I notified my employer that I would be taking time off, several weeks in advance. It was approved. One day before my time off started, another manager informed me that SHE was the one who was supposed to be informed. I told her I was unaware of that. She replied "Now you do". End of conversation. I started my time off the next day and got a call from another employee that the manager was looking for me and was informed that I had the week off. At the end of the week, a third manager called me to inform me that I had been terminated for taking unapproved time off. The state employment commission took a dim view of their tactics. It did not go well for them. Toodaloo!
"Four days off is too long" = proving yet again how backward the US is compared to the rest of the civilised world where a manager doesnt even BLINK when a staffer takes two weeks PAID leave.
It's really not. It's the corporation agreeing to compensate you, and your boss deciding that part of that compensation isn't good for her. It is a tripartite misalignment and should be addressed as such. If you pretend that it is a simple matter of wage theft, your outcome is likely to be worse.
@@aum1040 It is not my job, to facilitate the communication between - the boss, who has stated in a legally binding document, I am allowed to take a certain amount of days off (with some limitations on when they are and with what margin they are to be communicated) - and [my manager / one of *their* employees] tasked with making that happen, while minimizing the impact this has on the total workflow. As for that communication, that should not be part of the job _but might be_ That's exactly what _the communication with HR_ was about: "Hey corporate: here I have documented evidence that what your employee is doing, allegedly on your behalf, is literally a crime. Your call, will you correct this assertion of your employee, that this crime is committed on your behalf or confirm it, in the latter case I will take this admission to my lawyer" Or more accurately: "Hey manager, the above mentioned conversation will happen unless you start acting reasonable. Even if they have, with plausible deniability of-course, ordered you to trick your staff into as much wage-theft as you can get away with. Are you sure they will stick up for you in court?"
As often as not, the problem isn't with top management. It's with the pathetic Uriah Heeps who think mistreating subordinates gets them credit with the top floor. Which in fact it can do for a while... Right up until the trouble starts, when the company's lawyers erect legal barricades - with those abusive managers/supervisors on the other side.
A while back, I interviewed for a new job. At the first interview, I mentioned that I was getting married in three months and what time I’d need off for my honeymoon. No problem. Got the job. As the date came up, I was told - “that demo is coming up. We need you to cancel your honeymoon.” I replied, “well, I can come back after the honeymoon, or not at all. Your choice.” I immediately started looking for a new job…
When I first started working I had an otherwise bad boss who had a really good policy: he insisted that people take at least one solid week of vacation each year. The other days could be used for 3-4 day weekends, etc., but you had to take a full week off. He said vacations were to rest and forget about work, and it was easier to do that when you're gone for a longer period.
Had that happen once. Was in a trucking job and the business manager loved denying time off. I told her, in no uncertain terms, that I would be taking my vacation from and to and while I was away if she would be so kind as to email me if I should be looking for employment elsewhere that that would be helpful. Got back from my vacation and she was noticeably missing. Asked the owner of the company and found out that she had been denying nearly all of the drivers their allotted time off and she got her walking papers for it.
My fiancées job does this to her all the time while her coworker takes of days and weeks off at a time. Fortunately, she works a union job and they strong arm her boss into giving her what is rightfully hers…when she gets fed up enough.
Sounds like your fiancée needs to watch these videos with you, so she can get fed up more often but still know how to word things so that HR can't get up her @$$.
What employers don't understand is we are not asking them for the days off. We're letting them know when we're not going to be there so they can plan accordingly.
The whole idea of approving or not approving time off is wrong. Employers should publish the rules they use regarding advance notice, but even duration is not a reason to deny it - "you want 2 weeks off! Outrageous"
Watching your videos always make me appreciate living in Germany even more! I got 30 vacation days and there is nothing like a "sick day". When you're sick, you're sick! When sick, I can stay at home up to 3 days. If the sickness continues I have to see a doctor to get a certificate. Just telling how long, not the kind of illness. And if someone is chronical ill or has been ill for a longer time - the employer offers a talk to discuss what can be done to help the employee!
We don't need to get a doctor's note for sickness, so that's a benefit if you're really ill. You just tell your boss you're sick. Plus, sick days accrue. I have 314 hours of sick leave saved. It might be a problem if you have a chronic illness, or many young kids who are always sick, but there is leave.
@@jenniferpearce1052 What happens when you used those 314 hours? (Last year I had a really bad bronchitis, on the edge of a pneumonia, and I was at home for 4 weeks.)
I live in Canada. Got sick at work with what seemed like a stomach flu. I was allowed to go home for a few hours but had to come back even though there was another employee that volunteered to finish my tasks.
Same. We had absolutely nothing going on in the forseeable future so I asked for a few days off a couple weeks out and it was declines "because the team would be understaffed" when we had absolutely no reason to be fully staffed to begin with. Still sore about it - lets just say that individual is not in a position of power anymore :D
Unlimited PTO is just an accounting scam. I work in Finance and my company CFO was absolutely giggly when they implemented this because he knew that the managers would deny at least half of the requests and that they would be saving a ton of money on carrying any PTO debt. This has been a nightmare for everyone. We can't take more than 4 consecutive days off, and we can not take PTO immediately before or after a holiday. We have to ask for PTO at least three weeks before the date. Once denied, there is no recourse to appeal (HR ignores the request). If we manage to take more than 10 days off in a year, it is noted in our performance reviews as a negative issue.
Yeah. Unlimited PTO better come with a hefty pay raise. The statistics are very clear, unlimited PTO results in less time off and removes your legal right to that portion of your compensation package. Its a complete scam.
Thanks to your videos, when my manager asked me to not work from home when another colleague was on holiday half a year ago I replied "I am open to discuss adding terms to my contract if additional compensation is offered". The topic was dropped immediately. Just told the story to another co-worker and had to leave this comment here 😂
50 Years ago as a 25 year old young man, my dad requested time off to attend (as spectator) a National event drag race in Pomona "Cali" and was denied. He went on to become a touring Professional race driver, tuner, race engine builder , and exclusive builder for one of the most well known vehicles in the world. He was highlighted in magazines, baseball cards , ESPN and a Hall of Famer. Obviously his weekend in Pomona had a very positive impact.
You know those numbers you pull out of your ass when you make your reports and projections and shit? Well, HR can do the same thing with your evaluation report. Corporations are all big bullshit machines. So please apply this "I'm gonna tell you what's what" strategy a person who is a freelance RU-vid creator suggests. You'll be a freelance RU-vid creator too, in no time. Except she's hot and you probably aren't. So you will be a broke, unemployed freelance RU-vid creator.
Right on! I had such a bad experience with my first employer after grad school that I went into business for myself and was very successful. Wasn't going to subject myself to any of that corporate BS.
I used to manage a bunch of staff at a mid-size law firm. I always encouraged people to take time off. I'll never understand managers who resent employees who try to take time off. My employees were so hard working. They always went and above and beyond for me and I know it's because I showed them that I cared about them and respected their time away from work.
I’m nearly 40. I just wanted to make a quick comments all the younger generation about boundaries. In my early 20s I was very subservient and a people pleaser. But then later on, I became more assertive about my boundaries and one thing that you need to know you only need to flex your muscles about your boundaries just a few times before people understand what line they’re able to cross with you. I had a boss that wanted to criticize me in a group chat. I spoke to her directly, and in a serious tone immediately after it happened. I never had any issues after that. The best part about boundaries is once you’re able to clearly indicate what you’re willing to tolerate. Most people don’t want to overstep those boundaries. So it definitely gets easier..
Laughs in British: "Most workers who work a 5-day week must receive at least 28 days’ paid annual leave a year. This is the equivalent of 5.6 weeks of holiday.". Personally, I get 29 days + 8 Bank Holiday days. 😊
Just curious, but what are the 8 days? I'd figure Christmas and New Years, but I'm guessing you don't get 4th of July (US Independence) or Memorial Day.
I really appreciate your videos! Just left another toxic work environment. It baffles me that these companies don't give a rip about their good employees.
Companies in the U.S. (most large ones ,at least) have a "people are not people, they are 'resources'" attitude, like employees are cattle. They are fungible assets. And they don't care about fancy things like "institutional knowledge" and that sort as long as the next quarter was more profitable than the previous one. It's sick. Your complacency and lack of unions have made the U.S. into the ultra-capitalist endgame hellscape it is.
The world has changed since I worked in a big corporation. They insisted on our time off and we were not allowed to shorten our lunch breaks either. It's good that these videos are helpful to those who need the help and humorous to all. If I were still in HR, I'd use these for training videos.
@@andreacook7431 That company and manager may just be keepers. Ethics in employment. Who'd have thought. But, if you have to be reminded to take time off, maybe it's time to re-evaluate your life? Don't know. Don't know you. Go play!
a lot of big corps force people to take their time off for a number of reasons. 1) it helps to prevent burnout/stress. 2) it forces the org to be able to deal with anyone being not there. 3) its harder to keep something covered up if you aren't always there
It can depend on what state you work in, and if you're hourly or salaried. Some states *do not* let employers mess around with hourly workers missing mandatory breaks and lunches or employees being denied the time off they've accrued. The bigger the company, the more likely it is that they've had to do a payout on either individual lost wage claims or gotten dinged by the Department of Labor for it.
I worked a commissioned sales retail job that told us we could cash in our vacation days for pay. Since our vacation pay was far below what we could make by being on the sales floor, most of us planned on just using the extra cash as a Christmas bonus to ourselves. Come Thanksgiving the store manager decided to reverse the policy and told us we would have to use the time or lose it. Since we all had 3-4 weeks worth of time banked we informed him that since would have to use our vacation days before December 31st that he would need to find trained coverage for the most profitable departments in the store. The next day we all had our vacation paid out to us. Funny thing is the numbskull tried it again the next year with the same result.
Was a bus boy at the beach for two summers. Start of the season I tell them I'm taking all of August off. Sure thing. Start of July I send a reminder that I'm gone for August. "No problem". Two weeks later I give another reminder. No complaints. One week later I remind them again just to be sure and they realize they've had all the possible notice. So they try to start a conversation like this but fumbled it as quickly as it started. I just gave them a look and they understood I knew they read the emails and texts. It was glorious. Never showed my face there again lol.
I was planning ongoing on a 2 week cruise. So I put my time off request in eight months beforehand, which was approved. One week before my cruise, my boss said don't make any big plans. I may recind your approval for vacation. This is how my boss played favorites period I found out later that 1 of my co-worker that had just come back from 8 weeks maternity leave asked for a week of vacation during the time that I was already scheduled off for my cruise.
The same thing happened to me this holiday season… it was so frustrating to be stuck at work while my family was enjoying time together. And there was literally nothing urgent happening during those 10 days - obviously, it was the holidays! I had nothing to do most of the time! Be strong, we’ll find something better soon.
@@GiovannaParanhosI would have just said "the job market favors me. There's open jobs everywhere. Approve it or you're down an employee". And yes, I've quit on a dime for stuff like that. At a weld shop they tried to force me to work for free. I told thr plant manager "fuck off. I quit"
Its not a PTO request, its a PTO notification. You don't request the time off, you notify them you'll be unavailable. Direct the narrative in your favor. Document, document, document, get it in writing if possible too.
I like the spirit of this, but the business may legitmately deny a PTO request if it is during a busy season, or if someone else is already going to be off during that time. But planning ahead can help avoid this.
@@linuxsurfer2002 lack of coverage is the employer's problem, not mine. If the vast majority of employees are notifying you they'll be out during a specific time, that's a big hint to close your business for that time period. Look at US retailers, most are no longer open Thanksgiving and Christmas days even though, in theory, that would be "big business" days, but without employees to run the shops, they need to be closed....so they are now.
@@wendys6438 That doesn't work in the corrugating industry. That doesn't work for any industry, because if that's the case then if every employee requested the same day then what do you? You don't close production because now your customers are going to be pissed and then their customers are going to be pissed.
@@simplystreeptacular you chose to go in to the medical field. You should negotiate appropriate time off BEFORE signing an employment contract. Again, adequate coverage is up to the employer, not the employee. If your employer doesn't have enough funding to staff additional employees when you need time off, they should partner with other offices to send patients to when your office is closed due to lack of staffing. Human doctors do this all the time when they go away, they either bring in another doctor to cover in their office or tell their patients they can see a different doctor in another office who has access to your medical records upon request. 👍🏻
Watching your videos makes me appreciate my employer that much more. Don't have these issues where I work. Crazy coworkers, on the other hand, is a different story.....
I had a division manager use that same BS line " You don't get ahead in this company by taking time off". These were personal days specified in my contract as well. I then asked him how he got to be a division manager by going to Cancun every January. I then called HR. While he was not terminated he was given a strong reprimand and moved to another division. our next DM encouraged us to take our time off and even made some people take their time as it was use it or lose it yearly.
I’m so grateful for the company I work for. My boss is kind and caring. She is firm when needed though. I needed a sudden day off on short notice and she made it happen. Made sure my shift was covered. The only time in three years that she had to go back on an agreed day off was because someone resigned and there was nobody to cover my shift. We all pull together when we need to. She reminds me to take leave, we are offered free counselling, and have been rewarded for pulling together during really tough times. It’s lovely to feel appreciated, supported and seen.
I've done this with my boss, years back: "It's part of my pay, and I'm not asking permission. I'm telling you I won't be here then. If you reject it, I'll use sick days, and maybe you'll fire me so I can go accept the position I was offered by our competitor, but either way, HR has been notified, and I will NOT be in those days, it will NOT impact my career, and you WILL have to plan accordingly." Every year since, I've never gotten one ounce of grief for taking PTO. Turn it in, insta-approved.
Something to remember when watching these wonderful videos is to do your due diligence regarding employment law in your country and/ or state. For instance, most states in America are "employee-at-will", which means employers can fire workers without providing any reason whatsoever. The only time they can't is when the employee can prove it was due to prejudice against a protected class, e.g. religion, race, disability, age, gender, pregnancy. Best advice, get any and all communications at work via email, as all of it can be used as evidence (works both ways, so don't say anything stupid).
Except that there are still circumstances where even "at will" states have to provide good reason for firing an employee, apart from protected classes, or else they face legal issues, like wrongful termination. And it isn't wise to fire your most productive and reliable employees, although some managers like to as a way to flex.
That's not actually true. They still have to provide a *legitimate* reason, and it also cannot be due to retaliatory measures, etc. It's just that they don't have to jump over nearly as many hoops. Folks, always document everything, and talk to employment rights lawyers!
They can fire you without any reason in an "At Will" state, what they can't do is deny unemployment without stating a valid reason and they cannot fire you legally for a protected status or for refusing to do something illegal.
Building off @Mortlupo's reply, firing you for not participating in illegal things INCLUDES not using your PTO. Check the labor laws. It is not legal for them to deny you part of your compensation, whether that's pay for the hours you've worked or the PTO in your contract. So, if a job ever tells you they fired you over this, write it down and save any communications about it to present to a lawyer and the labor board.
Your clips have inspired me to be braver! Recently I submitted a time off request, and it was not really a request. It was more of a notification of a block of time when I would not be available to work. Not rude, just firm.
Thank you for making all these videos and teaching us how to deal with our evil, toxic, and psychotic bosses. You are the greatest hero the world has ever known.
I remember a boss who would always say request time off as far ahead of time as possible. After he would receive the request his response was always I need to wait until its closer before I approve it. That would go on until a week before the requested time. The smart people always told him they had booked air travel when they made the request.
I had the same discussion with a manager from another (!) department. He forgot, that I was hired as a freelancer. So I basically told him "try me" and went on vacation. 😂
It can indeed get very bad. I tried for a 3 week vacation once and was told only 2 weeks in a row were allowed. I unfortunately let them off the hook there, but was gone shortly after due to other issues regarding payment. Now I have had four years of fantastic supportive bosses who have all protected my personal time and made sure I got every day I asked for. It has never been “we don’t have availability” but rather, ok let’s train someone so you have backup for that time.
I worked at a McDonald's hamburger restaurant back in the 1980's. I took the week around Christmas off for vacation, but since it was so close to the end of the year, I got paid for it in January. When I tried to take more time off during the new year, I was told I couldn't since I'd already used my allowed time for the year. I called HR and I don't know what came over me, but I argued calmly and firmly (I shocked myself) and told them I took the time off the year before. It's not my fault we got paid every 2 weeks, and I received the vacation pay in January. They actually apologized and said I was right and granted my time off.
watching these videos makes me Appreciate how lucky I am to have a great boss. He allows me to leave early if I have doctor Appointments, family emergencies etc.. I do not take advantage of his kindness. 2 years ago when my husband was critically Ill he allowed me the week off to be with him at the hospital.
I had a very similar occurrence about 18 years ago with a supervisor that told me that a week vacation would no be approved. Then I found he had requested 2 weeks off and it was granted. Needless to say that both he and the Personnel division got in deep shit when the Assistant County Manager opened the formal Union complaint a few days later. My supervisor couldn't justify his denial of my leave and was give a formal verbal chastisement.
I’m keeping note of this. No one should be able to force anyone to overwork when they don’t need to nor are required to. Why’re these unprofessionals allowed higher positions in corporate????
*1)* Because a lot of people will cave to the bullying and abuse (and make no mistake, that's what this crap is) and will try to stick it out and suck it up, even when they shouldn't. *2)* Managers hate promoting people who are highly competent; it makes them worried that said competent people will be promoted into their jobs and they'll be out a cushy slot, so instead they much prefer to promote mediocrity. *3)* C-suite folk LIKE managers like this, because managers who bully their subordinates into not taking vacation/PTO days, staying late w/o overtime pay, and doing the jobs of multiple people at once for the salary/wages of a single employee not only earn the corporate fat cats more money via all the extra work done, but _save_ them money as well. Why hire more people when you can just bully some poor schmuck into doing the work of 3-4 people instead?
Before I retired, I used to save as much of my holiday entitlement as I could, and take 2-3 weeks off work before Christmas, and I did not have to return to work until the day after New Year's day!
I had that with an ex manager. He refused my time off because we were always too busy for me to take it. Even to take sick leave for some surgery I was having. He wouldn't employ qualified people to help me only people I would have to take time training, which meant longer time not having time off. I burnt out several times over several years because of that. Had to stay because we were building a house and I needed long term employment at that time. Moved on and much happier and supported now. Even being a supportive leader myself.
My current manager now is great so this isn’t about her but previously I’d request a day off and it would be turned down because it was last minute. This was all said despite them having no issue taking shifts from me or just changing them a day before the actual shift.
@@americandissident9062 Indeed, and when that happens i straight up look for new jobs when my working hours are over, yes sometimes im too tired for that but once or twice a week does the trick for me, do not stay on a places like this and only stay if you REALLY need that money but the rule is do not let a job get your mental go to shit.
Note: that's not humble bragging. Humble bragging is when you do something amazing but pass it off as everyday quotidian. Not taking your leave entitlement and mentioning it is glorifying gormlessness.
Better to take time off during the year instead of everyone rushing in November and December to use the time. Manager hated that i would take friday or monday making 3 day weekends during the summer but helped my mental state with family
I'd love to see a job interview turned around: "so, I'd need recommendations of 3 current and 3 former employees in writing. proof your company can and actually does pay their employees for the at least the last 24 months. a criminal records check for each and every person above me in the hierarchy. [etc] also some questions: does your company plan to merge with another company? are there plans to form a subsidiary or outsource parts of the business? where do you see your company in 5 years?"
I worked for a small land surveying company, that didnt pay a lot, but they were REALLY good in many other aspects and went above and beyond with regards to personal time in the office, vacations and other side benefits (free education) - but there was a catch: They had seasons of busy-ness ie. summer - where it was expected that you would not be taking vacations - I spent 6 weeks on the road one time .
i live in old England ,and Toodaloo used to be a quite common saying for goodbye , my dad used to say "So long" like John Wayne :} love these video sparring matches ,when HR was called the Personnel Dept :}
some years back had a major software upgrade that was to run for 1 to 1.5 year., and timeoff vacations and holidays were worked into the project timeline. People need downtime.
I retired from Corporate America at 62, last May, I just want to say I really appreciate what you are doing. Your videos are inspiring and you handle yourself like a champ, no drama, no disrespect just good solid reasoning and playing by the rules. I take my hat off to you and on bended knee say congratulations! You are awesome. Nice professional job on your part.
I love it so much! I dislike that word but I love that mug. My daughter bought me one for my birthday. She said people say "c u next Tuesday" as a sarcastic way of saying that.
Back in the old days in a certain state teachers were given business days by that state. The law said that admin could not make teachers give a reason and they could not punish them for taking off right before a holiday . I brought a copy of the law to school. Admin told teachers they would dock them if they took off then. After the first long weekend a few teachers took a day then. I did not. I was called in and told I would be docked for that day even though I was at school all day. I said they might not want to do that.
I had a manager who got so shitty one day because I was leaving early (i was feeling unwell and also 6 months pregnant, so didnt want to take chances). I let them know like an hour before I'd be going, and got several teams messages about how its a bad look and he "appreciated" more notice - my team and I had literally covered for him two days prior when he was too hungover to work, with no notice. I screenshotted the messages, sent them to our HR manager, along with a phone call for a verbal complaint, left and got stress leave for the rest of the week (me and my bub were fine). The next week, the manager is grovelling apologies and suddenly willing to "accommodate your needs" - I'd been asking to stop taking on new clients so i could finish my current ones for weeks as it was coming up to October, and I went on maternity leave in the January (right after Christmas shutdown). He now has a failing counselling practice after he left cause he didn't get what he wanted from higher up, has been banned from engaging with my organisation, and I have a new, respectful manager, and a healthy bub.
I had worked for a company for a year. I asked for my one week vacation. I was told, 'we can't get by if you take a week off, you'll have to take it later. End of 2nd year. "Hey, I need to take my two weeks of vacation time". "Oh, we're too busy for you to take time off for vacation." End of year three: "Hey I need to take my accumulated three weeks of vacation. "Three weeks?" "Yeah, the two weeks we were 'too busy' for me to take off, along with this year's vacation" "Oh, those two weeks you didn't take are GONE, buddy." "I hereby give you two weeks notice that I quit."
I have seen this in action. Colleagues holiday requests were being declined, as too many people were off - surprise in school holidays. One year as the holiday list was being sent around I stuck the Staff Handbook page on top which said you may choose your first two weeks between 1 May and 30 September. So lots did. When the management objected everyone said it’s in the Staff Handbook. They had to back down.
I had an encounter kind of like that with my supervisor. I resigned on the spot. When my supervisor's boss heard about my resignation, he tore it up and fired my supervisor. Nice to know there are a few sane people working for companies.
One of the managers at my work didn’t allow a colleague of mine to leave work so she could be at her father’s bedside in his final moments. It still angers me to this day. Her brother told her it was probably best as her dad’s passing wasn’t great (she was told that he looked terrible and that it was probably good for her to not see him in that state).
The manager you play is 99% authentic of most managers (if you could call them that)..micro managers who think they are above the employee and they actually try to save the company money like its there own, so do that to get bonuses and perks the companies dish out to managers.
@@audraelynnegrimmelhaussen8808 Somewhat true, the HR is there so the company is not SUED, if something like this happens and the company ends up with a lawsuit theyll want to know those involved so it ends up being not just the worker but even the HR who is paid so that wont happen ends up fired.
@citypavement I always plan for vacations on my team: we review your plan for how your responsibilities will be covered while you're out - who is doing which task while you're out, or which tasks will have to wait for you to get back. I validate that your list works, and we go over any "ad hoc" things where you are THE person to answer it are NOT going to get answered while you're out. And hopefully you've told your usual "customers" about your absence so they know they can't ask for it in that time span. Yes, needs may come up, and so I ask for a way to reach you while you're out (fyi, I have *never* called someone while they are out - I tell people it better be an actual emergency or I'm not calling, and they know I mean it). So that's one way you handle things responsibly, make sure you've got things covered, but making sure you WILL get a complete break when you want to be out. And nobody gets to say "but I NEED thar report!"
In the EU you are forced to take at least 10 consecutive business days off once per year, meaning 2 whole weeks of freedom. Ok, maybe not forced, but strongly encouraged. And denying without a strong reason ? he he he
Man if I hadn’t used my leave in three years my manager would be basically forcing me to go on holiday. The more leave balance you have the more your employer has to pay you out if you leave. In any case not possible where I work, we have a mandatory shut down period and even those that have to work during that time are given their two weeks at another time. That’s two out of the five weeks leave a year we’re entitled to
The only guaranteed days off i ever had in all the multiple jobs over the 50+ years (to date) of my working life were when the business was closed. Far more common were days forbidden to not show up. Once, i was 'let go' for not coming in when I was hospitalized for a miscarriage.
I took a day off last week, asked for it about one-two weeks before, conversation went more or less like this: "Hey, do we have a deadline on that day? Because I'd like to take a day off." "Yeah, sure, no problem. If there was a deadline we could have moved it to the next day." Loved it!
I had a co-worker apply for 3 weeks off for a European vacation. She did this 3-4 months in advance. Hadn't booked the trip yet because she wanted to get the time off approved. She waited and waited and waited to hear back but never did so she assumed it was approved. As she was training and making arrangements for while she was gone the boss asked her what she was doing...turns out he denied it, but forgot to tell her! She went on her trip and that man was reprimanded for failing to follow up. (Served him right, he thought he was better than everyone because was from a semi prestigious college.)
I love your videos. Love the way you use their rules against them. They remind me, and my wife, why we left corporate-ville and started our own business.
I took three days off in three years, correction, started to take three days off and they called me back in on day two and chewed me out, with expletives, for being gone at such an important time.
Here, If you didn't get to have your vacation as a result of some corporate behaviour, the company is obligated by law to compensate you for each day. They know this and they sometimes force people to have their vacation
I think it depends on the company and state in the US. In mine, they don't have to compensate, and my company has a "use it or lose it" policy on vacation hours that don't roll over (only up two 40 can roll into the next year)
this reminds me if when i had SURGERY booked for MONTHS and my old boss at my old cadetship job kept trying to book meetings with me that day and the rest day after it.... under the guise of "oh i keep forgetting that you have that because you're just ALWAYS here 😊!" like ok. you'll remember someone else's dental surgery and give them the WEEK off.... but the minute i have a colonoscopy booked for 3 months it's "whoops sorry. but can't you PLEASE just come in anyway, on the day.... to show your trustworthiness to the team bc you barely ever book leave???" absolutely the f*** not, thanks. leave me alone. also the time when i had leave booked the day after a concert (because i stayed overnight in a hotel in sydney)... but the minute work started i got called by this boss like "where are you???? there's no leave in your calendar that you've invited me to." on my end, though, when i got home to my work laptop, there WAS leave booked in my outlook calendar..... that she kept saying to me that it wasn't there..... but "take the day off anyway then, i guess. if you must 🙄". it turned out the next day when i went into work, that she'd called me bc they literally only had 3 people left in the back office (as per usual). everyone else was either doing fieldwork or sick or on their own late christmas break leave. so then i got the blame for "not arranging phone coverage well enough" and "not inviting me to your leave request" when it was literally in my goddamned calendar.... and they should've been able to cover my ONE DAY ABSENCE for me anyway, imo. so glad i left a place that couldn't manage for ish. not my problem that you apparently can't manage one day without your trainee on the damned phone, which i wasn't even meant to be doing 5 days a week by the end of that program. y'all need to get your ish together. NOT me.
