Top 10 Cards That Were Used in Turn 1 Win Decks 

12:33 Mismagius was not banned in standard until Summer 2020 and was definitely legal after Reset Stamp was released. There was a top 16 deck in Nov 2019 which used both cards.

Could you make a video about cards that people assumed would be good based on pre-release info, but ended up being rarely if ever played?

Honourable mention goes to the combination of Imposter Oak’s Revenge (a Trainer card that lets you shuffle the opponent’s hand back into their deck and lets them draw 4 new cards, at the cost of 1 card discarded from your hand), Rocket’s Sneak Attack (a Trainer card that lets you shuffle 1 Trainer card from your opponent’s hand back into their deck, at no cost) and The Rocket’s Trap (A card that shuffles 3 random cards from your opponent’s hand back into their deck, on a successful coin toss). These three Trainer cards can absolutely cripple the opponent’s hand, and because they were essentially item cards (supporters didn’t exist when these were first printed), this could all do down on the first turn. While this isn’t a donk per se, hence why I don’t think it would be eligible for this list, your only hope to survive such an early-game onslaught is if you hard-drew into a Professor Oak when your turn finally came up (at a ratio of 4 Oaks in a roughly 50 card deck-or worse 4 out of exactly 53 if your bench was empty-that’s some slim odds indeed). Only once Neo Genesis’ Cleffa released was there finally some reliable counterplay to these three hand destruction trainers. Pokémon introduced the Supporter classification for Trainer cards pretty soon thereafter in the Expedition Base Set and all prior sets that had these busted Trainers would eventually rotate out of Standard. Nowadays an effect as busted as The Rocket’s Trap and Rocket’s Sneak Attack will never be printed onto an Item card again. And while we have seen Imposter Oak’s Revenge return as an Item card named Red Card, that card would eventually get banned in Expanded.

It is kind of insane the variety of FTKs that exist with gen 4 cards alone. Kingdra Prime, Machamp, Sableye and Shuppet, Dunsparce were all running around in the same format. Really happy that these strategies are less common these days, even in expanded because Pokemon really doesn't have many options when it comes to disruption, which makes FTKs even more degenerate than they would be in other card games. My personal favorite of these being Unown Damage, which could move and loop damage till you had accumulated 660 damage across your entire board. Love how indepth the Shiftry section was, as it showed that it was really more the cards around it that broke a very mundane coinflip card

You could have mentioned Jirachi Ex, who was used with island challenge amulet and N. Remember it vividly when amulet released and got it banned.

Always nice to see the history of the game.

So I just built an app to help players better understand what is and is not Expanded-legal on Pokemon TCG Live, since the format is different on Live than in paper, and the Live client does a TERRIBLE job telling you what is and is not legal in Expanded and why. As I was writing the ban list logic, I was asking myself why a lot of cards were even there (Oranguru, Red Stamp, Mismagius). Now it allll makes sense, haha.

I love these videos about the history of the TCG, really glad i found this channel. Only thing that i dislike is the reading out of all the attacks and abilities on a pokemon. i feel like it would be better if you just explained the things that are important to the video for time's sake, the card is on the screen to read anyway

Huge fan! Really cool that your going into multiple tcg’s

Great video Rahul and Lily

I would add welder to the list. Nice video!

I use to love donking Nightmarch with Latios

Pheromosa GX is a better version of Latiox EX, because grass type in TCG can hit something for weakness (dragon can't) and it can utilize Beast Energy. Marshadow GX and MewMew GX can use Pheromosa GX turn 1 attack with their ability. It's remain the one true DONK in Expanded.

Sabldonk was one of the most unique types of donk decks. It offered so much variety and even late-game power depending on the SP pokemon you decided to build around with the SP engine outside of the Crobats, Poke Turns in case of missing the donk. SP Sprays could keep the opponent's setup crippled even if they don't get donked from having more than one basic out. I loved playing Sabldonk with Garchomp C and Blaziken FB. Even got a 2nd place on a State Championship with it.

My favorite of 1st turn win decks is GO Lunatone/Solrock. Just so fun, even if it doesn't get the first turn win

That Sableye card is the specific reason why me as a child realized that Pokémon in general can be strong even if they don’t seem strong. TheJWittz’s Top 10 Pokémon video included a shoutout to Prankster Sableye and Overeager Sableye as Pokémon that brought him a lot of success in competitive Pokémon games and I was like “WHAAAAAT”

Best artwork, most unique interaction(s)

I used to use a Latios Donk deck all the time, it was amazing

I only played casually as a child and didn't even know first turn wins were a thing in the pokemon tcg 😮

"Thanks to cards like Broken Time-Space not being designed for a format like that at all." No, I think the card was deliberately designed to teach players that this type of format should never come close to the game.

It's crazy to think that all those lockdown, handloops and OTK shenanigans are considered extremely unhealthy when in Yu-Gi-Oh it became the norm since many years now

Meloetta in fusion strike was great for donks because it could do 210 damage turn 1 with Else's Sparkle, additional damage with power tablets and amazing draw support with Genesect EX. Although since there there was no way to attack 1st turn going 1st, this wasn't technically a donk deck, but it was a great donk option for a deck that was great in it's own right

Oh god, I had three of those Machamps in my gen 4 deck, and it made so many of my friends rage...

I would like to see a video about the Ban List for Gym Leader Challenge.

nothing beats a good Wailord/ Unown win. there are currently 2 Unown cards on the ban list, and for good reason. one Unown wins you the game, if you have like 30-40 cards in your hand. while the other one wins you the game, if you have like 66 damage counters in play. with cards like reuinclus, you can damage swapping to your wailords, while abusing magmas secret base and scoop ups etc, to build up the damage! incredibly rogue, but so so funny if you pull it off!

ah yes i remember those days of shaymin ex and super scoop up. the banes of my existence.

You make me want to play TCG again

TOW Decks? I like that name so much better than "FTK". Not fond of the style, feels more like it oughta be debug testing for a TCG than showing how you can play solitaire.

Naming my kid Chip-Chip Ice Axe

12:50 Wasn’t roaring skies from xy?

Where in XY did Pokemon TCG become YGO? So many bans.

Where was tpci when mew vmax deck was released

Including shay is really pointless, may as well include bicycle, acro bike, ultra ball, etc. As those are also used but not key to what is done.

Diamond and pearl era allowed you to actually play any cards on Turn 1

Ah yes Latios ex secret my first Ex

Why isn't this video known as "FTK Enablers"?

Shaymin EX every time, huh?

oo-xie😅

man do you know that that is xy not black and white? you keep saying black and white in your videos

waus

fun video, but i feel like it’s being held back due to the lack of proofreading or research in the script, or oversights in the editing and recording.

mfw this channel isn't named The Oak Logs mfw I have no face

How do any of these cards create a turn 1 win? You failed to provide even one example. I doubt any of these cards could take out 6 basic Pokemon or 3 ex/V Pokemon on turn 1.

Jesus Christ loves you

Also, I just watched through the video... and you are very obviously missing Porydonk in this list. Porydonk is unquestionably the most powerful turn 1 deck in the history of the TCG. It is hilariously consistent. And the only thing you mentioned in relation to it was a small blurb about Seeker...