Excellent video. I purchased a 2020 4S just last week from an OPC in the UK with 2 years warranty with a discount offer to extend to 3 years. The battery warranty has 4 years remaining and the car has only covered 13,700miles with a phenomenal spec. Overall I’m very pleased with the deal 👍🏻
@@aleksisofevil Sure, yes, you should be able to negotiate a bit, say 3-5%. Check other offers and be prepared to walk away if your max price is not achieved
@@morten_hannesbo I bought a Taycan Cross Turismo from August 2023 with less than 13,000 km, with almost a full option pack, including full leather seats, rear axle steering Sport Chrono package, sports seats, etc. CPO until 2027. Negotiated 3% rebate and a set of winter tires.
The only thing Porsche needs to do to offer an absolutely super hot deal for a new larger battery, where neither Porsche nor the dealership for replacement work makes money, valid over the next 3 years. That would put a lot of owners and second hand buyers at ease. Selling the old battery, which is still good for second life, would make these Taycan cars very hot...
Great summary! Many thanks! A section on typical failures (not the battery) and replacement cost would help. Say, headlights managment or suspension or similar.
Very good analysis based on facts and common sense. I agree with GTS as best combination of luxury and performance. I just bought a 2024 GTS and want to move into it and live there. Just gorgeous.
Really great video. Could you explain a bit more why you calculate so high yearly service costs? Its seems tremendous to me after having a tesla for several years. Would be very thankful for an detailed answer
Thank you for watching. As you correctly state, my estimate is on the conservative/high side, however, I have owned about 30 Porsches over the years and I have kept a record of the actual costs of running Panameras, Cayennes, Taycans, 911s and Macans. In my experience you are more likely than not to experience costs of 2-3'000 CHF per year for a Taycan after year 3: The bills for oil/liquids and normal service work is 5-600 CHF/year, aircon service 250 CHF. A spring service/overhaul is 200 CHF, 2 x wheel change winter/summer 400 CHF incl. storage, alloy rim repairs 1x per year 400 CHF. On top of that brake pads and brake disc will need maintenance or replacement, too. And if you scratch a door or bumper....then $$$$$ bills are coming your way. I find this allright, but many will be surprised how expensive it can be.
@@morten_hannesboelectric cars are supposed to be able to go 100k miles or more without the need to replace brakes or rotors due to regenerative braking that makes rare use of the brake pads …
Great video except the maintenance costs. The Taycan has a 2 year or 30.000 km service interval where the first one costed me 546€ at the local Porsche dealer. Sure prices are a bit higher in Switzerland but not anywhere near your 2000-3000 CHF per year especially when you got the warranty where all unexpected failure is covered. In fact the Taycan has half the maintenance cost than my second car which is a BMW G21 330d. I would love to know how you came up with your calculations cause they are far from reality.
Thank you for watching. As you correctly state, my estimate is on the conservative/high side, however, I have owned about 30 Porsches over the years and I have kept a record of the actual costs of running Panameras, Cayennes, Taycans, 911s and Macans. In my experience you are more likely than not to experience costs of 2-3'000 CHF per year for a Taycan after year 3: The bills for oil/liquids and normal service work is 5-600 CHF/year, aircon service 250 CHF. A spring service/overhaul is 200 CHF, 2 x wheel change winter/summer 400 CHF incl. storage, alloy rim repairs 1x per year 400 CHF. On top of that brake pads and brake disc will need maintenance or replacement, too. And if you scratch a door or bumper....then $$$$$ bills are coming your way. I find this allright, but many will be surprised how expensive it can be.
It would be quite inexpensive for Porsche to extend the warranty. Porsche gives 8 years/160000 km anyway, extending to 12 years/300000 km would only really be relevant for very few customers because very few Porsches ever reach so high mileages (compared to e.g. Tesla Model S which is used for Taxis). If you look at how many Porsches would fall into the warranty it is just 3%-5% of the cars which are 160000 km. Further, Porsche only guarantees 70% of Battery capacity at the end of the warranty. The battery is likely to perform much better than that. The game here is to install confidence in the product.
Thank you for this heöpful video. I live in Switzerland and am in the market to buy a used Taycan Cross Turismo. I notice that Porsche Centers have inflated expectations of the sale price they can get (for 2022 or 2023 models) Any tips on how to get them to reduce the asking price?
Well, I think the Porsche dealers will be flexible if you show what the autoscout.ch price picture is. I wish you good luck with your search, and do look around! I think a 4S Cross Turismo should be around 80-95K for a very low mileage 2022 Model from a Porsche dealer.
Thank you for watching. It will be less expensive than e.g a Panamera. My estimate is on the conservative/high side, however, I have owned about 30 Porsches over the years and I have kept a record of the actual costs of running Panameras, Cayennes, Taycans, 911s and Macans. In my experience you are more likely than not to experience costs of 2-3'000 CHF per year for a Taycan after year 3: The bills for oil/liquids and normal service work is 5-600 CHF/year, aircon service 250 CHF. A spring service/overhaul is 200 CHF, 2 x wheel change winter/summer 400 CHF incl. storage, alloy rim repairs 1x per year 400 CHF. On top of that brake pads and brake disc will need maintenance or replacement, too. And if you scratch a door or bumper....then $$$$$ bills are coming your way. I find this allright, but many will be surprised how expensive it can be.
Sure, and they should. But Porsche also plans residual values, insurance costs and maintenance costs etc for their cars and for Taycan it went terribly wrong. A Porsche is not a Bentley or a Ferrari. Porsche is a volume brand (volume 20x Bentley or Ferrari) which relies on model mix management to balance CO2 fleet average. The Taycan, as well as Macan, Cayenne and Panamera need robust residual value planning to be supported by leasing companies as most cars are bought on finance. Leasing rates are a function of Price, Interest and Depreciation.
Hi. Quick question. I went to a Porsche dealer in St gallen , where he mentioned that there is a possibility to extend every year the warranty , which cost around 390chf. ( they just need to do a quick inspection of the car) do you know know anything about it ?
Hi, do not know this product - I assume it is a 3rd party product from Quality1 or similar and would have some limitations. The Porsche Approved Warranty costs approx 1600 CHF per year and covers the traction battery. The Porsche Appoved Warranty can be extended every year up to 200000 km and I'd recommend to buy this and not the other
The biggest problem... the infra structure to charge. I think there will come other solutions like making gasoline more clean. Never forget, we still need fossil fuel to get electricity. Not speaking about all the battery minerals and child labour needed. EV = woke
The Porsche Taycan has a two-speed transmission, unlike most electric vehicles, which only have one gear. Most electric vehicles have just one gear (one-speed transmission). However, the Porsche Taycan is one of a few electric vehicle models that uses two gears.
The battery is always on recall. Terrible reliability and the heaters are on their 4th replacement. The car is shit. Nobody wants them used. Porsche tax is insane. £3000 36 months to insure warranty it even though the battery is in the 8 year warranty. They are even robbing you to service one which doesn’t actually need to be serviced. £1500 a service is the quote
Do you want out of this world depreciation? Do you accept a Hyundai is faster than that Porsche? The first question I would answrr before answering the next 10...
Porsche does not need to lower prices! Total and utter nonsense. If you want a Porsche, pay up, otherwise go somewhere else (other than T junk of course, unless you are stupid wasting money on junk) What Porsche needs are larger more powerful batteries to compete. I have a Zeekr 001 with 140kWh battery. Gamechanger EV!
Taycans in the UK are dropping like stones. Porsche dealers are not buying them (even for £30/£40k for zero miles cars)! They are also not taking Taycans in part exchange (when disgruntled owners give up and want an ICE car again), almost no fast charging and vast numbwers already for sale (1000+) and you have a £120,000 car thats worth £35,000 in two years, more than £115 per day!!! Complete joke...
@@ermi4973 Main dealers are offering £40k for zero miles cars, there is effectively no second hand market for these lead balloons, people are stuck swallowing £40/£60k depreciation in two years, and you call it bollocks. 🤔
@@ermi4973 It was the chap on RU-vid that bought 3 Taycans to bump him on to the list for a GT2rs. He collected the rs, and offered to sell the Taycans back without collecting them, they offered 40k each.
Never an EV !!!! Xiaomi offers so much more for a far better price and better looking exterior design. But still an EV 😢 Porsche is leaving there legacy. Those terrible headlights 😢😢. With all these digital screens. I am driving all kind of Porsches for 30 years now. But there EV move will end it 100%.
