Everyone seems to test this way and i agree not a good test. Variables like torque curve. Trigger delay can heavily skew results. And which trigger actually gets full pull first (very very rare you'll pull both exactly the same) Kinda like pickup truck tug of war. Pickup will pull a kenworth backwards but kenworth is the bigger stronger motor. Even 2 matched pickups back to back one person jumping the gun or the other just roasting tires will mess up results.
About 15 years ago, several of us helped a neighbor install a metal roof on his house. I took two of my Ryobi drill drivers with me. A friend was using his Porter Cable (maybe a Milwaukee?) and he accidentally set it on the steel roofing. It slid about 8 feet to the edge of the roof, then fell another 8' from the eave to the concrete driveway and broke into several pieces! He asked if he could use my second Ryobi and I jokingly said, "only if you don't drop it!" Sure enough, a few minutes later, he did the same thing to my driver. Short story? I'd already had it for about 5 years, and I'm still using it today! Pretty impressive, I'd say!
@@YourSavant Home Depot carries Milwaukee, Makita, Dewalt, Ridgid, Ryobi, and then cheap crap. Lowe's carries Dewalt, Metabo HPT (formerly Hitachi), Bosch, Kobalt, Craftsman, Porter Cable, and then cheap crap. Lowe's definitely has more availability of brands. Also, it's understood that Kobalt these days is actually superior to Ridgid and is advancing from the prosumer into professional tool lineup. I do wish that Lowe's would invest more space into Kobalt and less into Craftsman as I've never been a fan of their stuff. Though Home Depot has better pricing on some stuff. There are certain things you got to either store for.
The Drillmaster is great to have if you're building something and you need to drill different sized holes. I like having two or three drills with different size bits in them.
Not surprised Dewalt won but the Hercules did surprisingly well and when you take into account the price and the replacement guarantee you really can't go wrong. The only reason I wouldn't go with it is the Hercules line is pretty limited but if Harbor Freight extends the line I would definitely consider it next time I replace my tools.
I worked at a hardware store in the tool dept. 24 yrs ago. The best was DeWalt due to their impact proof cases. It looks like they're still #1. Milwaukee was #2 then.
The $20. HF drill has never failed to please for light duty household jobs. I also have a 12-year-old $19. HF recip. saw that I have not been able to kill & I have tried really hard several times.
I had an old Milwaukee 12v drill years ago. It survived many drops from 6' and 10' ladders. Sadly, technology made it obsolete. I then purchased an 18v DeWalt hammer drill, circular saw, recip saw and gooseneck light kit, with radio recharger. This purchase was made back in the late 90's or early 00's. I still have and use my DeWalt kit. I later added a 20v DeWalt impact screw gun and a DeWalt leaf blower. I also purchased an adapter that allows me to run my 18v tools with a 20v battery. Although, I am physically unable to work as an electrician anymore, I still use my DeWalt power tools at least once a week. I am a DeWalt fan for life.
Should have used cordless impact wrenches. Drills just make holes in things or run wire brushes to strip rust or drive screws. Even the cheapest drills do this well unless you're drilling 1/4" cast iron plate with a cobalt bit.
Those fat fucks by me are a joke. One employee will tell you they dont have it just so he doesnt have to get it off the top. These guys should be fired.
Absolutely love it. Seeing tests like this done help me make a better choice on what tools to buy when I start to buy tools for myself. Thank you and hope you have a wonderful and blessed weekend.
I have 2 of the cheap Drill Master drills from Harbor Freight I have been using for years. They came with the battery, charger, and a flashlight for around $24. Extra batteries are cheap too so I have extras charged up and ready to go. For most things I work on they are great. If I need something stronger I use other drills. If you overload the drill it uses up the battery fast.
Hey guys, just letting you know, the “speeds” aren’t really speeds, they are gears like on a car, or a truck. Imagine trying to drill a 1 1/2 hole on speed 2 being like trying to get a full transport to start from a stop in second gear. Gear 1 is for big holes and big torque Gear 2 is for small holes and less torque more speed
These guys really don't have a clue how the drills even work. Much less that they are gears not speeds. They just want views. That's it. Like all these little kids hoping to vecome youtube famous.
I would have to say that my original Milwaukee would have put all those drill's to shame. It had unbelievable torque. Unfortunately it got ran over by a fourwheel drive work platform when we were building a Walmart and broke the case. My boss bought me a new one and had the case replaced on the old one and I believe he still has it.
That's not how it works. Amp hour just means how long it can output an amp, each motor can be geared for torque or speed as well as drawing more amps as needed to increase power. Which is why the drill shut themselves off if too much current gets drawn, because it will damage the motor. The higher amperage is also less efficient because of heat loss. 18v is the total battery's volts they can output, they're added together because they're in series. You can have a 18v 1amp hour battery output more power than an 18v 3 amp hour battery, the 18v 1 amp hour would just run for less time. Amp hour is just a measurement of energy capacity, which effects run time, it has nothing to do with how powerful of a current can be drawn from it.
@@JohnDoe-eb3vg The more current is drawn from a battery cell the more the voltage of that cell sags. Higher amp hour battery packs have more cells in parallel so that less current is drawn from each cell for the same overall current draw from the pack. The end result is the higher amp hour packs maintain voltage better than the lower amp hour packs and thus provide greater power.
6:20 it’s not brushless. If it was it would be a selling point. Just cuz you see the motor doesn’t mean it’s brushless... wtf is that supposed to mean?
I know this video done two years ago but I like say I have dewalt drill it fell into my pool one day while working on deck. It sat pool good 30mins before fish it out three years later it still works and it’s not brushless
All those drills' casings would eventually break put under that high of a throw in the air. Depends how they land when they hit the ground. Not much of a test. I am more interested in the torque. Hook up the drills to a torque wrench and see which of them can torque the most. Then do a battery longevity test. Also test the heat output after the longevity test. I have had great success with DeWalt, Bosch and Milwaukee. I have on 20V DeWalt drill that smokes sometimes and another that has a stuck drill chuck. One of my Bosch drills has a crack forward/reverse switch but it is super powerful. I've had no problems with the Milwaukees.
Wife and I been letting you auto play today man , wife said watching the older ones vs newer ones , " hairs getting little long there" lol , her " he looks good though " me " easy now " lol
Stan, you were smart not doing this at your place. Those LiI batteries were probably damaged and will probably start on fire. If they do, you can do a fire extinguisher test.
I have only used ridged recently and the drills will break your wrist if you aren't paying attention. The impact drivers are torque little things too. And the amp hours on the batteries does matter Ridged has a 2, 3, 4, 6, and I think an 8 don't quote me on that. But the higher the amp hour yes longer life but it has more torque than the smaller ones. The power on the drill is noticeable and the big one we use is the cordless sawzal from Ridged. There is no comparison between the lower amp hour battery to the higher ones.
I'm a contractor I travel all over the US installing aluminum canopies. Ridge feels good. But the batteries go out alot faster. We tried Dewalts and their ok. But I run into the same thing. I have to buy new batteries. By far the longest lasting drilling /impacts we use makita. I'm buying batteries 1x per yr. And some I've had longer than that.. compared to the Ridge Dewalt Milwaukee where I'm buying a set of batteries every 3 months
Wranglerstar put 2x4s on the bench to help hold the drills in place cause they were super torquey and turned on him like they did for you. Also the Hercules line is gunning for dewalt. Bauer is more mid grade.
For the home used I can see them trying to compete. But for industrial use. The cordless tool line is way too big for any competing. I don't see them coming out with a chop saw or a competitive chainsaw
Working in construction and working in a building with an elevator I was working on the very top of the elevator and milwaukee m12 surge impact fell from the top of the elevator down 7 floors to the pit of the elevator shaft and still works like a champion
Great video! I would have love to see this test done with Milwaukee vs Dewalt vs Makita. I personally use Milwaukee but judging from this torture test Dewalt is probably as good quality at a better bargain. Makita has to be good, because that’s what most rental places rent out for battery powered power tools.
Shawnsullivan7 rent battery tools ?? Majors sells boatloads to them marked down to make U think that !! Is way priced at stores ! Milwaukee is the same tool ? DeWalt is far Superior, for value n dependability ! 40 years in the trade ! Have bought them ALL ! But Milwaukee corded n DeWalt corded is all I buy ! Still have Supersawsalls w/Allen wrench blade change !!😂-but a thought ! Porter cable specialty tools ! Door planers,full mortise door boring hugs, routers,biscuit joiners !! are unstoppable !! Still have 2-doorplaners 30-35 years old ! NOT anything like planers they sell now ! Special “Door Planers ! Same cords on them !! ❤️❤️🙏🙏👍🏼🎶🎶🇨🇱🖖🖖🖖 Merry CHRISTmas !
10:36 you realize that 18 and 20 volt batteries are the same thing, right? The only difference is marketing. They’re both made from 5 (or 10, depending) 18650 cells. Read the fine print. 20v max (at no load). 18v is literally the same thing. 3.7v cells x 5. At full charge, (with no load) the cells have about 4 volts, so they just claim 20v because it sounds better. You can look it up, or you can just pop a couple of batteries open and see what I mean Also, this only applies to Lithium. NiCad cells have different voltage ratings.
I have three of HF 20.00 drills and I have put up four large decks I have drilled cement block to install safety rails and for the money it doesn’t owe me anything been over five years with them and just now had to replace the battery on one I use them and abuse them every day love these drills
Back in 01 I was doing a project at my sister's place and dropped my black and Decker drill driver off a sawhorse, it broke and the company refused to replace it because I was working on something for my sister instead of a personal project. Haven't bought anything from that brand since.
The extended warrantee and no questions asked is why harbor freight is better. I have gotten 3 Bauer Impacts replaces and I just have to buy the new extended warrantee For 2 years. I just got a new one two weeks ago become the lights were burned out/but working. The new Bauer impact is redesigned and much nicer feel to it also. 17$ I wanna say and I got the new battery with it also.
I bought the DrillBastard when my Porter was stolen for a quick job, and it wasn't even good enough for a toy. However, I have 5 of their onsale angle grinders with different wheels on in my shop because for $10-15, they just do short duties. The stop pins shear easy.
The fact that yuns did these torture tests on affordable homeowners range tools is awesome! Everyone does best vs best or most expensive vs super expensive! Not this one Great video!
You can't test them all, but Porter Cable would have been interesting. Price point. Power. Durablity. Comfort. Porter Cable is worth every cent I have paid. Just saying.
I have real life factory experience with these. We use DeWalt. We tried everything including having factory reps from Milwaukee and Mikita out to our plant. The guys on the assembly table laughed them both out of the plant! In everyday everything, durability, battery life, recharge speed, and anything else you can think of in the most demanding environment, DeWalt out does every other brand no contest! In both drills and impact drivers. Been there, seen that!
What do,you use them for in factory, and for how long. Why not go corded if at static location or are y’all moving around . Just curious cause dewalt cost $
@@CallsItLikeISeizeIts We have some corded at static single use stations. They're really not practical here. Too much movement of both people and product. We even tried drops from the ceiling. It slowed them down too much. But no other brand could keep up with DeWalt!
18V and 20V Lithium batteries offer the same voltage. 18V is nominal, 20V is peak...confusion brought to you by marketing departments. (Some tools may not allow the full 20V, but more likely the controllers are set the same 18V vs 20v, tell if I'm wrong here)
Did not see if you unwrapped the lead for the recharger. Little tip always uncoil any power lead as it creates a hot spot in lead. May cause fire if left as is. Power leads are worse because of extra length and thickness of copper wiring. Aussie Jeff.
Stan one test you 3 should do is a cold weather test on another round of drills and include ryobi im interested to see if they have upped there game from the days of the 9.6 volt days and I'd be interested in testing Milwaukee tools on the cold weather testing like having a mid torque impact in a trunk of a car with the 5/9/12 amp hour batteries to see if after x number days in a cold trunk if they still work to change a tire
Are people not aware that 20v and 18v tools are actually the same voltage. 18v is the nominal voltage and 20v is the max charge. These batteries are made up of 18650 cells that have a nominal voltage of 3.7 volts, but when fully charged show 4.2volts. Bonus fact, anyone running lithium ion tools in the 18v nominal range ( this includes 20v ) is paying royalties to Milwaukee, who owns the patent on it. All of the sudden kobalts choice to go with a 24v tool makes a lot of sense
I'd love to see a testing of the new atomic 12volt DeWalt driver! My 12v Max has surprised us on the job site a few times, not overwhelmingly though when I mixed tile mud with it, it had began to get warm by the time I had finished it but it saved the day, if I ever used it for that again then I'd just mix smaller batches to lighten the load on it.
Going drill to drill, you are not going to get consistent trigger pulls. If the Dewalt starts first, even by a quarter second, the momentum is going to blow by the Rigid, and vice versa when the Rigid kicks in just a bit before the Dewalt.
A few years ago I talked to a dewalt rep. and he told me during a big fall the battery is made specifically for the battery to come off. I can't remember the reasons exactly but one I remember was a safety spec so a fire wouldn't start of there was a short.
Great video guys! How come u didn't put Ryobi into this budget end tool mix? I love my Hercules tools & Harbor Freight in general for most my handyman projects. Heck, even my dads old blue Ryobi is wayyyy better than the new neon ones I got. Hes dropped that thing off many high points & built his whole house & still uses it. Lol Ryobi & Milwaukee are made under TTI so ripping apart the insides after these tests would be cool to compare. Black & Decker makes Porter Cable & DeWalt so adding Porter would be cool too. My uncle loves Porter. I kinda hate that DeWalt did so well honestly. Makita is only Makita so they are in there own platform like Bosch I guess. Never used them. Rigid is under Emerson but made for Home Depot so comparing Kobalt by Lowes would be cool. I prefer Lowes over Home Depot any day & Menards stuff is growing on me.
*Fact: Dewalt, for the most part, is cheaper. (In more ways then one). *Fact: Dewalt, does NOT lead in production design. Latest example, Packout. Pretty sure Dewalt removed the Stanley decal and placed the Dewalt decal in its place. (In no way do I call that “production design”). Either way, people like what they like. But facts are facts buddy!!
At less than half the price are we sure Hercules didn’t win? But. That toss test makes it clear why Dewalt is so expensive. However, I’m never going to be reattaching skids to a helicopter while it’s hovering 50-100 feet off the ground so I’d save the money and get a Hercules. Especially after getting the 2 year plan
I actually like my craftsman 20v impact driver. Would ha e liked to se that and Milwaukee in the mix. I know craftsman is more of a homeowners thing but it feels good.
Put a piece of wood on the table on each side of the batteries on both drills and then do the test for the drills don't torque out you guys are crazy doing that that way you don't break your wrist
