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@fredschirrmacher1633
@fredschirrmacher1633 2 года назад
The in-process asides carry the accumulated wisdom of a lifetime. Thank you
@firemedicseven
@firemedicseven 5 лет назад
I constantly fascinated by the content you bring Mr. Tom. Thank you. Keep it up.
@jesusjcrrotary9271
@jesusjcrrotary9271 5 лет назад
That color really takes me back. The inside of the cab of our M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System. I’m sure I have some in my lungs somewhere from countless hours spent in one.
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball 5 лет назад
2 cups of coffee and my breakfast....enjoyed the visit and your discussion....may drop a seagull bid with no shipping cost
@63256325N
@63256325N 5 лет назад
I really appreciate your attention to detail and your patience on the projects you choose. Nicely done. Thanks for the video. 👍
@geraldrourke5499
@geraldrourke5499 4 года назад
Hi Tom! I love fixing up these old squares! I have several on hand. I go all over them using my new MITSUI surface grinder. Great video.
@robertcorrie6737
@robertcorrie6737 5 лет назад
Great re-work they turned out beautiful. I hope they go to a deserving and appreciating person. Thanks for sharing.
@andreturnbull1259
@andreturnbull1259 5 лет назад
A man who loves tools, shall be unconditionally admitted to heaven. Great video Tom.
@udowillkomm1173
@udowillkomm1173 5 лет назад
Thx, that´s my ticket, lol
@markgrevatt4867
@markgrevatt4867 4 года назад
I love the colour choice you chose Tom on the machinist squares Turned out beautiful job.
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop
@AmateurRedneckWorkshop 5 лет назад
Really enjoyed the video. I think you did as much work restoring these as it would have taken to make them in the first place.
@qUICK3558
@qUICK3558 5 лет назад
Love how you respect these old tools and there insight on how they might have been made. Think more people should think like you!
@wbogardu
@wbogardu 5 лет назад
You’ve been on a hot streak lately, been loving all your videos.
@Sharklops
@Sharklops 4 года назад
That CorrosionX is a fantastic product and it actually works really great on electronics
@mike-carrigan
@mike-carrigan 5 лет назад
Hey Tom, great getting to see the thought for odd setups, I'll be starting learning the grinder at work soon. Since you were talking on squarness I would love to see a follow-up on your hand made composite square master. I had to engine turn a "proof of concept" part for SpaceX
@bcbloc02
@bcbloc02 5 лет назад
The center in that one makes me consider cylindrical grinding on that part, make it kind of a cylinder square combo. Also you should be able to get all 4 sides parrallel and straight pretty easy that way.
@josepheirman4987
@josepheirman4987 5 лет назад
I'm thinking it might be from a dividing head.
@wktodd
@wktodd 5 лет назад
re: why the centre. I'd guess the fluting and maybe the squaring was done on horizontal mill and dividing head with one end supported with a tailstock.
@MrSleazey
@MrSleazey 5 лет назад
Hey Tom, nice restoration job! And I fully agree with NOT "removing the spirit from the tool". Some person, someone that loved their tools and their profession, made that. Those marks are their fingerprints on the tool.
@ROBRENZ
@ROBRENZ 5 лет назад
Nice work Tom! ATB, Robin
@rlsimpso
@rlsimpso 5 лет назад
I really enjoyed this long video. I have not seen a holder for the abrasive sticks like that before.
@billdlv
@billdlv 5 лет назад
Great job Tom👍👍. I like the design of the small adjustable one.
@craigulatorOne
@craigulatorOne 5 лет назад
Fantastic restoration Tom!
@motor1395
@motor1395 5 лет назад
Nicely done Tom. Thanks for sharing.
@sharkrivermachine
@sharkrivermachine 5 лет назад
Like the green, very nice project.
@robbourns2831
@robbourns2831 5 лет назад
perfect work as usual tom! love the channel, i learn something every time!
@JohnHawkins92
@JohnHawkins92 5 лет назад
You do the coolest stuff Tom!
@RRINTHESHOP
@RRINTHESHOP 5 лет назад
They look great, nice job.
@sickandtiredofcomplaining6574
@sickandtiredofcomplaining6574 5 лет назад
Love that sea foam color
@RookieLock
@RookieLock 5 лет назад
Man I love jeweling ! I gotta give that a try one of these days..
@ActiveAtom
@ActiveAtom 5 лет назад
Way to go Tom great show we are watching now commenting as we are watching here. Chance to own a piece of the great products, this is going to be really nice. Lance & Patrick.
@matthewsykes4814
@matthewsykes4814 5 лет назад
I like the old ways better, more challenging and rewarding to me plus you learn a lot more
@dangunit69
@dangunit69 4 года назад
I agree with the idea of the center being added for tailstock support while milling the grooves, but in addition I would add that the center would be useful in practice during fabrication and fixture/assembly alignment. If you had a block with matching cross-section dimensions of the square column and a hole in the middle to attach a fitted plumb line, then you could line up edges/corners/features over fairly large distances by aligning the plumb with the centerhole.
@keefjunior4061
@keefjunior4061 3 года назад
Liquid love all over the place!
@pearcemachineshop5200
@pearcemachineshop5200 5 лет назад
Restoration videos are not my thing normally, but I really enjoyed that your attention to detail and thought process are truly inspiring, thanks for a great watch. Al.
@ExtantFrodo2
@ExtantFrodo2 4 года назад
I think you could make the bigger square adjustable by placing an appropriately sized ball bearing between the two screws to act as a pivot point. Also what would you think of a similar style square using a drill rod for the upright and make it adjustable in the way I mentioned above? I expect that it would clamp true to the V groove and provide a good reference even though you couldn't scribe with one edge. Your thoughts?
@Throughthebulkhead
@Throughthebulkhead 5 лет назад
Inspiring work Tom.
@mkalb4g63
@mkalb4g63 5 лет назад
Mmm Saturday morning soufflé. Thanks Tom.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 5 лет назад
Nice squares .
@duobob
@duobob 5 лет назад
Very nice work, Tom! Is your current grinder a B&S Micromaster? I have that same B&S mag chuck, but I do not have the diamond nib attachment on the left end -- yet, but will soon... Great idea, keeps it handy for immediate use, yet completely out of the way. I had not seen anything like that before, well worth the price of admission.
@CraigRig1
@CraigRig1 5 лет назад
"Traverse across the wheel so I don't cause a groove in the wheel". Thank you I never thought of that!
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop 5 лет назад
Very cool. Nice ebay find and restore !
@geraldrourke5499
@geraldrourke5499 4 года назад
Hello Tom What did you get out of your squares? They were very nicely done! I hope it went well for you!
@kevinreardon2558
@kevinreardon2558 5 лет назад
Good to hear the team music back.
@Smallathe
@Smallathe 5 лет назад
Awesome! I'm guessing it's well out of my price range (would LOVE to support... but...) Anyway - lovely work of precision art and tool... as usual... :)
@bensthingsthoughts
@bensthingsthoughts 5 лет назад
20 $ is not cheap... you should see the second hand market in Switzerland, I bought a tiny Jacquot watchmakers lathe for 10$ (just the brass it is made of cost at least 10 time this). So many people sell grand-dad's tools without a clue of what its worth. Someone's junk is often treasure to my eyes ! Love the video by the way !
@qp2036
@qp2036 2 года назад
Wish i lived in switzerland..
@lkw6640
@lkw6640 5 лет назад
Sea foam green was also used in the Apollo spacecrafts' interior
@johnm840
@johnm840 3 года назад
Nice Restore project.
@geraldrourke5499
@geraldrourke5499 4 года назад
NICE! You use a hermann Schmidt 5" angle plate! I use their MSB 6x6 or the MSB 4x4 i just love them!
@carneeki
@carneeki 5 лет назад
I love some of the tool names like that baby hammer, "Dinkus McGee" :D Great looking tools Tom!
@wktodd
@wktodd 5 лет назад
jewelling always looks better if each row is in the same direction.
@capnthepeafarmer
@capnthepeafarmer 5 лет назад
I love these little weekend projects.
@TraditionalToolworks
@TraditionalToolworks 5 лет назад
Trivia: seafoam green was a stock auto color during the 40s, 50s and 60s. Fender guitars used stock auto colors for their custom color guitars and basses, and seafoam green was one of the more desirable colors. One of the color combinations Chevy used in '46 was seafoam green and volunteer green (very dark green) fenders. seafoam green and white was more common, 'vettes, pickups, even Ramblers and Land Rovers used it. Good choice of color, I didn't know they used it inside tanks...not a military guy myself, but knew the color from cars and guitars. :) EDIT: had an after thought...could you use the center in the end on a mill or lathe to use in aligning the mill head or checking the tailstock alignment? It must have a purpose, it seems odd that such a nice tool would be left with a machining wart, so it must have a purpose.🤔
@aserta
@aserta 5 лет назад
I have a bunch of those reduced shank (??, is that what you'd call them?) Allen wrenches setup with a square drive. Even for regular heads, when you want to put the whale on top of them, there's nothing quite like it. Even my old faithfuls, a Stanley set that i bought many years ago can't compare.
@forrestaddy9644
@forrestaddy9644 5 лет назад
That fluted beam square may not be adjustable but it can be tweaked. How good are you with a slip stone?
@aus71383
@aus71383 5 лет назад
Seafoam Green is also the color used to indicate military ordnance items containing Phosphorous - whether red or white. Usually there will be a yellow stripe indicating HE/high explosive filler as well for a burster component.
@gasparini76
@gasparini76 5 лет назад
Tom, is funny when you laugh. Thanks for another video. cheers
@steveg5223
@steveg5223 5 лет назад
The circular pattern is called perlage. It’s used on high end watch movements. Engine turning is done on a special lathe called a rose engine.
@xenonram
@xenonram 5 лет назад
It's called any of the above. Perlée, engine turning, jeweling, etc.
@gertskjlstrup1804
@gertskjlstrup1804 5 лет назад
very very nice work Tom. would love to own them but Danish custom and shipping cost an arm and a leg.
@juliejones8785
@juliejones8785 5 лет назад
Wow! Better than new.
@rldoyle5705
@rldoyle5705 5 лет назад
good projects enjoyed thanks for your time
@ricko5123
@ricko5123 2 года назад
This is 2 years ago and rewatching anyway Tom and I can't see the depth of the hole at the end but I would think if it's deep enough it would be for a small scribe...Ricko
@camillosteuss
@camillosteuss Год назад
Shouldn`t you have set the vblock diagonally on the flat mag chuck in that vmag clamp, as to present the wheel with a wider area that would reduce the grooving of the wheel? Traversing all the way merely smooths out the grove or makes more of them, depending on the wheel step-over per reciprocation... I mean, im no master grinder, i just recently picked up a s.g. in need of restoration, so my experience with s.g. is standing before her, marveling at artwork that is such a machine... But i have spent last 15 years in love with and learning about machines, so i do have some heavy theory foundations, and this seems to contradict every book approach to thin area grinding i have seen... Apart from that, that s.g. is a beauty and so is the finish she produces, along with the rest of the equipment you displayed... Some really nice stuff...
@richb1334
@richb1334 5 лет назад
Hi i watched some of your shows and see that you have a full shop in the back ground .The question is ,this a hobby or you use this shop to do jobs for a business ? You do nice work showing the next future how something is made . There are less people that know this trade of machine shops in this country . Just keep up the good work .
@xenonram
@xenonram 5 лет назад
Watch his UC Berkeley tour on NYC CNC. I believe he talks about what he does on that. (Although it's been years since I've watched it.) But his home shop is for hobby mostly.
@idriwzrd
@idriwzrd 4 года назад
New drinking game: take a shot every time Ox asks, 'right?'.
@AnanusBananus
@AnanusBananus 4 года назад
My liver would not take that game..
@ad2309
@ad2309 5 лет назад
Cool project.
@keefjunior4061
@keefjunior4061 3 года назад
You using Cratex for the engine turning?
@VirtualJMills
@VirtualJMills 5 лет назад
The teaser photo made it look like "square and molded leather sheath", which would have been cool too :-)
@xenonram
@xenonram 5 лет назад
I thought it was phenolic or micarta.
@josephwilson6651
@josephwilson6651 5 лет назад
Another OxTool classic restoration. I was wondering what the nozzle of the coolant delivery system was originally, fluid delivery for a precision piece of lab equipment ?
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 5 лет назад
Hi Joseph, Got that design from Robin Renzetti. Cheers, Tom
@robmckennie4203
@robmckennie4203 5 лет назад
Pretty sure the tool winding up doesn't take away any torque? The torque you put in is what you get out, no work is being done in the middle
@Rich-on6fe
@Rich-on6fe 5 лет назад
Agree. You do store up some energy in winding up the shaft - energy that isn't going to do anything useful but takes effort and tells your wrist that you're trying hard when in effect it's kinda cushioning the effect of your efforts. If you calibrate your screw-breaking effort in terms of: 'I'm gonna swing on it like this and experience tells me it should come loose', then the winding-up will probably reduce the torsional force you exert. Certainly will if you're hitting the wrench with a hammer - or palm of your hand.
@davidbrayton1143
@davidbrayton1143 5 лет назад
I’ve always wondered about this. I don’t think the amount of windup ‘takes away’ from the amount of torque that is transmitted to the bolt. The shaft of the screwdriver is behaving just like a simple spring. The amount of windup is directly proportional to the torque applied x the spring constant. The difference between ‘a lot’ of windup and a ‘little bit’ of windup at the same torque is directly a function of the stiffness of the screwdriver i.e. the spring constant.
@Rich-on6fe
@Rich-on6fe 5 лет назад
@@davidbrayton1143 You're right the wind-up doesn't change the fact that the torsional force is the same at each end of a shaft. But consider that when we swing on a tool we are usually to some degree acting like a hammer rather than a careful torque wrench - we're performing a dynamic, moving action on the tool and just as a spring will reduce the effect of a hammer blow, (imagine a thick sheet of rubber over the nail head) the shaft windup will probably affect the amount of torque that we apply if we're not used to using a springy tool. Certainly does reduce the effect of an impact wrench of you stick an extension in between the power tool and the socket. So I think the effect is to screw with the calibration of your wrist as you turn the tool. Edit: come to think of it, we're just so completely accustomed to stiff tools that springy ones cause us to overestimate the degree to which we're turning the fastener. We equate motion of the handle with motion of the fastener and tightness of the fastener. So if you use a 'joke' tool that breaks one of those relationships, it's that that breaks the calibration of the wrist.
@TheMetalButcher
@TheMetalButcher 5 лет назад
Correct for wrenches. Impacts certainly notice it. I'm surprised Tom goofed that.
@xenonram
@xenonram 5 лет назад
I think by "losing torque" he meant that you stop turning because it feels like something is going to break/strip.
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 5 лет назад
The green color or slight variation of the color has been used for shop machines and the inside of locomotive cabs, cabooses, and common areas of passenger cars for years because it is easily cleaned and does not show dirt, oil, grease, and grime as readily as other colors.
@jimharris4013
@jimharris4013 5 лет назад
Some good Ox meat on Saturday morning. Thanks Tom.
@geraldrourke5499
@geraldrourke5499 4 года назад
You need a good MAGNA-SINE I like OMER-ROBBINS but also have Hermann Schmidts on hand. They work great for doing just this!!!
@whatevernamegoeshere3644
@whatevernamegoeshere3644 4 года назад
5:10 if you rotate a skewed regular shape like a parallelogram 180°, then it will still be identical. If you flip it around the perpendicular axis, you can do it with an even sided trapezoid too. You need both rotations for proof
@imagineaworld
@imagineaworld 5 лет назад
Awsome!! Thanks for the upload!
@blakewerner4368
@blakewerner4368 5 лет назад
i haven't seen pea green in more than a few decades, thanx.....i think
@vendter
@vendter 5 лет назад
From what I have read, engine turning is done on a lathe. What you did is called spotting (like the cowl on the Spirit of St. Lewis).
@turningpoint6643
@turningpoint6643 5 лет назад
Actually engine turning, jeweling, etc are the correct and accepted terms. Engine turning seems to be used the most for non gun parts like on automotive and aircraft, and the jeweling term used more by gunsmiths and gun owners. Lathes were once commonly referred to as engine lathes and turning can obviously be done on them. I believe the engine lathe term was once used more often to describe that a power driven lathe was being referred to and not a foot or bow powered type of lathe. Since those types are now so rare we've just shortened it to lathe today. But proper engine turning or jeweling is easiest done with a vertical spindle like a drill press or mill. A lathe could be used if the part to be engine turned was set up much like it would be for milling in a lathe. Double check with Google and you'll find engine turning is quite correct. Any reference to the Spirit of St. Louis and it's cowl that I've read always calls it engine turning.
@vendter
@vendter 5 лет назад
@@turningpoint6643 Engine turning was typically done with a Rose engine lathe: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_engine_lathe The most common use that I know of was in watches, both on the watch plates and case. With CNC you can do it with a vertical mill. Just because most people called the pattern on the Spirit of St. Louis engine turning does not make it correct. Using a vertical spindle is definitely spotting unless there is some cam system moving the spindle around the vertical axis.
@xenonram
@xenonram 5 лет назад
@@vendter the pattern is called engine turning, regardless of how it's performed. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_turning?wprov=sfla1 it's also called jeweling or perlée.
@neilpenny5475
@neilpenny5475 4 года назад
I think keeping a couple of dings etc that doesn't affect performance is the way to go. Preserve the character of the piece.
@SuperAWaC
@SuperAWaC 5 лет назад
Tom- know any other apron makers? The leather guy that made yours doesn't seem interested in doing them any more. My apprenticeship is drawing to a close, and I need to start looking the part.
@billdlv
@billdlv 5 лет назад
If you go back a ways in his videos he talks about the apron he wore before, which was one by Ben Davis with some modifications. It's what I ended up with since I ran into your same problem. It lasted 3 years. I am now trying one from Duluth trading company.
@SuperAWaC
@SuperAWaC 5 лет назад
@@billdlv I am currently using the Ben Davis apron. It's fine, but not perfect.
@aserta
@aserta 5 лет назад
You could make your own, it's not entirely difficult or rocket science and really, at the end of the day, aside from the old saying "want something done right...", you're the best qualified person to make your best fitment. If you go down that path, two pieces of advice, get a good leather sewing needle set, waxed line, and punch. Those are your bread and butter. Second, watch a few videos of people making leather bags (of all things) this will teach you all you need to know about an apron's make. Just my 2 cents on it.
@SuperAWaC
@SuperAWaC 5 лет назад
@@aserta I don't have time to learn to leatherwork, and I am not interested. I spend all my time in the shop. I'd rather pay an expert to do it for me.
@xenonram
@xenonram 5 лет назад
Adam just recently had an apron made for him. Check out that maker. Or check Etsy or Instagram for leather workers. There are a million talented people out there.
@mailbalazstomori
@mailbalazstomori 5 лет назад
Hy Tom! Been a long time fan and I'm pretty sure you know AvE so please look at the pattern on the lap and hear what you say at 58:47 :) LoL! Pretty awesome job!
@stanervin6108
@stanervin6108 5 лет назад
We usually just call the patterning done with a kratex on a mill simply "bright eye".
@jeremydoblinger3609
@jeremydoblinger3609 3 года назад
Metrology is a dark rabbit hole.. guys at work are like ohh thats square or flat this and that and Im like yea kind of lol.. you get my drift lol
@krazziee2000
@krazziee2000 5 лет назад
very nice , thanks for the video //
@bobjimenez4464
@bobjimenez4464 4 года назад
I use Maas cleaning paste to restore straight razors. Give it a try
@MrJacksaun
@MrJacksaun 5 лет назад
In the military that call it zinc oxide, it's been around since World War II. It was mostly used in the interior of aircraft. But zinc oxide is a bit brighter.
@menow.
@menow. 5 лет назад
Hmm... you didn't regrind that knife-edge?
@AnanusBananus
@AnanusBananus 4 года назад
"I'm going To do a little bottom lap, because... I can." Tom do you like lap dances?
@moehoward01
@moehoward01 4 года назад
Very familiar with the tool bug. Wife won't let him in the house.
@TrevorDennis100
@TrevorDennis100 5 лет назад
How would you test or calibrate a square without a master square?
@oxtoolco
@oxtoolco 5 лет назад
Hi Trevor, I have a video out there somewhere on how you can create a master square reference without measuring tools. You will still need a flat plane like a surface plate. Cheers, Tom
@markfoggy9933
@markfoggy9933 5 лет назад
Shaped Knurling :) WOW
@shartingkhumbubbles7169
@shartingkhumbubbles7169 5 лет назад
I love Toms knowledge and videos He is way smarter than your average bear . I wished however he would edit out all the " um ahhs" they get annoying after awhile .
@billiondollardan
@billiondollardan 5 лет назад
how similar is a machinist to a mechanical engineer? what are the differences?
@bernwoon912
@bernwoon912 5 лет назад
Machinists are like the tires on your car, and a mechanical engineer is the driver. The car wont drive without both.
@bernwoon912
@bernwoon912 5 лет назад
And as people like Tom show, sometimes you can wear both hats
@xenonram
@xenonram 5 лет назад
They're completely different. Worlds apart.
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 5 лет назад
Technically a machinist is a person who shapes parts designed by a mechanical engineer. A machinist is a person who makes or shapes parts and a mechanical engineer is a person who designs machines or parts of machines. Brian Block is a mechanical engineer with a MS or Master of Science Degree and also a machinist.
@gusmcgussy3299
@gusmcgussy3299 5 лет назад
A machinist is the guy who actually makes what the engineer designed work.... Machinists....the good ones anyway will out design engineers any day of the week.....
@excavateboy
@excavateboy 5 лет назад
I worried that my brown and sharp no2 was leaking oil from the spindle. Sorry to say that I'm glad yours is too lol
@PaulSteMarie
@PaulSteMarie 5 лет назад
That little ball peen hammer with the long skinny head is just too cute for words. Also, that surface grinder fixture would make Don Bailey @SuburbanTool jealous. Are those toe clamps ground?
@JP-kk5vw
@JP-kk5vw 5 лет назад
I worked with a grinder for 16 years. He made all his fixtures and tooling on the surface grinder. You could count on one hand how many times you saw him on the Bridgeport. And he would be bullshit using it! 😀
@Grove332
@Grove332 5 лет назад
What's that turquoise tape?
@Grove332
@Grove332 5 лет назад
I meant the see-trough one.
@MÆTT_87
@MÆTT_87 5 лет назад
@@Grove332 Looks like Powder coating tape
@crisp4085
@crisp4085 4 года назад
The centre was probably used when he ground it because i would probably be easier to put it in a rotary table of sorts and do all 4 sides of the square
@HEADDYNAMICS
@HEADDYNAMICS 5 лет назад
What wheel are you using on your grinder Tom? That finish is incredible.
@hughmac13
@hughmac13 5 лет назад
Looks like a Norton 32AA60-IVTR.
@furkanozturk5015
@furkanozturk5015 4 года назад
flee market has every tool
@nraynaud
@nraynaud 5 лет назад
Thank you for showing those basic things, before youtube, you had to spend some time in apprenticeship with a demeaning old fart to learn this kind of things. And you had to make it your job.
@johnhbox7767
@johnhbox7767 4 года назад
The little square looks like a gun ?
@TheRealFOSFOR
@TheRealFOSFOR 5 лет назад
I still think it would be better if the surface grinder wheel was on an angle to the bed motion. Then it would not matter if the wheel had a groove in it, nor would it ever build up grooves.
@xenonram
@xenonram 5 лет назад
I'm sure you can think of why it's better to cock the part diagonal rather than the wheel being permanently canted.
@TheRealFOSFOR
@TheRealFOSFOR 5 лет назад
@@xenonram Nah. Would not make any difference. The wheel must be angled. Of course this only works for surface grinding and not for sides. So I guess it has to be two separate machines or some sort of a very precise angle adjustment of the wheel axis.
@gusmcgussy3299
@gusmcgussy3299 5 лет назад
It would load up the spindle bearings in a direction they are not meant to be loaded...
@TheRealFOSFOR
@TheRealFOSFOR 5 лет назад
@@gusmcgussy3299 hardly. very minute side pressure.
@MM7782
@MM7782 5 лет назад
maybe the red paint on the square means "Attention not true 90" possibly a draft angle is calibrated in it ...
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