Pretty much yeah. Actually he created the God(Lord Death) who essentially created the Soul Eater storyline. So basically. Shinra is the All Father of a whole Universe.
Yeap, Fire force started Soul eater's universe, what is kind crazy 'cause i watched Soul eater before Fire force, so realize that those stories belongs to the same universe (but different generations) was a little crazy to me hahaha but i loved and now i gonna have to watch soul eater again
Man I appreciate y’all giving fire force so much love. The power system is one of the most creative I’ve ever seen. It’s crazy how they took one element and created dozens of abilities. The writing allowed for anything that was a stretch, apart of the canon. then turned the whole story into a prequel. Your analysis is really good. You made a some convincing arguments in the rankings. In actuality, a lot of the combatants are in the same tier - still, these 10 would give anyone problems regardless of context, or the imagination buffs.
I agree with you so much because in many anime that I have seen fire users just spam fire balls and flamethrowers but fire force was so creative and showed so many different variations and possibilities of this one power
Was most interested to see how you placed Benimaru , Arthur and Dragon.. The implication of Benimaru true strength I feel out does Arthur/Dragon.. Can't wait till these fights are animated
Wait has benimaru finally shown his full power, last time I read the manga he fodderized his doppleganger and his old sensei. He was handled piss poor so I ended up dropping the manga, it got to wacky after a while.
@@avalac7412 Then you're missing out. Also that was Beni's last fight but at the end Tamaki says "Some people who were already super strong before are now stronger than ever" and it shows Benimaru.
Bro even at the end of the manga, he never had trouble with any of his fights and even against his doppleganger who could destroy the whole, Beni 1 shot him.
@@deadmankino595 Yeah it's like when you think they finally met their match they just destroy them easily and we realise that we have no idea how strong they actually are.
I wish more people were as enthusiastic for fire force as you are. This manga was one of the best ive read in a while. The connection to soul eater and the connections between the cataclysms are insane and mind boggling
*I've only skimmed through the Fire force anime but this is crazy. Went from breaking stone pillars to warping reality and making new universes. I thought DBZ had the craziest up-scaling but this takes it.*
Gurren Lagann and Saint Seiya are the anime/manga I've personally seen with the most growth, though Shinra can be argued to be above them depending on how you scale them
@@STONKSAHOY he can create he is scaled as low outerversal and its nothing big for an outerversal character to create a multiverse universe is nithing fir them
@@dawginft2815 Yes, I’ve also read the entirety of the manga. Why are you asking that? He’s using Joker chipping Shōs sword as if it is a feat. I’m not saying it is or isn’t, but he now has a burden to prove Shōs sword possesses durability that is difficult to bypass. You don’t know how to scale lol go away
@@GothamThotSlayer His doppelganger is what people perceive him to be(A monster capable of burning the planet) and he fodderized it lol then proceed to say, they underestimated him HAHAHA.
I think Joker should be on a list too, but sadly we couldn't really see his full potential, but its already clear that Joker is one hell of a beast too.
These are some of Shinra's abilities: Matter manipulation Elemental manipulation Transmutation Intangibility Irrelevant speed Teleportation Irrelevant strength Infinite force generation Fate manipulation Time manipulation Soul manipulation Soul empowerment Energy manipulation Nullification Memory manipulation Manipulation over Life Manipulation over Death Existence erasure Imagination creation Reality warping Universal rewrite Manipulation over the Laws of Physics Concept manipulation God creation So in conclusion he became OP asf. 👍
@@that_guy55 did you forget the common broken speed feats, power to control life and death, powers that rival and/or surpass gods them selves, and there abilities to block universal destruction power, and can make universes so they can be the savior or god of that universe.
Another great video guys! And this one was, as you said, very fun to watch! Seeing the top 10 strongest characters listing them off one by one, showing off their own respective OP abilities, traits, and how all their abilities tie into the unique and creative power system of this series. Thank you once again and can’t wait for more guys! (My favorite is Haumea.)
I really wanted to get more with Faerie, such an interesting character that just didn’t get the attention he deserved! Same with Dragon, but at least he got an a absolutely EPIC fight
My ranking would probably go this way: 10-Demon Hibachi (he managed to hold his own for an extended period of time against Benimaru and could evaporate a crater like portion of water without even touching it) 9-Charon (Dude could tank Continental attacks and throw them back) 8-Faeri (He can somewhat stop time and his gravity power is OP as hell) 7-Sho (He can stop time and defeated Faeri) 6-Dragon (He tanked Charon's final blast without taking any damage and his legendary clash against Arthur could have wrecked the planet!) 5-Arthur (He managed to kill Dragon with an Earth rendering attack) 4-Doppel Benimaru (Can create attacks comparable to Arthur's strongest without taking as much effort and is the strongest in human subconcsiousness) 3-Benimaru (After the pillars emerged, his power kept growing exponentionally, going from a mountain wrecker to being able to one shot his doppelganger who could burn the entire world!) 2-Woman of Despair Haumea (She has so many powers it isn't even funny: lightspeed nuclear blast, pseudo Spider-Sense, reality warping, barrier creations...) 1-Shinra Shinrabansho man (He casually defeated Haumea and repaired the world and even created Shinigami, a being even stronger than him!) (Honorable mentions to Kurono and Burns)
you forgot to mention that dragon tanked a blast STRONGER THAN A NUKE (the last blast charon deflected), which launched him into space and he came out completely unscathed and was DECIDING WHETHER TO COME BACK TO EARTH ON A WHIM
@@corpsie1241 just to add something small to his durability I mean if he mentioned the og fight with arthur and friends then that should have been mentioned
Right when he wasn't apart of the final battle and let shinra do everything I dropped the series. I guess the mangaka couldn't find someone strong enough to challenge him.
@@avalac7412 he’s not the MC he’s not gonna fight the MCs fight against the final villain that makes no sense at all. and haumea/evangelist would 1 shot him shinra needed to turn into a god to surpass them
@@jcm14 I get where you're coming from but i'm saying he was under utilized that's legit it. there is no other argument against that, the mangaka hyped up his full power, kept it under wraps all the way till the end, he never once had to unleash it. he could've atleast assisted in the matter
@@avalac7412 I’m glad he didn’t have Beni fight any of Shinra’s fights. It stayed true to his character and didn’t do what every anime does: Make the broken character look weak later on. I’m glad he got to still be super cool and consistent in the end. Since he stayed a grumpy and laidback powerhouse the whole series.
To put it in perspective, Arthur and dragon would be able to atleast have a nice stern conversation within Saiyan Saga Piccolo who casually destroyed the moon when Gohan rampaged while he was training him. Multiplanetary at the very least. Not multiversal tho. Shinra seems like he might be omnipotent or at the very least Zeno level or nigh omnipotent since he can create and destroy worlds with ease you love to see it.
Nah. The Tenchi Muyo cast alone would drop him out of the top 5. Then you have TTGL, Space Dandy, and Dragon Ball that would kick him out of the top 10, if not the top 20.
It's funny how Beni casually used 2 fingers to one shot his doppelganger. ✌️ Fingers. I was like 😨😱🤯... I saw a comment somewhere of someone saying, if Beni tried he could jump to Galaxy level with ease, and I totally agree with that... Btw, that's if he "TRIED" 😅. Imagine if he was pissed and serious 💀. Nice video again. Really love how you make your videos. Would really love to see your take on 7DS.
SO you could say Fire Force takes place over 800 years prior to the events of Soul Eater. Shinigami and his squad hunted the witches and demons 800 years before the story around Maka, Kid and Black Star took place. BUT what the hell is wrong with Shinra?! Shinigami was the most powerfull being in Soul Eater worshiped as a God and feared by nearly everyone. Asura literally cheated to win against Shinigami who grew to be too soft bc he didn´t fought for centuries. Does that actually mean Shinra and nearly every character on this Fire Force top tier characters list literally slaps all of Soul Eater solo ez mode without even trying?! I really hope they animate the series to end and won´t stop after a couple of seasons
@@PisaroOne No. Soul Eater doesn’t start 25 years after fire force ends. That 25 year jump-cut was to show the adult members of Fire Force. When we see Kid, Maka, Black Star, and Soul, it’s around the time Maka is reading the legend of the Fire Force. There is a MASSIVE jump between the two.
I just realized the entire show of Fire Force takes place in the same universe as and before Soul Eater both written by the same guy, same art style, and with the creation of the moon as it is and the shinigami as it was? GOD DAMN I LOVE THIS
Beni is stupid broken. He's only beaten by literal gods. And he is even stronger in the new world! When he one shot his doppelganger I was like holy shit!
People underestimate the fire force verse heavily!.. Banshoman is genuinely most likely the most powerful character in all of anime in all honesty.. even characters like Featherine, Anos, Zeno, & full potential Gilgamesh would have an extremely difficult time dealing with Shinra Banshoman.. if they even could fight him for any amount of time at all!..
“Can he beat Goku” yes. Yes he can. It’s been stated that no one in DBZ is above Zeno. And Zeno is only 4D. He has a future counterpart, that means he’s not omnipresent. Shinra became the sole concept of Hope. And erased adolla which contains all concepts/ideas/laws. The literal place where human conception arrives. Zeno has no feats above that. So yes. Yes he can.
@@fiontathomas1574 I know the scaling. And I know Goku has 4D feats there are many from other characters as well. But all I’m saying is Dbz never showed anything above that. As their “strongest” being has a future self and he’s supposed to be their creator. Yet he’s not omnipresent from what we’ve been showed. No matter how many planets they can destroy or universes. Dbz hasn’t shown anything conceptual. Which is why they’d lose.
@@fiontathomas1574 regardless of time travel. They refer to “Future Zeno” as a completely different entity from “Present Zeno” so even though Dbz has multiverse destroyers, they couldn’t beat someone outside of time. Plus Goku continues to age. Many people can counter that.
Shinra literally recreated the universe countless of times and created a literal god during that brief moment where he kicked the light attack. He is beyond broken
5:54 that moon.. that fuckin.. moon. that weird ass fuckin.. ass.. moon.. that suspicious ass fuckin degenerate ass.. fuckin.. untrustworthy ass lookin moon.. what the fuck is that moon...? why? fuck that moon, never liked it, even in Soul Eater. fuck you moon.
so underrated anime...yet so good.... I don't see anyone talking about fire force... I don't get recommendations of videos on it either....fire force needs recognition
There needs to be another series. A third one. We got the beginning(fire force). And the end(Soul Eater) now it's time for the middle. We need to see Deaths story. How he founded Death City. He rolled with his own team to take out Kishins with Asura being a traitor. I wanna see that story. And it would be Soul City. Which is what at the last page of the final chapter "Please look forward to the authors next work" and right next to it was Soul City.
I love how one second he goes this guy took an attack that cut a BUILDING then the next second he goes oh yeah he can also just bust FUCKING STARS. Perfectly described all of fire force Scaling right there.
I feel like Nataku Son (6th pillar should’ve been on here as he made the blast that that one dude re directed into the moon and that was just the start of his power pretty much
When did fire manipulation turn to time warping, reality warping,and destroying Stars levels. This dude is maybe the strongest New Gen character in history
Personally I think arthur should be higher than benimaru. Just because I imagine that he'll just eventually figure out something imaginary to beat him idk this one is pretty debatable?
With the new power system shinra is probably the strongest after the fire abilities were taken away. It was stated several times throughout the series that shinra arguably had the strongest soul ever seen. Since the new power system is based on soul strength he is probably the strongest. He is also the supreme commander of the world heroes.
Not including God Haumea or Soul Synchronization Shinra, here’s my list Benimaru Arthur Dragon Faerie Joker/ Kurono Burns Shinra Sho Charon Overall it’s hard to compare who would win against who since abilities play a huge part in how these characters would have to fight against each other. Like Sho could rush Faerie but couldn’t do the same to a casual Joker. Faerie could probably moon crush Burns but Sho would have no way of beating Burns, just like Shinra. Kurono likely could kill everyone on this list other than Benimaru because he doesn’t have the raw physical ability to fight Beni with his corona ability which cancels out other ignition abilities. Benimaru just flat out don’t lose to anyone here
@@Luverboii Kurono casually slicing up demons with zero effort and then being on par in H2H with Beni is pretty insane. He might have found a way to suffocate Beni’s doppelgänger or something but it’s unlikely given the Corona ability plus being a genius in battle. Benimaru is legit approaching god tier
@@GodKiller97 exactly. They made doppelgängers of the strongest characters in the series n for kurono to have one that’s a feat in itself. Not only that he was able to beat his own n go on to fight Beni’s for him to even last in that fight for a bit speaks volume because Beni literally can one shot so many characters in the series
@@Luverboii I only put Arthur and Dragon above Kurono because their level of destruction is higher and Arthur is just reality warping shit, but Kurono for some reason is over here doing all sorts of crazy casual feats and as Beni showed, you can just blitz an opponent threatening you with a stronger attack. Kurono can’t survive in space but I’m guessing he can cut through almost anything and he seems like he is super smart and has ways to kill most opponents. Like up until Arthur gets motivated, I can’t see him putting up demons with no effort like Kurono did
what. the. FIRE. I've stopped reading fire force for a number of months and SWEET BABY JESUS, I have been missing OUT. straight in to binging this until the end.
I love how Arthur is literal the goat of the series, but would love for him to surpass Benimaru and become 3rd or 2nd strongest in the series and Arthur and Shinra become the example of ‘the student surpasses the teacher’ Cuz Shinra is BAMF and he’s literal god.
Arthur >> benimaru, even if beni has a planet level attack simular to his adola counterpart/dragon/arthur that does not mean anything cause arthur not only survived a planet level attack but also began to regenarate over time and choose to watch over the final fight instead of helping. benimaru lacks those durability feats and arthur also has humanitys emotions boosting him.
bit late but benimaru uses normal fire while arthur uses plasma. though benimaru can easely cast his fire in as large scale as arthurs last attack, arthur has a way more consentrated fire. though I dont think that is arhurs limit. he could get more into it if there was a princess he had to save XD even if this sounds like a joke, I think his knight fantasy couldve been stimulated way more.
as an anime only i am lost bro lol now i know how Zoro feels . at least i see Beni on the list but seeing Burns & Charon so high blew my mind early bro
Couldn't Charon just absorb Burn heats since Burn's heat doesn't deal Insta One-shot attack like Cornea? Imagine how much heats Charon absorb from Burn stage 1 since Burn just standing there still. By the time Burn enter stage 2/3, Charon have enough energy to one shot Burn
@Afif Mazino Who's sniper? I know there's Arrow.. If you're talking about Hinawa shooting Charon from behind against Ogun then you need to think again if Hinawa can beat Charon face to face 1v1..🤦🏻♂️ Anything produces flames/heat/energy can be absorb directly by Charon.. Ogun plan was for Hinawa to shoot him from behind where he's not focus on absorbing
It’s crazy to me tht nobody talks about FF im anime only n nvrr hear nun about the magna. Ion read it but I watch yt vids for it and NOBODY covers it so thanks🖤
I will put arthur higher, he was able to create alone life(a soul) after all excalibur is the stronger weapon since the birth of shinigami-sama, i will put him 2do or 3, he has the will of adora in a sense of more freedom that others( being alone of course)
Nahhhh technically that isn't only shinra, it's shinra banshô-man, a fusion of him, his brothers shô and his mother he might be the one controlling the body, the power comes from all three
i cannot agree more benimaru and shinra are my top 2 charecters in fire force cant decide between them and too see someone rank them just like i would is insanely pleasing