Our justice system requires that a person has a right to legal counsel for a defense. If you accept the job, you do your best to help the defendant or else. I don't know how someone could be strong enough to to do such a job, but our legal system couldn't function without it.
@@genkatqltr737 I agree. The defense lawyer is there to ensure the accused understands the process and is able to present their defense. The main purpose is justice by enabling the court to hear both sides and ascertain the truth. Especially in criminal justice it should never be about winning or losing, it should always be about truth, justice and fair trial. If we deny people the right to defense counsel because we assume their guilt before their fair trial we would undermine the whole concept of a fair trial. I would have no difficulty in acting as defense counsel for anyone accused, whether they are innocent or guilty. The job is ensuring the trial is fair, that all evidence is heard, and making sure the verdict can not be questioned due to failures of due process.
If they were truly sorry, they would accept the sentence and go willingly. The death penalty is actually justified biblically, (abortion is NOT.) But they would have to have undeniable proof of a killing, w no chance of wrongful conviction.
"I am not sure why there are lawyers who defend people like this." Because *everyone* is entitled to legal representation and you are assumed innocent until found guilty. That is a cornerstone of most legal systems.
Finn here. 12 years is not automatic release, it's the minimum they have to serve, if they get sentenced life in prison. At that point they can get in front of the judge and possibly be paroled. If they are deemed not fit to be let go they will stay in prison. Right now there is a prisoner serving life who will most likely never be released. The dude is a literal serial killer, who has killed more every time he's been released. Latest sentence was life and it's very unlikely he will ever get back out because he has proved that he will just keep on killing people.
I can somewhat understand lashing out, punching someone and they die because they hit their head on something hard. Strangling someone takes minutes. You can't do that by accident. Both are reprehensible but one takes time and effort and you have loads of time to calm down and go "what tf am I doing here? This is messed up"
Exactly, if it's a real "accident" then we could understand them, if it's fked up sht then we have the every right to disdain and berate them, who in the normal mind would do unspeakable horror's and expect lighter aftermath. Oh yeah some entitled, sub human trashes!
I don't get why someone would ask a lawyer on why they're doing their job. "Why are you defending him/her?" BECAUSE IT'S THEIR JOB. Lawyers do what clients want despite being against it.
its because everyone deserves to basically have a defence for example what if they didn't do what the other person claims to they deserve to be proven innocent or partially innocent
Its not that simple lad. With murder yes, that's planned, and one could argue its worth life in prison. But if someone dies because of your actions it doesn't mean you meant to kill someone. A simple push can make someone fall on the back of their head and die..
@@fredthesavannahcat2899 Why not, we let people like Joe Obiden in office, if we are gonna live on the edge may as well hang off of the edge. This would send a message before the crime is committed, then if they still do it then they are ok with the punishment.
Joshua Allende it’s his job to show us the clips of the people, not to keep talking over it and not showing the whole clip? And yes by the way I did go to another channel, watched about 5 mins of it and got annoyed
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Innocent until proven guilty. You could find yourself in a position where people don’t think you deserve a defense. There are likely people serving life sentences right now for crimes they did not commit.
@hello goodbyeAt least one commentor is not completely mentally ill. Lol. The problem here wiith most ppl is that they only see what's on the surface and refuse to dig a little deeper into the mental illnesses of these poor souls. I will say over and over again the masses of the ppl on this rock called earth are illiterate and stupid even amongst college educated ppl. Funny I hear ppl say it all the time; "my momma didn't raise no fool". Ya right.
The lawyer is just doing his job. His job is literally to defend their client. That's what theyre getting paid for. Don't hate the lawyers for doing their jobs thanks
but remember these are teenagers so their brain kind of doesn’t really work when deciding life changing choices and can come up with stupid things. it’s not even their fault. they literally ruined their own life and there’s no escape with something that they can’t exactly control. just put yourself in their shoes.
If anyone's curious what the second video is (the one which has the girl being wheeled out hyperventilating) she and her partner beat a 3 yr old to death for wetting herself
As I age, I can't help but feel compassion for these lost young people. Regardless of their crimes, the damage that is done to not only the victims, but to the defendants families as well. No one wins.... and revenge is so bitter-sweet.
@@georgina9842 No, no one is born evil It has to be by force or mentally over a long spand of time that influences this kind of evil Absolutely no one on the planet would be born so heartless
@@neighbor472no. We have to protect citizens rights and freedoms first. Freedom is dangerous and scary. Those who trade freedom for security deserve neither
“If he actually didn’t do it-” Why did you say that pertaining to the rape case and none of the others? You weren’t on the trial. Believe the victim and let him rot in prison
bunny imagine being a new lawyer and your career depends on it . When you are a public defense lawyer it’s your job to take cases that no one would want to take . Like I said , the state/city assigns their cases
Your career is your own choice, though. I wouldn't want to be lawyer as I morally couldn't bear arguing in favour of a murderer, but obviously people who study to be lawyers are ok with that
If you feel angry or enraged.... Just try screaming, shouting out, crying, try boxing in a gym... do not let the toxic emotions in your body control you.
Sometimes it doesn't work especially when you have no control over your mind when it gets there. It's when you have to take the initiative to SEE A DAMN PSYCHIATRIST!!
youssef abdellatif In my school the counselors tell us to take deep breaths and count to ten or (number of your choice) until you calm down. It worked sometimes for me, usually I just play a peaceful Roblox or Minecraft game, I’d say it works even better if you do both! ^w^ (that’s just my personal opinion though!
Lenicobainrwarr a question being rhetorical doesn't take away the stupidity. U calling this guy unintelligent and arrogant just displays a bit how unintelligent and arrogant u are
Carlie Power there will always be someone like them and it will never end its life, its what it is, the only way is 7 billion people change their behavior toword people
Your absolutely right, there has to be clear consequences for actions. It's a terrible situation for everyone involved, and with these crimes there's no easy solution.
Are you an American citizen? You should have a better grasp on our judicial system and be thankful you have the right to be defended and get your day in court in case you're ever the target of a prosecution. Yes, these people were found guilty. But their lives were about to be taken from them and forced to live in a cage for life. They absolutely have the right to an attorney and a trial.
I had to deal with an out of control swearing aggressive child who was destructive and clearly has issues, and remaining the adult in that situation was hard but even if the child you have to look after is a literal demon - you have to remind yourself that you are dealing with a child, an unfinished person that is fragile emotionally and physically and you are the one with the real power in this situation not them. Take a deep breath, pass them over to their actual parent and get out of there. If you can’t control your reaction to their actions, you shouldn’t agree to babysit.
Everyone has a right to a lawyer. That's why these lawyers have to defend them. They have to try and make the punishment to the least extent while being fair.
Death penalty is the easy wat out. You realy think It is worse too die than Serve tour whole life in prison? I think not. And if someone is not guilty afterall wich happens quite a lot. Its inreverseable
geer cornuit Why give these murderers guaranteed food and shelter for untold years at the cost of the general public? Unless prison labor is expanded to be mandatory to get the food and accoodations, and thus reducing those who get the life sentence to legal slaves of the state.
Jelly Tiger Productions no. When you kill, you don’t get rights. Yes, it should be “fair”, they killed someone, they should be killed as well. After all, it’s “fair”
Markus Cutler agreed, also to guide them through the law to make sure the law has been applied appropriately to their case, not get them released. That isn’t simply what a lawyer is after
Actually, you're partly right. On top of giving clients a fair trial, the defense's other main objective is to negate the prosecution or prove the prosecution doesn't have a feasible case. They try to point out flaws in the prosecution's witnesses, police reports, whatever they can to make sure that they can win.
Ana Myers It was, “the same hand that pulled the trigger that killed your son, now m*sterb*tes to the memory. F*ck you.” He was completely remorseless throughout the trial, and even laughs and smiles at times, during testimony from the families.
Lawyers are supposed to defend people no matter what their personal feelings are. It’s their job and their personal feelings don’t have a bearing in defending a client.
@@Face_Reality "One is innocent until found guilty." Not *every* defendant in a court trial is said to be guilty of the charges. That is why we have these so called "Lawyers" to represent their side of arguement. Don't be biased against attorneys just because of one court trial.
Too much talking. And if you don’t understand why attorneys are appointed as council or hired as council to represent the alleged defendant, you need to spend more time studying laws, protocols, and more importantly, the constitution of the United States. 👎🏻
Here's the thing. It wasn't just a robbery, it was a planned car jacking and the victim was shot to death. She was not the shooter and she did not plan it, and later her sentence was reduced to 11 years.
@@AB-80X she kinda did plan it though or at least was a major contributor in planning it. She used a dating app to set up the guy and they ambushed him when he showed up. Maybe it wasn't her idea but she was a big part of the crime. 11 years is about right perhaps but 20 wasnt excessive. She's incredibly lucky he survived being shot or she'd have been convicted of murder. She and her Mom apparently believed that a plea agreement meant she didn't go to prison which is why they freaked out like that. Being dumb enough to think you can be a big part of an armed carjacking where someone gets shot and not go to prison is astounding but that's what they thought.
@@JeffSmith-eq3kc 20 years is harsh unless someone was permanently disabled in the shootout. 10 years sounds more appropriate if someone was injured and recovered. Pedophiles get less time than she did. Although I feel pedophile crimes should receive harsher sentences in general.
In some states are calling police useless! So I watched news of a certain state of USA which men forced, threaten people with a gun inside l/ outside restaurants to give their money . Nobody was surprised! Nobody was helping. Is was told a court case would be more expensive than the work of the police at those restaurants. I am so glad living in a sure state of Europe.
The funny thing is that this won’t stop. There are people out there that are living a normal life and some day will kill someone and end up here as well.
GoalieJoe59 if it wasn’t that hard you wouldn’t have people killing people. I’m not saying it justifies killings because it doesn’t. But people have been killing each other since the dawn of time. It’s not gonna stop.
@@koffeesaint1263 no way! If anything I appreciated your comment because I found myself double tapping on his useless commentary lol it’s nice to know what you’re getting yourself into
Yea and if nobody will defend them properly, the criminal can claim "I didn't have a fair trial" and appeal their conviction, dragging the victim's family through the whole court process again.
@@lightup6751 yes but you will most likely plead not guilty and the lawyer has to go with that verdict unless evidence is piling high against you then they switch to the lesser sentence method
"Why is a lawyer defending this person?" For someone that has a RU-vid channel based on crime and criminals one would think you'd know a little about the American justice system. Basically, in the U.S. everyone gets legal representation.
For all of the people talking about how can a lawyer defend someone. It is part of the process of securing a conviction, if there is no defence then a conviction can be called into question.
Probably not true. These are teenagers and these teenagers have a mind that is still developing and becomes confused from it. their mind doesn’t work properly when decided right from wrong.
Tony Brophy I also live in a Catholic family so anger is just a sin for them so is hurting children (which i get some of these teens did, but in my old Catholic school they taught us what i told you and God can forgive teens doing this as long as they are sorry because of the reason i explained)
I always think it’s funny that when anyone is America is charged and you see the guards move in you see their gut hanging over their belts. Always makes me smile
Lawyers have to defend the person to have a fair trial even if they disagree with their client . It’s the law lol it’s not like they want to defend murders
Even now, I still worry that I'll end up in the wrong place at the wrong time and be sentenced to life for something I didn't do. Plenty of people actually get jailed that way, and even after being proven innocent years down the line, those years they spent jailed are ones they'll never get back.
@@bashendriks5018 you rigth bro... but " criminal " people deserve to die... this world is full of retards and no one of this help the country in nothing... we need work people honest people... the world is lost :( peace is everything ✌
Not sure where you are from, but the reason we have lawyers defending people like this is because it’s important. It’s one of the greatest rights the US has created.
Thats what it means. However, you could receive a life sentence, but be up for parole in 25 years. So you could get a life sentence, but be out in 25 years.
Sometimes, if they say "life in prison, no parole" or "Remain in prison for the duration of your natural life" then yes, but otherwise the court itself cant decide, so at the x years mentioned "x years to life" they'll review your case and deem you ready to go back to society or if you need to stay for a longer period or for your life.
“Why are lawyers even defending murders?” Our judicial system relies on innocence before proven guilty, therefore necessitating defense attorneys. It is the defense attorney’s job to defend, just as it is the prosecution’s burden to present evidence. Conviction relies on a jury of our peers.
Sometimes people get falsely accused, defending lawyers find evidence of them NOT being guilty, but accusing lawyers find evidence of them being guilty, the judge takes Both sides of evidence and decides if they’re guilt or not. Or there driven by money
Trubel Playz saying they do it for the money isn’t entirely wrong but it isn’t right either, if there were no defending lawyers innocent people would be going to jail every day,
Trubel Playz why is it wrong that they do it for money? It’s a service that all people regardless of their innocence have a right to. Is it wrong for doctors to help people for money? Whether the person committed the crime or not, they have the right to the service of a defense attorney... if they can afford it, but that’s another issue XD
