UnkeptMoss328 How about the cliche where a different genre artist/band becomes a overrated pop artist/band? Rock Maroon V -> Pop Maroon V Country Taylor Swift -> Pop Taylor Swift
You forgot to mention the "my boyfriend dumped me and is going out with another girl so I'm going to write a song about how I've moved on and how much of a jerk he is" cliche
Well, you know. You cant really blame WM. They are only making the list by people's votes on certain catagories. I agree, not everything on here is "cliche."
I hate that almost every song is always about having sex, getting drunk, doing drugs, or falling in and out of love. There are so many things to experience in this life and these are the only things that they can sing about? How about a song about finding yourself, or coping with the death of a loved one, or just going through life in general?
Why don't we have pop songs about going to the shop like every ordinary person and their ordinary life that doesn't involve partying and having (too much) sex.
How's this (take note that I have 0 experience in the music business so my song will be absolute garbage). Remember to sing the lyrics in a four chord progression! "Going to the store! It's near the shore! Getting a shopping cart. I like this place more than Kmart! Getting all the deals. It such a steal! Shopping!!!! So much to buy! Shopping!!! Really gotta fly! (Repeate twice) Get some snacks to go! Following the shopping flow-o (Urban bit) Getting dem snacks Like dem women's racks. Uh. Yeh (insert rapper's name here) Get that flour Show 'em I got power (End of urban bit) Got that food. I don't mean to be rude. Going home. Texting on the phone. Uh-oh Crashed. Killed a kid he looks pretty trased!
Key changes? Seriously? If you have been in choir for any length of time, and you can read sheet music, you know that there have been key changes in music for centuries. It is not unique to pop music.
rexthe cow It might not be a fundamental part of creating a song, but it has been happening in music for a long time. Also, Wikipedia? Hasn't anyone told you that that particular website is one of the worst ways to spread reliable information?
sarah borrink I think it particularly refers to "over-singing". The idea is that the more you jump around with key changes and volume the more talented a singer appears to be. I work at a grocery store atm so I hear a llllllot of key changes over the store radio over the course of a shift... utterly exhausting.
What I find most cliche in pop music is that almost every pop artist is a sell-out. I don't know what selling out means in the dictionary, but in my opinion, it means a couple things: alienating your fan base, changing your image and musical style, and worse of all, only being in it for the money.
And another thing: a lot of music today lacks something incredibly important: soul. I think that's the biggest tragedy in music today, period. We need to bring the soul in all types of music, and so far, it's missing.
David McAninch Well I disagree. I see nothing wrong with changing you're music style and image. Sometimes it's called trying something new or being versatile. Artists get boring if they keep doing the same thing. It doesn't make them a sellout
the phrase 'What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger' is probably the most cliché thing in pop music as of today. ive heard that shit in like a hundred songs already
Harmonizing is actually singing or playing the third up from the root note & the third up from the third to create a triad. "Changing key" or modulating is shifting the entire melody to a different key signature. But yeah, this is kinda what music has been made of since the beginning of time.
Ariana actually says 'baby' more than Justin does in 'Baby I' I believe I tried counting the other day and I got 57 but there was probably some I missed...
ku lu Like I said, I will listen to any music that is suits my taste and style despite the artist and musical genres. I don't have anything bad against pop music because it's my favorite genres of music, but it would be nice sometimes to hear something different and new. This is my opinion, surely you have your own.
Since we're on the subject, calling out pop musicians for having a four chord progression is like calling out artists like van Gogh and Andy Warhol for using primary colors
The problem with these clichés is that 90% of people today LOVE these things. You give them more complexity and diverse topics, and they won't buy it, not in a massive way. You have independent pop and dance, great rock and metal tunes, great independent rap and r&b, talking of much more important things....but people want the same childish not so great voices, good looks, stupid lyrics, etc. So, as long as we have simple-minded people, we will have these clichés. In the 60's and 70's you had people like Joan Baez singing about freedom, and songs about spirituality and revolution, etc. Today, these songs are too intellectual for most people using youtube.
The reason why people enjoy these songs is because they're specifically tailored to please the human brain. We naturally love patterns, harmonious sounds, repetition. When things are predictable, we're comforted because there is no anxiety about what's coming next. That's just how it is. If you can resist it, then congrats, you're a bit more intelligent than others for being able to go against evolution (other indicators are: being a night owl, liberalism, and monogamy). Unfortunately, we're not all at that stage yet. Personally, while I do enjoy pop, I'd like something evocative, something about what's going on in the world. Music is well liked, it's figuratively a need. Much better for spreading messages. Unfortunately, if the music industry can't make money off it...
Kali JaguarStar Lmao like if you sing about kissing a girl while being a girl (Katy Perry xD Like 2007 Era) The world only sees it as "OMG SHE'S WEIRD SHE DIDN'T KISS A BOY LIKE SHE"S SUPPOSED TO OR SHE DIDN'T DO WHAT WE WANTED HER TO SHE CAN ONLY WRITE SONGS ABOUT BEING IN LOVE WITH A BOY! SO CONTROVERSIAL HIDE MY KIDS!" But it was only a provocative song that was just kinda joking xD. Man, American Parents glad my mom is like "Eh whatever you'll listen to it eventually." We're American btw SO STFU ABOUT BEING RACIST. xD
You know, some people don't want to think about the complexity of a song and just want to enjoy the melody LOL. If I wanted complexity all the time I'd read a book.
The Beatles' early music wasn't always innocent… there were always sexual undertones. Such as in "I'm gonna love her til the cows come home" or "When I come home to you, I find the things that you do make me feel alright" from A Hard Day's Night album
"Partying/being in the club" 100% in every genre. "Love will find a way" 100% in every genre. Finally, key changes, empowerment, and duets? In EVERY GENRE! You are reaching so hard.
Yeah but this is cliches about POP, and if they are overused like a cliche is then it's still a cliche... Just because key changes, empowerment and duets are part of "every genre" doesn't mean that they aren't cliche in pop music.
What I find most cliche: Singing about your butt Having 1 hit and then dropping off the map Absurd music videos Referencing your love interest as "baby" CLUB BEATS Sappy acoustic love ballads Using your name as your artist name Giving your backstory in a rap song Saying "yo" "unh" "yeah" or "ooo" So. Much. Makeup Telling your fans how much you care about them when you don't actually care Trying to strike a relationship with a brand that is out of music (Snoop Dog and AYC) That's all I could think of. This video was JUST what I needed. Thanks WatchMojo
most of these are the core elements of the blues, weird. Raunchy lyrics, check Lovesick melancholy, check alcoholic behaviors, check repeated verse, check love of the lyric baby, check themes of regret check, check, and check its almost as if these are eternal human themes...
Number 1 was pretty obvious to be honest, and everyone should listen to that Axis Of Awesome 4 chords song as it really does show how almost every pop song is basically the same
ryant331 Keith Urban has a "hidden" track on one of his CDs that's titled "One-Chord Song". The entire song is done in one key - of G - and it's hilarious.
Kelly Clarkson has become so boring. Most of her hit songs have the same rhythm. They start out steady, then climaxes, then steady, then climaxes Screaming/shouting in songs (like in See You Again - Wiz Khalifa) is also cliche. Songs I find cliche are songs that sing about *love*, *finding yourself*, *living in the moment*, *being a pop star king or queen*, *sex*, etc. I honestly get so bored that now I prefer listening to classical music
Wesley Snipes fun fact: Music has been around since the beginning of time and exists in many different cultures. Unfortunatly all we get is the pop bullshit shoved in our faces.
@@biivamunner3122 pop music is an insult to everyone who has actually worked hard to become a musician. Other art forms continue to be improved upon, whereas music was far more composed hundreds of years ago than it is now. I get its fun to dance, and even I love some stupid music for fun, the problem is when people take this shit seriously, and pass it off as good, it damages the art of music as a whole.
@@DoBap_ There's still serious music that fits your description. It's just not what the public is into. You don't have to be conjoined with society if you don't want to.
Omg same in 2011 I sayed for my mommy is that a girl she looks like a boy and mommy sayed he is a boy I sayed omg is that a boy I thing he is a girl LOOOL 😂😂😂😂
seth fernandez No, no they're not. The bridge is the section between the verse and chorus. What you're thinking of is the middle 8, and not all of them use key changes. In fact, most of them don't.
seth fernandez The middle 8 is what you are thinking of. And it doesn't have to have a key change. In fact, many songs don't even have a middle 8. Lot's of songs don't even have verses or choruses. Before you talk about "every single song" make sure you know about music other than what is in the mainstream.
Indya Bratton making a unique song, with a unique concept with unique instrumental composition wouldnt be a cliche. How to find that? Dont listen to pop music, look beyond our ignorant society and into other cultures and look back in time to older music acts.
Do Bap, there are still cliches in different societies and time periods. And I don't see why you call your society ignorant because there are plenty of beautiful songs. And if there are unique songs, it's because there are so few with that style while pop is obviously popular and a lot of the gaps have been filled, other culture's songs aren't necessarily unique because they are better or anything. Although I still think classical, operas, and other traditional stuff like traditional chinese or scottish or whatever music sounds better. Jazz and stuff is also nice.
Umm... hate to break it to you Mr. Mojo but "All about that bass" does NOT contain a key change. Just because someone's singing higher or lower does NOT mean they changed key!!
WhateverIsTrue01 I don't think you heard the full explanation. He said that it was a change in pitch (such as singing higher or lower, possibly in the background of the song) or an actual key change. ..I apologize right now for the text wall qoq
Melanie Martinez's fans are so freaking annoying. I swear everytime I enter to a video of a real famous singer there they are, complaining about how underrated she is. GET OVER IT, she'll never be as famous as this people, and she doesn't need it at all. She is an amazing artist who doesn't need the whole world loving her. She's doing completely fine.
as a fan of Melanie (not on an obsessed level but I do really like her) I agree, everyone needs to calm down about her being underrated by commenting everywhere on RU-vid :/
as a fan of Melanie (not on an obsessed level but I do really like her) I agree, everyone needs to calm down about her being underrated by commenting everywhere on RU-vid :/
Meh..........I'm a casual fan and I like her music but I won't do what the other fans do.... And chill out complaining about how her fans are annoying isn't going to stop them.........(sorry if this sounds offensive)
Matt Garza Melanie is Extremely overrated now. I love her music! I've loved it for 2 years. But her fans have been so extremely annoying and they act like she's so underrated. She's NOT. she does not fit with this crowd
Lol complaining that pop music is meaningless and cheasy is like complaining that fast food is unhealthy. Pop isn't made to be deep and meaningful it is made to make people happy and to have a good time....
You wanna have a good feeling while listening to real music that goes in your head, heart and skin? Grab your headphones and listen to Beethoven's 5th sonata. May sound lame, it's everything but.
The "I Want to Hold Your Hand" argument got old in 2011. Nice song, but let's not act like they don't have a song called Why Don't We Do It On The Road?
+Nerf Gamingninja oooh shit I'm offended by a joke from a fucking 12 year old, why don't you make use your time and go back to school dipshit? Can't even spell an insult right stop being a piece of shit ^.^
You see? You are so brain washed by the pop music industry that you don't even realize that there is thousand of others theme that have been used throughout the history of music to name a few: Life, Death, Religion, Politics, human condition , philosophy, history, mythology, society, nature... and of course many others yet to be discovered.
The computer is my type. The computer is my life. I'm constantly pressing many keys. I mostly use WASD. Steam is really fun But Five Nights at Freddy's is overdone Gonna watch RU-vid, But not FaceBook Going on Rule 34 sites to see how they look But I need my keyboard for all these stuff Or I would have to use a touchscreen that is not enough Praising Trump and getting bitten Praising Clinton and I'm a kitten Keyboard, keyboard, you're my fave. You're so awesome, I'll name you Dave Hacking websites for the joy The keyboard is my favorite toy Typing a comment about a keyboard song Make sure I did not type wrong Dissing people behind a screen Do it with my keys to be mean My keyboard batteries are drainng rAINING
+LordAteag look up her RU-vid channel now, she posts occasional singing videos and they aren't bad. And omg I'm soooo sorry!!😫 you're right!! I need to learn how to spell "you" bc I obviously thought "u" is the proper way! Thank you so much for opening my eyes and helping me become a better person!😊
Some of the most common music tropes, in general, are related to love, sex, and drugs. You can hardly go through any music artist's entire discography without at least finding a song or ten about love or sex (not that writing about these things itself are bad, but they can be written in a very typical and pretty boring way sometimes).
Pop music is supposed to be fun and happy, it doesn't have to have a message, you have fun and dance to the music that's all, and millions of people LOVE pop music, that's why it's called POP music
+gdnam32 If it doesn't have to have a message, then why do they try to have "meaningful" lyrics that are the most cliche thing ever? Why have lyrics at all? That's what electronic music is for, like edm and house and trance...just fun beats to dance to. No pretense.
+Martin Wilhelmsson supersized drum kits, hitting higher and higher notes, singing really loud for no reason, the slow song to get radio play, fire and explosions, concept album, praising their prowess in bed, playing or singing while on their knees, long hair and making monster faces, leather pants.
+Martin Wilhelmsson Probably gonna be something like: 1. Guitar solos. 2. Denim and Leather. 3. Swearing. 4. Lyrics criticising society or the government. 5. Lyrics about alcohol. 6. Song peaking with a bridge leading to the final 2 choruses after a guitar solo. 7. Ad libs/improvised vocals near the end of a song. 8. Guitar pedals/effects (as comparison to autotune I guess, since both can be overused or used as a special "touch"). 9. Scream/falsetto outta nowhere. 10. Headbanging/"wild" behaviour on stage. Anyway, rock and metal rules \m/
Especially since it's an amateur song, not a professional song, a girl did for fun and to put on her resume to go the a music school. And when it had a couple hundred views Tosh.O made fun of her. And made her infamous. People seriously thought she was trying to get famous. I feel bad for her and us for watching the video.
Does anyone notice that heavy metal is the opposite of pop in terms of sex? It's very sexless and conservative, and instead of beautiful, sexy images, it replaces them with revolting and gory images of death, hatred, mutilation, and intellectual themes.
Do Bap they are heavy metal, but they don't count as singing about just "sex" persay. they would never just sing about mindless slutty worthless stupid pointless sex. it always had connotations of love, affection, and sophistication or philosophy of some kind.
Ian Hoswell take the lemon song for example. Its about a woman using a man for sex and he cant quit. You hear the emotions in plants voice shine. Over top of pages dirty, sexy blues riff, jones fantastic basslines and bonhams incrediable drumming. And people say songs need to be simple and stupid to be fun
TØP uses auto-tune in a unique way in a few songs. Using it to lower a voice for artistic appeal which I love. It enhances the song and shows how modern artist don't have to follow the trends but bend them.
ATTENTION I'M A PRETENTIOUS DOUCHE WHO ONLY LISTENS TO ROCK AND METAL BECAUSE I THINK I'M SMARTER THAN ANYONE WHO LISTENS TO POP MUSIC, GIVE ME THE BEST MUSIC TASTE AWARD BECAUSE I'M FUCKING AWESOME AND THE MUSIC I LISTEN TO IS BETTER!
Jorge López Haha that's what I'm noticing in the comments but to be honest this applies to almost any genre fanatic. There's nothing more pathetic than people bragging about their music tastes or whining about "bad" music. If you think the music crap, then it's crap to you, as simple as that. It doesn't really make you a "better" or a more intelligent person if others don't share your musical tastes.
I HATE THE CLICHE WHERE A ARTIST/BAND TURNS INTO A POP ARTIST/BAND! Anybody agree? It's like a childhood ruined music. For example: Rock Maroon V becomes Pop Maroon V
another cliche is using Nana is songs oh nana whats my name - Rihanna - What's my name baby i want you nana - Beyonce - drunk i love ooh nana look what you done started - Trey songz - nana make a change nana nana na nana - Michael jackson - man in the mirror over used a lot lol
and several others like using these phrases: 1.- "you know what I mean" 2.- "what am I supposed o do?" 3.-"Is up to you" 4.-"I love you" 5.-"girl, can't help it" ...... and so on.
TheJayson8899 your right I haven't. I mostly just listen to Progressive rock/metal and jazz. However, I get bet that the worst prog band has more talent than the best pop artist.
So, take away love themes, having fun, break up songs, inspirational and self-empowering themes...and you're left what exactly? Songs about death and depression? The sad state of the world? I'm kind of grasping to figure out what up-lifing themes are left. And the fact that most genres of music are full of these themes as well simply make them music themes...not cliches.
what a funny joke That may be true to a certain extent but not when lyrics are part of the music. Even the most poetic lyrics with obscure meanings have a theme that can be felt. If a song with an upbeat tempo has lyrics with a grief and loss theme, you still feel the meaning behind the words irregardless of how the music pleases you. Music is already capable of translating a multitude of emotions and creating images in our minds without lyrics. And contrary to what you say, music is definitely not all about making sounds that are pleasing to the ear. That's a huge element, sure. But music isn't just sounds strung together to be pleasing -- it's an art. And art is sometimes painful. There are many types of music that are hard to hear, not because they sound bad, but because what they convey to the soul. Now, add the power of words to what power music already had on it's own, and you have something that connects humans together through the soul. This is isn't saying that pop music and country and rock and all the sub-genres (but pop especially) aren't without their lazy lyrics, rehashed sounds and bland takes on core themes especially as of the last 10 years. But that's just it...love, love lost, feeling happy, joy, friendship, encouragement, confidence...these are CORE to the human experience. You can't express an idea that is rooted in emotion without tapping into core themes. So, no, it's not about being uplifting. But IS about sharing what it means to be human, themes dubbed 'cliche' included.
You can write songs about everything, about despair, about hope, about living in a place where you feel rejected, about peer pressure, about what makes you happy (and you boyfriend or girlfriend is not the only thing that makes you happy in life), about madness, you can do protest songs, against war in Irak (or whereever), to defend your religious or political beliefs, historical stuff like how the american natives were murdered, or you can use abstract poetry as your lyrics to set up a mood... The list is endless
@@ikhaatjullieallemaalpersoo5715 Be on your hood? Haha! Dutch expression. "Watch your back" I'd say. (For the non Dutch: user name means "I hate you all, individually") 😁
The most cliched thing related to pop music is the circle jerk that it's "bad" when its critics seem to miss the point that it's just meant to be fun. It gets criticism for being mindless and redundant, but I see that as its quality. It is perfect for partying or letting loose due to its mindlessness and can be put into a setlist without having to be concerned as much about mood shifts/ tempo changes. There are plenty of other genres for those interested in stimulating other interests.
@@TheBslep he wasn't even belitting anyone or anything all he said was that songs with "great lyrics" and well-composed instruments are fun... Don't try and turn his comment into something it isn't so you can get your point across...
Jeffrey Dailey Rascal Flatts has a song titled "Backwards", which talks about what happens when you play a country song backwards: "You get your house back, you get your dog back..." Country pop at its finest and funniest.
fake channel most her fans are people who were fans of her when she was on Nickelodeon but the general public only see her as a wannabe Marian Carey but she only has generic pop songs for radio
Real Tallkk Wrong, she makes R & B songs also very often, like one of her hits, One Last Time... It's R & B and Pop mixed together but you could categorize it as R & B
There was a saying once upon a time: "Once you figure out those chords, you are now a popstar and there is literally no turning back from the rabbit hole."
I hate people who come here and say ' Thats why I listen to rock, thats why I listen to 80s music, the music now isnt music' blah blah blah. Everyone has their own taste in music. Just because you don't like a genre in music doesn't mean its trash. Grow up and stop being ignorant.
Four chord progression is used in some of the greatest non-pop hits. Oasis songs were full of them, as were the likes of Stone Roses, The Jam, Blur and even the likes of the Rolling Stones and the Beatles
People, we really need to stop clinging to the same stale entertainers. I emphasize "entertainers" because most of these so called "artists" are not that. They don't create art. Pink Floyd's Dogs, that's art. Rush's 2112, that's art. Cheap Trick's Surrender, art. Talking Heads' Born Under Punches, art. Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun, art.
SPIT BALL 007 What do you mean by that? I could understand if you don't like them but most songs period have meaning to them. I think you meant songs that have deep meaning to them and in that case i agree with you.
Jashaan Brown No. Pop songs in 2015 hardly have any substance or meaning. What can one say now that wasn't said in the 2000s. Pop music is terrible and they aren't meant to convey a meaning with words, but make you feel a certain way with the Hook/Melody and the beat itself.
What I learned from this video was that Ariana Grande is Cliche AF lol. Update: For all the ignorant people i aint saying she is cliche in the video it has her on their list multiple times. so don't get all booty hurt on me. Sips tea-
Ariana Grande didn't say "who i really are" she said "who i really am" but pronounced am like om. It's a stylistic choice called "tall vowels". Fact check your entries before you post them.
+Asdayasman System of a Down - B.Y.O.B's chorus ends with "la la la la la la la la la laa, oooooohhh!" Although it's a bit different and matches the guitar riff. SOAD are also amazingly weird, too. :) Idk why I needed to post this but here.
I bet most of the people commenting stuff like, who cares what you listen to, opinions bla bla, don't be an elitist, etc are the ones who listen to pop
Yeah x) Mostly because of what this video is saying. It's just a "top ten of cliché". They don't say "stop it" do they ? They might say it's bad at some point because it's overused, badly used... and people feel the need to come in the comment to defend pop music, because it's attacked, because they don't want to think that people could not like pop when, actually, the songs they listen to might be original and awesome. Or not, but then it's their taste against mine.
You do realize the rid are hundreds of themes songs can be about. War, politics, drug addiction, alcoholism mythology, history, religion, self-reflection, literature, revenge, anger, etc. hell, Metallica made a song about Cthulhu.
