der wall last year (2 orders) and hadn't recieved a complete order, so looking to check out other suppliers).
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I use Bingenheimer, and find them to be good.
@userunknown7675
@userunknown7675 6 месяцев назад
​@@REDGardensThanks, I'll check them out.
@stewart4142
@stewart4142 6 месяцев назад
Another great informative video. Ive decided that im going to try out a wider range (12) of beetroot this season because I love picked beetroot also juiced. Ive never come across or even heard of that bad after taste. My dad had a few allotments from before I was born and him and my mother would make jars of pickles. They would pickle almost all of the vegetables he grew. Thank you for your channel, it's extremely useful and realistic.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
You are very fortunate to have never come across that aftertaste. I have bad memories of really bad beetroot, makes me a bit hesitant tasting any beetroot now!
@gregbluefinstudios4658
@gregbluefinstudios4658 6 месяцев назад
My beet crop failed miserably this year. Actually, my beet ROOT crop failed. Plenty of greens, but tiniest of bulbs. I think it was a timing issue, as I got them into the garden too late. Not enough time for the bulbing out... before the Freeze.
@gregbluefinstudios4658
@gregbluefinstudios4658 6 месяцев назад
Hmmm, can't find Sanguina in the US. looks like it's a UK/Irish Seed.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
That is interesting. I wonder if too much nitrogen or some of the factor.
@gregbluefinstudios4658
@gregbluefinstudios4658 6 месяцев назад
maybe the nitrogen contributed, @@REDGardens but I still think i simply sowed too late.
@FrozEnbyWolf150
@FrozEnbyWolf150 6 месяцев назад
I'm going to be growing sugar beets this year so that we can have our own homegrown sweetener. (Stevia is too bitter for me.) From what I know, it grows in the same conditions as other beets, as it's just a different breed of the same species.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I tried sugar beets years ago when I didn't know what I was doing, and it was horrible. But now that you mention it, I might try growing it again.
@lisahodges8299
@lisahodges8299 6 месяцев назад
Are you eating the bitter beetroot before it is ready to be eaten? Birdy
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
No, most of the time they are tastier when young. It is not a crop that 'ripens' in that way.
@ardenthebibliophile
@ardenthebibliophile 6 месяцев назад
When you measure tbe mass of each variety, is that including the tops?
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
With the summer crop, yes, I measure it all as I grow it to eat it all. With the later crop it is just the trimmed roots.
@ardenthebibliophile
@ardenthebibliophile 6 месяцев назад
@@REDGardens was it distinguished in the video? I typically prioritize the root over the veg so I would be interested in the root-only yield results you obtained
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
@@ardenthebibliophile I didn't distinguish with the early crop, just weighed the whole plant.
@ardenthebibliophile
@ardenthebibliophile 6 месяцев назад
@@REDGardens I misunderstood from the comment I thought you weighed twice
@bakcompat
@bakcompat 6 месяцев назад
I don't eat beets cuz they taste like dirt, but thanks for sharing nonetheless.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
You are probably one of those people who is quite sensitive to that flavour, I usually can't taste it.
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 6 месяцев назад
Doesn't seem like a lot of greens for such big bulbs or corms or whatever its called. You would think something with that much energy reserve could easily take some regular leaf harvest for salad.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
It could probably handle occasional picking of leaves, but the main task for the plant is to grow a storage root for seed production next year.
@charlespalmer3595
@charlespalmer3595 6 месяцев назад
I wonder how much diversity there really is in beetroot, do the seed suppliers slap on their own names to seed that is pretty much the same as anyone else's? My experience with germination puts beetroot in with carrots, the germination rates are totally random! But I think that germination is better with very fresh/young seed compared to 1 or 2 year old seed.
@benm9910
@benm9910 6 месяцев назад
Beetroot seedlife at room temperature is apparently normally 2-3 years. And of course some suppliers will already be selling 2yr old seed. Cheers
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, fresh seed is always better!
@PeterSedesse
@PeterSedesse 6 месяцев назад
My advice. forget everything else and just go with taste. Too many varieties are developed simply to trick us at the supermarket. Cool colorings, larger size etc. I don't grow beets to store, so that part of it doesn't even matter either.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Good advice!
@user-tk1xd9js1z
@user-tk1xd9js1z 3 дня назад
Forino = Forono
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 3 дня назад
👍
@NVH83
@NVH83 6 месяцев назад
The younger you harvest the better the taste. The woodiness and bitterness comes from the beet aging. Some people say, harvest as soon as they are goflball sized, that's a bit too small for my taste, but I will admit that any of my beets that were closer to tennis ball sizes, the more woody they became. So I aim for a size inbetween golf ball and tennis ball now.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
I have found that with some crops, but have also tasted really bad smaller/younger roots, and delicious large ones. I think it depends a lot on the quality of the soil and the spacing - and probably the variety.
@LauraTeAhoWhite
@LauraTeAhoWhite 6 месяцев назад
I know this isn't a political channel but Brexit closed off access to so many good avenues for gardeners. Hopefully people start saving seeds.
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, Brexit really messed up a lot.
@agarsorchids7708
@agarsorchids7708 5 месяцев назад
No. 667 like❤
@revvend
@revvend 6 месяцев назад
2:20 I asked Aria, the Opera browser's free built in AI chatbot, about the bitter aftertaste and this is what it said it can be down to: "Varietal Differences: Different varieties of beetroot can vary in their taste profiles. Some varieties may naturally have a slightly bitter undertone, especially if they are grown under certain conditions or harvested at specific stages of maturity. Growing Conditions: Environmental factors during the growth of the beetroot, such as soil quality, temperature, and sunlight exposure, can influence its flavor. Stressful growing conditions, such as inconsistent watering or excessive heat, may lead to the development of a bitter taste in the beetroot. Overmaturity: Beetroot that is allowed to remain in the ground for an extended period can become overmature, leading to a potential increase in bitter compounds. Harvesting beetroot at the appropriate stage of maturity can help avoid this issue. Storage Conditions: Improper storage of beetroot, particularly if it is kept for an extended period or exposed to unfavorable conditions such as high humidity or temperature fluctuations, can result in the development of off-flavors, including bitterness. Soil pH and Nutrient Imbalance: Soil pH and nutrient levels can impact the flavor of beetroot. An imbalance in soil pH or inadequate nutrient availability, particularly an excess of certain elements, can contribute to a bitter taste in the harvested crop. Cooking Method: The cooking method used for beetroot can also influence its taste. Overcooking or certain cooking techniques may intensify any existing bitterness in the vegetable." It's a pretty smart and is completely free, it has helped me a lot when trying to figure out what went wrong in my garden... :-/
@revvend
@revvend 6 месяцев назад
And then I asked what "excess elements in the soil" it meant that can contribute to the bitter flavour and this is what it said: "Excessive levels of certain elements in the soil can contribute to the development of a bitter flavor in beetroot. These elements include: Nitrogen: An excess of nitrogen in the soil can lead to the production of nitrates, which may contribute to a bitter taste in beetroot. High levels of nitrogen, often resulting from excessive fertilizer application, can lead to imbalanced plant growth and affect the flavor of the harvested crop. Boron: Elevated levels of boron in the soil can potentially lead to bitter flavors in beetroot. While boron is an essential micronutrient for plant growth, an excess can negatively impact the taste and quality of the crop. Molybdenum: High levels of molybdenum in the soil may also be associated with the development of a bitter taste in beetroot. Molybdenum, although required in small quantities by plants, can become problematic when present in excessive amounts. Other Trace Elements: Excessive levels of other trace elements, such as selenium or heavy metals, can also impact the flavor of beetroot, potentially leading to undesirable bitter or metallic tastes. It's important to note that while these elements are essential for plant growth, an imbalance or excess can negatively affect the flavor and overall quality of the harvested beetroot. Therefore, maintaining balanced soil fertility and nutrient levels is crucial to promoting the optimal growth and flavor of beetroot. Conducting soil tests and following recommended fertilization practices can help prevent the accumulation of excessive elements that may contribute to a bitter taste in the crop." Maybe you could get your soil tested to see what's actually in it?
@patriciawaterman7280
@patriciawaterman7280 6 месяцев назад
@@revvend jeeez, i just wanted to buy some boron to add to the soil, I thought it was a good idea, but yeah i should probably test it first. Totally didn't think of it, thank you!
@REDGardens
@REDGardens 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, I occasionally use the AI chatbots to help figure out things, or to at least point in the direction of possible answers/reasons, though I would not trust them by default.
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