My hikoki (metabo) framing gun was one of the best tool purchases I have made. Fantastic bit of kit. Even with 60y/o seasoned Australian hardwood frames. No problem at all.
I bought the milwaukee about 6 months ago and love it. Yeah it is heavy but after continued use you get used to it. I love the no lag bump action and with the 5ah battery I've got all day action. With the 6ah ho bat I get 2 full days. I've had no issues of misfires or nails not sinking all the way. I would definitely get another milwaukee m18 framer
Out of all the reviews that I've seen between these two guns yours is the most fair and consistent the only reason I would prefer one or the other is 1 is home serviceable and the other is not more or less you can't get parts for one and you can the other and I'm not gonna say which that is for your own investigation
I have the Metabo and built my house and a few others with it. It stopped driving the nails home so I bought the $60 part to refill the air chamber and it works like new again but in the meantime I was using a corded air nailer and it was so much lighter and quieter but sometimes it was a pain to have that hose dragging around. So I plan to buy an air nailer to have the beauty of both worlds. Air nailers are so much cheaper and the double clip is amazing for sheeting and nailing beams together. I am looking at a palm nailer as well to help with joist hangers
I bought the metabo nr1890drs 18 months ago. Already trouble with it. I Builted a small 18 x30 extention to a house. Then I started a new house for myself. It started to work badly with nails longer than 2 1/2 inches. It can't sink longer nail all the way anymore and sometimes it shoot 2 nails at a time doing a strange noise. I think it will need to be refilled with air but I wonder why it did happen. I am retired professionel carpenter. A friend of mine bought the milwaulkee and builted only one house before it started doing the same thing (not sinking nails all the way). So it is great to use but reliability is not like my old hitachi framing air gun
Are those weights with batteries, and if so are the batteries equal capacity? From Milwaukee's website I determined their gun weighs 10.1 lbs., and from my scale a 5Ah battery weighs 01.6 lbs, making the total weight 11.7 lbs....
I have the DeWalt it only jams for me if I use paslode nails or softer nails for some reason but I’m thinking about getting the metabo cause I should be able to shoot all nails
As soon as I made this video, a week later my rafter hook came off and I started having more misfires. The rafter hook is easy to fix but the misfires I’m not totally sure what’s going on.
@@BuiltOnTheRock It needs a recharge. Get yourself one of those pressure regulators (forgot what is called) and hook it to air compressor. There's a video in youtube that walks you through on how to do it and what parts you need. You did say you had it for a few years, so that sort of explains why. The milwaukee will have the same issue, but you need to send that in for service because there's no way for you self charge the darn thing without voiding the warranty. All metabo hpt nailers can be recharged with the right parts.
I didn't realize this but according to the owner's manual the Metabo can't be stored under 40 degrees for the tool or battery. That's a problem for a guy leaving things out in the trailer or garage. The Metabo I bought from Lowe's was a clearance item that was probably a return that failed the first guy. It didn't work once for me and I returned it as well. I don't expect I would buy another Metabo item unless it was $10 at a yard sale.
You can buy an extended magazine for the Milwaukee. That one adds another nail strip. But When I was using a friend's nailer, I never had a problem with running out of nails with the single strip magazine. I simply looked down every one in a while and made sure there were enough nails in it, and then slipped another strip in it and kept on producing wall after wall. But I just bought my own, and unboxed it this evening. I made video and will post it to my channel shortly. Anyway, I am having issues driving the nails. Did you have that issue?
Sure. It’s just nice having fewer stops in between reloading but I haven’t had too much of an issue myself either. I haven’t had any issues driving nails. I was just nailing through LVL beams and had no problem sinking them.
I bought this nail gun as we were planning to renew all the fencing in our back garden. As this involved 19 double slatted fence panels, 10 of which needed to be cut down in size, we knew there would be a need for a great ru-vid.comUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt deal of re-stapling the wooden slats to the wooden framework. Each alteration required the re-stapling of 62 wooden slats with double staples. Prior to starting the work we ordered sufficient additional staples as per the instructions with the gun.The gun performed fantastically throughout the entire project with no jams of misfires. The adjustable power was excellent allowing the staples to be fired into the 8mm slats to the correct depth. For the price paid this was a bargain and it proved itself to be so reliable and versatile making an arduous task much quicker and professional. I cannot recommend this product highly enough and it will be used on many other projects in the future.
It is really hard to shoot yourself with one of these nail guns. However, I have seen one of my foreman a long time ago, have a nail go through one 2x4 and hit a knot in the wood, which made the nail bend slightly when it deflected off of the knot and stick him in the thumb. You know that first bone section just past the first knuckle. Luckily we were not using ring shanked nails at that time, so it was a lot easier to pull his hand away from the nail. It appeared to only embed in his thumb about 1/4 inch. Which was deep enough for him to get upset and ask me to drive him to the ER. I honestly don't remember the extent of his major/minor injuries, but I do remember what happened. Being in construction for while, I can tell you that there are a lot of other types of injuries on the job, but I have rarely ever seen anyone get hurt by a nail gun.
I haven’t looked into this at all for the Metabo, but Milwaukee’s extended magazine is supposed to be plug and play at least with the model I have reviewed here. I haven’t purchased this yet but would like to in the near future
It won't work. They have a different magazine receiver where it engages with the firing mechanism on the nailer. I've seen someone modify that so that both magazines fit but they never demonstrated if it actually worked and how it went long term so I'd have to say no based on what Milwaukee recommends and doesn't recommend for their products. I have both nailers and love both of them, but I use the 30 degree more because our developer supplies us with those nails.
@@darthslipknot91 I have toyed with the idea of buying the extended mag but haven’t. I was under the impression it would work but can’t speak from experience.
@@BuiltOnTheRock Save your money. I've heard all kinds of things but the safe bet is to just keep it with the same angle it's meant for. VCG Construction tested the theory out on their channel and show how they have different magazines that won't properly mate together. I would assume the firing pins may be specified for the nail angle they're meant for and would hate to ruin a $350+ nailer while voiding the warranty.
Metabo fell 4 feet and busted that little black battery receiver plate loose and the switch on it. Debating weather I’m going to get another metabo or try something else
Yeah I’m not a production framer and don’t claim to be for sure. If I was a production framer, I’m not sure if I’d want to lug these heavy battery powered units around vs air powered. I’d be curious to hear from production framers what they prefer for constant usage.
Metabo is a pice a garbage, is not working properly after a 50 times use , customer service said send them over you have to pay the shipping cost $30 dollars first time sentit back telling me the gun gas working manufacturing specification , call back sent it back make a you tube short video so they know the problem , they just sent it back , they said the same again I will call them to talk to a supervisor get it fix and sell it , milwakee so much easier they pay for everything, and better gun after all.
