11:23: "I gave up trusting reports a long time ago. I believe in results." That is a scary thing to hear from someone claiming to be a medical professional.
That first pitch talks like a scam. He kept misinterpreting Deborah’s worry about understanding the type of pain you’re feeling when using it. She asked very clearly how would I know if the discomfort I’m feeling is the “mechanism” is working or me making a mistake. He kept just focusing on the pain and ignored what her real question is. Sounds like a MLM man who avoids and diverts a concern.
@@rf159a So are a lot of pyramid schemes, doesn't mean they're not a scam. I don't think Mr. 'i'M a DoCToR oF TRaDiTioNaL CHiNeSe MeDiCiNe' is a scam, by the by, but I don't think being a scam or not precludes one from being lucrative.
I like how the first guy calls himself a doctor, because he studied "traditional Chinese medicine" for 20 years. I don't know about calling ya a doctor buddy lol😂
He's a very rich "Doctor" now! After the dragons den their company went from £200,000 to £3 million in just one year, helped by many celebrity endorsements of the product. This was one pitch that the dragons got wrong by rejecting it.
There are many rich and successful Chinese doctors. Just because a school is in Asia does not make degrees imaginary. Surgery is performed all over the world, are they not doctors?
@@vibecity5381 there's a difference between what hospitals perform and 'traditional Chinese medicine.' TCM is not what is practiced in your local hospital.
@@donchamers6916 no they got it right. These people aren't so desperate for a few thousand dollars that they want to associate their name with a clear scam on TV
He's an HONORARY PhD of Traditional Chinese Medicine. It's a historical subject taught in universities not a medicinal study taught in medical schools.
Almost feel bad the last young man to be included in this comp. Well spoken, more business knowledge than the two previous pitches, and clearly entrepreneurial. But I guess I can glance sideways and see how the patent issue made it fit here. Imo he was clearly the best of the 3.
He was good, and it was good of Peter to let him know about things he faced in selling a similar toy. Too bad he scammed people out of 1.6 million by asking for crowdfunding for a product and never delivering on it
The second one was odd. How do those chairs make you 'lose weight' unless you're in those chairs and NOT EATING AT ALL? No exercise is involved so it's completely unfounded. The smoking one might have some value though if people ARENT smoking if people are there.
Piss*d myself when the 2nd guy came up the stairs! I will never forget him! Debroah loved Hillary exhausting herself! Really, how did he even turn over 200k?
@@jumble-1238 Considering the title is about pitches with unreliable claims, I am not surprised that he didn't get an investment and that a flying helicopter at 30 GBP I would not expect this toy to do very much.
The first duo, I reckon the quiet one knew exactly what they’d say and the other one bullied him into going. He looked pretty smug to me, holding his, “I told you so”.
@@oliveryoung6845 What do you mean AI writes degrees? It's a qualification, how can you write it. Also that clip is from 2009, what AI was "writing degrees" back then.
I had a couple of major back operations in 2010, prior to that I tried everything I found on the market to prevent that but nothing helped. None of the gimmick devices are worth the effort. My back was so bad I was turned down by 4 Chiropractors before turning to the dark side of gimmicks.
@@JeremiahEcks777 the first surgery they removed 6 discs and replaced them with plastic cages filled with bone shavings from the rib they removed too. the next day they put in 2 12" rods with 14 screws. the original problem was fixed but unfortunately the surgeon messed up a different part of my back and now I have to walk with a cane. I waited 28 years until I couldn't stand the pain to have to operations and now I regret having it. Nothing, gimmick wise has helped.
@calvinspark1946 it's not the study of medicine like to become a medical doctor. It's the historical analysis of ancient cultural practices and his degree is only honorary. It's like being a doctor of the English language or of colonial history in that it in no way qualifies anyone to speak to the health benefits of a product and again, it's only an honorary degree.
Let's be honest, if they weren't on TV, a placebo with dirt cheap production costs would have them all over it. They'd only really have to invest in marketing.
@9:28 how unreasonable is Peters logic. He says if you have back pain, seek a professional. The guy pitching said the product will remove the need to see a professional. Peter then says “So I don’t need then!” Make up your mind Peter 😂
I mean, it's also in response to the guy who says "it's all about the spine and the individual case" (paraphrasing,the guy was blabbering incoherently and not going back to try and decipher 😅) in a breath and then in the next trying to peddle a product that will in no way at all account for that,so even if it wasn't painfully obvious already,the guy himself kind of told everyone his bs product doesn't work
25k for 10% of the company is very little money tor quite the share. Bargain selling their company either means the product is bad or they just came on dragons den for marketing. Well after hearing the news that they made massive bank after the episode it is most likely the latter.
you can tell by the way hes talking that first one is a blagger used to blagging his way through life, i wouldn't trust him telling me the weather,looks like hes scooped up that poor guy to be his piggy bank.there's one born everyday lol the second one IT COULD BE 5 MILLION was enough for me buy buy BS guy
Comparing the loon in the first pitch to 'an actual spine doctor' is an unbelievable insult to the amount of scientifically-backed, rigorous, results-driven training that ACTUAL spine doctors undertake.
