Top 10 Strongest Pokémon from the First Generation Sets 

There's quite a few moves that existed in the card game way before they were made into moves in the actual games

Flail from the first Magikarp card predated the in-game move too

How long will it take before grope gets added to the games?

As soon as they hire some Misty/Jessie shippers ​@@connoromalley4004

and why is that amazing?

No, he read it right. He's saying an undamaged Pokemon (many times on the first turn) receives 40 damage, and with a trainer card the attack can be doubled to 80 to be able to one-shot a lot of Pokemon... Because they're not a lot of first generation cards that could tank that damage output.

nah, he got it wrong, multiple times.

I reviewed it, and just to mediate: he does say, "40 damage, plus 30 less if Erika's Jigglypuff had any damage counters on it." So yes, he did say it wrong, at least when first describing it.

​@@drew8235 I miss the days when you could find pokemon cards randomly on the ground walking home from school 😅

he has to redo the video now!

Well you can't say they weren't accurate to the source material 😂

Colorless

@@PopoTCGnot if in the uk

To be fair, Hitmonchan and Machop from Base Set and Rocket's Hitmonchan were the only 3 Fighting types that were ever worth using in Gen 1. Jungle Mankey saw some niche use with Rocket's Trap and Rocket's Sneak Attack, but that was it. Psychic really only made use of Base Alakazam for stall, Movie Promo Mewtwo and Promo Mew for damage, Mr. Mime for walling heavy hitters, and Fossil Gastly for quick, light damage with a chance of Paralysis, free retreat and Resistance to Fighting and no Weakness. Colorless, however, covered a lot of bases. You had Base Chansey and Jungle Lickitung and Snorlax, and Erika's Dratini for stall, Jungle Kangaskhan for drawing, Jungle Wigglytuff and Erika's Jigglypuff for easy heavy damage, Jungle Clefable for being able to use your opponent's moves at the cost of only ONE energy (and WotC mistranslating it to not require any energy discards), Jungle Dodrio being able to reduce your Retreat Costs, and Ditto being able to copy your opponent's Pokémon. Colorless was extremely versatile.

TCG's bias was Basic stages. Only Blastoise was the list's only big setup-payoff Evolution.

My favorite was articuno blizzard spam 🤣

In the Pokemon TCG Video game for GBC/DS, I created a deck meant to turbo out Blastoise. It would often get Blastoise out on the second turn, since you can't evolve on your first. It helped that Trainer cards were not once-per-turn too. In case you're wondering, Pokemon Breeder was the secret to Turn 2 Blastoise. It allowed you to skip the Wartortle stage and get access to Rain Dance then and there. Only a few cards ever gave me trouble after that, Mr. Mime being one of them. (stupid wall...)

Same. Love the GBC game. Unlocked the impossible to get promo Venusaur the other day with a romhack. Lol Cheers mate.

Murray and Ken are the hardest club masters in the game

I disagree with that video. Lickitung was run pretty frequently on TCGone back in 2013, which was a whole year before it was "discovered" in that tournament.

I didn't know anything about competitive metas as a kid, but I knew Lickitung was annoyingly bulky and effective for being such a cheap and plentiful card.

@pokebot451gonbow5 none of the clubs are difficult lmfao the game does not get hard until the final 5 battles.

It’s ok i had a deck in magic that turned out to be meta but needed something for flying creatures. Can’t hit them with normal ones.

@waddledoo2you13 bringing up magic in a pokemon tcg video is like going on a high school freshman basketball video and talking about the Boston Celtics lmfao

That with the chansey and damage eater tenticools.

Yeah however stall decks moving around damage made it so easy to just annihilate everything with Do The Wave. Like oh you're going to stall? Thanks my bench is now full, i have 2-3 Wigglytuff, and multiple damage buffs or gust of wins saved to force you to take ohko damage

Bro just play nidoking, wigglytuff, khangaskan and a shit load of draw items. You will smash through everyone lol

Essentially a 25% chance and a 50% chance to retry during your next turn if the opponent doesn't have an option to counter the sleep, like switch, scoop up, full heal etc.

Given the hype behind Pokémon it was probably a rush job because at the time everyone thought it was a fad. Still pretty good if that’s what happened though, even with a few balancing issues. Core gameplay hasn’t changed even to this day.

It's actually the same thing with other TCGs like YuGiOh. When we look back at older versions of the card games using more modern deckbuilding ideas that were solved, you realize there were so many things that people missed. Stuff like Lickitung choking out the metagame was missed back then. With games like YuGiOh you have things like Solemn Warning which is a card that makes you pay half of your life to just straight up say "no you can't do that" to basically anything your opponent tries to do. Way back in the day, we all thought it was an absolutely worthlessly bad card because well, who the heck would give up half of their precious life to stop a single play? Well now we realize "wait I can pay half my life and stop my opponent's play which would make me lose the game!?"

@@P4brotagonist I’m familiar with yugioh. Nowadays the mindset is the only life point that matters is your last one. But I was mainly putting forward a theory on why those things were missed.

​@@cinematographystudio The Pokémon TCG was actually developed in tandem with the original video games and unlike all other Pokemon spinoff media, isn't a direct response to "Pokémania". There is even a known Chansey proxy prototype from 1995. A reproduction of the card is included in the 25th anniversary deck provided to Creatures Inc. staff members, freelance artists and other industry figures. The early rulebooks also credited 4 playtesters. I think the game was seriously designed as a game to be played but the thing is Pokémon was conceived when there are basically no other domestic Japanese TCGs and the design principles on how to create a "good" TCG weren't well established yet.

Electabuzz is only remembered as part of the trio because most people learned about it from a trading card guide that came out shortly after Jungle Edition. As soon as the movie came out, Electabuzz immediately got the boot in favor of Promo Mewtwo. So the main trio was Hitmonchan-Mewtwo-Scyther, with a bunch of other Pokemon like Magmar, Electabuzz, and occasionally Lapras (which was used entirely to counter builds using Magmar) subbing in based on which matchup you want to give yourself an advantage over.

​@TheLordTash Lapras is mostly used in Raindance and is mandatory to run as its your only Mr Mime counter

@@Mitjitsu Lapras was absolutely used in some Haymaker variants during the window between Fossil and Rocket. Mainly because every other Haymaker deck was running Magmar for its Mime-killing efficiency and Lapras had a decent combination of bulk, a 1 energy attack, and the ability to ramp up if your opponent wasn't spamming ER on it. Then Goop Gas Attack happened and Electabuzz started seeing more play, so that put a quick end to Lapras.

the pendulum has swung from it being an underrated gem to being overrated.

snorlax had the same HP as lickitung, with an attack that's basically unusable.

that's what I played too XD

GB*

Didn't the psychic type leader combo Alakazam's Poképower with Chansey and Mr. Mime? I remember once he pulled off the combo it was basically gg

yup he's strong ngl but I think the science club is way more annoying than it ngl with spamming paralysis and negating pokepowers in the whole board with muk @@solidzack

And also squawkabilly is really risky with how common Boss' Orders is and how many pokemon can do more than 160 damage.

Pretty sure it's always been 2 Fighting 1 Colorless.

​@Gynan holy moly you're right. I could've sworn it was, but maybe I was mistaking it for scyther because they were in the same haymaker deck.

Machop gets OHKOd by everything but whatever works

Hitmonchan was usually better, but Machop did have a niche in Dodrio decks specifically since it had only 1 retreat cost instead of 2

@@Tirgo69 Most attacks are only doing 10-30 damage. Only a Mewtwo Psyburn can one shot it. Even with PlusPowers you'll be struggling to take out a Machop in one hit. The only reason to run such a card is for tech reasons, as fighting types in general are bad due to a terrible weakness and many popular cards having a resistance to it. A card like Moltres would love to Gust stall Hitmonchan, and wreck your deck with its Wildfire attack.

Yes and no, the damage cap would only apply to Mr. Mime being targeted

@@communistmallsanta1496 but it says "(including your own)"

@@mari_zz I'm not sure if double battles were a concept back then, but there were attacks like Articuno's Blizzard that would hit everyone on a bench. For example, your Articuno is able to deal extra damage to the bench, and the coin flip says your Mr. Mime will get hit hard by the effect, Invisible Wall will still be active

@@communistmallsanta1496 ah so it means any attack that damages Mr. Mime (including your own) and not any attack that deals damage (including Mr. Mime's)

In the Pokémon TCG game for GB one of the legendary cards is a promo Zapdos which has an attack and a poképower that deals damage to a random Pokémon, including your own. I assume Mr. Mime wouldn't be affected by it

This is the first time I've seen anybody downplay Yugioh's power creep

@@ArcheTelos i know that there is 1. but u can still with the older cards like dark magician, bleu eyes white dragon, red eyes black dragon to name some.

I mean all these major card games get powercrept in different fashions. MTG you have creatures that put 25 year old creatures to shame, but worse spells compared to the likes of ancestral and timespiral. Even in early days of yugioh blue-eyes wasn't exactly competitive because back then the only ways to bring it out were monster reborn/a broken card or double tribute, which was almost impossible to do competitively especially when most people would rather 1 tribute summoned skull. Pokemon got powercrept sure, but there really isn't much design space to use if you don't powercreep pokemon tcg where it's like oh one energy for 20 damage, amazing rate but only if we keep HP values super low forever.