Well Jeffrey, it wasn't about giving Brokeback Mountain best picture, it was about some people refusing to even see the film and campaigning against it, without even really knowing the film. Great film, with wonderful performances and it's bad enough it didn't win. Worse, they had the nerve to actually nominate what amounts to a under par made for TV movie and then give it best picture. From that day to this, I call it Trash not Crash, although both names are appropriate, depending on the context in which you are thinking about it.
James Harris agreed first time that I saw crash I said what is this and how did it get what it got. I know it won the Screen Actors Guild Award for best ensemble cast but considering Brokeback Mountain at a small cast that wasn't surprising. There were good performances in Crash from Matt Dillon and Sandra Bullock but my biggest concern was the fact that you're too many plot lines going on at the same time. One comment that really stands out to me was from Tony Curtis who said that we shouldn't be supporting films on that farm this.
Jefferey Hopkins I didn't have a problem with all of the different plots. The problem was that I'd seen it before and done much better. It was predictable, and just not very good. Definitely not Oscar worthy. Winning the SAG ensemble, or anything else was an injustice that hinted at what was coming. Since it was Los Angeles based, and dealt with blacks, whites, etc., it would be the perfect foil against the gay cowboy movie. Well, if you're going to pick something else, then at least, make sure it's worthy. You're talking about a film losing that, going in, was the most celebrated, critical winner ever, and it lost? Well, the same thing did happen to the second most critical winner as well, and that would be Saving Private Ryan. Both rightly won directing Oscars, and both lost to poor choices for best picture, although in its favor, Shakespeare In Love was nowhere near as mediocre as Trash.
I watched LA Confidential once and I liked it. Watched Titanic over 30 times and loved it every time. While LA Confidential is a really good kinda underrated film, Titanic is just epic.
Forrest Gump won the award over Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption. All three are top 100 all time, but you can make an argument for Shawshank being robbed as well. Forest Gump at the time had some innovated techniques in filmmaking. Great year for films.
Considering all the talent and money involved, you could make a strong case for Titanic being the most overrated movie in history. Yes, L.A. Confidential was far more deserving. How Green Was My Valley was a good little movie, but how many people remember it now? Citizen Kane is generally considered the greatest American movie ever made. Looking back, Kane not winning the Oscar is a bad joke.
I don’t really understand the hate over Crash. I loved that movie, maybe Brokeback Mountain was better, but I think Crash deserved to be up there too. I really loved the performances especially Matt Dillon and Thandie Newton
I agree with some of these. I am in the minority, but Titanic bored the shit out of me. The 1958 movie A Night to Remember is way better and still wrings tears from me. Even the 1952 20th Century Fox fictionalization is better. The 1997 movie was a technical triumph I suppose, but I cared not for any of the characters in it. Not even the old lady. Maybe a little for the people who perished in the elevator. Brokeback Mountain has lost some lustre over the years, but I agree it should have won.
Biggest Oscar Mistakes for Best Picture: 1. “Citizen Kane” over “How Green Was My Valley” 2. “Brokeback Mountain” over “Crash” 3. “Saving Private Ryan” over “Shakespeare in Love” 4. “Goodfellas” over “Dances with Wolves” 5. “Raging Bull” over “Ordinary People” 6. “Apocalypse Now” over “Kramer vs. Kramer” 7. “E.T.: the Extra Terrestrial” over “Gandhi” 8. “Do the Right Thing” over “Driving Miss Daisy” 9. “High Noon” over “The Greatest Show on Earth” 10. “The Grapes of Wrath” over “Rebecca” 11. “2001: A Space Odyssey” over “Oliver!” 12. “Reds” over “Chariots of Fire” 13. “La La Land” over “Moonlight” 14. “The Revenant” over “Spotlight” 15. “The Ten Commandments” over “Around the World in 80 Days” 16. “Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?” over “A Man for All Seasons” 17. “The Treasure of the Sierra Madre” over “Hamlet” 18. “Double Indemnity” over “Going My Way”
Can I be contraversal and say that I think Citizen Kane was mainly great for its innovative techniques and now those are standard and have lost their impact I find it be a very overacted and quite boring film that didn't live up to the expectations I had of it watching it.
Allan Fisch I was pissed that it wasn’t even nominated. How come trash Chicago can get Best Picture and not the greatest musical of all time get it. The Academy are at this point in time a fucking joke.
At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter because we’re all still talking abt films like singing in the rain and broke back mountain, but no one talks abt crash etc
That's the problem with an artistic prize isn't it that you will be judging things that do different things equally well against each other, that and the question of influence, the composition of the judges - i.e. very white and middle aged and some years you'll get an embrassment of riches and some years will just be rich with embrassments.
I think Network and TAxi Driver were better Movies than Rocky although Rocky the first one was also a great Movie. I would stil give Network a slight edge over Taxi Driver, but both Network and Taxi Driver are both great Movies.
I still say Ordinary People over Raging Bull was probably the biggest mistake in any category. OP only got it because the Academy loves to reward actors who direct... not to mention that they hated Scorsese for many years for being too "New York".
My only exception would be Driving Miss Daisy, I remember seeing Dead Poets Society, and enjoying it. However, DMD, left an impression that’s lasted a lifetime. If it’s streaming somewhere, I always hit play. As far as Shakespeare in Love, well that’s a dirty carpet nobody wants to lift up.
I agree with many of yours, especially 2005. But I found the following to be questionable... 1937 Stage Door should have beaten The Life of Emile Zola; 1938 Jezebel over You Can't Take it With You; 1944 Gaslight over Going My Way; 1956 Giant over Around the World in 80 Days; 1958 Cat On A Hot Tin Roof over Gigi; 1971 The Last Picture Show over The French Connection; 1979 Apocalypse Now over Kramer v Kramer; 1985 The Color Purple over Out of Africa; 1988 Mississippi Burning over Rain Man; 2000 I would pick Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon in Chinese over Gladiator; 2011 The Descendants over The Artist.
I think all the ranting over Shakespeare in Love ignores that it's a good film - yes Harvey Weinstein - so what? All of those LA Confidential (also a great film) fans are kinda living in glass houses there because Kevin Spacey was just as bad.
One that should at least got a dishonorable mention is Out of Africa over The Color Purple. I'd maybe even put it at #1. Looking back at it Mississippi Burning should have won over Rain Man. Is a much more powerful and timely movie
My List: 1. Crash over Brokeback Mountain. 2. Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan. 3. How Green was my Valley over Citizen Kane. 4. Green Book over The Favourite or Roma. 5. Dances with Wolves over Goodfellas. 6. The Hurt Locker over Inglorious Basterds. 7. The King's Speech over Black Swan, Inception, The Social Network or Toy Story 3. 8. The Greatest Show on Earth over High Noon. 9. The Sting over The Exorcist. 10. Chariots of Fire over Reds. (Dis)Honorable Mentions: 1. Gladiator over Traffic. 2. Chicago over The Pianist. 3. Going my Way over Double Idemnity. 4. Driving Miss Daisy over Dead Poets Society. 5. American Beauty over The Sixth Sense. 6. The French Connection over A Clockwork Orange. 7. Gandhi over E.T. the Extra-Terrestial. 8. A Man for All Seasons over Who's Affraid of Virginia Wolf? 9. Oliver over The Lion in Winter or 2001: A Space Odyssey (Not Nominated) 10. The Artist over The Tree of Life, The Help or Hugo.
I love Shawshank but it was a sleeper hit - it largely was ignored by everyone when it came out and then the word of mouth just made it go huge. I first watched on TV as it's rep preceded it by then - thinking let's see if it's as good as people say and it was and still is.
@@johnfitzpatrick3094 Argo isn't bad. It's quite good, just rather ordinarily so. That's an unusually strong crop of pictures, for what it's worth. But Argo isn't on the same level as Django Unchained (I'm not a Tarantino partisan, for the record) or Beasts of the Southern Wild. The latter should have won. It's one of those years where partisans of other nominees surely split the differences, and Argo won by default.
Personally, I think that " Do the Right Thing " should've won! However, " Driving Miss Daisy " was among the best films ever to depict positive Race Relations!
Crash is genuinely one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Like even though Brokeback is one of my all time favourites, I hadn't seen Crash at the time, so couldn't be that mad. But then I watched it...🤦🏽♂️
The Color Purple, up for 11 Academy Awards, and received zero is THE single worst night ever and it's this moment I lost all faith and hope and interest in it all.
1999 was a very good year for films - an Annus mirablis so I think that whatever won and got nominated masterpieces were going to get done dirty. I think American Beauty deserved the win and it's only become become disputed because of the Annus mirablis factor mentioned above and Kevin Spacey got rightly cancelled - he's trash but was a great actor and it's not really his film it's Sam Mendes and Alan Ball's.
@@EmoBearRights I changed my mind about who had to win, definitely Magnolia, it's a masterpiece, I still think American Beauty didn't had to win best picture.
9, 7, 6, 2 and 1 I can't agree with more, but 5 I disagree. I definitely don't think Rocky deserved to win but I think Network deserved to win. It got the best reviews of the year, has one of the best screenplays ever and is full of brilliant performances so it definitely deserved to win over both Rocky and Taxi Driver
1976 was an amazing year for movies, with Taxi Driver, Network, All the President's Men, and Rocky all nominated for Best Picture. The only year to surpass it in terms of number of classic movies nominated was 1939. Rocky is by far the weakest of the movies nominated. Taxi Driver and All the President's Men are both amazing, but I would have gone with Network for Best Picture. The screenplay is easily one of the 10 greatest in movie history and the performances are legendary.
Brokeback Mountain's loss was one of history's quintessential examples of homophobia and the blind, shameless, pathetic nature of bigotry, so stark was the contrast between this brilliant movie and the mediocre, forgettable, b-moving competitor/winner. What was its title again? If the winner of the best picture that year is remembered at all, it will be for its status as the shallow movie that never should have won against the masterpiece. Even in its loss, Brokeback was a cultural milestone, because it exposed the anti-gay fear and hatred that even "liberal" Hollywood harbored. Brokeback Mountain remains a singular example of an elegant, seamless, beautiful, radiantly crafted, profound, tragic work of art in the the company of theater's greatest classic tragedies. The conventional narrow-mindedness of the Academy voters served to empasize the uncanny courage and instincts of Ang Lee, and the pure nature of his aasthetic sensibilities. The core tragedy of Brokeback Mountain flowed out from the silver screen onto the heads of the viewers who were bigots, and left thousands of quiet, gentle, male victims of a generation whose story it was weeping in the dark long after the credits rolled, breacking the fourth wall in a most profound way. Those Academy voters will forever hide their shame. There will be no bragging to the grandchildren about that vote. In the end, Brokeback Mountain won history's vote hands down. "See what a scourge is laid upon your hate, that heaven finds means to kill your joys with love! And I, for winking at you, discords too, have lost a brace of kinsmen. All are punish'd."
I actually agree with all these though I prefer Network to both Rocky and Taxi Driver. So happy you chose LA Confidential, one of my favourite movies ever, over titanic, a very overrated movie
Ordinary People over Raging Bull English Patient over Fargo Hurt Locker over Avatar Kings Speech over Social Network or Black Swan Schindler's List over Piano or In the Name of the Father More biggest ocar mistakes.
Schindler's List is one of *THE* greatest movies of all time. The Piano and In the Name of the Father are great, but Schindler's List is a masterpiece.
@@theferryman4916 i don't think people hate the movie itself, just the fact that it won best picture that year. when people talk about what the greatest movie of all time is, Shawshank Redemption is on the short list of movies that get brought up along with movies like Godfather and Citizen Kane. i think most people think Forrest Gump is good, but just not on that level
@@kyleblasberg Well, you won't like it but in my opinion Shawshank Redemtion is among the most overrated movies ever and I'd take Forrest Gump over it any day...
@@kyleblasberg Too cheesy, no edges, very black and white....just very "American" if that makes any sense....keeps the viewer safe and doesn't challenge him one bit
Saving Private Ryan and Citizen Kane, yes. Apollo 13 was a spectacular film (one of my all-time favorites), but Braveheart deserves it. Nothing better with Dancing with Wolves.
they forgot 2 of the greatest movies ever.. Not winning the best picture of their years.. Gandhi won over ET. That was an outrage. ET is still the most beloved movie ever. and of course The biggest mess in Oscar history, La La Land losing to Moonlight. I am so pissed over this. La La Land was the best movie i have ever seen in my life. Oscar people need to give the awards to the most deserving people. NOT the crappy choices they have made over the years, Sandra Bullock? Really? How is that Edward Norton or Ed Harris have NOT won an Oscar? How is that Meryl Streep gets nominated every year? How the hell has Amy Adams NOT won at least One Oscar? Ryan Gosling should have won for La La Land . That movie is perfection. It should have won Best Picture. So many mistakes on Oscar's part. Crash winning over Brokeback Mountain may be the biggest mistake of all. That movie was Incredible. I haven't even got to the best original songs. That's another day to discuss.
How green was my Valley over Citizen Kane Rebecca over the Grapes of Wrath Rocky over Network, not Taxi Driver Greatest Show over (tie) High Noon and Singin in the Rain
Did Hollywood "punish" Mr. Welles for his War of the Worlds radio prank a few years prior to Citizen Kane? I don't have the answer.Just a thought. Regardless, Citizen Kane is a wonderful film👍
Gladiator sucked. Agree with Dead Poets Society, Love LA Confidential. Agree with Goodfellas. Think Network should have beaten Rocky. Hated Shakespeare.
I disagree with your Taxi Driver pick.I think Network should've won. Rocky was a goid flick also.Taxi Driver is disturbing on so many levels .Ive only seen it once and that was enough for me.
