Disagree on Cher & Josh. Josh and Cher never had a sibling bond, and they didn't even grew up together. People need to learn that step doesn't mean necessarily to have a family bond.
@@tmr3421 And that doesn't make sense. There were times in that movie that he stood up for her. But let's be honest, Cher wasn't the most down to earth being, he didn't have to agree on everything she did... For example, on how she was interfering in Tai's life.
Plus, it's based on Jane Austen's Emma, so it makes no sense for her to be with anyone else. Unless they want to take it up with Jane, who is very long dead.
Yep, Nate getting mad at Andy in the devil wears prada for having a demanding job always rubbed me the wrong way. She would have been better off without him.
@violet baudelaire I do agree with that, and if I'm being honest, having not seen the movie yet all I've heard from this movie makes me think Anne Hathaway's character was probably in a toxic working environment, and I would definitely tell her to quit too (tell me if I'm wrong tho lol)
naah, You don't understand the lesson of that movie. Andy will end up like Miranda's life if she continue that path. Miranda have a successful career but she was not happy.
yea but that demanding job was something she didn't even really like... and i think i would have been pretty upset if my s/o took something they hate over me - someone i thought they liked.
violet baudelaire Andy was a young college graduate with no experience trying to break in to a competitive field . She had to pay her dues! She only had to work that job for one year and it could’ve opened doors for her. Now if you’re established in your career and you’re neglecting your significant other that’s one thing but this was her first job out of school and it’s not going to be ideal, fun or accommodating. Furthermore, they lived in New York and the cost of living there is outrageously expensive. You have to work! Nate was being self centered and immature, period! There’s couples out here who barely see each other because they’re busy working multiple jobs/going to school/taking care of kids, etc. trying to make ends meat. Plenty of women deal with men who work long hours because it allows them a comfortable life. My parents worked opposite shifts growing up because they weren’t comfortable putting us in daycare. My point is Andy was making sacrifices that many people make everyday trying to be successful and prosper. She was not drugging, drinking or partying. She was just working long hours.
@@cristinarivera5707 She wasn't just working long hours. She worked for an abusive boss who even outside of working hours called her to pass tasks, leaving her stressed and consequently, ending any quality time she could have in her "free time". She couldn't even get dinner with her father.
I hate this modern trope of "the guy who got there first is the best guy" usually these men are manipulative, abusive, bad communicators, and only have "good tropes" like being hot and rich.
Yep! My first serious relationship was with a guy who later on became very abusive. I am now engaged to a guy who I was friends with during that other relationship. Sometimes better things come along!
Your evidence for Cher and Josh is unfounded. Josh was the one who understood her the whole time. He knows the kind of person she is and his criticism comes from wanting her to be more than she thinks. He pushes her to be better! Plus, he is always there for her when she needs him. He takes her driving, picks her up from the sun valley, goes to a party, and always talks to her. You spent too much time trying to convince people of this perfect match and not enough time on the ridiculousness of Something Borrowed!
Cher and Josh complement each other. He totally gets her and she brings some fun to his seriousness. They fit perfectly. The early bickering always seemed to come from a close connection and not from any animosity.
Shouldn't this just be called "bad movie couples" instead of characters that pick the wrong guy? Half or these movies didn't present an alternative guy for the main character to chose. Although I appreciate the instances nowhere there was and they said neither one was a good option.
@somber stricken that’s not what fridging is. They don’t die to drive the plot forward. Though I hate in movies where they put the nice guy in when everyone knows they don’t have a chance. Creating sequels with these plots are such a waste of time. They tease a little drama that goes nowhere in the end, leaving the girl with who she was with in the first place
@@raybrown9543 I know what it means to fridge, I was just saying that they create these innocent characters, that have no other purpose than to give the protagonist a hard choice. I didn't mean that they killed literally off the boyfriends.
Cher and Josh should not be on this list! They are not considered step siblings anymore because their parents got divorced so they should have the right to be together if they want.(If they were still step siblings then THAT would be gross) Plus they are so cute together and you can tell from the look on Cher's face that she is happy with their decition.
I agree one million percent. Why do people think she chose wrong? They loved each other before they met and Joe knew it and he knew they'd be perfect together. Besides, the final words by Kathleen tells it all: "I wanted it to be you. I wanted it to be you so badly."
It's stupid to say that Josh didn't understand Cher. When it comes to Clueless it's almost entirely from Cher's perspective. I'm pretty sure there is only one scene she's not a part of and it's about her anyway. We don't really get into Josh's head, we know how Cher describes him, we know how he acts and what he says but Cher is the narrator and pretty unreliable if you ask me. Not because she's lying or anything like that but because she's literally clueless.
Seriously. I think she should have picked John especially in the books, where they made Peter’s hangups on Gen even more clear. And I just generally did not like book Peter.
@@beckyb.2549 book Peter was the worst. I had a theory where the author, Jenny Han, made the third book just to have it as Peter's redemption book. Because she made it 2 years after the second book was released and it was a shock for all the fans because there were no notices that she's releasing a 3rd book lol.
Actually in the wedding planner she didn't run away from her wedding to run off with Steve. She thought he was getting married. She ran away from her wedding because she realized she shouldn't be getting married to someone she wasn't in love with. Steve is the one who left his wedding to run away with her although his end to the wedding was a mutual thing between him and his fiance
And she didn't actually "run away". Massimo let her go because he knew she wouldn't be happy. She was perfectly willing to marry him, but he let her go.
Likewise, I know that in showbiz, you have to sacrifice a lot for success, which includes romantic relationships. But even though Mia and Sebastian are both separately fulfilled, it STILL comes as a shock to learn that they ultimately went their separate ways. 😭💔
@@trinaq Sebastian sacrificed success for a militant vision. In real life he's the guy whining that no one has integrity and self sabotages rather than compromise a little to get a lot
Yessss! Exactly. I hated how her friends were keeping her from her phone and giving her a hard time, right after she gave them all expensive gifts. Pissed me off.
@@anthyavila9726 well it's applied. It doesn't show if they actually do. When they meet for coffee and they're more mature about the situation and what not.
No. If Peter truly had an respect for Lara Jean he wouldn’t force her to be around a girl who bullied her relentlessly, even in front of him, invited Gen to the treehouse party and most of all protected her when she filmed that video! An absolute deal breaker! Yea LJ was still figuring out how to be in a relationship, it was her first one, and she was insecure, but what hope could she have of ever being truly comfortable when Peter constantly lied about his interactions with Gen and never truly stood up for her. (It’s even worse in the book)
"Gatsby was obsessed with her, and Tom wanted to control her"- huh... Af if Daisy would appreciate someone who treated her good unless she could take advantage of the man.
Yeah Daisy's always been ridiculously annoying to me. When I first saw the Great Gatsby my junior year of High School I thought her and Jay were cute together. That changed after the ending where she doesn't even show up for his funeral and stays with her shitty husband for money essentially. Her cousin was the only one heartbroken about his best friends death. Yeah Daisy's the worst
You are soooo... aright, he is a super guy in every movie, but I kind of relief that un The Notebook Lando doesn't end up with Allie; he deserves better than the undecided and obsessive drama queen that she is
I have to agree... Noah and Allie had a great first love but I think the movie would've been just as good if they'd both moved on and then after a number of years their spouses died and they found their way back to each other and lived out their old age together
Yeah she deserves the la la land love story of a man who loves her so much her happiness and realizing her dreams is worth more to him than just being with her
I agree with most of the list but Cher?? I don't get why she shouldn't be with Josh, I mean he's in his way to be a lawyer and his father and Cher knows him, he's also a great guy and he had a great connection with her.
Cher and Josh are perfect together, its ridiculous to state otherwise. Clueless is an adaptation of Jane Austen's Emma. Cher = Emma, a matchmaker who doesnt realise she's in love with her sister's brother-in-law until its almost too late. Clueless removed the sister and sister's husband from the equation, but not the timeless romance that is central to the plot and theme!!
I agree, in every Romance James Marsden is in they always choose someone else when he is the better choice. I agree with a few choices on this list but not about Cher. I love them together!
But if they chosen "the wrong guy" doesn't that mean that maybe they didn't like the guy that liked them, in that way? Isn't that called "unrequited love"? You cannot force yourself to love someone, no matter how much you might like them as a person. Plus, these are movies that were completely made up in fiction. Even so, let women choose who they want to be with, love is a two-way street, not a one-way.
I don't think they mean it as factual. Just their opinion on who should have been endgame. Of course women are allowed to date who they want. But people are still going to have an opinion. You've never had a friend who's boyfriend or girlfriend you thought was a complete moron? Their right to date, your right to cringe.
They literally asked viewers to pick who they wish had been chosen in these movies it's not as deep as you're trying to make it out to be. More than likely most of these choices were picked by women viewers 😂 no one is attacking our right to choose
Cher and Josh were great together!! I love their relationship And for Mia and Sebastian, I thought their romance was a more realistic portrayal of how romances sometimes just can't work out, when you're going off in different directions
I liked the La La Land ending. Personally I thought the fact that they didn't end up together fit with the fact that their relationship started with both of them working towards their dreams, and they naturally grew apart as their paths diverged. I think La La Land works as a movie because it's so seeped in nostalgia and their relationship is coloured by those rosy lens. But the reality is more complicated and I think the movie showed why their relationship worked better as a nostalgic memory of the foibles of youth.
YEEESSS. One of the only dramas where this didn't happen was "Dream High" ♡ She ends up with the nice guy. And "Heirs" is complicated because the other guy is actually kind of mean. (OG Kdrama fan lol)
@@TheWannabeTexan I think the heirs actually is the only one who didn't made a bad guy male lead and let him get the girl and the nice guy was the one girl loved.... Idk why ppl hate it and wanted the bully to get the girl.. I love the heirs, mostly all characters was well explained and get what they deserved...
Most of the movie was him trying to change for her. All of the sports was him trying to change for her. Her only change was at the end... and that was just her looks. I think what is implied at the end is that it didn’t matter. As is typical with teens, back then as well as now, there is too much pressure on how you are perceived.
dont get me wrong i love john, but she just didnt feel for him what she did for peter. Peter and Lara jean did have the occasional toxic moment but they always work it out. The movies did them dirty.
So on board with La La Land and Pretty in Pink! Also, Thank you for finally acknowledging that Danny changed in Grease as well! I get so frustrated when people criticize Grease because Sandy "had to" change to get the guy (she CHOSE to change), but never acknowledge Danny's changing either, so thank you. As for Gatsby (which also fires me up despite my loathing it), Daisy was afraid of rejecting Tom. Tom scared her into not standing up for herself, and honestly, if you really look at the story, Gatsby didn't truly love her either by the end, she was just a goal for him (I did a huge college paper on this story, so I've spent an exorbitant amount of time with it, and it's extremely obvious when you look at it closely).
The funny thing is that in the third book she falls in love with another man and Massimo becomes more violent. The problem is that this other man is a rival mobster of Massimo, whom she knows because he also kidnaps her. The book pretends that the second mobster is the real Prince Charming, but it is very naive to think that the guy, another criminal, will not treat her the same as Massimo if she tells him that she abandons him for his worst enemy, after having lost a son.
Omg... how can you bash on you’ve got mail?! That’s my all time favorite Romantic comedy and feel good film! He likes her and when he realizes she’s the pen pal he starts treating her better and it’s so cute!
I’m with you. I feel like both Noah and Lee had really terrible relationships with Elle. I haven’t seen the second one because the first seemed so messed up to me.
Um, excuse me, the phrasing 'Mia makes the safe choice and succeeds in her career, but the audience knows what she could have had' just rubs me extremely wrong here. The main thing this couple loved about each other was that they were both extremely driven people with very ambitios dreams regarding their separate fields. It was basically in the premise that it wouldn't last because sooner or later their dreams will be more important than their relationship. And if we are being completely fair, they were in a situation where it would have been easier for Seb to adapt to her. He didn't have anything at the time that wouldn't let him move with her. But of course we expect the girl to compromise and put her career on hold to keep a relationship together. If she did it would be basically the situation you condemned The Devil Wears Prada for earlier, only here it would be worth it, because Ryan Gosling is dashing and slightly more supportive.
27 dresses - Jane Nichols; She was in love with her boss, realized that they had nothing in common and that he wasn't "the one" when she finally kissed him. Kevin was "the one" because she had a connection with him and they had a lot of things in common
ok but for To All The Boys 2, i thought that lara jean and peter were meant to be. i love john ambrose but i think that lana and noah have more chemistry than her and jordan. both men are great
Keanu Reeves has always been a fox. In WHAT universe would any woman pick Nicolson's character over Reeves'? - and it's not just the aesthetic. Nope! I'll comfort you, Dr Keanu ❤
I agree with #10 Andy, she deserved so much better and her friends were rude too. # 7 Mary, is disagree to a degree. I dont think Mary would have been happy with her marriage to Massimo, that was the point of her dad calling it off. He wanted her to be happy.
My picks. 1) Christine Daaé (because of Love Never Dies how Raoul’s an abusive alcoholic.) 2) Lara Jean. John Ambrose is better in EVERY way. 3) Sandy from Grease because Danny is horrible.
Unfortunately, in the movie “After” storyline with Zed was left apart, but while reading the books I was shipping Zed and Tessa, because her relationship with Hardin shows aspects of toxic relationships, which destroy people from the inside. About Kissing Booth, unfortunately, I haven’t read the books yet, but I 100% agree, that she should’ve been in a relationship with Marco, because I think, that their connection is way stronger than with Noah...
I don’t understand everyone’s issue with step-sibling romances when the characters never considered each other siblings. How is it worse than best friends who were practically siblings growing up falling for each other? That trope everyone gets behind but not steps?
Sky high : layla and warren 🤦🏾♀️ she shoulda picked Warren clearly they had on screen chemistry . Instead sis picked Will , had me so mad as a kid lol
I didn't really liked Nate, but it is tough to see the person you love working in a place that makes her feel bad and is constantly absuded by their boss. Plus, no one wants to be in a relationship where the other person is never there.
I have an issue with people bashing on the devil wears prada. If that were a guy who was neglecting his gf everyone would rally behind her telling her she deserves better and then cheer when he realized she was worth more than any job. And Cher and Josh are iconic. Fight me.
I'm okay with Lara Jean going back to Peter, because she actually did love him and I like them as a couple. Yes, John Ambrose is a great guy. But clearly, he's not meant for Lara Jean. I'm also fine with Kathleen and Joe ending up together at the end of, "You've Got Mail." Same thing with Cher and Josh ("Clueless") and Mary and Steve ("The Wedding Planner"). Speaking of Mary in, "The Wedding Planner," the marriage was called off by Massimo - not Mary. See, that's why paying attention to the movie is so important. Oh! And by the way, it *was* entirely Andie's decision to make. She made the decision to leave her job for *herself*, and that decision was made all on her own. She didn't make that decision for Nate. She made it for *herself*, because she didn't want to be like Miranda. *MY TOP 2 HORRIBLE COUPLES:* Christian and Anastasia ("Fifty Shades" franchise), and Andie and Blaine ("Pretty in Pink").
Fun fact: In the original version of Pretty in Pink she does actually end up with Ducky but test audiences hated it because she didnt end up with the 'handsome' choice. So they changed the ending. Sometimes I wish they would release this version for all the Ducky enthusiasts out there.
Your comment demonstrated why it's important to understand simple concepts of potential preconditions that contribute to eventual outcomes before making self certain claims that don't actually refute the videos nonchalant notes of certain preconditions. It is clearly set up for instance the dynamic between andy and her friends as a contribution regardless of the final choice events framing without them in sight. Yes it is interpretable as her making choice for herself but it also makes more sense to take into account the prior composition otherwise you're insinuating the rest are wasted time that contributed nothing to the narrative and a clear event driven narrative is clearly what they were going for in that movie
I completely forgot that it was Massimo who called off the wedding, tho I did just remember it was because he knew she didn't love him back the same way I think. As for The Devil Wears Prada, haven't seen the movie but I was certain she probably quit because of her boss and not because of the boyfriend. Considering the title of the movie I'm assuming the work environment wasn't the best anyway. I probably wouldn't wanna work there. And as for TATBILB, I wholeheartedly agree that Lara Jean is better off with Peter. One bump in the road shouldn't mean let's break up, and they are so cute together
Christian is just a guy who suffered from childhood abuse and now have the need to feel in control. But the Ana is teaching him to finally leave it behind and show him that he doesn't need to be in control all the time. I just wanna see the character growth for Christian.
@@magicalpasta5462 he's trying to change already. And she's the one who makes him what to change himself. So that he doesn't do things that she doesn't want. Isn't that something at least?
I love the comment about pretty in pink, about how just because ur the nice guy doesn’t mean the girl owes you a relationship. I feel like this happens a lot with my sisters. They have a bunch of male friends who are great to their, and she loves them, but then people expect her to date them just because of that, when all she wants is what she has, which is a great friend
Okay so despite Danny acting like a douchebag in front of his friends can we acknowledge that he did try to become a guy who sandy would like after she started dating Tom. He tried out for multiple different sports and ended up taking up running. Sandy obviously wasn't that amazing either since she dropped Tom the moment Danny fell over.
Just because John Ambrose is the prince charming of the series doesn't mean that she should choose him. LJ and Peter clearly need to work on communication, and it is very easy to do they just need to do it. A lot of relationships these days ignore how important communication is and they stop trying to make it work. I look forward to them working on their relationship and putting more effort into it. If they truly care about each other then they will want to work on it. And yes Marco is much better and Noah should date Chloe because they clearly work together very well. Or in all honesty, Marco looks old enough to be in their circle and HE should date Chloe 😂
La la land and clueless doesn't deserve to be here. Reality is good in la la land and josh and Cher are perfect for each other. Other than that the list is good, I can't believe she didn't choice keanu reeves and pretty in pink they were all horrible.
For To All The Boys, I feel like if you're an adult, you choose John Ambrose, but if you're still a teen, you choose Peter. Peter, in my opinion, is that first love that you have that springboards you into who you are going to be. They challenge you, help you figure out what parts of yourself you like and what parts you want to grow in. I would choose John Ambrose. The thing is he's a mature 30 year old in a 16/17 year old's body. Lara Jean will appreciate that more once she's discovered more of herself and what she wants out of life long term.
I used to hate the La La Land ending but now i appreciate that they didnt end up together. It gave them room to pursue their dreams and its sad but they loved each other enough to let each other go
I DEFINITELY disagree with La La Land. That's what makes it so special! They fell in love, but then they moved on. It's real life, not a fantasy. That's LITERALLy why it's called "La La Land".
I’m glad John Ambrose didn’t end up with Lara Jean. She wasn’t good enough for him. And she led him on. I didn’t like how she treated him. She should be with Peter. Both annoying
100% agreed with Sandy. In the original movie she pretty much acted like naive little girl who lost so she could get the guy. No much personality. However, in the live TV performance with the new cast they do Rectify that and I actually appreciate Julianne Hough's portrayal of Sandy better in that stage performance because Sandy had the fire already in her before her big transformation as the end. Also, her relationship with Danny was more fleshed-out than it initially was in turn shows that they are healthy couple. That is something that I the original failed at.
Ugh Nate is the worst! I love The Devil Wears Prada, but can't stand her friends and boyfriend. When she gives them all that free stuff, and they take her phone, then get mad at her. It pisses me off everytime.
I disagree with most of them. Physical attraction in important in relationship. And if someone is obsessed with the other, doesn’t mean that is the right person for them. I think that is beginning of a very unheathy relationship. For me is the Romance movie character who picked the wrong guy Jodi from Tall Girl. Jack Dunkleman looks like he is twelve, is manipulative, emotional addict and obsessed with her, which is really not good for the relationship.
La la land's ending broke me into pieces n to all boys i have loved before still confuses me...who was the perfect one for lara jean,john was a nice guy but she nvr felt that connection which she did with peter but again peter n lara had communication problem in the second...so it's still confusing