Toontrack Legacy of Rock SDX by Eddie Kramer - In-depth Review 

Great Mike! Seriously considering this one so tnx for the quickest review ever made!!!

I really appreciate your insightful reviews.

Was waiting for your video to drop. Great review as usual Mike. I think this Rock SDX just made my decision between Decades and Hansa more complicated. What a great problem to have.

Kudos Mike, on all of the great insights that you share with the rest of us!! As a fellow drummer, ToonTrack had been on my radar for quite a while, but your detailed reviews on the "genius goodies" provide in these sound packs and presets, allowed me to get off the fence and make a purchase. No regrets, and No more bad sounding drum tracks...thanks, bro

This was quite interesting. Nice review 👍

Thanks for making this excellent review of the Legacy of Rock SDX. It certainly nails the drum sound of my favorite 60's and 70's rock kits. It also looks like a good candidate for playing live.

Thank you so much for sharing this beautiful SDX pack review Mike, your reviews are always really going in depth. I know that that must be a lot of work. I do like this SDX pack a lot. Hope you're doing well Mike. Greetings from a small village called Gorssel my dear friend 🍺👊👍😎

Thanks Mike it sounds very good. Always great reviews!

This series is SICK! Superb sound bro

Legacy of Rock has been successfully registered ;) ! Now Downloading... Looking forward to it now. As always, great review Mike, helped a lot !

Thanks Mike, awesome review and demo! Actually this library seems to be what I've been waiting for over the years since getting the fantastic soundig "Custom & Vintage SDX" that (soundwise) has allways been my favorite. I own almost all Toontrack SDXs (which is total overkill, but pure joy, anyway), all are insanely good sounding , BUT I very, very often ended up using the C&V because its sound and charakter fits my needs so perfectly! Now my beloved C&V SDX seems to have met its successor!

Yes! Was eagerly waiting for a video about this SDX!

Hi Mike, great great review! You are my go to for the ezx and sdx reviews. I do a lot of recording in different studios and I really think you have a good point in the use of these kits not just for big rock drum sound. A lot of studios have older great kits to do their main tracking and these can and are just as raw and precise in that way. Foundation to get anything sound wise. ProcessIng for modern or other genres is usually what I see so why not start with a natural kit which thankfully hasn’t ever really gone away. Cool!!

Mike.......Thanks for what you do!!

great review!!!! Many thanks

Good video. I ended up buying this expansion. The room really makes a difference. Gonna record some good drums and sample it with my hardware sampler collection. I’m in love with the sparkle kit and it’s probably because I a, using Steve Gadd Jazz sticks. Take care my friend!

I'm looking forward to the EZ Drummer Version expansion and Bass Expansion !!

Gong sustain counter :-) Awesome !

Great video Mike. add another SDX to my list lol.

Beautiful

I think I'm going to have to buy SD 3 just to be able to use this SDX,this has a lot of my favorite drum sounds

Hey Mike great review just got this pack today, its huge 180gb!! Olala i love it though... cheers man

Ughh! Damnit Mike! I just blew all my $ on D&D and Rock Foundry SDX’s and now I can have Bonham and Ringo kits? Looks like it’s Ramen for dinner for another week...Thanks for making me drool all over again! Oh how sweet that vistalite kit sounds. Thanks a lot!😝

This guy's track record is seriously impressive and I have to say it's an interesting drumkit, seems very versatile!

I've got a comment... "ROCK 'n' ROLL!" - This is an exciting SDX addition. Bonus points for your comment at 41:30. Thanks, Mike.

Hi Luke, good to see you again. This looks awesome for me. The only one missing is Ginger Bakers drums, but the 3 others are great for me. In the Mitch set they also did brushes. I always wanted to play “up from the shies “by Hendrix. Now I can..good to hear from you I’ll be buying this on payday.

is there some unofficial list of what each kit is reminiscent of which albums?

Again, on the Gretsch set dhoing dry sounds there are good tools , are they the midi or you?. I thought I heard honey Tonkin woman when you started except the cowbell

Wow Mike, amazing playing. What hardware do you use?

Hey Mike, thanks for the review! How does this compare to Rooms of Hansa? I may be wrong, but from my reading they seem similar -- Hansa seems very rock oriented and the Marble Room and Meistersaal give you the big rock sound. Do you think its worth it to have both or is there alot of redundancy?

Bought as soon as I found out about this SDX. Only disappointment is the lack of midi. So I searched the net a found some Groove Monkee Zep midi files

Will there be more grooves midi?

Hey Mike, What are your thoughts on Roland RT Surface mounted triggers? I have an acoustic hybrid kit and am using them at present and wonder if the internal triggers are really that much better?

I love most of the sounds i heard from this library and would go to those for current projects, even if those projects were not supposed to be vintage.

When playing the amber kit presets there are great rolls on the snare running down the the toms. Did you pla y that yourself or are they in the midi ?

Another perfect review, well done Mike! Honestly, this expansion meets my understanding of a natural roomy drum sound with attack. I grew up with KISS and from there got into Led Zep, Stones, Hendrix etc. I guess I became a drummer also because of Eddie Kramer :)

Hi Mike. Would you say you prefer Kramer’s Ludwig over Massenburg’s? So far I’ve only heard on an iPad and they sound similar. I look forward to listening properly to your video. Excellent work thanks.

I've never bought an SDX. Is it split up or one big download?

Love Vista Lite!

Just when I thought I'm done after Death&Darkness, Decades and Rooms of Hansa

Important note: There's a mistake in the video. When I showcase the "Hands" performance, it's actually played with sticks as I forgot to switch to the correct preset. Sorry! 0:00 Intro 0:57 Eddie Kramer 3:57 AIR Studios 5:02 The Drums 8:08 Default Kit Sounds 11:03 Instrument Walkthrough 17:24 The Timpanis 18:24 The Gong 20:18 The Mixer 25:01 MIDI Grooves 27:12 Hand Samples 27:40 Articulations 30:27 Presets 38:55 Conclusion

This is an awesome review as always, thank you. I pressed the buy button as soon as it went live on the Toontracks website, and I'm downloading it now. 180GB, its going to take a while lol :) ....this is perfect for all the music and eras I love. Cant wait to try it out once its finished downloading and installing. Are you going to do any cover songs using this SDX? That would be cool to show how they fit into a mix :)

wow i like teh hands options kindad like rock percussion lol great stuff...

Eddie Kramer is, without any doubt, my engineer/ producer idol. I am a bit older than you, Mike, so when I was first learning about Rock music, KISS were just in their prime of that first band line-up. My first KISS album was "Love Gun", and that was all Eddie's. To this day, Ace Frehley says that KISS was always their best when Eddie was recording them. And I can't argue with Ace. He is spot on. Bob Ezrin was fantastic too-- but Eddie got the band at their most raw fundamentals. Just listen to KISS "Ace Frehley" solo album... of all the 4 solo albums, Ace's album was the most in yer face, kick butt. I only wish that one of the sampled drums would have been a Pearl kit like Peter Criss during those 70s albums. Though, I understand that there is only so much time and money to put together these sound libraries and the most requested would be the Zep, Hendrix, Rolling Stones kits. Maybe we can get a volume 2 with Pete's drums...lol. And I'm not even going to get started on all the fantastic work Eddie did with Zep, Hendrix, Anthrax... the list goes on. Toontrack really blessed us with this Eddie Kramer library.

Mike, if I love the drums and cymbals of a legacy of rock kit, but want to add some more toms, how do I go about that? Can I open a kit in Death/ Darkness SDX and then pick the Legacy drums and cymbals instead of the native drums and cymbals? And then tune the Legacy toms to add additional toms?

Can you comment on how much the presets rely on bus processing? I tend to use multi-output routing and often have to rebuild the sound of SDX presets in my DAW. I like many of the presets I've heard but wonder how useful they'd be to me.

Do you use Toontrack presets when recording. If so, I'm curious how you mix them. Do you multi-out route them or use the stereo out? If multi, do you just rebuild the mix/preset? I imagine you don't rely on presets as much as I do, if at all. Cool learning experience, but I end up having to copy the bus processing in my DAW because I always use multi-out routing.

Hi Mike, gutes Review! Nutze aktuell noch die Core Library von SD3, ich hoffe aber darauf, mal eine von den neuen SDX´s im Sale zu bekommen. Die Legacy of Rock wäre auf jeden Fall interessant. Beste Grüße!

Is there any difference between the kits in this and their equivalents in the ezx classic rock? I honestly really like mainly the amber kit and it looks like it’s in the classic rock one as well

Just released 2 mins ago

How does this compare to Decades SDX?

Awesome luke thanks.Downloading......got a question for you.I've got all the expansions pretty much but not the metal ones, i do blues, jazz, rock, hard rock, soul and funk and i could get to the progressive territory....but not death metal.So if purchase death and darkness, could it be useful to stack or to get some "appropriate" sound for those genres ? i cannot find good NON metal examples on toontrack's page nor anywhere, your only.

Goddamn this thing sounds so good. I thought Hansa was the penultimate Toontrack library!

👍👍

Mahalo from Honolulu. Wonderful. Mahalo!

Damn, Mike! You released this quicker than Toontrack

Just a question, the snares don't sound all that crisp to me and not so with a lot of sissle. Are you able to get a little more out of them with eq. Just my 10 cents worth, thanks, enjoy your reviews.

Very nice, finally toontrack releases Bohnam kit.. The song remains the same is from 1973 tour at Madison square garden.

Mitchell's Premier kit and Charlie's maple round-badge Gretsch would have been my favs.

Hard to find triplet rolls in midi of anything. So if those are included, I’d be happy.

Ive always loved Eddie Kramers stuff, for example Ace Frehleys 1st solo album (actually counts as a KISS album though). Im not sure what desks he prefer but I dont think its SSL, more like a Neve guy (I guess).

Downloaded just for the Bonham's Vistalite sound............

@mikeluke how would you rate this compared to their last sdx decades, hansa, death&darkness & legacy of rock? i have to play legacy to can say how good it is but the other ones: 3: hansa 2:decades 1:death/darkness sound quallity is suberb from all their latest sdx but deaht/darkness is the holy grail i would say :)

Respectfully, The Song Remains the Same was filmed in September 73. The film was released in 1976. I saw them on July 18th 73 actually the 1st concert I ever attended.

Even though it's labeled as a 70's Rock sounding library, I think there is still something that improves in each and every expansion that comes out besides details and articulations, it's the snare sound quality. I would buy this one just for the sound of the Supraphonic snare and the Acrolite. It's litteraly some dream snares, yes I love Aluminium snare much more than brass (Supraphonic over Black Beauty anyday ! :P) But it's a 180 GB, plus another 180 Gb for installation, my hard drive can't handle it for the moment sadly... If I just re-install the Core library wich is around 50GB, would I be able to tu use all the mics (near, mid, far..) and bleeds of any expansions correctly? I have to say that I barely use the Core library so If i can just install the basic install (part 1) and run the expansions on full mode correctly, just let me know !!! Thanx a lot ! Very nice review as always, my wallet knows what's coming when I decide to watch your videos man ahahah !

Thats the issue ,i might have is u have to take what they did and make it modern 2020. Thanks

High polished glossy samples? No thanks! This expansion sounds amazing! Very warm, can't wait to get some tape dirt on this! :D Also the snare sounds! Great, hope this helps my workflow since I mostly work on classic/vintage stuff. Thanks Mike!

@mike Miss your sdx reviews Mayby one day you do a sdx comeback just for the fun....many viewers would love that i guess I guess you would love fields if rock Beside hansa and death sdx my favourite one so far... Hitmaker is not for me Area33 ist great recorded of course but has a strange sound to my ears (specially kicks and snares...the rest sounds great) and horrible presets ^^ Greetings

Song Remains The Same concert is from a 1973 performance.

Nice.. Now we just need a real CLA library made in the Air studios!

Klingt extrem gut und Kramer ist eine echte Legende!!!!!! Würdest du dieses SDX aber verwenden wenn du fast ausschließlich mit 2 rack toms und einem floor Tom arbeitest? Einfach floor Tom 1 höher stimmen oder macht das keinen Sinn?

I have one main problem with this SDX. In the 70's and 80's, people used a slew of rack toms. I can't believe they would try to pass this off. Sure the Stones, Zeppelin and Beatles were instrumental as was Eddie. I hope they come out with a second Legends of Rock for the rock bands that paved the way for the 80's. Yes, Rush, Deep Purple, King Crimson....

Not at all interested in this but watching your whole video anyway 😊

Yeah you pay for the room, not for the drums, edrummers with 5 toms and 6 cymbals look elsewhere, the rock foundry for instance...

all the commercials on this suck

Really disappointed in LEGACY of Rock and Rooms of Hansa. While the raw recording is good, most of the presets are simply unusable and many are just horrible. Guess the engineers ran out of ideas and just threw in juck for filler. AND.. Why did they cheap out on the number of toms in the kits? I understand the Amber kit is a recreation of Bonham's Amber Vistalite so ok, but why so few toms in the other kits? They have dozens of mics and channels so you have 52 (lol) channels of surround sound (God knows why that matters) and 3 drums. ? Really? You got the mics , the studio, the experts , record a couple more drums in the set just in case I need them, because I probably will. These last two SDX offerings are losers. If you are going to spend the time to record 7.1 surround at least do a handful of usable presets and a full 4 Tom setup.

Please less talk, avoid unnecessary chatting. It's fundamentally needed for a good video demo